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Evan Þ's avatar

You have some good points here, but if the President keeps as much power as he does now, I'm still concerned that gubernatorial elections would become (at least to some degree) proxies for Presidential elections. However, if you couple this with reducing Presidential power, I think this could alleviate my concerns.

Removing the popular mandate would (as you say) go a ways, and your previous amendment neutering the veto would continue that, but I think it would also be important to reform judicial nominations (if not judicial power as a whole) and rein in the President's enforcement discretion.

Also, for a wording concern that plays into my "proxy" fears: your amendment currently reposes this power in whoever (if anyone) holds the title "governor." But what if some state retitles its executive as something else (maybe "chairman") and creates another office titled "governor" with no duties except this? Athens did a similar thing when they became a republic, and kept a magistrate around with the title "king" for religious rituals. I think it would be better to just say "executive authority" and depend on Congress or the Electoral Convention to identify the correct one.

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Drea's avatar

A strong suggestion, and I'm especially impressed with how you consider downstream problems such as governors becoming proxies. I'd support this. My one amendment would be that the vote should require slightly more than a simple majority of population represented. Maybe not 2/3, but say 60%. Maybe in a country not already beset with our level of polarization, a simple majority would do, but as it stands, the forced moderation needs to be quite high.

The current system gives small states a weighted advantage relative to the popular vote. Your proposed system overall gives small states even more power relative to larger ones, since the win conditions include a system in which Wyoming is equal to California, rather than merely weighted. But this is fine if the population-based vote requires a supermajority.

Here's a problem that comes to mind with this model: personal presence in the room and individual interests. Even if the large-state governors have weighted votes, a majority of Americans have fewer voices in the room, which affects how debate plays out. Moreover, we need to anticipate that back-scratching and personal favors will play a role in these deliberations. Because there are fewer individuals representing more of the people, the interests of the bulk of the population are more susceptible to individual corruption.

The most obvious solution to this issue brings us right back to states sending electors. But we know how the electoral college turned out the first time. Have you had thoughts about the above issue?

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