One Reason to Punch Nazis (and Two Reasons Not To)

Reposted from 6 August 2019

NOTE: I originally wrote this piece in 2019. Since the majority of you discovered De Civitate in the past two years, I have been thinking lately about a monthly repost of some old De Civ article you probably haven’t seen, leaving the text alone but maybe updating any broken links, and this article was near the top of that list.

Then today’s news broke about the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk. Although we do not yet know the shooter or his motives, it is likely an act of political violence—the latest in a series of escalating, cross-ideological, tragic acts of political violence. Six years ago, I warned about a dangerous slope we were staring down. I fear we have begun to slide. More and more, I feel like we’re living in the final scene of that one Battlestar Galactica episode, right when Bear McCreary’s “Prelude to War” starts playing:

We need to stop, if not for their sake, then for our own. As Commander Fisk said, “This will spiral out of control fast.” The good news is, most of us don’t want to kill one another. The bad news is, the social media algorithms show us the people on the other side who do want to kill us, and (largely) hide the ones on our own side who want to kill them. This builds a powder keg.

The New York Times editorial tonight (“gift link”) is a good move. Me acknowledging that the New York Times did a good thing, even though I hate the Times, is another good move. Without overly generous grace, both given and received, across the aisle, we. will. not. survive. this.

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Hitler Youth practice streetfighting in 1938 (via British Pathé)

“Error has no rights.”

It’s not clear where this axiom comes from. (Some say the Inquisition. I can’t find it before Orestes Brownson, who critiqued it.)

Yet the axiom seems correct to me, and I think, at some level, most people believe it. If a child tries to walk into traffic, you don’t say, “Oh, well, that’s interesting, I don’t agree with it but I defend your right to try it.” No: you grab the child! He has erred and he needs to be corrected! And when a grown man says, “I’d like to kill your family,” the natural, normal human response is not to “answer his speech with more speech.” It’s to try to arrest, disable, or kill the man before he has a chance to do anything to your family!

Which, naturally, brings us to Nazis.

There are people in our country today who want to kill all the Jews. Or all the non-Whites. Or both. They can be found marching in the streets in some places. When they post about it online, they pretend to be “just kidding,” but you must not believe them:

The unindoctrinated should not be able to tell if we are joking or not. There should also be a conscious awareness of mocking stereotypes of hateful racists. I usually think of this as self deprecating humor – I am a racist making fun of stereotype of racists, because I don’t take myself super-seriously. This is obviously a ploy and I actually do want to gas kikes. But that’s neither here nor there.

-Andrew Anglin, Daily Stormer style guide

This evil minority “actually does want to gas kikes.” They advocate a totalitarian state that suppresses any ideas contrary to their particular vision of their deranged “Aryan” racial ideology. Nazis have erred in an extremely dangerous way. It is imperative that they be prevented from enacting any of their horrifying agenda. And even allowing them to spread their ideas, even to privately hold these ideas, is dangerous. Why should any society protect this? Why should any Christian or humanist suffer such people to preach their hatred?

So punch ’em! That’s what a lot of people are saying these days: get violent! Attack neo-Nazis with force! You’ve probably read about the assault on prominent white nationalist Richard Spencer. You may not have seen the left-wing “blue checkmark” class openly celebrating the attack (here’s a major Obama speechwriter, for instance). You may not have seen one of America’s big-three television networks explicitly endorsing anti-Nazi violence in a direct-to-audience monologue on The Good Fight:

Is it alright to hit a Nazi unprovoked? I was always taught never to throw the first punch, never to instigate. Defend, but don’t attack. But then I saw a video of the white nationalist Richard Spencer being punched in the face during an interview. I realized Spencer was in a pressed suit, wearing a tie, being interviewed like his opinion mattered — like it should be considered part of the conversation, like neo-Nazism is just one political point of view. And then I realized there’s no better way to show some speech is not equal. Some speech requires a more visceral response. It’s like Overton’s window — that’s the term for which ideas are tolerated in public discourse. Well, Overton’s window doesn’t mean shit unless it comes with some enforcement. So yeah, this is enforcement. It’s time to punch a few Nazis.

A significant American television program, with a sizable budget, hundreds of staffers, and an estimated several hundred thousand viewers, came out and told Americans they should punch Nazis.

And, y’know, there’s something to this!

