<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[De Civitate]]></title><description><![CDATA["And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat?"]]></description><link>https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U6Ka!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb3402975-a951-4f1e-93b1-b4ea73860550_293x293.png</url><title>De Civitate</title><link>https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2026 18:43:36 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[James J. Heaney]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[decivitate@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[decivitate@substack.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[James J. Heaney]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[James J. Heaney]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[decivitate@substack.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[decivitate@substack.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[James J. Heaney]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[How Many Immigrants is Too Many?]]></title><description><![CDATA[If you tell me your number, I'll tell you America's.]]></description><link>https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/how-many-immigrants-is-too-many</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/how-many-immigrants-is-too-many</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[James J. Heaney]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2026 13:03:33 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4b8325d0-86b8-43ba-a42e-ab4ab9eee829_1037x571.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NASE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79266e3f-25b2-47f3-8dc4-71e11a2e17ec_1196x1600.webp" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NASE!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79266e3f-25b2-47f3-8dc4-71e11a2e17ec_1196x1600.webp 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NASE!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79266e3f-25b2-47f3-8dc4-71e11a2e17ec_1196x1600.webp 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NASE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79266e3f-25b2-47f3-8dc4-71e11a2e17ec_1196x1600.webp 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NASE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79266e3f-25b2-47f3-8dc4-71e11a2e17ec_1196x1600.webp 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NASE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79266e3f-25b2-47f3-8dc4-71e11a2e17ec_1196x1600.webp" width="398" height="532.4414715719064" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/79266e3f-25b2-47f3-8dc4-71e11a2e17ec_1196x1600.webp&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1600,&quot;width&quot;:1196,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:398,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;*NY Postcard-\&quot;Tourists @ Bedlloe's Island, 1900\&quot; *Statue of Liberty,NY {G328-S1- - Picture 1 of 2&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="*NY Postcard-&quot;Tourists @ Bedlloe's Island, 1900&quot; *Statue of Liberty,NY {G328-S1- - Picture 1 of 2" title="*NY Postcard-&quot;Tourists @ Bedlloe's Island, 1900&quot; *Statue of Liberty,NY {G328-S1- - Picture 1 of 2" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NASE!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79266e3f-25b2-47f3-8dc4-71e11a2e17ec_1196x1600.webp 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NASE!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79266e3f-25b2-47f3-8dc4-71e11a2e17ec_1196x1600.webp 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NASE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79266e3f-25b2-47f3-8dc4-71e11a2e17ec_1196x1600.webp 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NASE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79266e3f-25b2-47f3-8dc4-71e11a2e17ec_1196x1600.webp 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">&#8220;&#8230;your huddled masses, yearning to breathe free.&#8221; (I tried to put the entirety of &#8220;<a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46550/the-new-colossus">The New Colossus</a>&#8221; in this caption, but Substack didn&#8217;t like it, so <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46550/the-new-colossus">go read it</a>. It is one of the great patriotic poems. It wasn&#8217;t written until 1883, but beats with the heart of the Founding generation.)</figcaption></figure></div><h2><em>I.</em></h2><p>I don&#8217;t remember much of junior-year U.S. History, but I remember learning about the Know-Nothing Party.</p><p>The Know-Nothings only rated about two paragraphs in our textbook (Alan Brinkley&#8217;s <em>American History: A Survey</em>), but those paragraphs stood out. The Know-Nothing Party first arose as a loose federation of anti-immigrant secret societies, mostly in the late 1840s. In 1850, they united to form the Supreme Order of the Star-Spangled Banner, which (among other things) required its members to deny all knowledge of party activities. (They would instead say, &#8220;I know nothing,&#8221; hence the nickname.) </p><p>They entered national politics around the same time, dubbing their political wing the &#8220;American Party.&#8221; This brand-new party had a <em>huge</em> impact on the 1852 and 1854 elections. Know-Nothings swept into power in Massachusetts and won House seats sprinkled throughout North and South. In 1856, they won 20% of the presidential vote running Millard Fillmore, an ex-president. This would be something like Hillary Clinton running against Obama in 2008 on the Green Party ticket.</p><p>Then, practically overnight, the Know-Nothings collapsed over the Slavery Question.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> </p><p>The Know-Nothings hated immigrants, Catholics, and the Irish, and they had <a href="https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/american-party-platform-1856">no other views whatsoever</a>. Even after their party collapsed, nativism (which had arisen out of nowhere in the 1840s and 1850s) remained a potent force in American politics for the next 70 years or so.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> It was not until the 1920s that the children of the Know-Nothings finally started to fade into irrelevance.</p><p>I thought they were insane.</p><p>These guys had built their whole <em>identities </em>around hating immigrants. How was this <em>possible</em>? I was a rule-of-law conservative, so I had serious concerns about <em>illegal</em> immigration. But the immigration that got the Know-Nothings out of bed in the morning was <em>perfectly legal!</em> I marveled. How could one even complain about <em>legal</em> immigrants? Why would anyone work so hard to keep new volunteer Americans <em>out</em> of our great country? Weren't the Know-Nothings children of immigrants themselves? Weren't we all?</p><p>It was 2005. I could not imagine what was coming.</p><h2><em>II.</em></h2><p>Virtually everyone agrees that there should be <em>some</em> maximum on immigration. </p><p>Do you doubt this?</p><p>Imagine that you woke up tomorrow to find that the entire population of Afghanistan (pop. 50 million) had immigrated to your state overnight, and that, as a result:</p><ul><li><p>Your city, town, or neighborhood now has a population 100x larger than it did yesterday, and (therefore)</p></li><li><p>99% of the people now living in your city/town/neighborhood are Afghans who did <em>not</em> live there yesterday.</p></li></ul><p>This would cause very serious problems. </p><p><strong>Physically</strong>, where are all these new arrivals going to live? Do they crowd into existing units? Do you suddenly have to build a whole lot more units? Do the <em>immigrants, </em>out of desperation,<em> </em>start building new housing units without a permit? Is there even enough food in town to support all these new residents?</p><p><strong>Economically</strong>, how are they all going to get jobs? How will your city extend its existing infrastructure to provide them with standard city services, like schools and water (and possibly welfare), without a crippling budget crisis? How are <em>you</em> going to <em>keep</em> the job you already have in the economic disruption that follows this vast overnight arrival?</p><p>People tend to fixate on these challenging questions, because the answers have numbers in them, so they don&#8217;t seem <em>too</em> racist. However, the <em>really</em> hard questions <em>don&#8217;t</em> have numbers in them:</p><p><strong>Socially</strong>, you are now a tiny 1% minority among a people who believes all women must wear the <em>hijab</em>. They mostly don&#8217;t understand, much less agree with, the American notion of pluralism. They do not even speak your language, and the majority consider your religion (be it Christian or No Religion) a second-class abomination. How do you fit into the social fabric of this new local majority? </p><p>Meanwhile, the new arrivals have imported a number of inter-tribal conflicts from their homeland (our homelands all had them, too!), which they begin to enact on your streets, <em>Gangs of New York</em>-style. If they didn&#8217;t have inter-tribal conflicts before, don&#8217;t worry: the upheaval of migration will <em>cause</em> conflicts and violence. How does that violence change the way you live? Heck, how does it change your property value?</p><p>More fundamentally, these Afghan immigrants are simply from a very different culture from yours. Even after they learn English, it is still <em>difficult</em> to understand their body language, their idioms, their expectations of you in daily interactions. You soon learn that the Afghan residents have never been socialized to return the shopping cart to the cart corral (they don&#8217;t have big-box marts back home), they don&#8217;t understand why they would need to, and they point-blank refuse the tiny native minority that encourages them to return the shopping cart anyway. Unfortunately, our society is founded on People Who Return The Shopping Cart. Theirs isn&#8217;t. That doesn&#8217;t make them bad members of <em>their</em> societies, but it will be a source of friction in ours&#8212;alongside a thousand other points of friction. </p><p>In 2001, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210214115108/https://www.chronicle.com/blogs/percolator/robert-putnam-says-his-research-was-twisted">Robert Putnam discovered</a> that, contrary to popular corporate belief, more diverse communities tend to have <em>lower</em> social trust than more homogenous one. These points of friction are a likely culprit. </p><p>Local institutions that might otherwise ease these frictions and facilitate cross-cultural bonding, like churches, bowling leagues, and local non-profits, are either destroyed in the face of the upheaval, or far too small to be relevant. How do you sustain the institutions that defined your community in the wake of a tsunami? Besides, as a self-sustaining insular majority, the recent immigrants have no incentive to assimilate to your culture, and are inclined to wonder why you aren&#8217;t trying to assimilate to <em>their</em> culture instead.</p><p><strong>Electorally</strong>, these new residents haven&#8217;t naturalized as American citizens yet, but they will someday, probably as soon as they can. At that point, you and everyone in your town will be outnumbered 99-to-1 by the Afghan vote. Your entire city council will certainly be replaced by Afghans. They will legislate according to Afghan values, hoping to appeal to their overwhelming Afghan constituents. When they vote to impose the <em>hijab</em> on all women in town, you&#8217;re going to lose that vote. Maybe a federal court will eventually step into overturn the law, maybe not, but you&#8217;re still going to lose the vote. How many of your peers will simply accept the <em>hijab</em> so as not to make a fuss? How many of them fear they, their families, or their homes might face retaliation if they join that lawsuit?</p><p>The priorities of your police will change, too. So will the way they enforce the law. Not to put too fine a point on it, but Afghan attitudes toward the rape of &#8220;loose women&#8221; is quite different from ours. How does that shift change local policing? How does it change your life?</p><p>I&#8217;m not making any claim here that American culture is <em>better</em> than Afghan culture.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> The culture that arises from massive Afghan migration to your city won&#8217;t necessarily be <em>bad</em>. However, it will no longer be <em>your</em> culture. In a hundred-fold immigration event, the culture of your neighborhood will be destroyed instantly and replaced by an entirely different culture&#8212;a new culture where you and your neighbors (now an extreme minority) will become alien, often uncomfortable, and perhaps even <a href="https://www.rferl.org/a/afghanistan-sikh-hindu-muslim-taliban-restrictions/32559175.html">persecuted</a>. </p><p>We see, then, that every community has a finite capacity to assimilate immigrants. If a community exceeds its capacity, it will strain community institutions, and natives will face genuine struggles. If a community <em>greatly</em> exceeds its capacity, its indigenous culture will be destroyed.</p><p>For instance, there is no community that could absorb the overwhelming wave of migration I described in Section II. Most communities would collapse at far lower immigration levels. All would feel significant strain. </p><p>That&#8217;s not because immigrants are bad people or because natives are racist xenophobes or anything. Even if every single person involved, on both sides, is a perfectly virtuous saint striving to act generously toward their guests/hosts, it&#8217;s simply impossible for the native culture to remain intact if it overshoots its assimilation capacity.</p><p>Even supporters of completely free and open borders recognize that each community has a finite capacity to absorb immigrants. They simply believe it <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20240205120018/https://www.thenation.com/article/society/open-borders-immigration/">will never arrive</a>, since, in fact, the entire population of Afghanistan <em>will not</em> immigrate to your state overnight. Which is true!</p><h2><em>III. </em></h2><p>However, you don&#8217;t <em>need</em> the entire population of Afghanistan to immigrate for your community to feel the strain. Consider England. <em>National Review</em>&#8217;s Abigail Anthony, who lived there for two years, <a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2026/02/the-u-k-is-in-peril/">gave this report</a> last December, of which I will quote only a few choice excerpts:</p><blockquote><p>When I was walking through Oxford around midnight after an evening event that offered unsatisfying <em>hors d&#8217;oeuvres</em>, I stopped at a kebab food truck because it was the only place open <em>en route</em> to my apartment (and at that hour, there was no line). But I was not served: The man working there told me to come back and order once I was wearing a <em>hijab</em>. The remark was so unexpected that I couldn&#8217;t think of anything to say other than &#8220;okay,&#8221; and I walked home hungry and stunned. The encounter could have been grounds for a sex- or religious-discrimination case, but it was a he-said-she-said scenario, so it became only another painful anecdote about Britain&#8217;s degeneration.</p><p>&#8230;the growing resentment arises from the observation that non-European immigrants often fail to comply with basic norms, let alone thoroughly assimilate. An alarming example is that more than half &#8212; 55 percent &#8212; of British Pakistanis have married a first cousin (which has long been legal in the U.K., but formerly rare). The resulting harms can hardly be overstated: The Wellcome Trust found in 2003 that infant mortality and childhood morbidity rates were higher in British Pakistanis than in other ethnic groups, and a 2005 BBC investigation concluded that Pakistanis represent 30 percent of all British children with recessive disorders. Despite the harms that result from inbreeding, an arm of the National Health Service England suggested in 2025 that first-cousin marriage has &#8220;benefits,&#8221; and further warned against criticizing such arrangements because doing so &#8220;stigmatises certain communities&#8230;&#8221;</p><p>&#8230;Through freedom-of-information requests and subsequent analysis, the Centre for Migration Control showed that foreign nationals are arrested at twice the rate of British natives, and foreign nationals are 3.5 times more likely to be arrested for sexual offenses.</p><p>&#8230;A Kosovan cocaine dealer was not deported after the court ruled it would be &#8220;unduly harsh&#8221; on his one-year-old daughter because she is too young to participate in video calls, while a Pakistani man who was sentenced to 18 months in jail for preying on &#8220;barely pubescent girls&#8221; was allowed to remain because the judge concluded that it would be &#8220;unduly harsh for [his] children to be without their father.&#8221;</p><p>&#8230;Even the Office for Budget Responsibility has acknowledged that the average British-born worker contributes a net cumulative &#163;280,000 to public finances by age 66, whereas each low-paid migrant (classified as earning half the average wage) costs taxpayers &#163;151,000 by the same age.</p></blockquote><p>In Oxford, where the <em>hijab</em> incident happened, people born outside the U.K. are only <a href="https://www.oxford.gov.uk/population-statistics/international-migration-statistics">35% of the population</a>, not 99%.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> </p><p>(Foreign-born people do, however, account for 62% of <em>births</em> in Oxford, so that number will change fast.)</p><p>For my part, I&#8217;ll tell just one little story: </p><p>I was at our local Six Flags park, Valleyfair, on closing night last season. I was on a date with my wife. It was our first night out without the kids in weeks. Mostly, we had a lovely time. In line for Undertakers (a haunted house), we found ourselves behind a group of Somali<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> teen girls who must have never experienced a haunted house before, or possibly even heard of the concept, because they found every single thing <em>terrifying</em>. They screamed at the tops of their lungs, jumped about a foot in the air at every surprise, and then giggled their way to the next room while they recovered. My wife and I have done countless haunted houses and grown largely impervious to them, so their youthful innocence, their pure horror/joy, was a balm. We surreptitiously followed the Somali girls to Berserkers (another haunted house), just to see how they reacted. </p><p>That was where we lost them, unfortunately, because one of the girls was so scared by one of the actors that she either fell over or briefly passed out, and we were waved along to the next room while people in vests intervened. I don&#8217;t want to wax poetic about what amounts to my wife and I creeping on some kids having a good time without ever actually talking to them, but those girls were terrific. They encountered our culture with open hearts, and everyone gained from the exchange. It was an Immigration Yes! moment.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0dse!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d1fc059-f72d-482d-bae5-b28c48b05263_4000x3000.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0dse!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d1fc059-f72d-482d-bae5-b28c48b05263_4000x3000.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0dse!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d1fc059-f72d-482d-bae5-b28c48b05263_4000x3000.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0dse!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d1fc059-f72d-482d-bae5-b28c48b05263_4000x3000.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0dse!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d1fc059-f72d-482d-bae5-b28c48b05263_4000x3000.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0dse!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d1fc059-f72d-482d-bae5-b28c48b05263_4000x3000.jpeg" width="1456" height="1092" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5d1fc059-f72d-482d-bae5-b28c48b05263_4000x3000.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1092,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:8058366,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/145595576?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d1fc059-f72d-482d-bae5-b28c48b05263_4000x3000.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0dse!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d1fc059-f72d-482d-bae5-b28c48b05263_4000x3000.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0dse!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d1fc059-f72d-482d-bae5-b28c48b05263_4000x3000.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0dse!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d1fc059-f72d-482d-bae5-b28c48b05263_4000x3000.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0dse!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d1fc059-f72d-482d-bae5-b28c48b05263_4000x3000.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">The night in question. (Wife&#8217;s face blurred. Somali teens not pictured, since that would actually be creepy. I&#8217;m the long shadow taking the picture.)</figcaption></figure></div><p>On the other hand, when we left Berserkers, we were told we couldn&#8217;t enter the Blood on the Boundary Waters scare zone&#8212;which was a bummer, because Blood on the Boundary Waters is pretty new, and it&#8217;s some of Valleyfair&#8217;s best scare work. Apparently, there had been an incident of some kind elsewhere at the fair, and Boundary Waters staff had to be pulled away to respond to it. We walked around to the other side of the park, where we saw very large groups of young Somali men, who did not seem to be on friendly terms with one another, and more staff pulled from other scare zones, moving quickly to unknown destinations. </p><p>I think we got one more spookhouse finished and were in line for the Renegade roller coaster when the lights came up and an announcement started. Valleyfair, abruptly closed, two hours early, ruining the rest of our date and getting us stuck in the sudden crush of parking lot traffic for over an hour. (Parking lot traffic was not improved by the large number of police that were suddenly swarming the main entrance.) It was a sad end to a good season, especially (I assume) for the hard-working scare cast.</p><p>Our institutions did the usual thing, of course. Valleyfair released a maximally bland statement explaining that &#8220;two altercations&#8221; had led to the closure. (Pretty big altercations, to require so much staff to run across the park to address it!) Police gave a statement that contained no information. Local journalists, to a man, <a href="https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/fighting-forces-early-closure-of-valleyfair-on-final-night-of-2025-season">reported the closure</a>, printed the press releases, sought out no witnesses, asked no questions, and did no follow-up. The suspects were never publicly identified nor described. The reports were designed to anesthetize, not inform.</p><p>This silence was absolutely necessary, because, of course, the suspects were all Somalis. This was exactly the same playbook the institutions had run in 2018, when <em><a href="https://www.twincities.com/2018/09/22/valleyfair-evacuated-after-fights-break-out-2">exactly the same thing happened</a> </em>, which came a year after <em><a href="https://www.twincities.com/2017/05/26/valleyfairs-adult-night-turns-into-fight-night/">almost the same thing happened</a></em>. The 2017/18 incidents<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a> had led Valleyfair to dramatically tighten security, turning the experience of entering an amusement park into something like the TSA line at the airport, with metal detectors, strict chaperone rules, bag searches, the works. The bad behavior came from very few people, but impacted everyone&#8230; and, apparently, it still wasn&#8217;t enough. </p><p>Somali immigrant violence has also been linked to major disruptions or closures at the <a href="https://alphanews.org/chaos-at-bloomingtons-mall-of-america-on-islamic-eid-holiday/">Mall of America</a>, the <a href="https://kstp.com/kstp-news/local-news/19-year-old-charged-in-shooting-that-injured-3-teens-near-state-fair-charter-school/">Minnesota</a> State <a href="https://alphanews.org/chaos-and-violence-mar-final-night-of-minnesota-state-fair/">Fair</a>, and the <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/somali-night-fight-police">University of Minnesota</a>.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a></p><p>These are not signs that Somalis are bad people or &#8220;<a href="https://x.com/BCSWowbagger/status/1985200884973015316">scum</a>&#8221; or whatever else angry people on the Internet say about them. Somalis are just like any other large group of people: mostly decent folk trying to make a good life for themselves and their children.</p><p>However, these <em>are</em> signs that parts of Minnesota&#8217;s social and economic infrastructure for assimilating immigrants may be stressed beyond capacity. As a result, things are getting worse here, for everyone. Not a lot worse, we&#8217;re not sliding into the abyss, but twenty-five years ago, Valleyfair had no curfew, no visible security&#8230; and no gang fights closing the park. The Mall of America&#8217;s curfew rules have grown a lot over the decades, and always in one direction: more secure, because the crowd in the Mall has gotten more dangerous. Those of us old enough to remember before 2005 aren&#8217;t blind. Major venue closures like this were unheard of.</p><p>The foreign-born population of the Twin Cities seven-county metro area is not even <em>close</em> to 99%, like in our Afghanistan hypothetical. It&#8217;s not even 35%, like in Oxford. It&#8217;s <a href="https://mn.gov/deed/assets/082223_immigration_TC_tcm1045-324882.pdf">just 12%</a>. The fact that we are experiencing some strains doesn&#8217;t mean we&#8217;ve reached our limit, but it does mean we shouldn&#8217;t just <em>assume</em> that we still have vast unused capacity.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>De Civitate</em> is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2><em>IV. </em></h2><p>Given that every community has a finite capacity for assimilating immigrants, you might expect immigration debates to be about the very specific question I&#8217;ve raised: <em>what is our community&#8217;s capacity for assimilating immigrants, and have we reached it?</em></p><p>If the answer to the second question is, &#8220;<em>No, we haven&#8217;t reached our capacity yet</em>,&#8221; then it seems obvious, under most popular moral codes, that we ought to welcome honest, hard-working immigrants to our communities. By default, people all over the world should be free to settle where they think best for themselves and their families. The very nature of land is that it pre-exists all of us and was earned by none of us, the common patrimony of the entire human race. If we are to exclude some people from land we say is &#8220;ours,&#8221; we&#8217;d better have a very good reason for it, or we&#8217;re no better than robbers. This is doubly true in America, the great melting pot, the only nation where <em>everyone</em> has immigrant roots.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a> It&#8217;s <em>trebly</em> true when people are fleeing war, chaos, or desperate poverty, and America is their best chance at survival! We owe it to the poor and suffering to do our best to help!</p><p>On the other hand, if the answer is, &#8220;<em>Yes, we&#8217;ve hit our capacity for now</em>,&#8221; then it seems equally obvious, under most popular moral codes,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a> that the community has a right to protect its native residents from undue strain, and that the community can take action to protect its indigenous culture from erosion. This probably means restricting new immigration, if only for a little while&#8212;with the entire enforcement apparatus such restrictions depend on.</p><p>So you would expect immigration debates to mostly be dry arguments about capacity. Each disputant would come to the debate with a specific number in mind, and then the debate would be about whose number is correct. Once you know the community&#8217;s assimilation capacity, and compare that capacity to the number of immigrants the community is already assimilating, identifying appropriate immigration policies is almost trivial. If the community is well below capacity? More immigrants! Near capacity? Fewer immigrants! At capacity? No more immigrants for now!</p><p>This would not be an <em>easy</em> debate. Obviously, the capacity to assimilate immigrants varies from community to community. Some are more culturally open to immigration than others. Some have stronger social infrastructure, which can handle an influx. Some <em>immigrant</em> communities have stronger social infrastructure, too, which can make assimilation <a href="https://tiredmoderate.substack.com/p/the-jewishmuslim-thought-experiment">easier or harder</a>. Native communities have an easier time assimilating immigrants from a similar culture than from a very different culture. (For example, the average Canadian has an easier time assimilating to life in America than the average Greek.) Moreover, there isn&#8217;t a single binary point where immigration flips from &#8220;no problem at all&#8221; to &#8220;big problem.&#8221; It happens gradually, and different citizens will have different tolerances for different levels of strain in different areas of life. And so on.</p><p>It isn&#8217;t necessarily simple to <em>measure</em> your unassimilated immigrant communities, either. Obviously, everyone who comes from a foreign country to America as an adult is an unassimilated immigrant at first. But what about someone who immigrates as a baby and never knows life anywhere but America? Is that person an immigrant, in the relevant sense, or is she culturally and economically just an American? (What about an eight-year-old? A sixteen-year-old?) What about children born in America, but they&#8217;re born into strongly self-segregated immigrant enclaves, and so are not integrated into American society? Should they count toward a community&#8217;s capacity for assimilation? Don&#8217;t they still need to be assimilated? How can you even count heads for the vague category of &#8220;unassimilated natives&#8221;?<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a> In this article so far, I&#8217;ve used &#8220;foreign-born share of population&#8221; as my measure, but this simple measurement misses many nuances.</p><p>The debate, then, is not just a debate about what our immigration capacity is, but about who even counts as an &#8220;immigrant&#8221; for the purposes of immigration capacity. This is a complex debate, with many defensible answers.</p><p>Nevertheless, the fact remains: every community always has a finite capacity for immigrants, so immigration debates <em>should</em> center on identifying our capacity and how close we are to hitting it.</p><p>That&#8230; is not quite how immigration debates work in the United States.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a> Instead, the pro-immigrant camp talks about the desperate needs of immigrants and all the (genuine) benefits they bring, but never get around to arguing what their position requires: that the U.S. has a great deal of unused capacity for assimilating immigrants. The anti-immigrant camp talks about all the costs of mass immigration, but they rarely get around to arguing that the costs outweigh the benefits. When they say things like, &#8220;America&#8217;s full,&#8221; they rarely propose a level of immigration where American <em>isn&#8217;t</em> full.</p><p>In other words, the two camps talk right past each other.</p><p>We can do better. </p><p>First, we can admit that the question of immigration capacity exists&#8212;and that it is, in fact, one of the central questions of immigration policy. </p><p>Second, we can admit that this question has a bounded range of <em>reasonably objective</em> answers, which we can likely identify through study and discussion. </p><p>Third, we can do our level best to try to find at least one such answer. I&#8217;ll give you my best shot. </p><p>Let&#8217;s take it to the map!</p><h2><em>V. </em></h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!F5yp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F856801ef-a639-461b-be0f-34f8ef801b64_1080x775.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!F5yp!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F856801ef-a639-461b-be0f-34f8ef801b64_1080x775.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!F5yp!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F856801ef-a639-461b-be0f-34f8ef801b64_1080x775.png 848w, 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Either this image is indecipherable to you, or you shouted &#8220;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgOx3h49M8c">Do it, Rockapella</a>!&#8221; (No, there are not higher-rez images available.)