The Nazis themselves endorse terrible violence against vast numbers of people for truly absurd reasons, and they want to destroy the free-speech protections for everybody who dissents from their tyrannical aims. The threat their continued existence poses is not trivial. The last time around, Nazis took power through the ordinary political process, then promptly killed 12 million of their own people (not to mention the 50 million who died in the war they launched) and policed the rest of the population with a horrific secret-police state.

But they complain when the rest of us consider stripping their free-speech rights and performing some (relatively modest) violence against them?

If ever there was an error that earned harsh, coercive correction–even violent correction–Nazism is it.

Yet I think it is a very bad idea to go around punching Nazis. The growing support for anti-Nazi violence is cause for alarm.

Yes, I agree that, by nature, error has no rights.

But we have chosen, as a society, to give error some rights.

Consider the First Amendment. It grants all Americans a freedom of speech. Why? It’s not there to ensure citizens have the right to agree with the government and the majority. The government and the majority can already express themselves without fear of punishment, because they are the government and the majority! So the First Amendment is there to protect the speech of dissidents. Speech that opposes the government and the majority. Speech that the people in power consider erroneous.

The First Amendment also furnishes you a right to exercise your religion. Is that there to protect the popular State religion? No! It’s there to ensure that citizens are free to practice false religions. In England and Colonial America, religions like Quakerism and my own Catholicism were officially considered false and therefore gravely dangerous. They, not the Anglicans, are the real beneficiaries of the Free Exercise Clause.

The First Amendment also guarantees that you can petition the government for redress of stupid grievances, and to publish dangerous ideas and facts in the press.

We’ve given error rights. Heck, we’ve made “error has rights” the very center of our system of government! We call this reverence for error “liberalism,” and it is bizarre, unnatural, and profoundly counterintuitive.

It has also been stupidly successful.

Liberalism has benefited our society in many ways, too numerous to list here. Our science, our literature, our art, our economy, our political stability, are all buttressed by liberalism, allowing our material standard of living to fly to heights undreamed of in human history. I wish to focus on just one aspect of liberalism here: the way liberalism has helped restrain ideological violence.

Throughout human history, people have slaughtered each other, even their own neighbors, by the thousands and the millions, because they believed different things. Catholics slaughtered the Cathars because they feared Cathar ideas could spread and imperil the salvation of the faithful–damnation being a fate even worse than death. Anglicans slaughtered Catholics for more or less the same reason. Communists slaughtered kulaks (and still slaughter Uyghurs): same reason. French Revolutionaries slaughtered just about everyone, including their own revolutionary heroes, for the slightest past deviation from the current party line. Even the tolerant Romans feared that people who refused to participate in pagan civic sacrifices would call down the wrath of the gods… and so they slaughtered such “atheists.” The river of history runs red with the blood of dissenters.

But not here. Not now. We don’t kill our dissenters.

Indeed, we often listen to them, because, from time to time, there’s a grain of truth in what our dissenters are saying–one we need to hear. Sometimes, our dissenters turn out to be altogether correct. Where would we be if we’d enforced our beliefs and muzzled theirs? Well, have you seen HBO’s Chernobyl? Do you remember the Mortara Affair? Have you checked out China’s new social credit system? A political system closed to radical critique does not end up good for anybody.

Even when our dissidents are completely wrong, sanctioning them would only make them stronger, thanks to the Streisand Effect. You can spend a trillion dollars on Chinese-style censorship or you can spend zero dollars and let somebody else write an effective rebuttal. This single post almost single-handedly removed Michael Anissimov and his brand of neoreaction from circulation. (He has now deleted his website and even removed its archive from the Wayback Machine, proving he was always a monster.) Counterspeech may not be natural, but it works.

Forcing bad ideas into a closet of suppressed speech, on the other hand, lends them the credibility of samizdat and makes establishment channels look like Pravda; thus, dangerous ideas are not defeated, but fester and grow. If openness means we have to put up with birthers and alternative medicine loons on Twitter? Seems like a worthwhile price to pay.

My mother, who is a college professor, told me the story of an exchange student from Liberia during the 2000 election. It’s a liberal college campus, so, naturally, after the wild events in Florida on election night (read up, kids), most everyone came to class to depressed. It was still not clear who would be elected President; I myself, at the age of 11, found the whole thing thrilling, remained glued to the screen for five weeks, and that was when I started really paying attention to politics.