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Let&#8217;s consider our peer nations: the other members of the G7. Every country is different, but the wealthy, free nations of the G7 are more like the United States than most anywhere else.</p><p>&#8220;Foreign-born residents&#8221; is still, statistically speaking, a blunt instrument, but it gives us a ballpark idea of how many immigrants each nation is assimilating, and&#8212;this is crucial&#8212;it is a statistic that every nation in the G7 actually reports. Here are the reports from our G7 peers:</p><ul><li><p><strong>Canada: </strong><a href="https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2021/dp-pd/dv-vd/imm/index-en.cfm">21%</a> of residents are foreign-born</p></li><li><p><strong>Germany</strong>: <a href="https://www.destatis.de/EN/Themes/Society-Environment/Population/Migration-Integration/Tables/migrant-status-selected-countries.html">20%</a></p></li><li><p><strong>The U.K.</strong>: <a href="https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migrants-in-the-uk-an-overview/">16%</a></p></li><li><p><strong>Italy</strong>: <a href="https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=EU_population_diversity_by_citizenship_and_country_of_birth">12%</a></p></li><li><p><strong>France</strong>: <a href="https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/3633212">11%</a></p></li><li><p><strong>Japan</strong>: <a href="https://www.ft.com/content/7f314584-4865-4237-ac06-67b013481460?syn-25a6b1a6=1">3%</a></p></li></ul><p>There are various reasonable ways of adjusting these figures,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a> but, for simplicity, I&#8217;ll use them as-is.</p><p>Germany, the U.K., and France are all in moderate-but-prolonged political crisis over their immigration levels. In each country, anti-immigration sentiment has become so strong that the most likely outcome of the next election is a far-right, anti-immigrant party becoming the largest party and/or winning the presidency.</p><p>Italy is <em>not</em> currently experiencing such a crisis&#8230; because they <em>already</em> elected far-right<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a> immigration hawk Giorgia Miloni in 2022. Despite intense global antipathy for incumbents, Miloni is on track to win re-election quite comfortably, unlike her counterparts in Northern Europe.</p><p>Even Japan, with its tiny foreign-born population of 3%, is <a href="https://www.ft.com/content/7f314584-4865-4237-ac06-67b013481460?syn-25a6b1a6=1">experiencing</a> immigration-related <a href="https://www.japantimes.co.jp/commentary/2025/06/12/japan/japan-immigration/">anxiety</a> right now. I think this is evidence of how different cultures have different capacities to assimilate immigrants. It seems to me, with my limited window into daily Japanese life, that Japanese culture depends on high trust, etiquette, and conformity to social norms, <em>much</em> more than American or British society. This has enormous benefits. (To name one: a self-policing society doesn&#8217;t need the kind of huge police force and prison system that ours does.) However, when your society depends on deeply ingrained social norms, foreigners who <em>don&#8217;t</em> have that ingrained etiquette can become a problem much faster than they would in America.</p><p>The one country on this list that <em>isn&#8217;t </em>embroiled in some kind of immigration-related political crisis is the one at the top: Canada. High immigration levels have certainly caused political tensions up north, but, at least from <a href="https://www.cfr.org/backgrounders/what-canadas-immigration-policy">my vantage point</a>, the system has been able to handle those tensions without serious disruption. Nothing&#8217;s boiling over. The current left-wing Liberal Party government is in no serious danger, and the right-populist People&#8217;s Party of Canada stands no chance of taking power in the next election. This capacity to receive comparatively large numbers of immigrants is, frankly, impressive, and I do wonder what factors are making it work for them. This underlines what I&#8217;ve already said: there are lot of variables, and every community is different.</p><p>Excluding the outliers of Canada and Japan, though, this list suggests that nations likely start to hit capacity when immigrants make up around 10% or 20% of their national population. This seems to line up, broadly, with the experiences of many other countries.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-14" href="#footnote-14" target="_self">14</a></p><p>This is a ballpark figure and likely varies a lot between cultures (again, look at Japan and Canada!), but it gives us a starting point as we turn our eye back toward America.</p><h2><em>VI. </em></h2><p>I was still puzzling over the Know-Nothings in college, when I saw a version of this chart:</p><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/CBPgK/2/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1361c5dd-af89-446d-98e6-d5f5ccf2836d_1220x782.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/71da0bae-a122-4de7-ae7b-9c0eca97d6c8_1220x918.png&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:451,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Foreign-Born Share of U.S. Population, 1848-2010&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;&quot;}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/CBPgK/2/" width="730" height="451" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div><p>Seeing this chart didn&#8217;t make me <em>agree</em> with the Know-Nothings, but it helped me <em>understand</em> them. </p><p>The Know-Nothings&#8217; heyday was 1854-1856, but they rose steadily during the late 1840s. Unfortunately, our data for the 1840s and earlier is pretty weak, but, even so, just take a gander at how <em>steep</em> that upward line is between 1840 and 1850! It&#8217;s reasonable to assume that the foreign-born population of the United States <em>doubled</em> in the span of about five years, far outpacing the social infrastructure for assimilating those immigrants into American culture. </p><p>Imagine living through that! You wouldn&#8217;t know the exact stats like we do (modern demography was not widely practiced in the 1850s) but you&#8217;d have a pretty clear idea that your country was transforming around you, and any strains on your institutions would be obvious.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-15" href="#footnote-15" target="_self">15</a> This would be especially clear in immigrant-heavy communities, where the strain on institutions would have been strongest, like Boston. Is it still surprising that the Know-Nothings won <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1854%E2%80%9355_United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections&amp;oldid=1354468388#Massachusetts">about 70%</a> of the <a href="https://malegislature.gov/StateHouse/MediaGallery/Image/DistrictMap-Congress-1852.jpg">Boston vote</a> in the 1854 House election, ousting incumbents throughout the state?</p><p>In 2010, when I saw this chart, I was still puzzling over the defeat of President Bush&#8217;s 2007 immigration plan. Bush&#8217;s plan provided tougher border enforcement in exchange for a &#8220;pathway to citizenship.&#8221; Illegal immigrants already in the United States who had a job could pay a nominal fine ($1,000-$2,000) for their lawbreaking, wait a number of years, and become citizens. I supported this approach, but Republican critics called it an &#8220;amnesty,&#8221; Bush couldn&#8217;t <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a8iieGUw-E">win them over</a>, and the bill sank beneath the waves. The tougher &#8220;Gang of Eight&#8221; bill died the very same death in 2013.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-16" href="#footnote-16" target="_self">16</a></p><p>This did not make sense to me. Obviously, we had millions of illegal immigrants in our country, and that was bad, but illegal immigration wasn&#8217;t, like, murder or anything, and we were never going to deport them all,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-17" href="#footnote-17" target="_self">17</a> so there would have to be <em>some</em> kind of deal made. These deals seemed like pretty good ones! So why were my fellow Republicans getting so incandescently furious about them? Why did polls <a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/world/majority-of-us-citizens-say-illegal-immigrants-should-be-deported-idUSBRE91K01M/">keep showing</a> that Americans <a href="https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/HHP_Sep2025_KeyResults.pdf">broadly supported</a> impossible, traumatic, sometimes unjust <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2024/09/27/trump-and-harris-supporters-differ-on-mass-deportations-but-favor-border-security-high-skilled-immigration/">mass deportations</a>?</p><p>The chart gave me an inkling: maybe Americans outside my cozy existence at a small liberal arts university in Minnesota, far <em>far</em> away from the southern border, were seeing disruptions I wasn&#8217;t, feeling strains I hadn&#8217;t felt.</p><h2><em>VII.</em></h2><p>The next few years seemed to bear that out:</p><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/OfVGy/1/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/fa97d718-52f0-4283-9ff3-6888ded31865_1220x782.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/fc5689de-b5a0-4e71-84d5-e62c5616a796_1220x946.png&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:478,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Foreign-Born Share of U.S. Population, 1848-2025&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;&quot;}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/OfVGy/1/" width="730" height="478" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div><p>As I&#8217;ve said repeatedly, I think it&#8217;s really hard to find a definitive answer to America&#8217;s immigration capacity. There are too many variables to pin down. The definitions are vague. Our best measuring tools are coarse. America has never even seriously debated the question, preferring instead to talk past one another in slogans. We can look at Europe and say, &#8220;Okay, ballpark, our capacity is probably in the 10-20% range,&#8221; but getting to a firm number, much less a <em>national consensus</em> about that number, strikes me as a really, really hard job.</p><p>When I look at this chart, though, it appears that the American people have had the last laugh! Not only do the American people appear to have a number, not only is that number measurable by the incredibly blunt &#8220;foreign-born share of population&#8221; statistic, but the American people appear to have had <em>the same number</em>, more or less, for the past 150 years!</p><p>The number is 10%.</p><p>Whenever the foreign-born population goes above 10% (or so), a critical mass of Americans starts to vote passionately against immigrants and immigration. We might call this the &#8220;warning&#8221; zone, where politics-as-usual goes on, but a large fraction of voters starts making border control a priority. </p><p>However, when the foreign-born share of population hits 13-14%, that&#8217;s the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNxvXj9nff4">&#8220;danger&#8221; zone</a>. At this point, the American people get desperate and start doing crazy stuff to reduce immigration.</p><p>In the 1870s, Americans responded to a 14% foreign-born population by <em>banning Asia. </em>They renewed this commitment, regularly, for the next fifty years, whenever the foreign-born population threatened to tick above 14%. That&#8217;s crazy!</p><p>However, in the 2010s, when the immigrant population again reached 14%, they did something even crazier: they elected <em>Donald Trump</em> leader of the <em>free world</em>.</p><p>By the end of President Biden&#8217;s term, the foreign-born population had reached an all-time high, nearly 16%. At these heretofore unseen levels of immigration, Americans became so rabid about enforcing the nation&#8217;s long-flouted immigration laws that they voted <em>again </em>for ex-President Trump, even though his presidency had been unpopular, he&#8217;d lost re-election, he&#8217;d left office <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/roundup-mnscotus-disqualification">in disgrace</a>, and he was under a justified indictment for stealing classified documents! Trump was now openly promising something akin to a military occupation of multiple American cities to get the job done&#8212;and the American people (by a narrow but clear margin) said, &#8220;<em>Yes! </em>That sounds good! <em>Do that!</em>&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-18" href="#footnote-18" target="_self">18</a> Dubya-tee-eff, mate!</p><p>Now that the White House has backed down on the most aggressive immigration enforcement campaign in American history, I think many people are beginning to forget that it was <em>popular</em> for about the first six months. 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Although that&#8217;s not saying much, given how unpopular Mr. Trump has become.</figcaption></figure></div><p>If Trump's immigration police have been slightly better trained; if his spokesmen had been a little more <a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-somali-immigrants-9.7001275">professional</a>; if Mr. Trump himself had been a little less <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc-Dk2Ba-mM">performatively cruel</a> about deportations; and, above all, if Alex Pretti and Renee Good had not been killed&#8230; Trump's mass deportation policy would likely <em>remain</em> popular today. </p><p>Contrast this rather aggressive anti-immigrant attitude with how things felt in the 1990s. (Kids who don&#8217;t remember the 1990s: trust me on this.)</p><p>Immigration was a calm subject back then! Lots of people took it seriously, but the same way people take the budget deficit seriously: nerds cranked out reports, randos occasionally shouted angrily about it, elected officials frowned about it for the cameras, but nobody considered it <em>existential</em>, one way or the other.</p><p>I know there&#8217;s a risk that I&#8217;m looking back on the years of my childhood with rose-tinted glasses, but I don&#8217;t <em>think</em> I am. Things really seem to have changed.</p><p>In the &#8216;90s, immigration hardliners were cranks. Pat Buchanan was considered a radical in the 1990s, because he supported a border fence, a temporary moratorium on immigration, and ending birthright citizenship by constitutional amendment. This placed Buchanan well to the <em>left</em> of 2026 Donald Trump and today&#8217;s Republican mainstream. Yet Americans were so unmoved by his immigration rhetoric that he never broke 3% support.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-20" href="#footnote-20" target="_self">20</a> Buchanan&#8217;s final presidential run came in the year 2000, just as our foreign-born population hit the &#8220;warning zone.&#8221; In that race, Buchanan lost the California Reform Party primary to&#8230; a guy named Donald Trump.</p><p>However, the immigrant population is now double what it was in the early 1990s. It&#8217;s not surprising that its voters are (in the aggregate) feeling strained, nor that they are demanding stronger border protections and a much more aggressive deportation stance. It must be added: it&#8217;s also not racist for them to feel that way. (However, their resentment can develop <em>into</em> racism if the only people who respect their feelings are racists.)</p><p>Agree or disagree with the voters, like it or not, the American people have apparently made a collective judgment that it&#8217;s fine for 1-in-20 of our neighbors to be foreign-born, but that 1-in-7 justifies drastic measures against them.</p><p>It may be merely coincidence that this number has held so steady across so many decades. There are, once again, lots of variables, a blunt measuring tool, and changing circumstances. America&#8217;s learned capacity for immigrants could still grow (or shrink) and that could happen even in the next decade.</p><p>Still, I think it would be foolish not to take this as at least a starting point: to a first approximation, the American people collectively believe that America is capable of assimilating about 10% of its population at any given moment, and would prefer to keep it at about that level. 15% immigrants? Forget it. At that point, it seems, &#8220;America&#8217;s full.&#8221;</p><p>I wouldn&#8217;t have voted for this consensus myself, but I respect it. </p><p>Immigration touches different social classes in different regions very differently. Some, no doubt, are not negatively affected by immigration at all. Others <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/23/us/undocumented-worker-stolen-identity-dan-kluver.html">suffer greatly</a> from immigration. As an upper-middle-class white university graduate, the effect of immigration on me has been quite small, and much of it has been positive. Most immigrants I know graduated from American colleges. (I know more rich Saudis than poor Somalis.) Immigration is a strong part of my family history. This makes me think that America has a good bit of capacity to spare. Left to my own devices, I would speculate that America&#8217;s immigration capacity is closer to 20% than to 10%. </p><p>However, the beauty of voting is that it takes independent judgments from hundreds of millions of people, weights them appropriately, and averages them together. When we do that, it seems America collectively believes we already have a capacity problem, and have had one for nearly 20 years. Interestingly, this consensus seems to match up pretty well with the rest of the G7, where every country (except Canada) with an immigrant population over 10% finds itself stumbling drunkenly toward the nativist right.</p><p>I want to go back to the immigration politics and immigrant-welcoming atmosphere of the 1990s. I want happy, successful immigrants living free of fear in a country that considers them an asset, not a burden. I want to take the air out of the tires of America&#8217;s nativist agitators, including a certain odious individual who <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/greta-thunberg-pretender-to-the-american">styles himself</a> President of the United States. </p><p>I therefore want to lower the foreign-born population of the United States from 15% to 10%.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>De Civitate</em> is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2><em>VII. </em></h2><p>I am hesitant to continue, since brilliant <a href="https://graymirror.substack.com/p/3-descriptive-constitution-of-the">diagnosticians</a> often give <em>horrendous </em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivism">prescriptions</a>. The essay is certainly more than long enough, and Heaven knows I have poured enough hours and weeks into this difficult article to earn my <em>De Civitate</em> stipend. However, I have just said that the U.S. should &#8220;lower the foreign-born population,&#8221; and I&#8217;m worried someone who wants to open death camps will take what I&#8217;ve written as a justification for doing so. I therefore want to sketch what I think we should do&#8212;and, more importantly, what we <em>shouldn&#8217;t</em> do.</p><p>There are two ways to lower a country&#8217;s foreign-born population. First, the quick way: you can send people who are already here back home. (This could be by deportation, financial incentive, or other inducement.)</p><p>Second, the slow way: you can stop more people from getting in. (If you do, those who are already here will eventually die of old age, and your foreign-born population will fall.)</p><p>However, there are a number of legal and moral limits on these methods.</p><h3><em>The Quick Way: Removal</em></h3><h4><em><strong>Legal Immigrants</strong></em></h4><p>For starters, the United States has no moral right to remove people who are already here, permanently, if they came at our invitation. It would be a great sin to try to &#8220;denaturalize&#8221; and deport naturalized citizens, or even green-card holders, for no other reason than that we don&#8217;t want them here. (It would also violate our laws, and those laws have no chance of changing.) </p><p>If someone committed fraud on the citizenship application, fine, that&#8217;s different&#8212;but it&#8217;s also rare. Likewise, about 1% of the U.S. population are legal nonimmigrants here on temporary visas, such as the H1-B Specialty Worker visa or Temporary Protected Status. As soon as our <em>temporary</em> commitment to those residents has been fulfilled, we should thank them for their partnership and politely send nearly all of them home.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-21" href="#footnote-21" target="_self">21</a> However, our naturalized citizens are part of us now. </p><p>This very basic rule severely limits the pool of immigrants the U.S. can remove from the country. The foreign-born population of the United States is 15%, but a bit less than three-quarters of them are here legally, most as citizens and green-card holders.</p><h4><em><strong>Illegal Immigrants, In General</strong></em></h4><p>Of course, that means more than a quarter of the U.S.&#8217;s foreign-born population is <em>not</em> here at our invitation. They are illegal immigrants. This is unique among our G7 peers. For most countries in the G7, illegal immigrants make up only a single-digit share of the foreign-born population.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-22" href="#footnote-22" target="_self">22</a> The United States has a much larger illegal immigrant problem. If we sent every single one of them back to their nation of citizenship, that, by itself, would get our foreign-born population back down to about 11%. (10% if we also suspended our temporary nonimmigrant programs.)</p><p><em>In general</em>, it is perfectly moral and legal to send an illegal immigrant home, for the same reason that it is perfectly moral and legal to evict a squatter who snuck into your house and has been living secretly in your attic. Even if the squatter is extremely polite (once caught) and offers to pay rent, you are under no moral or ethical obligation to accept his offer. (Doing so may be praiseworthy, if it does not impede your other obligations, but supererogatory.) By the same token, removing an illegal immigrant from the country is a perfectly rational and ethical policy response to someone who &#8220;jumped the line&#8221; and stole into our country.</p><p>This is also <em>vital </em>if we are to have immigration laws at all. If we pass a law saying, &#8220;No more than 10% immigrants,&#8221; but then we don&#8217;t remove people who break that law, the law is a nullity (and America will find itself exploring hitherto unknown levels of assimilation strain and nativist tensions). You cannot have speed limits without police officers. You cannot have insider trading laws without the Securities &amp; Exchange Commission (or something like it). And you cannot have immigration laws without a lot of men with guns patrolling the border, investigating the interior, and sticking violators in detention while their cases are heard.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-23" href="#footnote-23" target="_self">23</a></p><p>I don&#8217;t care whether you call this force &#8220;ICE&#8221; or not. If we want to change the name (and even many of the personnel) because of the bad vibes that have developed over the past year, that&#8217;s fine.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-24" href="#footnote-24" target="_self">24</a> However, if you don&#8217;t believe there should be <em>any</em> police force to identify and remove immigration scofflaws, you don&#8217;t believe in immigration limits at all.</p><p>Indeed, given the immense size and scope of our illegal immigration problem (a scope unmatched in the OECD), I think it was entirely appropriate for the White House to ask Congress to dramatically expand ICE in 2025, and I support Big ICE until the illegal immigration problem is firmly under control.</p><p>That said, there are some exceptions to the general rule that you can send illegal immigrants home.</p><h4><em>Innocent Illegal Immigrants</em></h4><p>Consider a young person who was born in Madagascar and illegally immigrated to the United States as a baby. She has grown up here. She knows only our language and our culture. She has never taken French classes, much less <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Madagascar">Malagasy</a> classes. She never consented to <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/181463406/q-wait-is-entering-the-country-illegally-a-crime-i-thought-it-was-just-a-civil-offense-like-a-traffic-ticket">the crime</a> of illegal entry, and her parents, ashamed, never even told her about her immigration status. She is now 33 years old, working as a nurse under a Social Security number she believes to be genuine, and is married to an American, with two American kids.</p><p>There can be no serious argument that, for all intents and purposes, this young woman&#8217;s homeland is the United States of America. Unfortunately, our law fails to reflect that, and instead prescribes that she should be shipped back to Madagascar when apprehended. This would be a serious injustice against her. The Catholic Church <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/ice-in-the-twin-cities-an-faq#footnote-1">treats it</a> as a <em>sin</em> to forcibly remove people from their homelands. We Americans, too, have a great love of individual ownership over our own lands and our own destinies. Banishment was once recognized as one of the law&#8217;s harshest penalties, reserved for some of the worst crimes; American law has never contemplated it. In a case like this, then, deportation would cause extreme harm to an individual who is innocent of <em>any</em> wrongdoing.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-25" href="#footnote-25" target="_self">25</a> Even if she were somehow guilty, it would still be disproportionate to inflict such serious harm over a misdemeanor offense. It would be an evil act.</p><p>There are, unfortunately, many such cases in the U.S. illegal immigrant population. Most are not quite as clear-cut as the hypothetical I&#8217;ve just given you, but it is clear enough that there are hundreds of thousands of people in this situation or something like it. They make up perhaps 1-2% of the overall U.S. population. Some <a href="https://www.wfmynews2.com/article/news/nation-world/any-lucia-lopez-belloza-babson-college-student-mistakenly-deported-honduras/507-37de1126-7c96-4746-bd9a-df2b1b2b868a">have already been</a> legally, but unjustly, deported.</p><p>The DREAM Act is intended to (eventually) give people in this situation citizenship, so people in this category are broadly referred to as DREAMers. The DREAM Act may be too broad in some respects, and thus may include some illegal immigrants who aren&#8217;t truly innocent, but that isn&#8217;t the reason the DREAM Act has failed to pass. </p><p>The DREAM Act has failed, again and again, because the nativist right refuses to pass legislation increasing the legal, foreign-born population&#8212;not even to prevent obvious injustices!&#8212;until it trusts that the overall foreign-born population is falling anyway.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-26" href="#footnote-26" target="_self">26</a> Since I would like to pass the DREAM Act, or something quite like it, I would like to lower the foreign-born population to 10% or so, since I believe that would enable the Act to finally pass Congress.</p><h4><em>Illegal Immigrants of Absolute Necessity</em></h4><p>By the same token, there are some illegal immigrants who came to the United States because they would have starved to death or been murdered or blown up by an ongoing civil war in their home countries.</p><p>I do not mean that they merely lived in much poorer conditions than one generally finds in the United States. I do not mean that they lived in proximity to violence which <em>might</em> have posed some danger to them, eventually. You don&#8217;t get to break another country&#8217;s law because you&#8217;d like to own a washing machine. I mean that they faced imminent threats to their life, liberty, or basic well-being.</p><p>Such immigrants should, in general, enter the U.S. through the legal asylum process (and can be held accountable for declining to do so). However, because the asylum system focuses on <em>political persecution</em>, immigrants facing other deadly threats did not always have access to the asylum process. They had no choice but to illegally immigrate <em>somewhere</em>. </p><p>Well, they had <em>a</em> choice: illegally immigrate, or die.</p><p>I believe strongly in our right to a border, but that doesn&#8217;t exceed anyone&#8217;s right to <em>life. </em>You might as well sentence a starving man to five years&#8217; hard labor for stealing a <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS8S3ZxVWBw">loaf of bread</a>, and we know <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFQvGJGpM1s">how that ends</a>. We should not deport such people.</p><p>Unlike the innocent illegal immigrants I described above, though, I do not think these cases are common. Indeed, one of the most pervasive and disappointing distortions on the pro-immigrant side of the &#8220;debate&#8221; (such as it is) is this common motte-and-bailey move: first, they claim (as I just did) that some people face threats so dire that their right to migrate cannot be justly hindered by any human power. (That&#8217;s the motte.) Second, the bailey: once you&#8217;ve agreed to this, they act as if <em>every</em> illegal immigrant who claims an economic motive for migration falls into this category, and can never be removed because they have a right to share in our wealth.</p><p>They don&#8217;t. The United States should have some law allowing these sorts of claims to be heard through the asylum process. For example, I am sympathetic to the view that the U.S. should hear out asylum claims from battered wives who believe the only way to escape their husband is to flee the country altogether.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-27" href="#footnote-27" target="_self">27</a> However, these cases are uncommon. The absolute poverty rate in the Western Hemisphere is quite low. The prevalence of gang violence, while unacceptably high, is not generally such that the mere presence of it justifies flight. We do not, as a matter of justice, owe American citizenship to every resident of Ecuador. Serious, justified claims are, I believe, uncommon.</p><p>Of course, if making claims about fear of persecution starts to look like a good way to get into the United States, many immigrants will <em>claim</em> a fear of persecution. Many claimants will be lying, and few will have the receipts to back it up. We must remember this at every stage of the asylum process.</p><h4><em>Illegal Immigrants of Long Tenure</em></h4><p>If the last category was narrow, this category is anything but.</p><p>I have said that it is evil to banish someone from their homeland&#8212;unless, perhaps, they have been convicted of one of the few crimes so serious that, in ancient times, it justified banishment. There is nothing wrong, of course, with using deportation to send someone back <em>to</em> their homeland.</p><p>But what if the land of their birth is no longer their homeland?</p><p>One&#8217;s homeland is not simply a few words on one&#8217;s birth certificate. We are tied down to the place we live in by family, community, culture, work, property, religion, and a thousand other thick ropes. </p><p>My father &#8220;immigrated&#8221; to Minnesota from Philadelphia. When he did so, he lost some ties immediately. Others began to weaken. He forged new bonds here. Bought a house, got a job, raised a family, cheered for the local sports teams, lost his accent, volunteered in the community, read the newspapers, did some potlucks, helped his neighbors, paid his taxes. I don&#8217;t know when it happened, exactly, but, at a certain point&#8212;perhaps ten or twenty years into his sojourn from Philly&#8212;my father&#8217;s homeland ceased to be over there. Now it&#8217;s here. For better or for worse, he is bound to the Twin Cities twenty times more powerfully than he was ever bound to Philadelphia. Of course, he still loves visiting his childhood neighborhood, but, when he <em>goes home</em>, he goes home here, to Minnesota. We have a concept in our law of &#8220;common-law marriage,&#8221; where two unrelated people become married, in the eyes of the law, simply by living together for a long time. My father is a common-law Minnesotan.