But the Liberian student seemed neither glum nor excited. She seemed nervous. After class, she asked my mother when the military would be putting tanks in the streets to keep the peace. My mother, of course, was shocked by the question. The electoral college is idiosyncratic (and very good), Florida’s ballots were a mess, and there was a lot riding on the election outcome… but she knew Al Gore would have his day in court and the matter would be settled peacefully, for good or ill. My mom’s student, on the other hand, had spent her entire life in a country seized by coups, warlords, and civil war. The idea of a contentious but fair election culminating in a peaceful transfer of power to the loyal opposition was just as shocking to her.

We have an exhausting, ugly, deeply flawed Discourse in this country, full of demagoguery and online mobs and confirmation bias and outrage and plain old lies. Liberalism itself contains serious theoretical defects and practical consequences. And yet, for all that… people do not kill each other over ideas in this country. At the end of the day, that’s what liberalism has bought us. Giving error rights has given us the breathing room we need to live in peace and forge a nation E Pluribus Unum. This personal safety is so much a fixture of our national mindset that we easily forget how extraordinary it is–and how fragile.

But what does any of this have to do with Nazis? Everybody agrees Nazis are bad. Everybody agrees they don’t really deserve a right to their error. Can’t we make an exception for them? Instead of absolute liberalism, where we say, “People have a right to their errors,” couldn’t we change it to, “People have a right to their errors, except Nazis”? Then we could finally fix the Nazi problem for good, without hurting anybody else! Anyone can see the appeal.

But I promised two reasons not to punch Nazis, and here’s the first: who decides what counts as a Nazi?

It’s easy enough to say, “Yes, let’s all go punch Andrew Anglin.” He’s an avowed Nazi who, as we’ve noted, avowedly “wants to gas kikes.” Definitely a Nazi. Oughta get punched.

It’s also not too hard to want to punch Richard Spencer. Spencer personally denies that he’s a Nazi, but that’s pretty hard to believe when you read the things he says, particularly his regular, subtle, favorable invocations of Nazism. He’s totally a Nazi, just lying about it. Go punch him, too, right?

But, just this week, no less an entity than The New Yorker, the definitive American journal of letters, made an extended case that President Donald Trump is a Nazi. Uh-oh.

Trump says he isn’t a Nazi. But so does Spencer, and Spencer’s definitely a Nazi, so Trump’s denial doesn’t settle anything. We must turn to the evidence.

Does Trump want to kill all the Jews? If he does, moving the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem was a pretty odd way of showing it. But does he want to kill a lot of Central Americans? Well… that’s under pretty intense dispute right now: there’s no question that Central American asylum-seekers are dying at ridiculous rates because of outrageous lapses in logistics and supplies. Is this because the border is overwhelmed by asylum seekers, or because President Trump wants them to suffer, even die? (Both?) If the latter, does that make him a Nazi?

I know plenty of people who say, “Yes, Trump is the same as Hitler,” without a moment’s hesitation. Now, I think that’s a pretty crazy comparison, but that’s just me. I can’t stop other people from concluding — even erroneously — that Trump = Hitler. Trust me, I’ve tried!

So now our narrow little exception to liberalism, our small allowance for errors that are so serious we should silence them with the threat of violence, has suddenly widened from “a handful of dudes on fringe Internet sites who want to gas Jews” to “fringe internet trolls… plus the current President of the United States and much of his administration.”

But we can’t stop there. We also have to deal with Trump’s supporters. If Trump is a Nazi, doesn’t that imply that his supporters are also Nazis, rank-and-file brownshirts complicit in his evil acts? Seems to follow logically. This guy on MSNBC sure thinks it does. A very dear friend of mine recently wrote on Facebook about the immigration detention camps under President Trump and noted, in conclusion, “If you… support it, you are my enemy, and I would lift a weapon against you in violence if it would do a single thing to help those people.” That presumably includes all of the 43% of the American public that currently approves of President Trump’s job performance.

It’s not just Trump, either. I’m not a Trump supporter, but I was a George W. Bush supporter, and I’m old enough to remember when Bush and all his supporters were quite routinely compared with Hitler and the brownshirts. I remember watching, of all things, a Star Trek fan film that opened with a list of great Earth dictators condemned by history: Hitler, Stalin, and George W. Bush. Labeling Republican presidents Nazis has been a hobby since Barry Goldwater ran for President, so I’m pretty sure there’s nothing special about Trump. If Marco Rubio were President, the same people would be calling him and his supporters Nazis. They always have, so why stop now?

If we all agree that it’s okay to perpetrate violence against Nazis, and if a fair number of us believe that everybody who votes for any Republican for President is a Nazi…

…uh-oh.