</p><p>I find myself persuaded by <a href="https://greydanus.substack.com/p/immigration-deportation-and-catholic">Stephen Greydanus&#8217;s argument</a> that the same is true of immigrants to our country&#8230; even illegal immigrants. Even illegal immigrants who <em>knowingly violated our law</em> in coming here, and who have been dodging deportation ever since. After they have been here for a long time, forging ties to our country, this becomes their homeland in fact, even if not in law&#8212;and it is wrong to deport someone from his homeland for any but the most serious crimes. </p><p>Greydanus mentions the case of <a href="https://www.camdendiocese.org/despite-prayers-and-pleas-bridgeton-couple-is-deported/">Oscar Campos</a>, a New Jerseyan who stole into our country illegally 40 years ago. Here, he met and married Humberta Campos (also an illegal immigrant). They ran a small business together, were active members of their parish, had three American children (ages 24, 22, and 15), owned a house, and had all the other attachments that come from living for many decades in the same place. They were apprehended and deported in December 2017, long before the current immigration enforcement surge. It seems to me that this was unjust. Yes, Oscar Campos <em>knowingly</em> violated our laws. Yes, he tried to evade the consequences. But he had assimilated into our society as a common-law American. Thus, deporting him was effectively a banishment. Even though he was guilty of a crime, it was still disproportionate to inflict such a harsh penalty for a misdemeanor offense.</p><p>I still think Campos (and those like him) ought to be punished, of course. First, they violated our laws. Second, they evaded punishment for decades. Third, in the zero-sum world of the national capacity for immigrants, they stole some <em>legal</em> immigrant&#8217;s place in the United States. Fourth, punishment is necessary not merely to redress the harm done by the illegal immigrant, but to deter future illegal immigration. If we allow illegal immigrants of long tenure to remain here (as, it seems to me, we must), then we are putting a neon sign on the border saying, &#8220;Come to America illegally! As long as you can get away with your crime for long enough, you&#8217;ll get to stay!&#8221; Only stern penalties, efficiently administered, can deter this.</p><p>Illegal entry carries a six-month prison sentence. Let Mr. Campos serve it. Garnish his wages, too, for a very long time, in repayment for the spot he took from a legal immigrant. Deny him full citizenship forever, because granting American citizenship to illegal immigrants would be the best possible way to encourage another wave of illegal immigration. Indeed, to deter future violations, the penalty faced by Campos and others like him may need to be harsher than the crime itself might suggest. </p><p>For all that, though, I believe it was morally wrong to rip Mr. Campos away from his adopted homeland and the life and family he had built here.</p><p>I think that principle extends to any illegal immigrant who remains here for at least (let&#8217;s say) twenty years. (Not just the model illegal immigrants, either.)</p><p>That&#8217;s quite a sizable number of illegal immigrants we can never remove.</p><h4><em>Removal Without Deportation</em></h4><p>I am, of course, a big fan of measures that do not forcibly banish people from the United States, but which simply make it less attractive for people to stay here illegally. </p><p>The federal government has a system called E-VERIFY that does a reasonably good job confirming the work authorization of new employees. We&#8217;ve had it for thirty years. However, we&#8217;ve never <em>required</em> employers to use it. E-VERIFY is optional! Naturally, the employers who are hiring (and exploiting!) large numbers of illegal immigrants aren&#8217;t about to <em>voluntarily</em> submit to a system specifically designed to prevent them from hiring (and exploiting!) those immigrants. We should make E-VERIFY mandatory. If illegal immigrants could not get jobs here, some of them would leave, and others would decide not to come here in the first place. E-VERIFY is not a panacea, but <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s40176-016-0053-3">it would help</a>, so we should implement it nationwide. I think the biggest tell that, for some people (I believe very few), this is all about being mean to brown people is that they never talk about E-VERIFY, nor about the Big Business interests that have prevented it from taking hold even amidst mass deportations.</p><p>In my view, birthright citizenship is clearly the law of the land. The 14th Amendment is pretty clear that anyone born here, living under our jurisdiction, is an American citizen. Tourists&#8217; babies probably aren&#8217;t, but the 14th Amendment was pretty sweeping on this point. (Why shouldn&#8217;t it be? We had practically open borders in 1868!) Donald Trump&#8217;s claim to have repealed birthright citizenship by mere executive order was an offense to the Constitution, and I hope the Supreme Court crams it back down his throat later this month. However, I don&#8217;t think birthright citizenship is a actually very wise policy, and I would support efforts to amend the Constitution to prevent the children of illegal immigrants from automatically receiving U.S. citizenship. (Eventually, maybe, but not before their first birthday.) Birthright citizenship is a powerful attractor, because it means an illegal immigrant can give his children the life he wants for them, even if he is later caught and deported. Then it creates horrific messes when the parents are caught and deported, but their babies have U.S. citizenship. Let&#8217;s not do it anymore. Lots of other countries don&#8217;t have birthright citizenship.</p><p>These are just a couple of ways the U.S. could gently encourage illegal immigrants to leave without arresting them, putting them in shackles, and dragging them onto a plane. There are others.</p><p>It seems we have exhausted the supply of foreign-born persons in the United States whom we <em>can&#8217;t </em>deport. That still leaves lots of deportable people! However, even if we miraculously managed to deport all of them, we&#8217;d still have a foreign-born population well in excess of 10%.</p><p>That means we must also start refusing to allow more immigrants in.</p><h3><em>The Slow Way: Not Letting People In</em></h3><p>This is simple: when people ask to come to the United States, tell them, &#8220;Not yet. We&#8217;re full up right now.&#8221;</p><p>This is <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/12/19/americans-lean-toward-keeping-legal-immigration-steady-see-high-skilled-workers-as-a-priority/">not particularly popular</a>. Nor is it particularly fair. The process was <em>already</em> slow and convoluted for the people legally waiting their turn in line, and suspending the line for perhaps a decade or two would make it worse:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KquL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0b19e9a-8255-42e4-b403-e612e6562a8b_2448x1584.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KquL!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0b19e9a-8255-42e4-b403-e612e6562a8b_2448x1584.jpeg 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Note that the final figures here include the wait for green-card holders to become naturalized citizens, but they&#8217;re all living permanently in the country 5-7 years before the infographic says. For example, in the last tan box, the &#8220;total time to immigrate and become a citizen&#8221; is indeed 11-16 years, but the time to get to America legally and start living the American life was only 4-11 years. Of course, this chart is from the Obama-McCain election in 2008! Things may have changed a bit since then!</figcaption></figure></div><p>Nevertheless, if we are committed to bringing the U.S. immigrant population down to fit our apparent capacity to assimilate them, without doing serious injustices to those illegal immigrants already here, we don&#8217;t have a choice. The spots that would have been taken be legal immigrants have already been taken by illegal immigrants we can&#8217;t morally remove. They have been robbed, in a sense, of their chance to come to America, but not by the United States government. (This is another reason why penalties for <em>il</em>legal immigrants should be stern.)</p><p>In fact, this has already been happening. The amount of <em>legal</em> immigration to the United States has <a href="https://www.everycrsreport.com/files/2024-11-04_R42866_45adab25e6609dc1a2884659162539e205019e77.pdf">already shrunk</a> (as a share of population) over the past quarter-century. Congress has a very hard time raising the legal visa caps when we&#8217;re flooded with illegals. The green-card lottery is already in such heavy demand that you can expect to wait approximately 70 years before winning it, aka never:</p><p>That means there isn&#8217;t a ton of slack available to cut in the legal immigration system. If it is correct that we don&#8217;t have the capacity to assimilate them all, then we have to reduce the total anyway, but it&#8217;s going to be difficult. We will be barring decent, sympathetic, hard-working people from coming to America, probably for a number of years. In many cases, we will be giving their spots to illegal immigrants who jumped the line.</p><p>Here&#8217;s a quick overview of the approximately 1.4 million people who <em>legally</em> immigrate to the United States each year, under normal<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-28" href="#footnote-28" target="_self">28</a> circumstances:</p><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/N8px4/1/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/bdc4104e-210c-45c2-b9b4-6ed6e9411349_1220x656.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/25c90b97-a469-4d26-a350-dd7eedaa7431_1220x752.png&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:376,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Legal Immigration to the U.S. by Admission Class, 2024&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;&quot;}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/N8px4/1/" width="730" height="376" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div><p>To bring America&#8217;s foreign-born population down to 10% within the next 10-20 years, this total needs to fall by something close to half, <em>in addition</em> to the aggressive enforcement recommended above. That&#8217;s not going to be easy.</p><h4><em>Refugees/Asylees</em></h4><p>I&#8217;ll start with the obvious: we cannot turn aside refugees and those seeking political asylum. Some people on the Right look at people fleeing war zones and seem to ask, &#8220;Pah, am I my brother&#8217;s keeper?&#8221; </p><p>Well, yes, you are. Our obligation to love of neighbor does not end at the border, and it does not end if we have real problems of our own. The right to migrate is at its apex for people fleeing lethal danger. The Trump Administration&#8217;s decision to effectively terminate the U.S. refugee program is, therefore, gravely immoral:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f474!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbde70f08-b3b8-4dfa-97a8-80c68f3fa2e0_1387x637.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f474!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbde70f08-b3b8-4dfa-97a8-80c68f3fa2e0_1387x637.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f474!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbde70f08-b3b8-4dfa-97a8-80c68f3fa2e0_1387x637.png 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f474!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbde70f08-b3b8-4dfa-97a8-80c68f3fa2e0_1387x637.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f474!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbde70f08-b3b8-4dfa-97a8-80c68f3fa2e0_1387x637.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f474!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbde70f08-b3b8-4dfa-97a8-80c68f3fa2e0_1387x637.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Source: <a href="https://www.rpc.state.gov/admissions-and-arrivals/">US Refugee Admissions Program (USRAP)</a> via <a href="https://cwsglobal.org/blog/daily-state-of-play-trumps-indefinite-refugee-ban-and-funding-halt/">Church World Service</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>This is not to say that asylum/refugee processing is <em>easy</em>. It&#8217;s a mess. No interview, no matter how thorough, can cure the fact that your birth certificate and criminal records about you blew up when your war-torn nation&#8217;s Ministry of Records was bombed to rubble by the rebels. Many legitimate refugees and asylum-seekers will <em>never</em> be able to show hard proof that they absolutely require refuge. Fraudsters and terrorists realize this, and so they present themselves at the border claiming that they need refuge&#8230; &#8220;But, alas,&#8221; they say! Their birth certificates and criminal records blew up when their war-torn nation&#8217;s Ministry of Records was bombed to rubble by the rebels! Our system has many layers built into it to prevent the fakers from getting away with it, but there&#8217;s simply no level of &#8220;vetting&#8221; that can perfectly discern between the genuine needy and the liars taking advantage of our charity.</p><p>Indeed, it has become <a href="https://www.americafirstpolicy.com/issues/expert-insight-examining-the-asylum-fraud-loophole">quite clear</a> that, under the Obama/Biden Administration&#8217;s (very lax) standards for paroling asylum-seekers into the United States with a work permit and a far-future court date, it became the norm for economic migrants to just make up crap so they could get in on an asylum ticket, at least for a few decades until their cases were heard. Refugees are vetted through the United Nations before they even get to our system, but they have the same problems we have, <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/asylum-sale-refugees-say-some-u-n-workers-demand-bribes-n988351">plus some more</a>.</p><p>Now, granting that we cannot turn asylum-seekers back to their home countries (because many of them really <em>do</em> need asylum), one obvious reform is that we should not immediately grant <em>every</em> person seeking asylum a pass into the U.S. mainland with a work permit. They should be detained while their case is processed and heard. If they are truly in need of asylum, three square meals a day in confinement beats the alternative. If they&#8217;re fraudsters, mandatory detention makes the option a lot less attractive. We should hire enough investigators and judges to ensure that asylum cases are completed in 3 to 6 months, so people fleeing catastrophe aren&#8217;t held in limbo indefinitely, but everyone should expect to spend some time in border detention when coming into America this way. This is actually the law already, but Presidents Obama and Biden did some shenanigans to short-circuit it, leaving President Trump in an awkward position (and leading Trump to come up with the Remain In Mexico program).</p><p>There also may be opportunities, in some cases, to redirect asylum-seekers and refugees to other countries. We owe them humanitarian aid and human decency. We do not owe them <em>specifically</em> American citizenship.</p><p>Nevertheless, on the whole, this category of legal immigration seems pretty close to intractable. We have to let ~200,000 refugees/asylees per year, and perhaps even more than that, if we want God&#8217;s continued blessings on these United States.</p><h4><em>Iraqi/Afghan Allies</em></h4><p>These immigrant visas are for Iraqis and Afghans who worked for the U.S. during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and their families, and who are now in danger of retaliation. They risked their lives for our troops, and now their lives are in danger. We owe them, period. I don&#8217;t know anyone who even questions this. I rather hope I never do! We can&#8217;t reduce these visas, although they will gradually fade away as the Iraq and Afghan wars fade into the past.</p><h4><em>Employment-Based Immigration</em></h4><p>These are immigrants who come over because of special talent and/or employer demand. In many respects, they are our &#8220;highest-value&#8221; immigrants, since they bring strong human capital and immediately contribute to growing our economy. However, they are also the immigrants who <em>need</em> to come here the least. We could axe this entire category without doing anyone an injustice. </p><p>Businesses would howl, but businesses notoriously abuse these categories to fluff their bottom lines and undercut American workers, so I wouldn&#8217;t pay much attention to them. In my field, computer science, you&#8217;re required to try to &#8220;hire American&#8221; before applying for lower-paid foreign talent, so there&#8217;s a whole cottage industry devoted to running <em><a href="https://www.newsweek.com/h1b-jobs-now-american-workers-green-cards-2041404">deliberately</a></em><a href="https://www.newsweek.com/h1b-jobs-now-american-workers-green-cards-2041404"> failed job searches</a> in America, by doing things like only posting the job in a small number of print newspapers and making the application process a mess. I am therefore unsympathetic.</p><p>We could certainly keep <em>some</em> employment-based migration, where the benefit is strongest, but you can reduce visas in this category with a clean conscience.</p><h4><em>The Green-Card Lottery</em></h4><p>Now called the &#8220;Diversity Lottery,&#8221; the purpose of the modern green-card lottery is to ensure greater diversity among our legal immigrants. Entry is restricted to countries that have sent low numbers of legal immigrants to the U.S. in the preceding five years.</p><p>Even if diversity ought to be an end in itself, no one would suffer an injustice from losing access to this lottery. I repeat: it takes the average entrant something like 70 years to win this lottery. Nobody&#8217;s counting on it. We could eliminate it without grave evil. </p><p>In fact, the current White House has done so! However, it did so illegally, without authorization from Congress, on the <a href="https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/News/visas-news/diversity-visa-issuance-updated-guidance.html">pretext</a> of performing a &#8220;security review&#8221; after the suspect in the Brown University and MIT school shootings <a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-suspends-green-card-lottery-program-that-let-brown-university-mit-shootings-suspect-into-u-s">turned out</a> to be a green-card lottery winner.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-29" href="#footnote-29" target="_self">29</a> The lottery will presumably return when the Democrats retake the White House in 2028 or 2032.</p><h4><em>Family Migration</em></h4><p>The largest category of legal immigration <em>by far</em> is family visas. As we saw above, in 2024, nearly two-thirds of all immigrants to the United States came in on a family connection.</p><p>This is good and praiseworthy. The family is the fundamental unit of society. In many ways, government only exists to support families. Families bring great benefits with them, too: they are a cohesive social network that can rely on one another in a strange country. They can help one another assimilate. They can support one another with child-rearing and build up the &#8220;little platoons&#8221; in a way that atomized individuals just can&#8217;t. We definitely want people in the U.S.A. to have their families with them!</p><p>However, we need to reduce legal immigration by half, and family migration is <em>more</em> than half of legal immigration. It is mathematically impossible to reach our goal without trimming family visas. So let&#8217;s take a look at them:</p><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/janZi/2/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/19d60e33-ce42-4dd6-9488-8d0164169cd1_1220x858.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/951501f9-b430-42bd-ad31-4ec8b756b4ac_1220x954.png&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:520,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Family-Based Legal Immigration to the U.S., 2024&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;&quot;}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/janZi/2/" width="730" height="520" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div><p>Kids <em>need</em> to be with their parents, and parents <em>need</em> to be with the kids who depend on them. Nobody needs anyone, just about, as much as children need their parents. We cannot morally keep U.S. citizens or permanent residents from reunification with their needy children.</p><p>It is not <em>quite</em> so critical for spouses to be together, but they are one another&#8217;s principal helpmate and (if things go as they should) eventual co-parent. To keep them apart <em>forever</em> would effectively divorce them. Therefore, reuniting spouses is, rightly, a high immigration priority, and this is a matter of justice. However, reunification need not be <em>as</em> swift as child reunification.</p><p>On the other hand, the remaining family-based immigration categories are very good, but they aren&#8217;t essential. We do not, in justice, owe it to new Americans to bring their entire families to America as well. My own immigrant great-great-grandmother sailed from Ireland and never saw any member of her family again. This was the norm at the time. It was a choice she and her family made.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-30" href="#footnote-30" target="_self">30</a> Parents are great, of course. My parents are among my best friends, and my greatest helps in life (outside my wife and kids). Yet their lives wouldn&#8217;t be ruined if we were separated the way my kids&#8217; lives would be. It would not be a sin to cap parental visas, delaying family reunifications for a number of extra years.</p><p>Likewise the other categories, only moreso.</p><h4><em>Summing Up</em></h4><p>If we eliminated all legal immigration except these &#8220;essentials&#8221;&#8212;dependent children, spouses, refugees, asylees, and Iraqi/Afghani allies&#8212;legal immigration would fall to about 55% of current levels, right about where it needs to be to make our goal in the next 10-20 years or so. There are other approaches we could take to reach our target, but each increase in one category would need to be met by a decrease in another category, or we would have to accept a longer wait before reaching stability.</p><p>I would like to reach stability as soon as possible. After all, once our immigrant population stabilizes at the target (10% of the U.S. population), we would be able to open up the doors again to more people (as long as we kept our <em>illegal</em> immigration under control at the same time). These people want to become American, and that&#8217;s a terrific decision! I want to let them, ASAP!</p><h2><em>VIII.</em></h2><p>Perhaps you are saying, &#8220;Doing this sounds very hard. What if, instead, we just <em>didn&#8217;t</em> do <em>any</em> of these things? How about we return to the <em>status quo ante </em>Trump instead?&#8221; As far as I am able to tell, this is indeed the unofficial preferred policy of Pope Leo and the U.S. Catholic bishops. It is also, of course, the official policy of the Democratic Party, more or less. It allows us to be nice to everyone, and to feel good about ourselves doing it.</p><p>Unfortunately, history will not allow us to do that. If we return to the laws and policies that prevailed before Trump, the foreign-born population will resume its long rise, just as it did in the years leading up to Trump, and just as it did (sharply) during the Biden interregnum. The number is already at 15%, the highest level in American history. With every additional click of that winch, America&#8217;s assimilation capacity will come under greater strain. Ethnic and racial tensions will rise. More American communities will transform. More American natives will feel besieged in their homeland by foreign cultures and foreign norms. More Americans will blame immigrants for their job losses; some non-trivial number of them will be correct.</p><p>We were warned in 2007 that a backlash was building, and did nothing. In 2016, we saw the first form of that backlash, which was harsher than anyone in 2007 could have imagined. The backlash didn&#8217;t care so much about propriety as long as its problems were addressed. In 2025, as pressure continued to build, we saw the backlash evolve into a new and more brutal form, which was harsher than most people in 2016 imagined. The backlash now casually commits serious injustices against hundreds or thousands of people (alongside legitimate immigration enforcement), and seems to revel in the suffering it causes.</p><p>Do you even care to speculate what form the backlash takes if the American foreign-born population reaches 20%? 25%? 30%? If the wheels start to come off like they did in Oxford, or, indeed, in <a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/britains-rape-gangs-problem-not-a-surprise/">Rotherham</a>? I don&#8217;t want to see that backlask, but you know who <em>really</em> doesn&#8217;t to see it? Immigrants!</p><p>People who want justice for immigrants have to get serious about showing how their proposals can square with a stable immigrant population, one that America&#8217;s existing institutions can assimilate. Pleading that nearly every would-be immigrant should be allowed to stay (&#8220;because what harm are they doing? they&#8217;re good people!&#8221;) and that every ICE arrest is a &#8220;kidnapping,&#8221; without addressing those foundational questions, only deepens the problem. We are still in a position where it is probably possible to bring America&#8217;s immigrant population down to historical levels without doing grave injustice to anyone. In a few more years, we won&#8217;t be! Do you think voters, by that point, are going to believe we have the &#8220;luxury&#8221; of sorting out right from wrong before adopting sweeping anti-immigrant policies? </p><p>I am deeply impressed by the moral conscience many of my friends have shown in the wake of serious injustices over the past twelve months. They have forced me to look squarely at cases I would have preferred not to see. They have made me always remember the human beings behind all these numbers. Their collective resistance to deportations, at least some of which were unjust, eventually forced the White House to back down on deportations, especially the unjust deportations. However, I am deeply unimpressed by their incuriosity about the bigger picture, by their unwillingness to articulate what a permanent solution might look like, and by their eagerness to <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/ice-in-the-twin-cities-an-faq">fall for every lie</a> perpetrated by a rage-bait radical. That won&#8217;t help immigrants, and it won&#8217;t help America. It <em>will</em> fuel the <em>next, </em>even worse, Trump.</p><p>I have, therefore, in a critical but sympathetic spirit, attempted to sketch one version of a permanent solution: aggressive but just deportation campaigns, combined with sharp cuts to legal immigration, until our immigrant population once again stabilizes at a level that the American people have, historically, considered acceptable. (I would give similar advice to European leaders, who face many of the same problems with much of the same popular backlash.) </p><p>If you have another idea for bringing America&#8217;s immigration capacity into line with America&#8217;s immigration burden, add it to the public conversation. Perhaps you have a brilliant idea for <em>raising</em> America&#8217;s capacity for assimilating immigrants to something more like Canada&#8217;s, and you know how to sell it to skeptical voters! Fantastic!</p><p>That is the conversation we should be having, instead of the slogans we&#8217;ve been slinging for the last twenty years.</p><p>We can do it.</p><p></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>De Civitate</em> is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p><em>DE CIV NEXT VOYAGE: This took </em>much<em> longer to write than I planned or hoped. It was supposed to be out by May 19, but I kept realizing that moves I thought were obvious actually needed to be explained. So I am behind on my publishing, and I apologize for that, but I hope this was worth the wait. I stuck with it specifically because I promised a break from my recent Catholicposting.</em></p><p><em>Next up will be some Catholicposting, as I post some translations in order to finish an elaborate dunk on the hapless Dilan Esper. Then, we&#8217;ll see, but I am well overdue for a Worthy Reads post and have about 30 articles collected that I think you should read. (I&#8217;ll curate that down to 5-8 as usual.)</em></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/how-many-immigrants-is-too-many?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading <em>De Civitate</em>! This post is public, so please share it if you liked it.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/how-many-immigrants-is-too-many?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/how-many-immigrants-is-too-many?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>It seems this was because of 1857&#8217;s <em>Dred Scott</em> decision, which purported to strike down the Missouri Compromise, and seemed to hint at a constitutional right to own slaves <em>anywhere</em> in the Union. The Supreme Court intended the decision to &#8220;settle&#8221; the slavery question, but, instead, it catapulted slavery to the top of the political agenda and ripped the nation apart. The Supreme Court&#8217;s attempts to &#8220;settle&#8221; questions outside its purview <a href="https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/505/833/">tend to have that effect</a>.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The about-to-become-dominant Republican Party managed to contain America&#8217;s nativist element during the 1860s, since the Union relied on immigrant conscripts to win the Civil War, but, after the end of Reconstruction, nativists didn&#8217;t just return, but won a long string of major legislative victories:</p><ul><li><p>The Page Act of 1875 banned Asian prostitutes from immigrating, and was enforced, effectively, as a ban on Asian women. </p></li><li><p>That same year, President Grant gave a major speech against allowing public money to flow to &#8220;sectarian&#8221; (a dog whistle for &#8220;Catholic&#8221;) schools, leading to a close-fought battle over an amendment to the Constitution to that effect. The federal effort failed, but most states passed &#8220;Blaine Amendments,&#8221; which were finally struck down by the Supreme Court in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espinoza_v._Montana_Department_of_Revenue">June 2020</a> as violating the First Amendment.</p></li><li><p>The Immigration Act of 1882 federalized immigration restrictions (which had previously been <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/1123006">handled at the state level</a>; h/t <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/ice-in-the-twin-cities-an-faq/comment/193835379">Tarb</a>) and imposed taxes and exclusion powers to discourage immigration. </p></li><li><p>That same year, the Chinese Exclusion Act effectively banned all Chinese. (They already were barred from citizenship.) </p></li><li><p>The Scott Act of 1888 forbade Chinese who left the U.S. from returning, stranding thousands of Chinese laborers who were overseas at the time the law went into force.</p></li><li><p>The Immigration Act of 1891 strengthened the executive branch&#8217;s power to exclude and deport inadmissible immigrants without judicial review (a situation that persists today) and led to the opening of Ellis Island as an inspection and holding area for incoming immigrants under the Act&#8217;s more stringent inspection procedures.</p></li><li><p>The Geary Act of 1892 required legal Chinese residents to apply for, and carry at all times, immigration papers, on pain of deportation.</p></li><li><p>Formal bans on Japanese immigration were headed off in 1907 only because the Japanese Empire struck an <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentlemen%27s_Agreement_of_1907">informal agreement</a> with President Teddy Roosevelt to&#8230; ban Japanese immigration.</p></li><li><p>In addition to deepening the bans on Asian immigration, the Immigration Act of 1917 imposed literacy tests on incoming immigrants.</p></li><li><p>The Emergency Quota Act of 1921 imposed hard numerical limits on the number of immigrants the United States would accept, with quotas for each nation of origin.</p></li></ul><p>This only describes the nativists&#8217; legislative victories. Their cultural effect was much broader. Consider, for example, the work of the anti-Catholic American Protective Association, a secret society which became a serious political force in the early 1890s:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bO7Y!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6fcce18-7f91-4f1f-888a-bedce1c46eec_1280x947.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bO7Y!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6fcce18-7f91-4f1f-888a-bedce1c46eec_1280x947.jpeg 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bO7Y!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6fcce18-7f91-4f1f-888a-bedce1c46eec_1280x947.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bO7Y!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6fcce18-7f91-4f1f-888a-bedce1c46eec_1280x947.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bO7Y!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6fcce18-7f91-4f1f-888a-bedce1c46eec_1280x947.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Which still seems mild compared to the nasty stuff people at this time published about the Chinese:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xOQF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa3d709e-f8b2-4287-8529-cfea7b96297f_431x653.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xOQF!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa3d709e-f8b2-4287-8529-cfea7b96297f_431x653.jpeg 424w, 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The Second Ku Klux Klan was keen on hating Blacks, but kept up a brisk side business in hating Catholics, Asians, and foreigners generally speaking.</p><p>As a child of the 1990s, all of this was perfectly unimaginable to me in 2005.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I&#8217;m not <em>rejecting</em> that claim, either. For our purposes today, it doesn&#8217;t matter if one culture is better than another, so we can avoid the question.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>As home of a major internationally-renowned university, Oxford is quite a melting pot, with plenty of immigrants from the U.S. (2% of total population), Poland (1.5%), and China (1.5%). Statistically speaking, it&#8217;s unlikely that Oxford&#8217;s <em>hijab</em> problem is coming from <em>them</em>&#8230; although they will bring their own, different cultural frictions to Oxford. </p><p>Fortunately, as the home of a major university, Oxford also has a lot of social infrastructure in place to assimilate high levels of immigration, so Oxford can likely handle a lot more immigration than, say, Topeka. Unfortunately, if the <em>hijab</em> story is representative, then <em>even Oxford</em>, with all that social infrastructure, is struggling to assimilate its large immigrant population.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>It&#8217;s possible they were Ethiopian. I am awful at identifying ethnicity. Not, like, the way people say at parties, &#8220;Oh, I&#8217;m bad at names,&#8221; but the way where I&#8217;ve taken calibrated tests that reliably show that my facial recognition is <em>far </em>below average. When I say I&#8217;m &#8220;mostly colorblind to race,&#8221; I mean it literally. However, I was later given to understand that the African-Americans in the park that night were mostly Somalian, not Ethiopian, so I&#8217;m assuming these girls were, too.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>It is difficult to dig up reliable information from seven-year-old local crime stories, what with link rot and the local media&#8217;s <em>omerta</em> about the ethnicity of the perpetrators. However, I have worked out to my satisfaction, mostly from <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fox9kmsp/posts/pfbid0qs1bCvuTjEruFn7y2S8CbaW5Qx84xRPJxBqdEjdsVh169SzYixxczVbv5YMterJFl?comment_id=10156792597094138">old</a> Facebook <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fox9kmsp/posts/pfbid0qs1bCvuTjEruFn7y2S8CbaW5Qx84xRPJxBqdEjdsVh169SzYixxczVbv5YMterJFl">comments</a>, that the 2018 incident was caused by Somalis. The 2017 incident was <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fox9kmsp/posts/10155362510784138?comment_id=10155362653924138">evidently caused</a> by black-skinned people (according to a video of the fighting that is no longer available), but I was not able to ascertain with any confidence whether they were Somalis (a recent immigrant group) or plain old assimilated American Black people (thus a case of homegrown crime).</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>By the way, no one is fooled by our institutions&#8217; refusal to admit this. The comments after an incident are always just a joke now. The first comment is usually, &#8220;No description in the article, so it&#8217;s the usual perps?&#8221; and the second comment is &#8220;Yes,&#8221; followed by the third comment, &#8220;Those damn Scandinavian teens, always causing so much chaos and violence!&#8221; Indeed, the code of silence only makes people (including me) suspicious that they&#8217;re suppressing <em>other</em> immigrant issues we <em>aren&#8217;t</em> hearing about. This is not an ill-founded suspicion, given the U.K.&#8217;s long cover-up of the <a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/britains-rape-gangs-problem-not-a-surprise/">Rotherham Pakistani Rape Gangs</a>. The desperate institutional attempt to avoid giving ammunition to racists, even at the cost of their credibility, is only making readers more racist. At least the racists will tell them what&#8217;s going on!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>A narrow exception: American Indians who still live on the reservations are American citizens, but aren&#8217;t immigrants, and even American Indians who have left the reservations are only &#8220;immigrating&#8221; to mainstream America in a qualified sense.</p><p>Also, Black Americans by and large trace their ancestry to involuntary immigrants, slaves kidnapped or sold from their homelands. That is, technically, a form of immigration, but it&#8217;s not exactly Emma Lazarus.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The Catholic Church has a lot of practice doing moral reasoning, and the <a href="https://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/human-life-and-dignity/immigration/catholic-teaching-on-immigration-and-the-movement-of-peoples">U.S. Bishops summarize</a> Catholic teaching on immigration in three broad principles:</p><ol><li><p><strong>People have the right to migrate to sustain their lives and the lives of their families: &#8220;</strong>When a person cannot achieve a meaningful life in his or her own land, that person has the right to move.&#8221;</p></li><li><p><strong>A country has the right to regulate its borders and to control immigration: &#8220;</strong>No country has the duty to receive so many immigrants that its social and economic life are jeopardized.&#8221;</p></li><li><p><strong>A country must regulate its borders with justice and mercy: &#8220;</strong>A nation may not simply decide that it wants to provide for its own people and no others. A sincere commitment to the needs of all must prevail.&#8221;</p></li></ol><p>This seems about right. Many people disagree about how to balance these principles under changing circumstances, but I <em>think</em> the only people who reject these principles outright are Internet weirdos like Objectivists, commies, and Hobbesians.</p><p>Heck, even your average racist will agree that people of other races have a right to migrate to protect their families! He&#8217;ll only insist that they don&#8217;t have a right to migrate <em>here</em>, because we&#8217;re currently beyond our capacity to assimilate people who have different colored skin.</p><p>Of course, the racist&#8217;s position that skin color matters is both silly and evil, but my point is that <em>even he</em> accepts these general principles.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>My tongue-in-cheek answer to this is that no one has been <em>fully</em> assimilated into American society (and therefore uses up some fraction of our assimilation capacity) until they identify as White. All ethnic minorities start as the Other and end up identifying as White. It happened with the Irish, the Germans, the Italians, and the Poles. It is happening today with Hispanics, who increasingly identify as White in polling. It will happen someday with Asians. The &#8220;tipping point&#8221; when America becomes a &#8220;majority-minority&#8221; nation (desired by progressives, feared by racists), will be continually pushed back, and likely will never arrive, because our minorities will continue to integrate into the majority.</p><p>An arguable exception to this is Black Americans, who &#8220;immigrated&#8221; to America on slave ships in chains, spent centuries in slavery, and then spent the following century being actively rebuffed from assimilating into mainstream American society by racist policies promulgated by the people who were still mad their slaves had been taken away. Black Americans now have a very strong identity that must nevertheless be called &#8220;American,&#8221; because it isn&#8217;t from anywhere else.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Nor, as far as I can tell, anywhere else in the West.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Here&#8217;s one adjustment I think is reasonable. In fact, it&#8217;s <em>so</em> reasonable, I almost made it in the main body of the article before opting for simplicity:</p><p>European nations are relatively small and highly interconnected, with free movement and employment throughout most of the continent. Much of Germany&#8217;s &#8220;foreign-born&#8221; population comes from their EU neighbors, who already share much of the culture, often share a language, already bank in the local currency, have a similar climate, and already live under many of the same laws. Moving from, say, Italy to Germany is not as simple as moving from New York to Florida, but it is much simpler for both the immigrants and the hosts than moving from Somalia to Minnesota. It&#8217;s more like moving between states than immigrating to <em><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPoqBCvyG9k">El Norte</a></em>.</p><p>If we adjust for this (imperfectly) by excluding immigration within Europe&#8217;s free movement zone (or between the U.S. and Canada), we find:</p><ul><li><p><strong>Canada: </strong>20% were born outside the U.S. or Canada</p></li><li><p><strong>The U.S.:</strong> 15% were born outside the U.S. or Canada (down from 16% at the start of the second Trump Administration)</p></li><li><p><strong>Germany</strong>: 14% were born outside the EU/EEA/UK</p></li><li><p><strong>The U.K.</strong>: 10% were born outside the EU/UK</p></li><li><p><strong>Italy</strong>: 9% were born outside outside the EU</p></li><li><p><strong>France</strong>: 8% were born outside outside the EU/EEA/UK</p></li><li><p><strong>Japan</strong>: 3% were born outside Japan (same as before) </p></li></ul><p>(I measure EU/EEA/UK in some cases and EU only in other cases because different EU countries report different figures, so apples-to-apples comparison was not always possible).</p><p>By this count (imperfect, but all counts are imperfect), the U.S. already bears a heavier assimilation burden than all our European peers. Indeed, several very wealthy, very free European nations started seeing serious immigration-related strain in their political system even with immigrant populations still in the single digits! This perspective implies that the U.S. is <em>better</em> at receiving and assimilating immigrants compared to many of its peers&#8212;in some cases, <em>substantially</em> better! Given our history, that shouldn&#8217;t be surprising.</p><p>Meanwhile, I&#8217;d be remiss if I didn&#8217;t note that Lyman Stone <a href="https://medium.com/migration-issues/the-history-of-american-immigration-9685d3550acf">argues</a> that it is better to measure net inflows (the <em>rate</em> of incoming immigration) rather than current foreign-born population (the <em>cumulative total</em> of immigrants), since the latter is mostly priced-in immigration from decades ago and is much slower to respond to policy changes. I broadly recommend <a href="https://medium.com/migration-issues/the-history-of-american-immigration-9685d3550acf">his article</a>, which agrees with my views in some ways and disagrees with them in others, but is always defensible. Unfortunately, all the charts in Lyman&#8217;s article are gone, and my query to him on Twitter has gone unanswered. (He may have muted me years ago.) Link rot is a scourge.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-13" href="#footnote-anchor-13" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">13</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I am using the European definition of &#8220;far-right&#8221; here, which, as far as I can tell, includes Mitt Romney.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-14" href="#footnote-anchor-14" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">14</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>There are <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_sovereign_states_by_immigrant_and_emigrant_population&amp;oldid=1353940510">plenty of countries</a> (around 50) with foreign-born populations above 25%, some as high as 72% (!!), but these heavy-immigration countries tend to fall into a few categories:</p><ul><li><p>Tiny countries, total population under 100,000, often sustained by tourism, like Aruba or Iceland.</p></li><li><p>Tiny countries, total population under 500,000, that are functionally a satellite of one or more much larger countries, like Vatican City (an enclave within Italy), Andorra (a tiny speck landlocked between France and Spain)</p></li><li><p>Autocratic Arab petrostates that import vast quantities of migrant/slave labor and keep them carefully repressed, like Saudi Arabia. (The tell is their very low proportion of <em>female</em> immigrants.) Turns out you can have a very high capacity for immigrants in a police state! </p></li><li><p>Summer homes / tourist sites / tax shelters for the super-rich, like Monaco</p></li><li><p>Some combination of the above, like the United Arab Emirates (the country that has Dubai), which is <em>both</em> a destination for the mega-rich <em>and</em> an autocratic slave-labor petrostate!</p></li></ul><p>So there is no iron law that <em>every</em> country <em>must</em> experience serious immigration / assimilation strain when their foreign-born population slides into the 10-20% zone. Many manifestly don&#8217;t! However, large, free countries like those in the G7 seem to struggle.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-15" href="#footnote-anchor-15" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">15</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Worse, there was no end in sight! People in 1854 had no way of knowing that the foreign-born population would soon stabilize at around 13-15% in the 1860s. Indeed, if not for the Civil War and the nativist legislation that peppered the next seventy years, immigration levels might <em>not</em> have stabilized!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-16" href="#footnote-anchor-16" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">16</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>In fact, the G8 Bill was <em>so</em> toxic among the GOP base that, for a long while, it appeared to have ruined Sen. Marco Rubio&#8217;s aspirations to higher office.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-17" href="#footnote-anchor-17" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">17</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Even at the peak of his crackdown, Donald Trump&#8217;s White House was <a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-ice-deportation-data-b2958351.html">never on pace</a> to remove more than maybe a third of our <a href="https://www.fairus.org/issue/how-many-illegal-aliens-are-united-states-2025-update">~20-million-strong</a> illegal alien population, even counting <a href="https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dhs-touts-millions-illegal-immigrant-departures-border-crossings-drop-94-under-trump">self-deportations</a>.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-18" href="#footnote-anchor-18" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">18</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>To be fair, many voters took him seriously, but not literally, and then were very disappointed when it turned out he meant this one literally. (&#8220;Seriously, but not literally&#8221; was always a poor excuse.)</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-19" href="#footnote-anchor-19" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">19</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I am thinking particularly of the thoroughly scurrilous story that <a href="https://nypost.com/2026/01/13/business/target-faces-protests-after-ice-detains-us-citizen-employees-at-minnesota-store/">widely circulated</a> about how two supposedly perfectly innocent U.S. citizens were tackled and arrested by ICE for no reason other than their skin color. There were <a href="https://spokesman-recorder.com/2026/02/12/richfield-target-protest-ice-arrests/">weeks of protests</a> at Target over an almost totally fictional story. It looks like nobody online has ever thoroughly debunked that story. I saved my notes, but I guess the moment has passed now.</p><p>However, there was also that story about the woman whose family was supposedly tear-gassed for no reason while they were trying to get home from a basketball game (<a href="https://alphanews.org/bombshell-mom-of-baby-at-riot-previously-indicted-on-1st-degree-murder-in-2019-killing/">false</a>), the story about that elderly woman who was taken into custody for six hours just for exercising her right to protest (<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/181463406/q-what-about-sue-tincher-the-55-year-old-us-citizen-held-for-hours-just-for-asking-questions">false</a>), and the story about that guy named Mubashir who was supposedly detained &#8220;for no reason at all&#8221; for several hours even though he was a citizen (whom Mayor Jacob Frey trotted out as &#8220;proof&#8221; that ICE was violating constitutional rights of citizens) (<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/181463406/q-what-about-mubashir-the-anonymous-somali-american-citizen-tackled-by-ice-for-no-reason-and-detained-while-insisting-he-was-a-citizen">false</a>).</p><p>All complete bullcrap. Winter in the Twin Cities was a season of <a href="https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8rgszu">truthiness</a>. This is not surprising, since truthiness has always preyed on self-righteousness.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-20" href="#footnote-anchor-20" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">20</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Buchanan won almost 3 million votes in the 1992 Republican primaries, which was a respectable showing among the 12 million voters who cast votes in those primaries&#8230; but 104.4 million Americans voted in the general election that fall.</p><p>Now, credit where it&#8217;s due: the best Buchanan result I&#8217;m aware of is a <a href="https://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1996/polls/cnn.usa.gallup/022396.shtml#clinton.buchanan">1996 CNN poll</a> where the question was, if Buchanan won the Republican nomination, would you be more likely to vote for Clinton or Buchanan? Buchanan got around 37% of the vote in that poll.</p><p>&#8230;which put him 10 points behind Bob Dole, notoriously considered one of the most lackluster campaigners in modern history, and who lost to Clinton by nearly 10 points anyway.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-21" href="#footnote-anchor-21" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">21</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Temporary Protected Status, in particular, has turned out to be something of a scam. TPS was created in 1990 in response to the troubling problem of people being sent home to obviously deadly situations, like recent earthquakes or major wars. A TPS visa allows someone from a country in crisis to live and work in the United States temporarily, until the acute crisis has passed and it&#8217;s reasonably safe to go home. For example, we granted TPS to Kuwaitis for one year after Iraq invaded and conquered Kuwait. (In the meantime, we liberated Kuwait.) Nice and clean.</p><p>However, soon enough, the pro-immigration establishment began abusing TPS, and not subtly. El Salvador had two disastrous earthquakes in early 2001, and El Salvadoreans received TPS. Twenty-five years later, <em>they still have it. </em>Somalia received TPS in 1991 due to the outbreak of the vicious Somali Civil War. It was never revoked (although Donald Trump started trying to revoke it in 2025, more than 30 years after it was established). Somalia has had TPS so long that the civil war currently going on in Somalia isn&#8217;t even the same civil war as the one that led them to get TPS in the first place! They had nearly a decade of relative stability in the middle! Likewise, Honduras got TPS in 1998 due to Hurricane Mitch. It was not terminated until more than 20 years later, by the Trump Administration, to howls of outrage about Trump&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="https://partnershipfornewamericans.org/appellate-court-ruling-terminating-tps-for-black-and-latinx-immigrants-is-a-concession-to-a-racist-agenda/">cruelty</a>.&#8221;</p><p>TPS is for acute crisis. It is true that many people&#8217;s home countries suck. as furious as people got at then-President Trump for calling them &#8220;<a href="https://www.factcheck.org/2025/12/trump-confirms-his-disparaging-remark-about-shithole-countries-at-immigration-meeting/">shithole countries</a>,&#8221; a great deal of pro-immigration rhetoric is explicitly motivated by the recognition that lots of countries around the world are, well, shitholes. However, the bare fact that one&#8217;s home country sucks does not give one a human right to live permanently in the United States. TPS status was always clearly communicated to all concerned as temporary, the crises have in most cases long since passed or settled down, and the U.S. has fulfilled its commitment in both law and justice. </p><p>As we will soon see, I think TPS cases where recipients have been in the U.S. for decades present serious moral complications, but there&#8217;s an obvious answer to that: Congress should put a hard 7-year cap on TPS visas, so we never find ourselves in that situation again. If &#8220;Temporary&#8221; Protected Status ever needs to continue beyond seven years for any specific group, then we should be able to pass legislation explicitly converting that group to refugees, which would be a more honest accounting.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-22" href="#footnote-anchor-22" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">22</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>See Table 12 in &#8220;<a href="https://irregularmigration.eu/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/MIRREM-Kierans-and-Vargas-Silva-2024-Irregular-Migrant-Population-in-Europe-v1.pdf">Measuring Irregular Migration</a>,&#8221; a 2024 working paper by MIrreM.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-23" href="#footnote-anchor-23" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">23</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Note that any immigration detention process necessarily involves either the detention of small children, or separating them from their parents and putting them into foster care. There was a <em>deafening</em> hue and cry over the famous photograph of 5-year-old Liam Ramos (the <a href="https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/21/ice-detains-5year-old-minnesota-boy-lawyer-says-agents-used-him-as-bait">blue bunny hat boy</a>) being detained (alongside his father), with people protesting, &#8220;Why are they detaining a <em>child?!</em> A five-year-old isn&#8217;t a threat to anyone! This is cruel for cruelty&#8217;s sake!&#8221;</p><p>This was tendentious and manipulative. His father was being detained. His mother, also an unauthorized immigrant, refused to take custody of Liam (because she&#8212;probably correctly&#8212;feared that she, too, would be detained). The government detained Liam because they couldn&#8217;t leave Liam on the street in a Minnesota winter, and everyone knows full well the same chorus of angry voices would have raged at an even higher volume if they had. The real complaint here was that Liam&#8217;s father was being detained at all. The boy was just a prop.</p><p>However, it was appropriate for Liam&#8217;s father to be detained. He was an unauthorized immigrant here on an asylum claim, subject by (prudent) statute to <a href="https://www.justice.gov/eoir/file/1154747/dl?inline=">mandatory</a> detention. (This body of statutes is <a href="https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/LSB11438">contested</a>.) His asylum claim (like many asylum claims made during the period when claiming asylum got you a free ticket into the U.S. interior) appears to have been quite thin. It was <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/19/us/liam-conejo-ramos-family-asylum">denied</a> in March, and the entire family was ordered deported to their homes in Ecuador. They are appealing. In the meantime, a <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/31/us/liam-ramos-judge-order">bizarrely unreasoned order</a> given by Judge Fred Biery in January prohibits their detention, despite the statute.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-24" href="#footnote-anchor-24" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">24</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>People who say &#8220;Abolish ICE!&#8221; are usually quick to point out that ICE did not exist prior to 2003. This is true&#8230; but not in the way most of these people think. </p><p>ICE (Immigration &amp; Customs Enforcement) was one of the products of the reorganization of INS (the Immigration &amp; Naturalization Service). After the revelation that many of the 9/11 hijackers were in the United States on valid visas, and that INS had missed some red flags, President Bush and Congress came to believe that INS was too big and unwieldy. INS handled border patrol, interior immigration raids, <em>and</em> administration of all immigration visas and paperwork.</p><p>So Congress split INS into three agencies: </p><ul><li><p>Customs &amp; Border Patrol (CBP), which handled the border;</p></li><li><p>U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), which handles paperwork for <em>legal</em> immigrants; and</p></li><li><p>Immigration &amp; Customs Enforcement (ICE), which took on all of the INS&#8217;s old duties investigating and deporting immigrants from the interior of the United States.</p></li></ul><p>All three were then reassigned from the Department of Justice to the new Department of Homeland Security.</p><p>So, yes, technically, ICE was created in 2003&#8230; but that was just a federal re-org. The federal government has performed all ICE&#8217;s <em>functions</em>, under one agency or another, since the late 19th century. </p><p>If, by, &#8220;Abolish ICE!&#8221; all you mean is to change the name and do another re-org, that&#8217;s fine. I can get down with that.</p><p>However, if, by, &#8220;Abolish ICE!&#8221; you mean, &#8220;Stop having a federal immigration police force,&#8221; you are making a truly radical proposal incompatible with regulated borders and restricted immigration. That&#8217;s fine. I disagree, but it&#8217;s a defensible position. I simply ask that you own it.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-25" href="#footnote-anchor-25" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">25</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8230;except, perhaps, the notional &#8220;wrong&#8221; of trying to avoid having this injustice inflicted upon her!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-26" href="#footnote-anchor-26" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">26</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Before you cast your stones at the nativists, remember that the nativist right <em>did</em> make a deal in the 1980s to immediately grant legal status to a large number of illegal immigrants in exchange for improved border controls and assurances that they would never be asked to pass another amnesty. The amnesty went through just fine, but, when it came time to implement the border controls, suddenly there were all sorts of obstacles. Immigrant populations continued to rise, and, not twenty years later, the nativist right was asked to pass another amnesty! </p><p>They&#8217;ve been burned. I understand where they&#8217;re coming from, even though I think their decision to use an ongoing injustice as a bargaining chip compounds the injustice, and makes them especially culpable for it. Trust is a more important currency in politics than most of today&#8217;s politicians seem to realize. Once spent, your ability to make deals falls off a cliff.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-27" href="#footnote-anchor-27" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">27</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Current asylum law does not actually allow this. Some people have come up with convoluted legal explanations for why it secretly does allow this, and have used these wholly-imaginary loopholes to grant admission to huge number of otherwise-inadmissible migrants. These people are vandalizing the law against the will of Congress and the American people, and ought to be held to account. However, perhaps the law <em>should,</em> under some circumstances, allow what these vandals have tried to force it to allow.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-28" href="#footnote-anchor-28" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">28</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>i.e. not during covid and not during the Second Trump Administration. </p><p>To be sure, I would supplement with figures from the Second Trump Administration here if I could, but those figures have not yet been published. Government statistics usually lag reality by several years, and immigration stats are no exception.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-29" href="#footnote-anchor-29" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">29</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>As pretexts go, that&#8217;s a pretty good one! It&#8217;s still a pretext. You can&#8217;t repeal a program enacted by Congress without Congress.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-30" href="#footnote-anchor-30" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">30</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Actually, they made the choice for Kate&#8217;s sister, but she died after they bought the ticket. Kate had expected to wave goodbye to her sister from their home in County Mayo, but instead suddenly found herself exiled from her homeland, on a ship bound for a strange country, with little more than the clothes on her back.</p><p>Life was <em>hard</em> in the past! They suffered it all, though, for our sakes.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Roundup: Translations of Some (Church) Documents]]></title><description><![CDATA[Every translation I've posted online, with accompanying commentary.]]></description><link>https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/roundup-translations-of-some-church</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/roundup-translations-of-some-church</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[James J. Heaney]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2026 06:27:04 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L4sj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd3730237-170b-421e-8c21-f41ea9442243_471x640.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L4sj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd3730237-170b-421e-8c21-f41ea9442243_471x640.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L4sj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd3730237-170b-421e-8c21-f41ea9442243_471x640.png 424w, 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If everyone did this, then everything would already be translated. </p><p>Here are all my translations (plus the one that isn&#8217;t a translation).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p><ul><li><p><strong>#1: </strong>&#8220;<a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2015/01/11/translations-of-some-church-documents-1/">Onanism in Marriage</a>&#8221; &#8212; Some recent (1853 &amp; 1916) rulings of the Holy Office in Rome <em>(11 January 2015)</em></p></li><li><p><strong>#2: </strong>&#8220;<a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2019/06/18/some-church-documents-2-1975-nullity-case-involving-a-transsexual/">1975 Nullity Case Involving a &#8220;Transsexual&#8221;</a>&#8221; &#8212; Not actually a translation, just a document I had a hard time finding, but I didn&#8217;t know what this series was about yet <em>(18 June 2019)</em></p></li><li><p><strong>#3: </strong>&#8220;<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/theologiae-moralis-iii-de-usu-conjugii">Theologiae Moralis III: De Usu Conjugii</a>&#8221; &#8212; Bishop Kenrick explains pre-Conciliar sexual teaching. <em>(15 August 2022)</em></p></li><li><p><strong>#4: </strong>&#8220;<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/saepe-sanctam-ecclesiam-1296">Saepe Sanctam Ecclesiam (1296)</a>&#8221; &#8212; Boniface VIII condemns a sect that may have even existed <em>(11 September 2023)</em></p></li><li><p><strong>#5: &#8220;</strong><a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/pope-vigiliuss-constitution-on-the">Pope Vigilius&#8217;s Constitution on the Three Chapters</a>&#8221; &#8212; Come for the dull-as-dust translation, stay for the tale of a <em>wild</em> ecumenical council (<em>25 March 2025</em>)</p></li><li><p><strong>#6: </strong>&#8220;<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/translations-the-end-of-the-council">The End of the Council of Constance and </a><em><a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/translations-the-end-of-the-council">Moyses Vir Dei</a></em>&#8221; &#8212; The <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/the-council-of-constance-considered">companion article</a> is nuts, though (<em>2 October 2025</em>)</p></li><li><p><strong>#7: </strong>&#8220;Was Pope Innocent III Fine With Mifeprex?