We poked one hole — one tiny tiny little hole — in the fabric of liberalism. All we wanted to do was make one little exception to the “right to be wrong” we’ve invented for our society. We wanted to give ourselves the ability to be intolerant of the most extreme intolerance.

Before we can even blink, we find that a big swath of us have found a way to use this to justify intolerance and violence, not toward some tiny extremist minority nobody will miss, but toward something like half the United States population! That’s not a slippery slope: it directly follows from the belief that it’s okay to punch Nazis and the surprisingly common belief that Republicans are morally equivalent to Nazis. Our “one hole” has blown half the dike!

And we’re not even done!

So far, we’ve only talked about how left-wing people might use liberalism’s hypothetical “Nazi exception” in order to legitimize ideological violence against vast swaths of the population. But, once we’ve drilled a hole in liberalism to make punching evildoers okay, do you really think the Left is the only side that’s going to start throwing as many ideological enemies into that pigeonhole as they can?

Heck no! The Right has spent generations resenting how Nazis are considered The Worst People In History but Communists (especially Stalinists) are tolerated with a wink and a nod, considered serious subjects for sympathetic academic study, and even considered a bit cool. All this despite the fact (and this is true) that Communists very likely caused more deaths with just as much grotesque horror as anything conjured in the feral pits of Adolf Hitler’s mind. John Zmirak wrote a very amusing satire of this double standard about a decade ago in Taki’s, a vile magazine that is a victim of this very double standard. If we’ve decided Nazis are so bad that they need to be fought, then surely the same goes for Communists.

Which leads to the Right starting purges of university faculties and scientific associations, getting rid of their communists and their communist sympathizers — and maybe burning a few books while they’re in the neighborhood. The Right will feel completely justified about doing this, because, after all, Communism is an extremely serious and dangerous error that kills millions of people! Such serious errors have no rights! “We can’t tolerate the intolerant!” the Breitbart columnists will agree as they toss another copy of Das Capital on the flames.

One more and I’ll let you go.

The really awful thing about Nazis is that they killed millions of innocent people in industrialized death centers, right? There’ve been plenty of unfree governments in history, but “callously butchering 12 million men, women, and children” is the thing that makes the Nazis the worst people in history, right? Even their ideas are so dangerous that we’re talking about suppressing them even before they actually do anything horrible.

Well, hi! I’m pro-life, and would you care to guess how many babies Planned Parenthood has killed? Actually killed, not just talked about it? It’s a good many more than 12 million. If it’s okay to punch Andrew Anglin because he wants to kill Jews, than Scott Roeder, who put a stop to George Tiller’s prolific career of child-murder, is a big damn hero. If anti-Nazi violence is okay because the Nazis might theoretically someday start killing racial minorities, then surely the violent destruction of every active abortion mill in America is a downright moral imperative! Right?

You think that’s a silly comparison? Well, I thought the whole “Trump is like Hitler” thing was pretty silly. But, as with the Trump is Hitler thing, millions and millions of Americans believe Planned Parenthood is Dachau. I myself am so serious about this precisely because I spent years considering the morality of anti-abortion ideological violence, and I have seen where that logic leads. Once ideological violence is normalized, what makes you think you can stop it from targeting PP?

Starting to feel a little shaky about the whole “punching Nazis” enterprise?

You should! We’ve now blown the entire dam. We began with liberalism, which says that people have a right to be wrong, even about important things, and that “error has rights.” We like liberalism because it’s given us an incredibly free and peaceful society, where ideological violence is essentially unheard of. We then tried to make an exception allowing us to enact ideological violence against one tiny and universally hated group, one which would do the same to us given half a chance. What could go wrong?

But it turns out that the boundaries of that “one tiny and universally hated group” are by no means universally agreed upon. Which means that our “one little exception” to liberalism isn’t so little after all. We end up justifying ideological violence by… pretty much anyone… against… well, pretty much everyone. In other words, we’ve blown up liberalism. Our exception has swallowed the rule. Error is once again deprived of any rights, and we’re back to killing each other like Catholics and Cathars. Of course, our culture no longer cares enough about religion to bother policing merely religious heresies; the heretics we persecute have erred about far more important things, like Halloween costumes.