&#8221; &#8212; Innocent III&#8217;s letter to the Carthusians on abortion, Sixtus V&#8217;s law heavily penalizing early abortion and contraception, and Gregory XIV&#8217;s law repealing some key parts of Sixtus&#8217;s law <em>(June 2026)</em></p></li></ul><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>They&#8217;re all Catholic documents so far, because I am gradually coming to terms with the fact that, despite my best efforts to do law and politics instead, I appear to have become another Catholic blogger. However, I reserve the right to translate other, non-Catholic, untranslated Latin documents I come across!</p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[In The Grim Darkness of the Far Future, Are There Only Mormons?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Depends on retention!]]></description><link>https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/in-the-grim-darkness-of-the-far-future</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/in-the-grim-darkness-of-the-far-future</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[James J. Heaney]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2026 19:22:51 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X_TT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F900e678f-52c9-4cad-ab23-d33ac3aae0d0_1761x881.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eleven years ago, on my birthday, FiveThirtyEight published one of my favorite FiveThirtyEight articles ever: Leah Libresco&#8217;s<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> &#8220;<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20171126070946/https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/evangelical-protestants-are-the-biggest-winners-when-people-change-faiths/">Evangelical Protestants are the Biggest Winners When People Change Faiths</a>.&#8221;</p><p>Libresco&#8217;s premise was simple:</p><ol><li><p>Find out how many conversions and deconversions each religion has.</p></li><li><p>Find out how many babies each religion has.</p></li><li><p>Simulate the next hundred generations (~3000 years) of American religion based on just those two numbers.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p></li><li><p>Report the results:</p></li></ol><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/XVqWQ/1/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/b029e382-d14b-499e-a1d2-fbf07036352b_1220x1328.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ecb899cc-ff0d-4a17-beea-7690fcefcb16_1220x1398.png&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:725,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Future Religious Equilibria (2014, Libresco Sergeant)&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;&quot;}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/XVqWQ/1/" width="730" height="725" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div><p>The first thing that jumps out at me are the Mormons. We hear a lot about Muslims growing more influential in America through high fertility, but take a gander at them Latter-Day Saints! Libresco paints a possible future (again, a <em>far</em> future, which assumes nothing really changes for centuries) where (thanks to fertility effects) the Mormons outnumber the Catholics and Mainline Protestants <em>combined, </em>becoming America&#8217;s second-largest religious group, after Evangelicals.</p><p>Can you imagine what the country would look like if there were as many Mormons as there are Catholics or Evangelicals today? If <em>one-quarter</em> of Americans were members of this highly socialized, highly disciplined denomination?</p><p>I can&#8217;t! Mormons are pretty foreign to me. I know a few ex-Mormons and that&#8217;s about it. My impression is that Mormon Ascendancy would be good in some ways and bad in others.</p><p>However, it&#8217;s interesting how <em>unsurprising </em>this (pretty dramatic!) finding was, at least to me. We all know that Mormons are a tight-knit religious community and that they have a lot of babies. Carry that forward a few generations, especially in a world of sub-replacement fertility, and of course their share of the pie is gonna grow a whole lot!</p><p>The second thing I notice about this chart is what everybody else reading this chart in 2015 noticed: <em>look at that Catholic collapse!</em> This was 2015, when there was very little widespread recognition that the Catholic Church in America is headed for something resembling an extinction-level event. After a decade of parish closures and mergers, people on the ground seem to have more of a sense that things are going to get worse&#8212;but this chart contemplates a Catholic Church that has shrunk by <em>nearly two-thirds</em> in the far future. I still think Catholics who are dimly aware that Something Bad Is Happening are, for the most part, missing just How Bad things will get if we stay on our current course. </p><p>A third notable thing about the chart is that the Nones (Atheist/Agnostic/Nothing In Particular/Unaffiliated) get swole through conversion, but their fertility rates are so bad that they actually net out to losing ground rather than gaining it over the very long term.</p><p>Now, obviously, this isn&#8217;t what&#8217;s actually going to happen, because, <em>obviously</em>, conversion and fertility rates are not going to remain <em>exactly</em> the same for the next <em>three thousand years</em>. Nevertheless, I found it fascinating, because this is the direction we are currently heading. We are certain to deviate from this course, but this outcome is the baseline.</p><p>Or, at least, it <em>was</em> the baseline in 2015.</p><h2>New Data, New Article</h2><p>Libresco based her data on the <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2015/05/12/americas-changing-religious-landscape/">2014 Pew Religious Landscape Study</a>, a gold-standard survey of nearly 37,000 U.S. adults.</p><p>A couple years ago, Pew released an update, the <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/decline-of-christianity-in-the-us-has-slowed-may-have-leveled-off/">2024 Pew Religious Landscape Study</a>. </p><p>I&#8217;ve been looking for a chance to try my hand at a large data set for months. Its been way too long,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> and I figured (correctly) that the major barrier to entry (reading the manual) could be obviated with LLMs (which have read <em>every</em> manual). Replicating and building on one of my favorite articles seemed an ideal place to cut my teeth.</p><p>You see where this is going.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>De Civitate</em> is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2>Running Back the Data</h2><p>However, before I could update to 2024 data, I had to make sure I understood Libresco&#8217;s original project well enough to replicate it perfectly. That was step one.</p><p>When Libresco did this project, she only reported her final result: the reality 100 generations into her simulated future. Now that I&#8217;ve replicated her results, I can show you how it plays out over time! </p><p>A responsible editor would not let me do this, because the &#8220;generations&#8221; used in this algorithm are a simplification and do not truly onto actual human calendar years. Real human generations are blurry, and overlap, and run different lengths. To just arbitrarily declare that &#8220;1 generation = 28 years&#8221; would be to oversimplify a key component in an already oversimplified model.</p><p>Fortunately, I have <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfbtboeJ3RE">slain my editors</a>.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X_TT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F900e678f-52c9-4cad-ab23-d33ac3aae0d0_1761x881.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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(Pew Religious Landscape Study 2014)</figcaption></figure></div><p>That&#8217;s the full, reconstructed line graph, using Libresco&#8217;s exact methods and data from 2014.</p><p>Here&#8217;s a zoomed-in look at the 21st century alone:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dU2V!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb922d098-7d32-4ed6-9459-e1775935ff9b_919x689.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dU2V!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb922d098-7d32-4ed6-9459-e1775935ff9b_919x689.png 424w, 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">I repeat that the year labels are an approximation of an approximation. This chart is directionally honest, but should not be treated as a firm projection.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Here it is as a pie chart, since I&#8217;m also trying to learn Datawrapper:</p><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/BarfC/1/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5f4dc796-b032-494d-be3e-4dd647e73a51_1220x448.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1830b1e1-af94-40d9-a46a-6b0655e652e6_1220x448.png&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:215,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Created with Datawrapper&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;&quot;}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/BarfC/1/" width="730" height="215" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div><p>So we see that, even over just the next century or so, Libresco&#8217;s method shows Catholicism collapsing, although not completely. Mormonism also grows dramatically in size&#8230; but not to the point where most people really notice. They are still a small religion at the end of my daughters&#8217; natural lifespan. Evangelicals grow over the short term, which is interesting, because the long-term equilibrium has them shrinking. Islam grows a lot, but is starting from such a low floor it hardly matters.</p><p>Again, this is all using Libresco&#8217;s data, running Libresco&#8217;s code, none of my own. All I did was irresponsibly slap year labels on everything and show you some line graphs.</p><h2>Onward to 2024!</h2><p>Now you know why I spent all that time trying to figure out <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/fertility-by-religion-james-style">fertility by religion</a> last week!</p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;7235a210-466d-4c41-b89a-79797287e219&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;For a project I&#8217;m working on, I needed to know how many babies the average person had in all of America&#8217;s major religions.&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:&quot;Read full story&quot;,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;I Fixed the Biggest Mistake in Religion Surveys (and It Barely Changed the Results)&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:1325032,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;James J. Heaney&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:&quot;Walker Percy would have a whole lot to say about our attempts to sum up our selves in a few hundred characters. I blog at decivitate.substack.com.&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/41beb8c0-7588-452c-aa29-c4456d1f3e5d_293x293.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-23T21:30:16.085Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!c1hB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cd4f633-c0af-4093-aba3-2f5df815d22f_800x600.png&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/fertility-by-religion-james-style&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:194816101,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:15,&quot;comment_count&quot;:31,&quot;publication_id&quot;:585169,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;De Civitate&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U6Ka!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb3402975-a951-4f1e-93b1-b4ea73860550_293x293.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p>When we take the Pew Religious Landscape 2024 figures for religious conversion and combine it with my updated fertility stats, we get this view of the American religious future:</p><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/f2qx5/2/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4120cedb-faab-4d64-a94e-159d3cedc999_1220x818.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/045de267-8651-407b-9751-ff2c9dcd9d26_1220x888.png&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:435,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;[ Insert title here ]&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Create interactive, responsive &amp; beautiful charts &#8212; no code required.&quot;}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/f2qx5/2/" width="730" height="435" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div><p>In this newly-revised visions of the future, Evangelicals still go up&#8230; but, unlike in the 2013 survey, they don&#8217;t <em>really</em> go back down. They overtake the Nones in about a century, hit a plateau as America&#8217;s largest religious group, and stay there forever. What accounts for the difference?</p><p>Well, probably they are being buoyed a bit by Historically Black Protestants. Libresco separated HBPs, but the 2024 dataset made it much harder to filter them out, so I just had to sort Black Protestants into the two standard groups (Evangelical and Mainline). Since members of Historically Black Protestant denominations have higher fertility <em>and</em> higher retention than both White Evangelicals <em>and</em> the White Mainline, this boosted both categories. (You can therefore expect the influence of White Evangelicals to diminish and Black Evangelicals to grow, even within Evangelicalism, although I have not quantified how large this effect might be.)</p><p>It also helped Evangelicals that, according to Pew, Evangelical retention improved substantially in the past ten years, from ~65% to 72%. As with all compound interest problems, small changes in the rate lead to <em>big</em> changes far down the line. Moreover, I found that Evangelical fertility is relatively higher than Libresco found in 2014.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> In this vision of the future, then, America, ever Protestant, becomes a predominantly Evangelical nation&#8212;although there are more and more Black Evangelicals. </p><p>Catholicism still collapses, according to the 2024 data. The Mainline finally stops bleeding (again boosted by Black Protestant fertility) well before the Catholic Church does. Indeed, the collapse of Catholicism is the preeminent religious fact of the 21st century, if we hold our current course:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JpeI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04bbd11e-53a1-437f-aa08-c6ba47f25191_1367x957.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JpeI!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04bbd11e-53a1-437f-aa08-c6ba47f25191_1367x957.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JpeI!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04bbd11e-53a1-437f-aa08-c6ba47f25191_1367x957.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JpeI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04bbd11e-53a1-437f-aa08-c6ba47f25191_1367x957.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JpeI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04bbd11e-53a1-437f-aa08-c6ba47f25191_1367x957.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JpeI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04bbd11e-53a1-437f-aa08-c6ba47f25191_1367x957.png" width="1367" height="957" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/04bbd11e-53a1-437f-aa08-c6ba47f25191_1367x957.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:957,&quot;width&quot;:1367,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:72501,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/194760909?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04bbd11e-53a1-437f-aa08-c6ba47f25191_1367x957.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JpeI!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04bbd11e-53a1-437f-aa08-c6ba47f25191_1367x957.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JpeI!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04bbd11e-53a1-437f-aa08-c6ba47f25191_1367x957.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JpeI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04bbd11e-53a1-437f-aa08-c6ba47f25191_1367x957.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JpeI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04bbd11e-53a1-437f-aa08-c6ba47f25191_1367x957.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Same data, but zoomed in to just the 21st century. (Colors are screwed up. Sorry about that. Not sorry enough to fix it, but still.)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Catholic implosion is no surprise. Catholics have mediocre fertility (1.67 children per woman), mediocre retention (only 57% of those raised Catholic still identify Catholic as adults), and pretty poor conversion rates. For example, even though Catholicism and Evangelicalism are (today) similar-sized denominations, Muslims convert to Evangelicalism at <em>eight times </em>the rate Muslims convert to Catholicism!<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a></p><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/v8klx/1/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c9d367cc-dce3-4c93-842e-e9ef7e78caad_1220x870.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/08001e6f-93bb-43e9-a57d-4fafaebd9480_1220x1006.png&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:525,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Current Religion by Childhood Religion, Pew 2024&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Create interactive, responsive &amp; beautiful charts &#8212; no code required.&quot;}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/v8klx/1/" width="730" height="525" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div><p><em>[HOW TO READ THIS CHART: Start with the left column to pick a childhood religion. Then read that row right-to-left to see where children in that religion ended up as adults. For example, 0.5% of children raised <strong>Catholic</strong> end up <strong>Buddhist</strong>. 57.7% of <strong>Catholic</strong> kids remain <strong>Catholics</strong> as adults. 8.9% of those raised <strong>Catholic</strong> have since converted to <strong>Evangelicalism</strong>. And so forth. Looking at the <strong>Muslim</strong> row, you will notice that only 0.5% of <strong>Muslim</strong> children end up <strong>Catholic</strong>, but 3.8% of them become <strong>Evangelicals</strong>, which is about eight times as many.]</em></p><p>On the other hand, in this 2024 projection, the Latter-Day Saints never achieve takeoff, despite having the highest fertility in the nation! Libresco had them reaching equilibrium at nearly 25% of America, but I have them here at only 5%! This shocked me. Given the <em>insanely</em> high fertility I found for Mormons (3 children per woman!), I expected this chart to show even bigger and quicker Mormon Dominance. What happened to knock them so far off course since Libresco-Sergeant ran these numbers in 2014?</p><p>It&#8217;s the opposite of what happened to the Evangelicals. Pew 2024 found that Mormon retention had declined <em>substantially</em>, from 64% to only 54%. Insult to injury: the Mormon conversion rate (people becoming Mormon as adults) fell, too. The miracle of compound interest works in both directions, and these two trends decapitated Mormon growth expectations in America.</p><p>However, this chart, like Libresco&#8217;s original chart, doesn&#8217;t <em>quite</em> get at what <em>really</em> interests me. These are all self-identified members of each religious tradition, but many of these people are, in practice, barely attached culturally and not at all attached doctrinally. A future America where passionate, alive-for-Christ Evangelicals dominate the religious landscape is <em>quite different</em> from a future America dominated by a bunch of people who vaguely identify as Evangelical but have never read the Gospel&#8212;as Douthat&#8217;s most prescient tweet eternally reminds!</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/DouthatNYT/status/704462319074594816&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;A thought sent back in time to the theocracy panic of 2005: If you dislike the religious right, wait till you meet the post-religious right.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;DouthatNYT&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Ross Douthat&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1940772484300570625/4uYqAkC8_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2016-03-01T00:24:39.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:82,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:676,&quot;like_count&quot;:3041,&quot;impression_count&quot;:0,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><h2>The Religious Landscape, Minus &#8220;Indifferents&#8221;</h2><p>So I did the same thing here that I did in the fertility stats: I factored out people who don&#8217;t attend weekly services.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a> I have dubbed this group &#8220;indifferent,&#8221; so that I don&#8217;t have to type out &#8220;those-attending-in-person-less-than-weekly&#8221; every time.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a></p><p>It seemed likely to me (obvious, even) that, sure, the children of indifferent believers are bound to get peeled off, because (generalizing) they aren&#8217;t being taught to take it seriously in the first place. But those parents who are hauling their kids to church every Sunday, the true believers? <em>Those</em> parents are putting a lot of energy into passing on their faith, and therefore will have higher retention rates. When we separate the &#8220;indifferent&#8221; from the true believers, then, what we should see, over several generations, is indifferentism imploding but devoutness expanding, or at least holding its own.</p><p>When I first ran my figures, even I was astonished by how right I was. According to my calculations, <em>92% </em>of Evangelical children who attended weekly services remained active, weekly+ attendees in adulthood! For Catholics, 80% did the same! And&#8230; not a single Evangelical or Catholic left religion? Out of all the thousands polled?</p><p>At this point, I realized I had made a coding error. I corrected it, reran the figures, and&#8230;</p><p>Oh, dear.</p><p>Oh, dear, dear, dear.</p><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/QpwdD/1/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/477f9c89-482a-4aa9-9319-81813efc7d95_1220x1750.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0c1e7be3-19b6-4a76-914f-b84bb4c3b266_1220x1936.png&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:987,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Adult Religion &amp; Attendance by Childhood Religion &amp; Attendance, 2024&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;&quot;}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/QpwdD/1/" width="730" height="987" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div><p>This is a big chart with lots to look at. For those of you who don&#8217;t want to scan through all 361 cells, I think the tale of the table can be told in one illuminating factoid:</p><p>If a child is raised Catholic, faithfully attending Mass <em>at least</em> once a week while growing up, he has just a 21% chance of <em>remaining</em> a weekly Catholic as an adult. He is <em>exactly as likely</em> to become an atheist/agnostic as he is to remain a devout Catholic. (Remember, this is a religion that teaches non-attendance is a <em>mortal sin</em>!) But the child is about <em>twice</em> as likely to end up in the twilight zone: still identifying as Catholic, but not attending Mass more than once or twice a month.</p><p>The Evangelicals are doing a much better job retaining their children than the Catholics, who in turn are doing a much better job than the Mainline, but this is only a relative success. The chart as a whole is a disaster for all theist religioms. The <em>only</em> religion that is keeping even <em>half</em> of its children practicing the faith on a weekly basis is Islam&#8212;and then only just! Meanwhile, the overwhelming majority of children raised in No Religion remain Nones as adults.</p><p>Maybe I&#8217;ve drawn the line in the wrong place? Maybe I&#8217;m holding the kids to too strict a standard, and the fact that they&#8217;re only coming to church once or twice a month doesn&#8217;t make them &#8220;indifferent.&#8221; Do Mainline denominations <em>really</em> care if you&#8217;re in the pew <em>every</em> week? So I tried a second test where I changed the line from &#8220;attends weekly&#8221; to &#8220;attends monthly.&#8221; It made no significant difference.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a></p><p>This catastrophically bad conversion matrix produces the following cursed projection:</p><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/T94fS/1/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/da9c45da-e5ab-4358-9b19-871247097659_1220x590.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/68222f66-a44e-4e83-b440-3698b6850b48_1220x660.png&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:322,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Long-Term American Religious Equilibrium (w/Indifferents)&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;&quot;}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/T94fS/1/" width="730" height="322" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div><p>Here&#8217;s a zoomed-in version looking at the bottom 5% only: </p><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/GGkSd/2/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/112217d5-b123-4e4a-9e89-bad96bd41ad2_1220x592.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/b2b32d05-3e25-435d-87da-d361690b2a0d_1220x750.png&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:369,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Long-Term American Religious Equilibrium (w/Indifferents) (Copy)&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;&quot;}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/GGkSd/2/" width="730" height="369" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div><p>This largely confirms the story we were already telling. The collapse of the Catholic Church as a wide-reaching American entity is set to be the preeminent story of 21st century religious demography. In this projection, devout Muslims outnumber devout Catholics by the 24th century. Even the devout members of the Protestant Mainline&#8212;a laughing-stock of the past generation&#8212;surpasses Catholicism in the early 22nd century. Devout Mormons do it even faster, outnumbering Catholics in the pews every Sunday by the end of <em>this century</em>.</p><p>You might have thought that the Nones and the Indifferents, with their terrible fertility rates, would eventually be overcome, in the very long run, by the other religions, simply by being outbred. I did! However, Nones and Indifferents win converts at the highest rate by far, and, out of all religions compared, children raised None have the lowest chance of converting to another religion by adulthood. As long as they can keep that up, they don&#8217;t <em>need</em> babies. They can sustain themselves as the dominant American religions with converts alone.</p><p>So, in the very long run, is devout American religion just&#8230; over?</p><h2>Always In Motion, the Future Is</h2><p>There are a few reasons to expect that this projection of the future is wrong.</p><p>The first is the obvious: extrapolations of the far future from current trendlines are basically always totally wrong. As <a href="https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/g-k-chesterton/the-napoleon-of-notting-hill/text/book-1">G.K. Chesterton says</a>:</p><blockquote><p>The human race, to which so many of my readers belong, has been playing at children&#8217;s games from the beginning, and will probably do it till the end, which is a nuisance for the few people who grow up. And one of the games to which it is most attached is called &#8220;Keep Tomorrow Dark,&#8221; and which is also named (by the rustics in Shropshire, I have no doubt) &#8220;Cheat the Prophet.&#8221; The players listen very carefully and respectfully to all that the clever men have to say about what is to happen in the next generation. The players then wait until all the clever men are dead, and bury them nicely. They then go and do something else. That is all. For a race of simple tastes, however, it is great fun.</p></blockquote><p>(You know how rarely I advise you to read the whole thing, but <a href="https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/g-k-chesterton/the-napoleon-of-notting-hill/text/book-1">read the whole thing</a>. A first-rate first chapter to a first-rate book.)</p><p>Even the most sober, calculated predictions of the far future, then, must be given with the tongue slightly in cheek.</p><p>Besides, the data I have just shown you isn&#8217;t <em>really </em>from the past couple years. It&#8217;s more like the past thirty. Think about it: Pew asked adults in 2023 and 2024 what religion they were as children and what they became today. That is very recent data, so all the conversion rates in this article are based on adults&#8217; answers to those questions. But suppose Pew asked a 55-year-old the question, and the 55-year-old left his devout Evangelical faith for indifferent Mainline practice right after he graduated from college. The data may have been <em>collected</em> recently, but what we are really seeing in his case is a conversion that happened in 1991! This will be endemic throughout the dataset, because the average age of the representative respondent will be in his late 40s. What I have been showing you today, then, isn&#8217;t a window on <em>present</em> conversion rates, but a window on <em>past</em> conversion rates, spanning approximately the past 10-40 years. (We won&#8217;t know <em>present</em> conversion rates for a long while.)</p><p>This was not a particularly good 10-40 years for U.S. religions! At the start of it, the Catholic Church remained locked in vocation and doctrinal crisis, while the Evangelical world was rended by the televangelist scandals. In the middle of this period, the New Atheism arose (remember how intense that was?), and the Catholic Church was consumed by sex abuse scandals. Toward the end of the period, the sex abuse scandals spread to non-Catholic churches and Donald Trump&#8217;s alliance with religion made religion notably gender-polarized.</p><p>There is <a href="https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/the-nones-have-hit-a-ceiling">some evidence</a> that organized religion&#8217;s Very Long Lent (<a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/09/13/how-u-s-religious-composition-has-changed-in-recent-decades/">1990-???</a>), is <a href="https://archive.ph/jqIhm">finally slowing</a>, or even reversing. It would take a long, sustained movement to make up even half the ground religion has lost since its 1960s peak, but my projections today might represent, not the future, but the last gasp of an irreligious recent past.</p><p>On the other hand, as Nate Silver often reminds us, the numbers always change, but they can change in either direction, at any time. This new springtime for conversions could just as easily turn out to be a dead cat bounce for organized religion.</p><p>Finally, my projections could quite easily overlook a tiny cohort within a religion that has unusually strong fertility and retention. Suppose, for example, that there is a tiny bloc of Ultra-Orthodox Jews in the United States (say, 1:10,000 Americans). This hypothetical sect has an average of 4.0 children per woman (quite high, but still lower than <a href="https://medium.com/migration-issues/how-long-until-were-all-amish-268e3d0de87">current Amish fertility</a>) and keeps 73% of them in the fold as adults (same retention as Nones). My measurements couldn&#8217;t even detect this sect today, because they&#8217;d be so tiny. I&#8217;d simply interpret them as part of the already-tiny bloc of Jews with high attendance at religious services, and they would not be large enough to visibly boost that bloc&#8217;s fertility. Nevertheless, if they managed to stay on track for a few hundred years, they&#8217;d become the overwhelming majority in America:</p><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/W6Vlt/1/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f3adae7c-870e-4331-811e-124d051235b3_1220x590.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e0e09dd9-4082-4c0d-987e-38a9805b3656_1220x726.png&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:355,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Long-Term American Religious Equilibrium (w/Fertile Sect)&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;&quot;}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/W6Vlt/1/" width="730" height="355" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div><p>It is not difficult to imagine this of Orthodox Jews, since Israel&#8217;s political landscape has already been <a href="https://www.swp-berlin.org/10.18449/2020RP14/">substantially altered</a> by Ultra-Orthodox fertility.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a> However, it is also easy to imagine such ultra-devout movements emerging from the Latter-Day Saints, the Amish,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a> or even the fraction of Catholics who reject birth control. One (or more) of them having and sustaining high fertility plus high retention would rewrite America&#8217;s future entirely. </p><p>I have seen replacement of this general sort with my own eyes in Catholic parishes around me. Twenty years ago, only weirdos wore chapel veils or knelt to pray after Mass. But those weirdos had a lot of kids, and today it is common. If trends hold, we are maybe ten years from &#8220;kneeling after Mass&#8221; being common enough that the rest of us start doing it out of sheer peer pressure.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a></p><p>On the other hand, even the most devout Catholic families are still losing huge shares of their children to other faiths:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FnWf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb3fc2aa-574b-496f-8ba7-ef99fce63ade_535x617.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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All you have to do is shrink more slowly. Devout Catholics seem to be doing that within their parishes, but that won&#8217;t be enough to bend the curve in the wider culture unless they can get their retention numbers up.</p><h2>What Does the Future Hold?</h2><p>All we can say with confidence right now is the course major American organized religions have been on for the past few decades. Projecting that course forward paints quite a bad picture for American religion as a whole, albeit with some good news for Evangelicals and Latter-Day Saints, and especially bad news for Catholics.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a></p><p>We can also say with confidence that I know a whole lot more about exploring large data sets than I did three weeks ago, so, mission accomplished!</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>De Civitate</em> does all kinds of fun articles, and, if you subscribe, it shows up right in your email! What a great deal!</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p><em>NEXT VOYAGE: I don&#8217;t know what exactly I will write next, but I know there are many De Civ readers who aren&#8217;t here for &#8220;the Catholic stuff,&#8221; and it has been a lonnnng six weeks for those readers. Some change of pace is in order. We will see what. I may run an repost article from the archives next week while I work on it.</em></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/in-the-grim-darkness-of-the-far-future?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading <em>De Civitate</em>! Share and enjoy!</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/in-the-grim-darkness-of-the-far-future?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/in-the-grim-darkness-of-the-far-future?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><p><em>I&#8217;ve shared the code behind this post on <a href="https://github.com/BCSWowbagger/deciv-religious-share-projections">my GitHub</a>.</em></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Most people know Leah Libresco Sargeant from her conversion story, but I&#8217;m the weirdo who first encountered her as a FiveThirtyEight data journalist with a good eye for a story and a readiness to admit when the data led her to a place she didn&#8217;t expect or want. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I like a lot of what she writes on Substack or at <em>America</em>, and <em>The Great Soul Train Robbery</em> was good fun, but I must confess that I miss Data Journalist Libresco. </p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>They generally reach an equilibrium after 20 or 30 generations. </p><p>In this model, there is always an equilibrium. Eventually, a shrinking religion becomes small enough that it no longer needs very many conversions from larger religions to keep the enterprise afloat. Actually wiping out a religion requires not just a decrease in size, but a decrease in conversion rates, and this model assumes conversion rates remain fixed forever.</p><p>Likewise: eventually, a growing religion becomes so large that even relatively small rates of out-conversion overwhelms its growth rate from in-conversion&#8212;there are simply fewer converts available, the religion having already picked all the low-hanging fruit.</p><p>In reality, religious traditions sometimes vanish completely or become completely dominant, thanks to feedback loops or external events, but this model can&#8217;t represent that.</p><p>This model also omits immigration and differential death rates, which are a big deal in reality.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I was 22, unmarried, and fresh out of college when I wrote &#8220;<a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2012/02/24/the-james-j-heaney-institute-presents-a-new-study-of-religion-and-contraceptive-use/">Countering </a><em><a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2012/02/24/the-james-j-heaney-institute-presents-a-new-study-of-religion-and-contraceptive-use/">Countering Conventional Wisdom</a>,</em>&#8221; an extended rebuttal to Planned Parenthood&#8217;s claims during that election cycle that it was okay&#8212;actually good!&#8212;for the government to to force Catholic nuns to pay for contraceptives, because &#8220;98% of Catholic women&#8221; didn&#8217;t follow Catholic teaching on contraception anyway, so clearly <em>the nuns who took vows of lifelong celibacy in service to the Church</em> couldn&#8217;t take the lame contraceptive teachings all <em>that</em> seriously, either.</p><p>If you are young enough to have missed this, and think it sounds stupid, you cannot <em>imagine</em> how stupid that election cycle was. The reasons Donald Trump is president (<em><a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/greta-thunberg-pretender-to-the-american">de facto</a></em>) today are overdetermined, but one <em>sine qua non</em> of Trump&#8217;s 2016 victory was the stupidity and unfairness of the 2012 campaign against Mitt Romney and every other human being who right-of-center. For many of us, it was a mask-off moment, revealing institutional rot in American institutions that could not be reformed, only destroyed. This was much less obvious before <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/worthy-reads-how-an-rbmk-reactor">Trump, covid, the Hunter Biden laptop, and the Biden senility crisis</a>. Heck, I was a regular NPR listener in 2012! Some people who saw this, and were (rightly) radicalized by it, concluded (wrongly albeit understandably) that Donald Trump was the solution to that problem. But I digress!</p><p>Preparing &#8220;Countering Conventional Wisdom&#8221; took weeks and weeks. Most of the time wasn&#8217;t spent on analyzing the data and drawing conclusions. Most of it was spent trying to learn the software I had to use (SPSS), one painful sequence of commands at a time. </p><p>Looking back, I strongly suspect that I did not assign weights correctly, potentially invalidating all my results. There was also a ton of time spent wading through codebooks, trying to find the information I was interested in, manually copying the appropriate values into SPSS, running a query, and refining the query after it inevitably didn&#8217;t <em>quite</em> show what I wanted. </p><p>I was (and am) very proud of the industriousness I showed that month, out of sheer bitter-minded contempt for the Alan Guttmacher Institute (which I still hold!), but it was more than I could chew. It was months before I had time to attempt another data project, and, by then, I had forgotten so many of the things I had learned from my first run at SPSS that trying again seemed like an insurmountable obstacle. I haven&#8217;t opened the General Social Survey since.</p><p>However, LLMs can read manuals <em>really, really well</em>. ChatGPT told me how to do this project in SPSS&#8230; but then suggested I do it in a program called &#8220;pandas&#8221; instead, and ChatGPT was right, that&#8217;s a much more powerful approach, and thank goodness ChatGPT has read the pandas manual, because I certainly haven&#8217;t!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>MY WIFE: &#8220;I can tell!&#8221;</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Whether this reflects actual change or simply different methodologies for determining fertility, I can&#8217;t say. However, our methods do appear to have been significantly different. Libresco had Evangelicals tied with Catholics at 2.3 children per child, with the third-highest fertility overall. I found them at 1.91 children per mother, significantly above Catholics, although still third overall.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Pew itself has a good article about this, entitled &#8220;<a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/religious-switching/">Religious Switching</a>,&#8221; that delves a lot deeper into conversion. My heatmap is cooler, though.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Except Hindus, Buddhists, and Nones. Just like before.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is a sweeping generalization, as most labels on statistical categories are.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Here is that chart. Relaxing the definition of &#8220;indifferent&#8221; does indeed tend to boost the (now more relaxed) retention stat in each religion, but not by much.</p><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/VMUhF/1/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7fa2bb33-c982-4675-8cd8-6fd59bfdec96_1220x2236.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c536484a-f1b3-4557-9984-2c927035af28_1220x2306.png&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:1199,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Same Chart As Before, But Monthly+ Instead of Weekly+&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Create interactive, responsive &amp; beautiful charts &#8212; no code required.&quot;}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/VMUhF/1/" width="730" height="1199" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The growth of the Haredim in Israel is doubly impressive, demographically speaking, because Israel&#8217;s population as a whole has always been remarkably fertile. Even secular women in Israel (hiloni) average 2.2 children, which makes secular Israeli women one of the wonders of the world, fertility-wise. Self-identified non-religious &#8220;cultural&#8221; Jews have 2.5 children, traditionally religious women (masorti) 3.2 children (ahead of American Mormons), &#8220;national-religious women&#8221; (who take their religion with a side of Zionism) a stunning <em>4.0 </em>children per women&#8230; but they are <em>still</em> being outpaced by the ultra-fertile, ultra-retentive Ultra-Orthodox (haredi), who average <em>6.6 children per woman. </em>(<a href="https://en.idi.org.il/haredi/2020/?chapter=34272">source for birth rates</a>) (<a href="https://jppi.org.il/en/%d7%94%d7%9e%d7%a1%d7%95%d7%a8%d7%aa%d7%99%d7%9d/s/3.1.1/">source for labels</a>)</p><p>Thus, their slice of Israel&#8217;s pie continues to grow, even though Israel is one of the few countries on Earth where the pie isn&#8217;t shrinking, or about to start shrinking.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>As a matter of fact, the Amish are in a <em>great</em> position to do this. They have about 75% retention, have significantly <em>more</em> than 4 births per woman, and they are already 1/1,000th of the U.S. population, not 1/10,000th like my hypothetical sect. So if the Amish can just hold steady, their exponential growth would make them the majority U.S. religion in just nine or ten generations (or so), a couple centuries faster than the chart. However, Amish fertility, high as it is, has been <a href="https://medium.com/migration-issues/how-long-until-were-all-amish-268e3d0de87">in free fall for forty years</a>, and that would need to stop for this prophecy to come true.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Similarly, this will be all of us in a few years:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bq5n!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1379b9b2-23e5-4cbf-bcc5-a7b469be50c6_1200x1200.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bq5n!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1379b9b2-23e5-4cbf-bcc5-a7b469be50c6_1200x1200.jpeg" width="534" height="534" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1379b9b2-23e5-4cbf-bcc5-a7b469be50c6_1200x1200.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1200,&quot;width&quot;:1200,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:534,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Image&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Image" title="Image" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bq5n!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1379b9b2-23e5-4cbf-bcc5-a7b469be50c6_1200x1200.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bq5n!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1379b9b2-23e5-4cbf-bcc5-a7b469be50c6_1200x1200.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bq5n!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1379b9b2-23e5-4cbf-bcc5-a7b469be50c6_1200x1200.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bq5n!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1379b9b2-23e5-4cbf-bcc5-a7b469be50c6_1200x1200.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">h/t <a href="https://x.com/BackwardsFeet/status/2051341955859128619">Fr. @BackwardsFeet</a> </figcaption></figure></div><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-13" href="#footnote-anchor-13" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">13</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Catholics have been buoyed by immigration (which is totally ignored in this model). They may continue to benefit from that, but it&#8217;s probably not sustainable as Latin America secularizes, the Church there loses ground to Evangelicals, especially if U.S. immigration policy continues to curtail Latin migration. Also, the buoying effect is <a href="https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/the-myth-of-the-devout-immigrant">not as strong as you think</a>.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[I Fixed the Biggest Mistake in Religion Surveys (and It Barely Changed the Results)]]></title><description><![CDATA[Graphs About Religion! (Ryan Burge please don't sue me.)]]></description><link>https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/fertility-by-religion-james-style</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/fertility-by-religion-james-style</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[James J. Heaney]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 21:30:16 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!c1hB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cd4f633-c0af-4093-aba3-2f5df815d22f_800x600.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a project I&#8217;m working on, I needed to know how many babies the average person had in all of America&#8217;s major religions.</p><p>Every two years, the Cooperative Election Survey asks 60,000 Americans a bunch of questions. Over the past four surveys (~240,000 validated Americans), here is how many babies women had in each of several major religions:<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B_4J!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33780c16-9a72-4a7d-815b-21b1eab7f1c0_800x600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B_4J!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33780c16-9a72-4a7d-815b-21b1eab7f1c0_800x600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B_4J!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33780c16-9a72-4a7d-815b-21b1eab7f1c0_800x600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B_4J!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33780c16-9a72-4a7d-815b-21b1eab7f1c0_800x600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B_4J!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33780c16-9a72-4a7d-815b-21b1eab7f1c0_800x600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B_4J!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33780c16-9a72-4a7d-815b-21b1eab7f1c0_800x600.png" width="800" height="600" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><strong>Notes for people who aren&#8217;t good with graphs (e.g. my mom)</strong></em>: on each colored category, there&#8217;s a line with a hash at either end. They&#8217;re called <em>error bars</em>. They show how confident we are in our result. A short error bar (like the error bar on &#8220;Catholic&#8221;) is good. It means we&#8217;re very confident the result is close to correct. A long error bar (like the one on &#8220;Muslim&#8221;) shows that we aren&#8217;t confident. The truth could quite easily be anywhere between the hash marks. &#8220;<em>n=197</em>&#8221; (or whatever) means that there were 197 people in the survey who fell in a category (Mormon women ages 44-55, for example) before mathematical weights were applied. A bigger <em>n</em> means smaller error bars.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Many Bothans died shrinking those error bars to a reasonable size.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U2we!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea706329-359a-4558-bd86-cec9acc1d914_950x320.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U2we!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea706329-359a-4558-bd86-cec9acc1d914_950x320.jpeg 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U2we!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea706329-359a-4558-bd86-cec9acc1d914_950x320.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U2we!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea706329-359a-4558-bd86-cec9acc1d914_950x320.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U2we!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea706329-359a-4558-bd86-cec9acc1d914_950x320.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">This isn&#8217;t relevant, but it <em>is </em>funny.</figcaption></figure></div><p>I could have pulled a similar chart from any number of existing sources. Many people have already asked the question, &#8220;How many babies do women in each religion have?&#8221; and they have posted their answers right here on the Internet.</p><p>Unfortunately, I think all their answers are wrong, because they aren&#8217;t asking quite the right question.</p><p>You know the saying, &#8220;All models are wrong, but some are useful&#8221;? I think the basic model we have for surveying religion in the United States is not the most useful way of looking at American religion.</p><h2>Indifference is Not Religion</h2><p>The typical American religious pie chart looks like this:</p><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/6UzHb/1/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0940b202-063c-4e48-beb1-41f7dd2e9274_1220x1398.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4f32fd28-ace5-4c3a-aee1-7787198a214c_1220x1506.png&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:745,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Major American Religions, 2024&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;&quot;}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/6UzHb/1/" width="730" height="745" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div><p><em>(Note to email readers: over on <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/194816101">the webpage</a>, you can interact with this pie chart! <a href="https://nsokolsky.substack.com/p/how-to-insert-a-table-in-substack">Turns out</a> the Datawrapper plugin is open to every Substacker, not just Nate Silver!)</em></p><p>However, the majority of self-identified Catholics in surveys are not &#8220;Catholic&#8221; in any <em>useful</em> sense. <em>Most</em> &#8220;Catholics&#8221; in surveys are only Catholics in a <em>cultural</em> sense. It is part of their background, their family story, but makes little actual difference to what they believe or how they live. They pray sometimes, perhaps. Some even consider religion important to them! However, they live primarily as Americans, not as Catholics, practicing the <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/the-truth-and-nothing-but-the-truth">standard Doesn&#8217;t-Matterism</a> of 21st century America. </p><p>As I wrote <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/some-impromptu-post-election-thoughts?open=false#%C2%A7the-catholic-vote">just after the 2024 election</a>:</p><blockquote><p>Because cultural Catholics are basically just ordinary Americans who might say the Hail Mary once in a while, and because there are so many of them, when you poll &#8220;Catholics&#8221; <em>without</em> filtering for specifically <em>religious</em> Catholics, you&#8217;re basically just getting a random sample of ordinary Americans. Their polling responses are basically always pretty much exactly the same as polling results for normal Americans, unless you ask them about St. Patrick&#8217;s Day or tacos.</p><p>(That&#8217;s the other thing about Catholics: churchgoing or not, we are disproportionately White&#8212;specifically Irish&#8212;and Hispanic.)</p></blockquote><p>Whenever someone shows you a chart about Catholics, with no filtering, you&#8217;re usually better off cutting out the middleman and just looking up a chart about Hispanics and Scots-Irish instead.</p><p>I don&#8217;t know whether this is as pronounced in other religions as it is in Catholicism, but every religion has people who identify as part of it without living like it. The great Ryan Burge has single-handedly changed how we think about Evangelicals simply by <a href="https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/im-an-evangelical-but-i-rarely-go">pointing out</a> how many <em>cultural</em> Evangelicals there are&#8212;and how much they (increasingly) differ from <em>devout </em>Evangelicals.</p><p>When <em>I </em>see graphs about religion, then, I always want to factor out the people who aren&#8217;t actually all that interested in their self-reported religion.</p><h2>Definitional Problems</h2><p>Unfortunately, it&#8217;s not a simple matter to identify these &#8220;Doesn&#8217;t-Matterists&#8221; or &#8220;Indifferentists.&#8221; </p><p>First, in reality, indifferentism lives on a spectrum, so any line we draw between &#8220;indifferent&#8221; and &#8220;devout&#8221; will be arbitrary. No matter what we do, we&#8217;re going to count some people as &#8220;indifferent&#8221; who should count as &#8220;devout&#8221; and vice versa.</p><p>Second, definitions of what makes one &#8220;devout&#8221; will vary from religion to religion. For example, as a Catholic, I considered defining an &#8220;indifferentist&#8221; as &#8220;someone who believes it is morally acceptable to use artificial birth control,&#8221; which is a key fault line between devout Catholics and cultural Catholics. However, that definition would hardly work for Protestantism, where even the devout accepted contraceptives wholesale between 1930 and 1970. Maybe I should define an &#8220;indifferent Protestant&#8221; as someone who rejects Biblical inerrancy? But then how would I define indifferent Jews? Or, for that matter, how would I then define indifferent Mainline Protestants, since most of the Mainline rejects Biblical inerrancy? And so on. Even if this <em>didn&#8217;t</em> thrust me into the doctrinal minefields of a dozen religions I don&#8217;t even belong to, defining indifference as a matter of heterodoxy is simply unworkable.</p><p>Third, <em>indifference</em> is not quite the same thing as <em>heterodoxy</em>. Lots of Catholics who contracept are <em>very </em>invested in their religion, show up to Mass every week, and are very upset about the Church&#8217;s teaching. You could call them heretics, you could call them sinners, but you can&#8217;t call them indifferent!</p><h2>America&#8217;s Common Hour</h2><p>One striking commonality among major American religions is the requirement to go to church every week. </p><p>In Catholicism, failure to attend Sunday services without a serious reason is (ordinarily) a mortal sin. Protestantism inherited this rule from Catholicism. While their various denominations have transformed the rule in many different directions, there remains a strong expectation in most of Protestantism that the faithful will attend Sunday services weekly. Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses have no &#8220;official&#8221; attendance requirement, but anyone not in the pew weekly will get hounded by their elders. Muslims have rigid weekly attendance requirements at mosque. And so on.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> Certainly there is a strong correlation between non-attendance and indifference to doctrine, indifference to prayer, indifference to religious disciplines, and so on.</p><p>That, then, is where I have drawn the line. People who attend religious services &#8220;once or twice a month&#8221; or less are the group I consider &#8220;indifferent.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> Once you account for this, the religious pie chart from before shifts a lot:</p><h2>Religion Minus Indifferents</h2><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/msS0S/2/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1f56ff66-5052-4ad1-ab52-ef039883450d_1220x1362.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/313c6154-10d5-4968-a1e8-95f3d1b91818_1220x1498.png&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:741,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Major American Religions, 2024 (James' Flavor)&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Create interactive, responsive &amp; beautiful charts &#8212; no code required.&quot;}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/msS0S/2/" width="730" height="741" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div><p>Of course, I <em>could</em> make a pie chart showing allllll the different types of religiously indifferent Americans: the indifferent Catholics versus the indifferent Evangelicals versus the indifferent Jews, and so on. In fact, just for you, I&#8217;ll do that in this footnote.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a></p><p>However, in my experience, all else being equal,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a> the religiously indifferent from have more in common with one another (religiously speaking) than they do with their self-identified co-religionists. (Their actual religious beliefs tend to all boil down to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moralistic_therapeutic_deism&amp;oldid=1338886281">Moralistic Therapeutic Deism</a>.) So I have opted, on this chart, to put the indifferent from <em>all</em> faiths into their own giant pie slice.</p><p>I think this is, for most purposes, a more accurate representation of the true religious currents in the United States. America is <em>mostly</em> divided between the Nones and the Moralistic Therapeutic Deists. (I have not checked their political alignments, but suffice to say I have some suspicions.) There is no moral majority. There is a rather meagre minority, often divided against itself on important questions. No wonder it often feels besieged.</p><p>The share of devout Catholics in the U.S. is not one-fifth to one-quarter, as is often reported, but about one-twentieth. Catholicism is a rump religion. Its numbers are inflated by its powerful cultural influence, which lingers, sometimes for generations, after its former adherents have, for all intents and purposes, abandoned Rome. What cultural Catholics do and think does not necessarily indicate what practicing Catholics do and think.</p><p>The Protestant Mainline, once the dominant religious and cultural force in America, has for all practical purposes ceased to exist.</p><p>Even the Born-Agains don&#8217;t look too hot by these numbers, although they are (clearly, by far) the largest and most influential religious group in America, more than double the size of the Catholics.</p><p>So this chart&#8212;the truer chart, in my opinion&#8212;presents a lot of food for thought.</p><p>However, today, I only care about fertility by religion.</p><h2>Fertility by Religion, James-Style</h2><p>In conclusion, here is the fertility chart from the start of the article, but now with Indifferents factored out:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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What do you call it when you finally ask the right question, but get the same answer?</p><p>It&#8217;s worth examining this in a little more detail:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZtl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0b32db0-925f-4044-bd3f-7ee11cda4092_800x600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZtl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0b32db0-925f-4044-bd3f-7ee11cda4092_800x600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZtl!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0b32db0-925f-4044-bd3f-7ee11cda4092_800x600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZtl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0b32db0-925f-4044-bd3f-7ee11cda4092_800x600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZtl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0b32db0-925f-4044-bd3f-7ee11cda4092_800x600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZtl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0b32db0-925f-4044-bd3f-7ee11cda4092_800x600.png" width="800" height="600" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZtl!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0b32db0-925f-4044-bd3f-7ee11cda4092_800x600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZtl!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0b32db0-925f-4044-bd3f-7ee11cda4092_800x600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZtl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0b32db0-925f-4044-bd3f-7ee11cda4092_800x600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZtl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0b32db0-925f-4044-bd3f-7ee11cda4092_800x600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>There are two interesting patterns here:</p><p><em>First</em>, religious involvement <em>is</em> associated with fertility. This is well-documented and not a surprise, but it is still satisfying to see the effect holding consistent across religions. Churchgoing Catholics are more fertile than Indifferent Catholics, Born-Agains than Indifferent Born-Agains, and so on. This relationship gets muddy in a few places on the chart, but I think we can chalk that up to small sample sizes causing large margins of error.</p><p><em>Second</em>, religious involvement&#8217;s association with fertility, while real, <em>isn&#8217;t that strong</em>. When I rendered this chart, I expected to see a chart where all the &#8220;devout&#8221; religious cohorts were at the top, in order, followed by all the &#8220;indifferent&#8221; cohorts at the bottom. For example, I expected Indifferent Mormons to be more fertile than Indifferent Catholics, but I expected Churchgoing Catholics to be substantially more fertile than both. </p><p>The reality is close to the opposite! Over and over again on this chart, the Churchgoing and Indifferent bands for a religion are found right next to one another. Churchgoing Mormons are more fertile than Indifferent Mormons&#8230; but Indifferent Mormons are <em>still </em>more fertile than <em>everyone else</em>. This suggests three theories:</p><ol><li><p>Fertility is driven much more strongly by demographics (race, income) and culture (what your neighbors are doing, the messages you receive) than by religious practice or belief.</p></li><li><p>The people I&#8217;ve labeled &#8220;indifferent&#8221; aren&#8217;t as indifferent as I thought, and many continue to be believe and practice in limited ways even after abandoning the standard practice of weekly attendance.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a></p></li><li><p>The people I&#8217;ve labeled &#8220;indifferent&#8221; really are indifferent&#8212;but they didn&#8217;t used to be. They were raised devout, had some or all of their babies while devout, and <em>then</em> became indifferent, when it was too late to have an impact on their fertility.</p></li></ol><p><a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/if-its-a-genocide-how-can-you-be">As always</a>, the true reason for this result is probably a mix of those theories, plus several others I haven&#8217;t thought of.</p><p>That&#8217;s all! Mormons have lots of babies, Buddhists don&#8217;t, news at 11. This post was merely a stepping stone to another post still in the works.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>De Civitate</em> is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p><em>I&#8217;ve shared the code behind this post on <a href="https://github.com/BCSWowbagger/git-deciv-fertility-by-religion-james-style">my GitHub</a>.