It does no good to say, “Well, we’ll just have the government decide which hate speech counts as Nazi enough to be suppressed.” When the government sets up hate-speech tribunals, it inevitably does the same thing the rest of us do: it massively broadens the definition of “Nazi” to serve their interests and deplatform their enemies. In a right-wing government, you get the House Committee on Un-American Activities. In a left-wing government, it’s the Colorado Civil Rights Commission. Either way, the only thing you’ve done is taken all the problems described above and added an Inquisition on top.

So that’s the first reason why we should not punch Nazis. Once you stop tolerating intolerance, society’s definition of “intolerance” rapidly broadens. We stop tolerating disagreement on any sufficiently important issue. We characterize such disagreement as “violence,” and then we respond to that “violence” with actual violence. Pretty much everybody loses. You lose, I lose, the Right loses, the Left loses, the stability of our whole society loses. You know who doesn’t lose?

The Nazis, that’s who. The Nazis want nothing more than for us to start punching them. Which brings us to Reason Number Two not to punch Nazis.

Adolf Hitler’s rise to power is a very complicated historical event. There are a lot of different narratives you can use to explain it, and most of them are true. Getting at the complete big picture takes a lot of work. But here is one true telling of the Nazi rise to power in Weimar Germany:

After World War I and the abdication of the Kaiser, a new, republican system of government formed in Germany. However, left-wing communist radicals, backed by the Soviet Union, opposed this government and violently revolted against it, attempting to impose a totalitarian Bolshevik state. After the failure of the January Revolt of 1919, left-wing paramilitary outfits continued to engage in campaigns of street violence and terror against their political opponents. The Weimar government was, on its own, too weak to suppress the communist violence. Instead, military veterans formed what were essentially street gangs called Freikorps, which answered left-wing street violence with right-wing street violence. As the violence continued to spiral throughout the 1920s, complete with a coup or two, the credibility of the moderate centrist party (the SPD) suffered. Their monopoly on violence collapsed completely. Both the communists and the anti-communists became more polarized… and more organized.

Ordinary, middle-class voters were scared of the communists, who could and did take harsh action against their “class enemies,” including the middle-class bourgeoisie. Ordinary, middle-class voters could not count on protection from the weak central government. Indeed, the head of the German communists, a violent revolutionary and honest-to-God Stalinist named Ernst Thälmann, enjoyed enough support to be considered a credible candidate for German leadership — even as Thälmann ordered his paramilitary, the “antifa” Red Front, to wage war against mainstream right-wingers and centrists for being “social fascists.” (I wasn’t joking when I said above that intolerance for fascism quickly turns into intolerance for all political opposition. This is but one example from a century full of examples.)

However, middle-class voters were not without hope. Through their organization, their numbers, and their record of accomplishments, middle-class voters knew that they could count on another force to protect them from the Communists: the Sturmabteilung, one of several spiritual successors to the disbanded Freikorps. This anti-communist organization commanded some 60,000 men, including a motorized division for rapid mustering. They had been very effective at defending right-wing speakers against communist violence, and they had inflicted quite a bit of retaliatory violence against left-wing speakers as well. And so, in large part hoping simply to protect themselves and their neighbors from the unhinged “antifa” left, enough scared German voters went to the polls in 1930 to make the SA’s leader the second-most powerful man in Germany.

That leader was Adolf Hitler. The SA was the paramilitary arm of his Nazi Party.

(The communists finished third. It is interesting to speculate whether history would have turned out better or worse had Thälmann ultimately taken power instead of Hitler.)

The Nazis came to power, then, not because liberalism was too tolerant and refused to punch Nazis. The Nazis came to power because liberalism broke down. The Nazis came to power because people started punching Nazis (and, soon enough, everybody else in the political right or center), and, as liberalism collapsed, the Nazis were the only ones who could plausibly promise to restore order and protect ordinary voters from the consequences.

Karl Popper was wrong. (And his latter-day exponents are much wronger.) Under liberalism, tolerance of other ideologies must be absolute. If their proponents commit crimes, go ahead and bring them in through ordinary due process, but the “crime” needs to be more than “this guy believes an evil ideology.” If you try to carve out exceptions where we don’t have to tolerate violent or intolerant ideologies, then liberalism destroys itself, the violent come to power, and you end up in the same place as nearly every other society in history before we invented liberalism: living under authoritarianism.

So, one reason to punch Nazis: they deserve it.

Two reasons not to: everyone ends up getting punched, and the ensuing violence only makes the Nazis stronger.

Don’t punch Nazis.

NEXT: The Worthy Reads post for October, originally scheduled for this morning, will instead go up on Tuesday.