</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This chart checks on 44-55 year old women, specifically, because they have (with very rare exceptions) <em>finished </em>having children. </p><p>You <em>could</em> use another measure, called Total Fertility Rate, to look at women of current reproductive age (15-44) and <em>project</em> how many total children they will have based on how many they have had already. This gives you more up-to-date information, but at the expense of adding more guesswork about future fertility patterns. Today, I prefer the &#8220;completed fertility&#8221; measure, because it involves no guesswork. Yes, it includes a few women who finished having babies quite a long time ago. For example, a 55-year old woman in the 2018 survey who had her last baby and had her tubes tied at age 39 finished childbearing way back in 2002! However, I don&#8217;t <em>need</em> cutting-edge, up-to-the-second fertility data here; fertility rates haven&#8217;t changed so quickly since the early 2000s that the changes are going to upend my analysis.</p><p>One note is that the CES caps reported fertility at 8. If you tell them you have 10 kids, they just put that under &#8220;8 or more&#8221; and it counts as 8 for my measurements in this article. People with more than 8 kids are so rare that it should make little difference to the outcome, but, still, it&#8217;s worth noting, since I know at least one man with 12 kids who reads this blog.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>(This long footnote is all just talking about data and process. Pretty boring. Lots of pictures, but I put all my best and truest pictures in the main article.)</em></p><p>I started out by just looking at women in the 2024 Cooperative Election Survey, which got me this chart:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5IQI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcda974cb-99dd-4f48-92b1-ae684b390d86_2384x1824.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5IQI!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcda974cb-99dd-4f48-92b1-ae684b390d86_2384x1824.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5IQI!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcda974cb-99dd-4f48-92b1-ae684b390d86_2384x1824.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5IQI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcda974cb-99dd-4f48-92b1-ae684b390d86_2384x1824.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5IQI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcda974cb-99dd-4f48-92b1-ae684b390d86_2384x1824.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5IQI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcda974cb-99dd-4f48-92b1-ae684b390d86_2384x1824.png" width="1456" height="1114" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Some of these error bars are fine! There are 1,617 religiously unaffiliated women represented in the Nones bar on this chart, which is plenty to give us a good reliable estimate of how many children non-religious women had, on average.</p><p>However, in the entire 60,000 person sample, there were only <em>22</em> Muslim women aged 44-55. That makes sense, demographically! Muslims are less than 1% of the population. But the result was a 95% confidence interval that ranged from 1.11 child per Muslim woman all the way up to 3.84 children per Muslim woman. In other words, because this sample was so small, Muslims could <em>quite plausibly</em> be anywhere from the least fertile religion to the most fertile religion. Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses (Observations in sample: just 12) are even worse. Holy error bars, Batman!</p><p>I first tried to correct this by widening the sample, counting men and expanding the age range:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q_mO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee0ca646-1aa5-41b5-805c-e6ad84a54528_2384x1824.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q_mO!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee0ca646-1aa5-41b5-805c-e6ad84a54528_2384x1824.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q_mO!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee0ca646-1aa5-41b5-805c-e6ad84a54528_2384x1824.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q_mO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee0ca646-1aa5-41b5-805c-e6ad84a54528_2384x1824.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q_mO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee0ca646-1aa5-41b5-805c-e6ad84a54528_2384x1824.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q_mO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee0ca646-1aa5-41b5-805c-e6ad84a54528_2384x1824.png" width="1456" height="1114" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ee0ca646-1aa5-41b5-805c-e6ad84a54528_2384x1824.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1114,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:177655,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/194816101?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee0ca646-1aa5-41b5-805c-e6ad84a54528_2384x1824.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q_mO!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee0ca646-1aa5-41b5-805c-e6ad84a54528_2384x1824.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q_mO!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee0ca646-1aa5-41b5-805c-e6ad84a54528_2384x1824.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q_mO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee0ca646-1aa5-41b5-805c-e6ad84a54528_2384x1824.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q_mO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fee0ca646-1aa5-41b5-805c-e6ad84a54528_2384x1824.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The benefit of this approach is that it really does give us a lot more data. There are 38,943 people in this sample, versus just 4,530 in the previous sample. That shrinks the error bars a lot! </p><p>The problem is that it sweeps in much, much older data. A 100-year-old Catholic woman who had her last baby in 1961 will now be included in this sample&#8212;but Catholic fertility was considerably higher in 1961 compared to today, which means this paints a less accurate picture of religious fertility <em>today</em>. </p><p>The expanded sample also sweeps in some <em>younger</em> women who may not have completed childbearing yet, artificially lowering the stats for religions where women tend to have their kids later in life (like the Nones).</p><p>The other thing I just don&#8217;t like very much here is including men. Men don&#8217;t have the babies, they can have babies at all ages, and it&#8217;s apparently well-known that they systematically underreport their number of kids to researchers.</p><p><a href="https://religionunplugged.com/news/2021/10/4/the-future-of-american-religion-birth-rates-show-whos-having-more-kids">A few years back</a>, Ryan Burge, the gold standard in <a href="https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/">graphs about religion</a>, asked a similar question  (with the CES 2020 rather than the CES 2024), but he took a slightly different approach: he looked at 35-45 year-old adults <em>who had children in the household</em> (ignoring adults who had no children, which obviously raised his averages!):</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n-3B!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0aa289d-3088-462c-b44f-8bfc2de21442_2100x1500.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n-3B!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0aa289d-3088-462c-b44f-8bfc2de21442_2100x1500.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n-3B!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0aa289d-3088-462c-b44f-8bfc2de21442_2100x1500.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n-3B!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0aa289d-3088-462c-b44f-8bfc2de21442_2100x1500.png 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n-3B!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0aa289d-3088-462c-b44f-8bfc2de21442_2100x1500.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n-3B!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0aa289d-3088-462c-b44f-8bfc2de21442_2100x1500.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n-3B!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0aa289d-3088-462c-b44f-8bfc2de21442_2100x1500.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>He had some really tight error bars on that, so I looked into it for a while in hopes of replicating his work, and then building off of it.</p><p>I did manage to replicate his findings, but not his error bars:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rFq2!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faaf8d8cc-0d2f-4456-aedb-9ce870f60280_800x600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rFq2!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faaf8d8cc-0d2f-4456-aedb-9ce870f60280_800x600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rFq2!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faaf8d8cc-0d2f-4456-aedb-9ce870f60280_800x600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rFq2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faaf8d8cc-0d2f-4456-aedb-9ce870f60280_800x600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rFq2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faaf8d8cc-0d2f-4456-aedb-9ce870f60280_800x600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rFq2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faaf8d8cc-0d2f-4456-aedb-9ce870f60280_800x600.png" width="800" height="600" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rFq2!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faaf8d8cc-0d2f-4456-aedb-9ce870f60280_800x600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rFq2!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faaf8d8cc-0d2f-4456-aedb-9ce870f60280_800x600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rFq2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faaf8d8cc-0d2f-4456-aedb-9ce870f60280_800x600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rFq2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faaf8d8cc-0d2f-4456-aedb-9ce870f60280_800x600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">My replication of Burge&#8217;s chart.</figcaption></figure></div><p>You may be wondering why Burge&#8217;s error bars are so much smaller than mine, even without pooling.</p><p>I&#8217;m wondering that, too! Clearly, I&#8217;m not as clever as I thought (yet). </p><p>In this particular slice of the CES 2020 (35-45 y.o. adults of either sex), there&#8217;s only 45 observations of Muslims (whose weights sum to just 39.9), so there must be some math I don&#8217;t know about allowing Burge to be more confident in his averages than I am. Alas, I stopped after Statistics 101 because the intro course was all my major required! </p><p>I then tried using the Cumulative CES 2006-2024, even though it would have dragged in a lot of extra data from earlier times that I didn&#8217;t really want. However, the Cumulative CES doesn&#8217;t even include the fertility variable, so it was useless to me!</p><p>Eventually, I discovered that, as long as the underlying data are extremely similar, you can use math (something called <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-variance_weighting">inverse-variance weighting</a>) to pool multiple surveys together. At first, this was very cool. However, it had some drawbacks. The main thing inverse-variance weighting does is give extra weight to &#8220;stable,&#8221; unvarying samples. In one wave, though, there was only one (1!) Orthodox woman in the age range and who attended services regularly. She had three kids. Since there was only 1 woman in that sample, the math said this sample was <em>infinitely stable </em>(because <em>every</em> woman in the sample had 3 children!). So the weighting equation discarded <em>all</em> the other data from other Orthodox women in other waves, gave 100% of the weight to this one woman, and confidently informed me that the average Orthodox woman has <em>exactly</em> three children, with zero need for a confidence interval. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PSKu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1c893caa-0e7e-42ef-abc0-f764f2901246_800x600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PSKu!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1c893caa-0e7e-42ef-abc0-f764f2901246_800x600.png 424w, 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">This chart is bad and wrong!</figcaption></figure></div><p>You can see this chart is doing something similar to the Jews. Not <em>quite</em> as bad, but similar problem: one wave randomly got just a few Jews with no kids, which was technically a low-variance sample and therefore ended up with 78% of the weight.</p><p>Finally, I learned that you can pool a survey reasonably well by combining their results and rescaling their weights. This isn&#8217;t perfect, either, but it appears to avoid the inverse-variance weighting problem. Hopefully I did it right! (You can check it out in the GitHub code at the bottom of the article.) </p><p>This article was a crash course in stats, much more than I expected at the outset.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The only major American religious traditions where there&#8217;s no evident association between devotion and attendance at services are Buddhism, Hinduism, and, of course, Atheism and Agnosticism.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Except Buddhists, Hindus, and Nones. (See previous footnote.)</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8230;but I&#8217;m not going to spend half-an-hour coloring <em>all</em> the slices like I did on the others:</p><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/UeYDX/3/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e30e831a-1fbd-420b-894f-77befbcc87dc_1220x1132.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ad92b2ae-b8b6-41a2-9fab-ceb2026cde84_1220x1202.png&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:593,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Major American Religions 2018-24, by Indifference&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;&quot;}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/UeYDX/3/" width="730" height="593" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Of course, all else is never equal. Indifferent members of different religions often behave very differently from one another.</p><p>However, this is likely not because of their <em>religion</em> (which they don&#8217;t seem to particularly care about), but because of other factors <em>associated</em> with their religion, like race, socioeconomic class, age, and geographic region.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I did test for this a little, by trying out a narrower definition of &#8220;indifference.&#8221; In this chart, you count as churchgoing if you attend at least &#8220;a few times a year&#8221;. You only count as &#8220;indifferent&#8221; if you attend &#8220;seldom&#8221; or &#8220;never&#8221;:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Oao4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f5cdc95-7ae2-4a50-a97f-fa606f47f56f_800x600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Oao4!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f5cdc95-7ae2-4a50-a97f-fa606f47f56f_800x600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Oao4!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f5cdc95-7ae2-4a50-a97f-fa606f47f56f_800x600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Oao4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f5cdc95-7ae2-4a50-a97f-fa606f47f56f_800x600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Oao4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f5cdc95-7ae2-4a50-a97f-fa606f47f56f_800x600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Oao4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f5cdc95-7ae2-4a50-a97f-fa606f47f56f_800x600.png" width="800" height="600" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4f5cdc95-7ae2-4a50-a97f-fa606f47f56f_800x600.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:600,&quot;width&quot;:800,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:91842,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/194816101?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f5cdc95-7ae2-4a50-a97f-fa606f47f56f_800x600.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Oao4!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f5cdc95-7ae2-4a50-a97f-fa606f47f56f_800x600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Oao4!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f5cdc95-7ae2-4a50-a97f-fa606f47f56f_800x600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Oao4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f5cdc95-7ae2-4a50-a97f-fa606f47f56f_800x600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Oao4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f5cdc95-7ae2-4a50-a97f-fa606f47f56f_800x600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>As you can see, the pattern (mostly) holds. Churchgoing members of a religion clump together in bands with their Indifferent brethren, even when we redefine &#8220;indifferent&#8221; to count only those fully severed from the regular practice of their faiths. Fertility-wise, Indifferent Catholics are much closer to other Catholics than they are to Indifferent Jews. This continues to surprise me.</p><p>Another theory: maybe my definition of indifference was too <em>narrow</em>. Maybe a ton of the weekly pewsitters aren&#8217;t really involved in the religion, but are just going for something to do! (Not a very likely theory, but I was exploring the data.) So I tried redefining &#8220;indifferent&#8221; one more time. 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Even the few <em>extremely </em>devoted Catholic women who go to Mass twice a week or more (they&#8217;re more devout than I am, that&#8217;s for sure!) <em>still</em> have fertility that hovers around the national average. It seems religious practice just doesn&#8217;t seem to make that big of a difference in how many babies you have! Demographic and cultural factors dominate!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>LLM Disclosures: it had been many years since I did any heavy lifting with large survey sets, and I had never done it in Python, so I leaned heavily on GPT Codex in writing the Python scripts. Virtually all the code in this project was at the very least drafted, and for the most part completed, by Codex. Footnote 2 shows that I still did quite a lot of human wandering around and bumping into walls, though!</p><p>As always, I wrote the whole article, but, I sometimes enter a personal competition with GPT for the title. GPT picks a title, I pick a title, we send each title to a quarter of the mailing list, and whichever title wins becomes the official title for the article. At this writing, that competition hasn&#8217;t happened yet, so I don&#8217;t know who won or what the title of the article you just read was. The possible titles for this article were:</p><ul><li><p><strong>My title: &#8220;</strong>Fertility by Religion, James-Style&#8221;</p></li><li><p><strong>ChatGPT&#8217;s title: &#8220;</strong>I Fixed the Biggest Mistake in Religion Surveys (and It Barely Changed the Results)&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>Gotta admit, I think GPT might be on to something there. It&#8217;s a little clickbaity, true, but <em>my</em> title is just flaccid and inscrutable.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The One Thing It Ain't Is Turtles All The Way Down]]></title><description><![CDATA[Letters to My Daughters #6]]></description><link>https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/the-one-thing-it-aint-is-turtles</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/the-one-thing-it-aint-is-turtles</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[James J. Heaney]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2026 14:01:28 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EWYb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b3657fd-b4f2-4222-9668-e2138c9ff632_538x996.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><hr></div><p><em>&#8220;Letters to My Daughters&#8221; is a <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/roundup-letters-to-my-daughers">series of letters</a> I will send my children, when they are teenagers, about our (Catholic) religion. They are, of necessity, opinionated, and, in light of their audience, paint certain things as I truly see them, but without some of the nuances I would explore if aiming at the general public. Of course, your feedback and advice are welcome, or I wouldn&#8217;t be posting it in public.</em></p><div><hr></div><p>My dear daughter,</p><p>There we are! Now that we&#8217;ve <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/who-arent-i-why-arent-i-here">escaped the swamps</a> of Mechanical Materialism, I can finally show you some of the Quest, free and clear!</p><p>But&#8230; <em>where</em> do we start? When I set out on my own Quest, I spent about ten years wandering around, confused. There are so many possible starting points!</p><ul><li><p>Descartes: &#8220;I think; therefore, I am.&#8221; </p></li><li><p>Thales: &#8220;Everything is made of something, except the thing everything is made of.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>Kiri-kin-tha: &#8220;Nothing unreal exists.&#8221; </p></li><li><p>Hume: &#8220;All ideas are derived from impressions.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>Marx: &#8220;I&#8217;m bored at work.&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>If you choose to undertake the Quest yourself, this period of wandering around is inevitable. It&#8217;s also indispensable. Many of these starting points lead to dead ends, and several of them are flat-out wrong, but you learn a great deal from the encounters anyway. (Usually. The only thing I learned from reading Karl Marx is that Karl Marx was an angry baby.) There is no single, exclusively &#8220;correct&#8221; starting point, either. One true starting point might lead you to truth about ontology, while another might lead you to the truths of ethics. This is the joy of the Quest, should you choose it for yourself.</p><p>However, since I am trying to give you a short, directed tour here, I will suggest the starting point I&#8217;ve found most useful. It was given to me by your grandparents, and now I pass it on to you. This particular starting point comes from Plato&#8217;s greatest student, a Greek scientist-philosopher named Aristotle.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EWYb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b3657fd-b4f2-4222-9668-e2138c9ff632_538x996.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EWYb!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b3657fd-b4f2-4222-9668-e2138c9ff632_538x996.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EWYb!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b3657fd-b4f2-4222-9668-e2138c9ff632_538x996.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EWYb!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b3657fd-b4f2-4222-9668-e2138c9ff632_538x996.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EWYb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b3657fd-b4f2-4222-9668-e2138c9ff632_538x996.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EWYb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b3657fd-b4f2-4222-9668-e2138c9ff632_538x996.jpeg" width="478" height="884.9219330855019" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1b3657fd-b4f2-4222-9668-e2138c9ff632_538x996.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:996,&quot;width&quot;:538,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:478,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EWYb!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b3657fd-b4f2-4222-9668-e2138c9ff632_538x996.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EWYb!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b3657fd-b4f2-4222-9668-e2138c9ff632_538x996.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EWYb!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b3657fd-b4f2-4222-9668-e2138c9ff632_538x996.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EWYb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b3657fd-b4f2-4222-9668-e2138c9ff632_538x996.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>As a scientist, Aristotle loved studying the world around him, so many Aristotelian starting points are observations about the world. That includes our starting point for today:</p><ul><li><p>Aristotle: &#8220;Some things change.&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>This seems hard to deny. Lots of things do change! A rock in a river becomes smooth. Once a year, without fail, my face becomes sunburned. (These are both changes of quality.) Every day, you grow a little, and, every time I make hamburgers, they shrink in the frying pan. (Changes of size.) When we start a bonfire in the backyard with newspapers as kindling, we create fire and ash but destroy the paper. (These are changes of substance.) When I toss Sophie or Spider Pillow across the bedroom to you because you&#8217;ve forgotten them in some god-forsaken part of the house at first tucks, they are changing velocity (and, consequently, changing position as well).</p><p>Aristotle doesn&#8217;t <em>assume</em> that <em>everything</em> changes. He never says anything like that. He simply <em>observes</em> that <em>some</em> things change.</p><p>Aristotle noticed two things about these sorts of changes. These things are obvious, but Aristotle was the first to put them into words. That made Aristotle kind of a big deal! </p><p>(DAD&#8217;S PRO TIP: If you want to make bank in philosophy, just be the first person in history to write down something really obvious! You&#8217;ll die poor, because it's impossible to make bank in philosophy, but people might name things after you when you&#8217;re dead!)</p><p>The first thing Aristotle noticed about change was that, in each change, something that <em>possibly could be</em> becomes something that <em>actually is</em>. For example, before the change, my hamburger <em>could be</em> smaller, then it changes, then it <em>actually is</em> smaller. This process of <em>actualization</em> takes time.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> The amount of time varies. If you drop a rough rock in a river, it will take years for the river to make it really smooth. My annual sunburn happens in hours. When I toss your guys across the room, it takes only seconds for them to cross the floor&#8212;and only milliseconds for them to <em>stop</em> moving (a second change!) when they hit the bed. Nevertheless, in every change, the world starts with something <em>possible</em> and, after some amount of time, ends with something <em>actual</em>.</p><p>The second thing to notice is that each change requires a changer. I have pale Irish skin and poor discipline about reapplying, so I always have the <em>possibility</em> of sunburn, but my (possible) sunburn can&#8217;t cause itself. How could it? It doesn&#8217;t exist yet! A mere possibility cannot affect the world! Only <em>actual</em> things can affect the world. My possible sunburn is made actual (every single year) by actual ultraviolet radiation, emitted from the actual sun. (This is followed by Sabina telling me I should have put more sunscreen on at the safety break.)</p><p>This is true for all our examples. The rock we dropped in the river is made smooth by the (actual) river. The bonfire is lit by an (actual) burning match. Your guys are thrown by the transferred motion of my (actual) arm. The hamburgers are shrunk by (actual) heat, which causes (actual) moisture in the patty to boil off. You got tall enough to ride the roller coasters at Valleyfair because your (actual) bones got longer, because your (actual) bone cells reproduced.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rlCI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0bb71be8-731a-4444-baeb-111a37ac335b_717x919.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rlCI!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0bb71be8-731a-4444-baeb-111a37ac335b_717x919.png 424w, 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">I stole this from an anonymous Thomist meme because I liked the illustrations. Yes, Thomist memes exist if you look hard enough. Although, note well, while you <em>can&#8217;t</em> slip on potential ice, you <em>can </em>very much slip on actual water!</figcaption></figure></div><p>In Book VIII of his <em>Physics</em>, Aristotle works through several logical proofs to make sure that, yes, every single change requires at least one changer. These proofs are good fun, but also&#8230; duh!</p><p>This leads us to the question where things start to get interesting: since there are all these actual changers going around causing changes, what made the changers actual in the first place?</p><p>Logically, there are only two inescapable possibilities. Either a changer became actual because some other changer made it actual&#8230; or the changer never <em>became</em> actual, because it was <em>always</em> actual. There is no third option.</p><p>It seems like, usually, changers are made actual by some other changer. For example, you got taller because your bone cells started making more bone cells. What made that process actual? Growth hormones, which communicated with the cells to tell them to start making more cells. What made the hormones actual? The (actual) pituitary gland made them, because your (actual) nutritious diet included enough proteins to fuel production, using food grown by the (actual) sun and rain, and so on.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> For all of these changers, they were made actual by another changer. None of these changers was <em>always</em> actual.</p><p>However, this chain of changers cannot go backward <em>forever</em>. </p><p>Of course, there are some things that <em>can</em> go backward forever, like the list of all negative numbers, or the length of a line that you cut in half over and over again, or you guys when I tell you it&#8217;s time to get ready for bed every night.</p><p>However, a chain of changers, where each changer depends on the changer before it, <em>isn&#8217;t</em> one of those things that can go backward forever. If a chain of changers went backward forever, then there would be nothing to get the whole series started in the first place. It would be like a train with an infinite number of boxcars but no engine. If you saw such a train moving and asked, &#8220;What&#8217;s pulling the boxcars?&#8221; and Sir Topham Hatt said, &#8220;Each boxcar pulls the boxcar that&#8217;s behind it,&#8221; you would correctly reply, &#8220;Yes, but <em>what&#8217;s pulling the first boxcar?</em>&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> You know full well that there <em>must</em> be a first boxcar, and there <em>must</em> be something pulling it, because otherwise the train wouldn&#8217;t be moving <em>at all</em>.</p><p>Or, again, it would be like a line of dominoes extending backwards into unknown mists far in the distance. If you see the dominoes tumbling toward and past you, you know right away that, somewhere in that long chain of dominoes&#8212;even if the line is infinitely long&#8212;<em>something</em> caused one of the dominoes (maybe the first domino, if there is one, or maybe some other domino in the line) to fall over, strike the next domino, and begin the chain reaction. If nothing had made one of the dominoes fall over, then <em>no </em>dominoes would be falling, and you would not have seen the domino chain reaction fall past you.</p><p>It&#8217;s the same with all the other changes we&#8217;ve seen. Every change requires another changer, and, so far, every changer we&#8217;ve seen is only explained by yet <em>another</em> changer. Eventually, there has to have been something that started the whole chain going, or the domino line of changes we see in the world around us couldn&#8217;t be happening.</p><p>We are forced, then, to face the <em>other</em> possible explanation for a changer. As I said, logically, there are only two possibilities: if a changer didn&#8217;t become actual because of some other changer <em>making</em> it actual&#8230; then it must be the case that the changer never <em>became</em> actual, because it was <em>always</em> actual. There is still no third option. Aristotle realized that every single change we see in the world today can <em>only</em> be explained by something that has always been actual. When we see any change, either it is directly caused by something that has always been actual, or it is caused by some other changer. If it was caused by some other changer, then <em>that changer</em> must either be caused by something that has always been actual, too, and so on until&#8212;inevitably, inescapably&#8212;we arrive at some changer that has always been actual, an Unchanged Changer. Aristotle proved that at least one Unchanged Changer <em>must</em> have always been actual, as a bedrock logical certainty.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FfZ7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe887b3e-0f33-404e-8e14-d66b3a8f64bd_677x354.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FfZ7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe887b3e-0f33-404e-8e14-d66b3a8f64bd_677x354.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FfZ7!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe887b3e-0f33-404e-8e14-d66b3a8f64bd_677x354.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FfZ7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe887b3e-0f33-404e-8e14-d66b3a8f64bd_677x354.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FfZ7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe887b3e-0f33-404e-8e14-d66b3a8f64bd_677x354.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FfZ7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe887b3e-0f33-404e-8e14-d66b3a8f64bd_677x354.png" width="575" height="300.66469719350073" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/fe887b3e-0f33-404e-8e14-d66b3a8f64bd_677x354.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:354,&quot;width&quot;:677,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:575,&quot;bytes&quot;:350653,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/191553960?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe887b3e-0f33-404e-8e14-d66b3a8f64bd_677x354.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FfZ7!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe887b3e-0f33-404e-8e14-d66b3a8f64bd_677x354.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FfZ7!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe887b3e-0f33-404e-8e14-d66b3a8f64bd_677x354.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FfZ7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe887b3e-0f33-404e-8e14-d66b3a8f64bd_677x354.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FfZ7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe887b3e-0f33-404e-8e14-d66b3a8f64bd_677x354.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">This is also from the anonymous Thomist meme.</figcaption></figure></div><p>&#8220;Always&#8221; is a big word. We don&#8217;t know whether time had a beginning. Some physicists think yes, others no. If time has no beginning, then any Unchanged Changer must have been actual from all eternity. If time <em>does</em> have a beginning, then time itself has changed, and any Unchanged Changer must have been always actual before (and therefore beyond) time itself. Science and philosophy also cannot say whether the universe has always existed, or whether it has always been changing. (Aristotle thought yes.) We have <a href="https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/universe-timeless-before-big-bang/">no information</a> prior to the <a href="https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/how-universe-truly-begin/">final 10<sup>-32 </sup>seconds</a> of the <a href="https://youtu.be/CMSYv_Z4SI8?si=8xCQJZrPcFznW_7R">cosmic inflation period</a>, and it may be in principle impossible to ever find out. All we can say at this point is that, if the cosmos has always existed, any Unchanged Changer was part of it.</p><p>Now, you might be thinking, &#8220;Oh, that sounds like God. Is that God?&#8221; You might even be rolling your eyes&#8212;I can perfectly imagine your face from here, <em>years</em> in advance&#8212;and saying, &#8220;<em>Yes</em>, Dad, I <em>know</em> it&#8217;s God, they taught me this in <em>sixth grade </em>ugh you can stop trying to be so sneaky about it.&#8221;</p><p>True enough. We pay the big bucks for Catholic school so that you are exposed to these ideas early and often. Mrs. Quillan did a great job covering this in sixth-grade theology.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> However, that was the sixth-grade version. When you learned this argument, it ended here, with &#8220;&#8230;and the Unchanged Changer is God.&#8221; You simply have to take shortcuts when teaching sixth-graders philosophy. However, you&#8217;re older now, and I&#8217;m preparing you for the rest of your life, so we can&#8217;t take that shortcut today.</p><p>When I was in a ninth grade study hall period in the St. Thomas Academy library, I came across a book of collected readings in philosophy. In that book, I read a lecture by the mathematician Bertrand Russell called, &#8220;<a href="https://users.drew.edu/~jlenz/whynot.html">Why I Am Not A Christian</a>.&#8221; Now, you mainly know Bertrand Russell as <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ofnDdi-vfw">the inventor of Numberwang</a>, but he was a brilliant and amiable mathematician. He was also an atheist. In his lecture, he talks about the proof I have just given you:</p><blockquote><p>It is maintained that everything we see in this world has a cause, and as you go back in the chain of causes further and further you must come to a First Cause, and to that First Cause you give the name of God. [&#8230;But!] If everything must have a cause, then God must have a cause. If there can be anything without a cause, it may just as well be the world as God, so that there cannot be any validity in that argument. It is exactly of the same nature as the Hindu&#8217;s view, that the world rested upon an elephant and the elephant rested upon a tortoise; and when they said, &#8216;How about the tortoise?&#8217; the Indian said, &#8216;Suppose we change the subject.&#8217; The argument is really no better than that.</p></blockquote><p>When I was fourteen and read the whole lecture, these two points hit me hard:</p><ul><li><p>&#8220;If everything has a cause, God must have a cause.&#8221; (Thanks in part to this lecture, this objection is broadly known all over the world today as &#8220;turtles all the way down.&#8221;)</p></li><li><p>&#8220;If there can be anything without a cause, it may just as well be the world as God.&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>These points troubled me, and led me to abandon Aristotle&#8217;s unchanged-changer argument for several years. (I took refuge in St. Anselm, Pascal, and Descartes, who were also in that book&#8212;although I&#8217;m a bit embarrassed about it today&#8212;and in C.S. Lewis.) It was not until college that I started taking Aristotle seriously again, and it still took me months of reading to slowly become convinced he was right after all.</p><p>I hope, though, that you have already spotted the obvious hole in Russell&#8217;s first objection: Russell says that Aristotle&#8217;s argument claims that everything has a cause. That&#8217;s false! As I pointed out earlier, Aristotle&#8217;s argument simply observes that <em>some things change</em>, and <em>those changes</em> have a cause. He never assumes that <em>everything</em> has a cause. For Aristotle, things that <em>don&#8217;t</em> change don&#8217;t need causes. Russell has completely misstated this argument, to his loss! Unfortunately, I had been careless in studying this argument, so I missed Russell&#8217;s error completely. I spent <em>years</em> thinking a valid rebuttal to the Unchanged Changer was, &#8220;Oh, yeah? Well, who made the Unchanged Changer? It&#8217;s turtles all the way down!&#8221; If I&#8217;ve spared you that mistake, these letters are worth it for that alone.</p><p>The second objection, however, has more force. In fact, against the sixth-grade version, Russell is clearly correct. We have done <em>absolutely nothing</em> to show that the Unchanged Changer is God. </p><p>Indeed, Aristotle <em>himself</em> had no idea that the Unchanged Changer was God! Aristotle was a Greek pagan who lived 350 years before Christ. He probably never even <em>heard</em> of our God.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> That&#8217;s one of the things I admire so much about Aristotle: he tracked down the truth even without the benefit of revelation, with a mind unbiased by a monotheist upbringing.</p><p>Here are some of the <em>many </em>other things the Unchanged Changer could be:</p><ul><li><p>The universe itself</p></li><li><p>Some random chunk of matter&#8212;say, one small piece of fairy cake (as used in the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM0K4VODk8Q">Total Perspective Vortex</a>, before Zaphod Beeblebrox ate it)</p></li><li><p>The Big Bang itself</p></li><li><p>Zeus</p></li><li><p>The entire Greek pantheon (Zeus, Hera, Athena, Poseidon, the whole gang)</p></li><li><p>The Sun, worshipped as the prime creator power by several religions</p></li><li><p>A whole host of immaterial nameless omnipotent Gods outside the universe</p></li><li><p>Every single human mind could be its own Unchanged Changer. (Aristotle points out that his predecessor Anaximander taught exactly this.)</p></li></ul><p>In the sixth-grade version, you don&#8217;t rule out any of these things. We must.</p><p>Continuing to follow Aristotle (and his medieval heir, St. Thomas Aquinas) we will continue this adventure in the next letter.</p><p>Unchangingly,<br>Dad</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>De Civitate</em> is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;94832524-bfc7-4ce8-97a6-902a64b35923&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;Here are all installments so far in the Letters to My Daughters / Letters to a Growing Catholic series:&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:&quot;Read full story&quot;,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;md&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Roundup: Letters to My Daughers&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:1325032,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;James J. 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I blog at decivitate.substack.com.&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/41beb8c0-7588-452c-aa29-c4456d1f3e5d_293x293.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2026-04-13T06:05:22.016Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8d094e3b-9681-419e-b357-2c29777cec5a_899x491.png&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/roundup-letters-to-my-daughers&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:193941426,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:0,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:585169,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;De Civitate&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U6Ka!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb3402975-a951-4f1e-93b1-b4ea73860550_293x293.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Aristotle calls time &#8220;the number of change&#8221; or an &#8220;affection of change,&#8221; intimately linking change and time. <em>Physics</em> VIII.I, <a href="https://www.logicmuseum.com/wiki/Authors/Aristotle/physics/liber8#bk251b17">Bekker 251b19&#8211;23</a>. I&#8217;m mentioning this in a footnote to you readers, not to my daughters, because I think it is sometimes overlooked, which can lead the budding philosopher into trouble, particularly when he is drawn into some of the controversies we will explore in Footnote 2. Aquinas&#8217;s arguments do not necessarily require the change occurring over time. Aristotle&#8217;s do.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>At this point, some readers well-versed in cosmological arguments may fear that I am accidentally going off the rails. &#8220;Oh no!&#8221; they may say, &#8220;He is basing his argument on a causal series ordered <em>per accidens</em>, not <em>per se</em>!&#8221; That is true&#8212;in a sense. It is not an accident (haw haw).</p><p>For those <em>less</em> well-versed in cosmological arguments, I will fill you in on what the blazes I am talking about! </p><p>(Heads-up: this footnote is one for the philosophers, and I won&#8217;t spare the horses. This footnote has section headers. This footnote has its own <em>internal</em> footnotes! (These are marked by asterisks and can be found by doing a ctrl-F search for the word &#8220;Footfootnote.&#8221;) A footnote with footnotes is not going to be a short read. This is your only warning!)</p><h3>Two Kinds of Causation</h3><p>The medieval Scholastics identified two types of causal series: <em>per se</em> (&#8220;essential&#8221;) and <em>per accidens </em>(&#8220;accidental&#8221;). In a <em>per se</em> series, the causal activity of each member of the series (other than the first) is essentially (not accidentally) dependent on the causal activity of a prior member. All other causal chains are <em>per accidens</em>, in which members of the series depend on prior members only accidentally. </p><p>Of course, this is baffling abstract jargon, so the Thomist (or Scotist) instructor now explains via illustration. The illustration usually involves juxtaposing a linear series of loosely connected changes preceding backward in time (a <em>per accidens</em> series) <em>versus</em> a series of closely connected changes happening <em>right now at this very moment </em>(one form of <em>per se </em>series).</p><h4>Causal Series <em>Per Accidens</em></h4><p>Your instructor might start with the classic example of the builder and his collection of hammers. At first, the builder uses one hammer, dubbed hammer1, to build a wall. Then, hammer1 breaks, so the builder goes and grabs another, hammer2, and gets back to work. Then hammer2 breaks, so the builder uses hammer3, and so on until (let&#8217;s say) hammer1337, at which point the builder has exhausted the hammer supply at Menard&#8217;s and has to take a few weeks off. (Apparently hammers broke a lot in the thirteenth century.) </p><p><em>In a sense</em>, hammer1 caused the builder to use hammer2 (by breaking), and hammer2 caused the builder to use hammer3. <em>In a sense</em>, then, this forms a linear, causal series of hammers over time: Hammer1 &#8594; Hammer2 &#8594; Hammer3&#8230; &#8594; Hammer1337. However, hammer1 did not actually impart anything (causally speaking), to the builder or to hammer2, much less to hammer42. The fact that hammer2 was used before hammer807 is merely accidental. None of the hammers depends on any other hammer; the activity of each depends solely on the builder. That makes the series of hammers a <em>per accidens</em> causal series. (By contrast, the series Builder &#8594; Hammer &#8594; Nail &#8594; Wall is a <em>per se</em> causal series, but we&#8217;ll get to that.)</p><p>Alternatively, consider a certain ecosystem, where insects, spiders, and mammals live in perfect ecological balance. The insects eat plants, the spiders eat the insects, and the mammals eat the spiders. Ten million years later, a novel disease arises, fatal to spiders. Ten million years after that, the last spider succumbs to the disease, and both spiders and disease go extinct. Ten million years later, the insect population has exploded (because there&#8217;s no more predators) and the mammals go extinct. (The mammals tried to live on plants as an alternative food source, but were gradually crowded out by the growing insect population eating those same plants.) Ten million years later, an invasive bird species enters the ecosystem. The birds mostly eat plants, but there are few plants (the bugs eat most of them) and lots of bugs. Over the next ten million years, the birds evolve to eat insects, and the ecosystem finally finds a new balance. </p><p><em>In a sense</em>, the disease is the cause of the birds evolving an ability to eat insects. However, the disease plays no <em>direct</em> causal role in the birds&#8217; evolution. The disease didn&#8217;t infect the birds and mutate their genes. (It couldn&#8217;t! The disease died out twenty million years before the birds started evolving!) Nor did the disease pass anything on to the insects that the insects then passed on to the birds. All the disease did was create certain new conditions, which, <em>accidentally</em>, favored the birds, who <em>accidentally</em> (at least from the perspective of this causal chain), wandered into the ecosystem because the disease had (again accidentally) caused the extinction of the predator mammals. The final outcome <em>probably </em>would not have happened without the disease, but it <em>could</em> have, through some alternative causal mechanism. Either way, the disease&#8217;s causal power played no role in subsequent cause-effect pairs in this ecosystem.</p><h4>Causal Series <em>Per Se</em></h4><p>The classic example of a <em>per se</em> causal series is a man&#8217;s hand holding a stick, which the hand uses to push a stone, which, in turn, pushes a leaf. Here, the leaf&#8217;s movement depends <em>directly</em> on the stone&#8217;s movement, which depends <em>directly</em> on the stick&#8217;s movement, which depends <em>directly</em> on the hand&#8217;s movement (which depends directly on certain changes in the arm muscles, and so on). The actual transmission of causal power through this chain from its first member to its last marks it off as a <em>per se</em> causal chain. Notice, too, how, in this example, everything is happening <em>simultaneously</em>. It&#8217;s not one damned thing after another. The hand is acting <em>right now, in this moment</em> to move the leaf, through a chain.</p><p>As I said, this <em>simultaneity</em> is a very useful way for instructors to force learners to grasp the difference between <em>per se </em>and <em>per accidens</em> causal series.* However, simultaneity is not essential. To illustrate, another example:</p><p>There is ice cream in my freezer. It is ice cream <em>right now, at this moment</em> because it is frozen. It is frozen because <em>right now, at this moment</em>, the air in the freezer is quite cold, which is true <em>right now</em> because of the refrigeration coil pulling heat out of the icebox, which is happening <em>right now</em> because its compressor is running on electricity, which is happening <em>right now</em> because electricity is flowing freely over the grid, which it&#8217;s doing <em>right now</em> because there&#8217;s some turbine mid-spin at the power plant in Monticello, MN <em>right now</em> which is producing the charge, which which is spinning because of steam from an ongoing nuclear reaction happening <em>right now, </em>and so on.</p><p>However, when we look more closely, we see that this is <em>not</em> entirely simultaneous. The electricity generated at <em>this very instant</em> in Monticello is not the electricity actually consumed by my compressor, since electricity only travels over the grid at the speed of light. The electricity consumed by my compressor <em>now</em> was generated ~0.00028 seconds ago. Those joules of electricity, once on the grid, no longer have any <em>current</em> (haw haw) causal dependence on the nuclear reaction. When we look closely, we can see delays of this sort at every step of transmission along the causal chain. Often, those delays are measured (as here) in microseconds, like the delay between the brain telling the hand to move the stick and the hand actually doing so. </p><p>However, sometimes, the delays are much longer. Take the case of the starlight from distant suns reflecting off telescope mirrors to create a photographic image. The stars that generated that light may have died out millions of years ago, but the light already in transit, no longer dependent on the generative power of the star, may have been striking us since before mammals evolved, and may continue to reach our surface until long after humanity has gone extinct&#8212;all without an extant causal generator. This causal chain Star &#8594; Starlight &#8594; Mirror &#8594; Photograph is nevertheless an example of a <em>per se</em> causal series (even after Star dies), for two closely related (but, as we will see later on,<em> </em>not <em>quite </em>congruent) reasons:</p><ol><li><p>Each subsequent member of the chain is dependent on its cause as such, not accidentally (like the builder with his hammers).</p></li><li><p>If any prior member of the chain ceases its causal activity, all subsequent effects will cease&#8212;not necessarily instantly, not even necessarily within the timescale of human civilization, but <em>eventually</em>.</p></li></ol><h4>A High-Stakes Distinction</h4><p>The distinction between causal series <em>per se</em> and <em>per accidens</em> is very important in the argument we are making today, because Aristotle, the Thomists, and I all argue that an infinite regress is impossible in a causal series <em>per se</em>&#8212;but we all <em>accept</em> that an infinite regress is theoretically possible in a causal series <em>per accidens</em>. </p><p>In fact, Aristotle positively <em>affirms</em> that the world is both eternal and eternally in motion, which practically entails infinite causal series <em>per accidens</em>. So when Aristotle, Aquinas, and I make arguments about the impossibility of infinite regress in causal series (as I am indeed about to do in this letter), it is <em>critically important</em> for us to be talking about <em>per se </em>causal series, not <em>per accidens</em> causal series.**</p><h3>The Thomistic Tradition&#8217;s Pure <em>Per Se</em></h3><p>In pursuit of the purest of pure <em>per se</em> causal series, as far as possible from any conceivable allegation of reliance on a <em>per accidens </em>series (and for other reasons), Thomism as a tradition has generally construed Thomas Aquinas&#8217;s argument from motion (which is based on Aristotle&#8217;s argument from motion) as illuminating a chain of <em>formal </em>and <em>material</em> causes that exist <em>in this very moment</em>, and which explain the fact that anything continues in existence from one instant to the next. Each cause in this chain is truly simultaneous with its effect, and exhibits total dependence on each prior member. This form of the argument does not just prove a First Unmoved Mover, but a whole First Cause of Being, with the entire Doctrine of Divine Conservation thrown in as a side dish! Edward Feser sets out the premises of this &#8220;reconstructed&#8221; Thomist form of the argument from motion in his 2011 paper for the <em>ACPQ </em>(my very favorite philosophy journal)<em>, &#8220;</em><a href="https://isidore.co/misc/Res%20pro%20Deo/American%20Catholic%20Philosophical%20Quarterly/Existential%20Inertia%20(Feser;%20ACPQ).pdf">Existential Inertia and the Five Ways</a>&#8221;:</p><ol><li><p>That the actualization of potency is a real feature of the world follows from the occurrence of the events we know of via sensory experience. </p></li><li><p>The occurrence of any event <em><strong>E</strong></em> presupposes the operation of a substance. </p></li><li><p>The existence of any natural substance <em><strong>S</strong></em> at any given moment presupposes the concurrent actualization of a potency. </p></li><li><p>No mere potency can actualize a potency; only something actual can do so. </p></li><li><p>So any actualizer <em><strong>A</strong></em> of <em><strong>S</strong></em>&#8217;s current existence must itself be actual. </p></li><li><p><em>A</em>&#8217;s own existence at the moment it actualizes <em><strong>S</strong></em> itself presupposes either (a) the concurrent actualization of a further potency or (b) <em><strong>A</strong></em>&#8217;s being purely actual.</p></li><li><p>If <em><strong>A</strong></em>&#8217;s existence at the moment it actualizes <em><strong>S</strong></em> presupposes the concurrent actualization of a further potency, then there exists a regress of concurrent actualizers that is either infinite or terminates in a purely actual actualizer. </p></li><li><p>But such a regress of concurrent actualizers would constitute a causal series ordered <em>per se</em>, and such a series cannot regress infinitely. </p></li><li><p>So either <em><strong>A</strong></em> itself is purely actual or there is a purely actual actualizer which terminates the regress of concurrent actualizers. </p></li><li><p>So the occurrence of <em><strong>E</strong></em> and thus the existence of <em><strong>S</strong></em> at any given moment presupposes the existence of a purely actual actualizer.</p></li></ol><p>The example Feser gives (in his <em>Five Proofs of the Existence of God</em>, p22) is coffee: coffee is composed mostly of water. Water only exists insofar as the potentials of oxygen and hydrogen are actualized <em>right now</em>&#8230; and so on down a chain: (coffee &#8594;) water &#8594; H2O chemical bonds &#8594; hydrogen + oxygen atoms &#8594; atomic structure &#8594; subatomic particles &#8594; [&#8230;?] &#8594; some Purely Actual Actualizer.</p><p>Feser is hardly out over his skis. Feser is simply putting down on paper (more or less) how every prominent Thomist of the past century presents the First and/or Second Way: F.C. Copleston, Etienne Gilson, both of my parents, Fr. Roland Teske S.J., Dennis McInerny, and more besides. (Feser has an incomplete list in footnote 16.)</p><p>Moreover, for the record, the argument strikes me as valid and sound. Aside from some reservations about Premises #3 and #6b (both of which, my parents tell me, will be salved if I read <em>De Ente et Essentia</em>), I have no objection to the argument. I think the argument requires a pretty big pre-existing Scholastic metaphysical apparatus before it can go through, which makes it both harder to defend and harder to explain (especially when explaining God to a child), but I admire this argument&#8217;s elegance and its purity. Once it&#8217;s gone through, it brings with it rather strong claims about the nature of the Purely Actual Actualizer for free, which is very useful later on.</p><h3>Aristotle&#8217;s Impure <em>Per Se</em></h3><p>Nevertheless, one is within his rights to notice that, although this &#8220;reconstructed&#8221; argument of Thomistic tradition can be coaxed into fitting the text of Aquinas&#8217;s First Way in the <em><a href="https://www.newadvent.org/summa/1002.htm#article3">Summa Theologiae</a></em>, Aquinas&#8217;s argument in the <em>Summa Contra Gentiles</em> is expressly based on Aristotle&#8217;s argument in <em>Physics </em>VIII&#8212;and this &#8220;reconstructed&#8221; argument bears little resemblance to the argument Aristotle makes there, an argument that is pretty clearly built around normal, everyday, available-to-the-senses causal chains like &#8220;wind moves stone into tree and tree falls down&#8221;. </p><p>Aristotle does not use these as mere analogies for how the tree itself continues in being from moment to moment thanks to an ongoing actualization at each &#8220;layer&#8221; of its material and formal causes. Aristotle <em>literally means</em> that the causal chain runs Tree Falls Down &#8592; Stone Hits Tree &#8592; Wind Blows Stone &#8592; Wind Stirred Up by the Spinning of Heavenly Bodies &#8592; Heavenly Bodies Spun by Unmoved Mover, who is imagined to be sitting sort of just beyond the outermost sphere of stars, right at the circumference of the universe, spinning the universe in a circle like a cook stirring a pot of pasta water. </p><p>Aristotle is <em>deadly</em> serious about this. Aristotle spends a large chunk of <em>Physics VIII</em> arguing that &#8220;locomotion is the primary motion.&#8221; He spends <em>all</em> of chapters 8 and 9 elaborately arguing that the Unstirred Stirrer must be stirring with specifically <em>circular</em> locomotion, not <em>rectilinear</em> locomotion. (Of course, the Unstirred Stirrer does not stir with, like, a giant cosmic spoon; it cannot, itself, move. Instead, it stirs the celestial spheres &#8220;<a href="https://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/metaphysics.12.xii.html">as being loved</a>.&#8221;)</p><p>Now, I&#8217;ve made Aristotle&#8217;s argument sound rather funny, but don&#8217;t laugh <em>too</em> hard, because, outdated science aside, that&#8217;s more or less the argument I plan to make today. Aquinas, too, took Aristotle extremely seriously. Whether or not St. Thomas <em>intended</em> to grow this rather straightforward argument into a metaphysically purer argument for Divine Conservation (as the Thomist tradition has done), I can&#8217;t say, but I certainly don&#8217;t think Aquinas considered Aristotle&#8217;s more obvious approach invalid.</p><h3>Why This Footnote is Necessary</h3><p>There is a certain meme in certain corners of the Internet that Feser&#8217;s reconstructed argument, above, is the only sound argument from motion, the only Thomistic argument from motion, and the only Aristotelian argument from motion, because that argument alone relies on only the purest, absolutely simultaneous, locally-sourced, pasture-raised, <a href="https://breakingbad.fandom.com/wiki/Blue_Sky">blue-meth-quality</a> <em>per se</em> causal series. These are very helpful people who just want you to make the best possible argument, and will assume you are making an innocent mistake if you make a different argument from motion, which they will then try to correct. (I know, because I have been this person once or twice!) </p><p>In this edition of <em>Letters to My Daughters, </em>I build my argument around the casual chain Bone Growth &#8592; Cell Division &#8592; Growth Hormone &#8592; Pituitary Gland &#8592; Nutrition &#8592; Food &#8592; The Sun and so on, a series that clearly isn&#8217;t simultaneous in the same way Feser&#8217;s reconstructed argument is. Shortly thereafter, I use an example of a falling domino line, an example that is <a href="https://strangenotions.com/answering-two-objections-to-aquinas/">explicitly criticized</a> in <a href="https://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2011/07/first-without-second.html">some circles</a>. I therefore expected a well-meaning Thomist or two to pop up in the comments to try to help me.</p><p>So let me reassure such Thomists: maybe you&#8217;re right that yours is the only sound argument from motion, and I can&#8217;t say whether it&#8217;s the only Thomistic argument from motion, but it certainly isn&#8217;t the only Aristotelian argument from motion. If I am making a mistake here, it&#8217;s anything but innocent!</p><p>In the balance of this footnote, I will argue against the factors that have led so many well-meaning Thomists to think that my bone growth argument is unsound.</p><h3>Haldane&#8217;s Reviewer Problem</h3><p>In <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Atheism-Theism-J-C-Smart/dp/0631232591">Atheism and Theism</a></em> (Smart &amp; Haldane, 2002, pp116-), the prominent Thomist<em> </em>John Haldane provides a useful example of a <em>per se </em>causal series, which I will quote at length because, frankly, this far into the footnote, you&#8217;re already pot-committed: </p><blockquote><p>A few years ago, in keeping with general developments throughout the British education system, the University of St. Andrews decided to introduce a staff appraisal scheme. This was to involve a system of &#8216;progress review&#8217; according to which every member of the university would periodically be reviewed by a colleague. A draft was circulated setting out the various arrangements for the introduction of the proposed scheme. It included a section on the role and responsibilities of reviewers, from which I quote:</p><p>&#8220;The reviews of colleagues who have not been reviewed previously but are to act as reviewers will also have to be arranged&#8230; so that all reviewers can be reviewed before they review others.&#8221;</p><p>The well-intentioned point was that no staff should act as reviewers who had not themselves already been subject to the review process. Additionally the system was to be self-contained: no one&#8217;s reviewed status could result from having been reviewed out[side] the university. &#8230;If no one could conduct a review unless and until he or she had been reviewed, and that could only derive from within the system, then the process could not begin.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vpWX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F31131181-003d-49ce-af28-3c327ef9e54e_773x567.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vpWX!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F31131181-003d-49ce-af28-3c327ef9e54e_773x567.png 424w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">&#8220;Do you have any idea of who goes first?&#8221;</figcaption></figure></div><p>&#8230;I chose a circular seating arrangement at an initial review to highlight the problem. Suppose, however, that I had arranged the figures in a line receding into the distance, each awaiting review by his predecessor. That would have diminished the effect [of my cartoon] but would it have diminished the problem? Clearly not if the line were finite, since if the member nearest had been reviewed then given the rubric there would have to be a first reviewer (however that had been effected). Assume, though, that the review scheme was already in existence and had been for as long as the university has existed. St Andrews received its Papal Seal in 1413, so on this assumption those currently reviewing would depend in this respect on predecessors no longer existing&#8212;still there would have to have been a first reviewer (deemed such by Pope Benedict XIII, say). Suppose, however, that the university has always existed (and perhaps always will) with each reviewer having been reviewed by a predecessor and reviewing a successor <em>ad infinitum</em>. Given these assumptions, can one still argue that there must be a first cause of the series? &#8230;For unless there was a reviewer who had not been reviewed&#8212;an originating source of the causal power to review&#8212;how could the series exist?</p><p>The issue is not dealt with by adverting to mathematical infinities. Suppose we draw a section of the number line and just identify some point as -1, then there is a prior point -2, and its predecessor -3, and so on. That is not in dispute; what is contested is that any such infinite series could be one of <em>intrinsic</em> causal dependence. Here we need to distinguish between a series of items the members of which are, merely as it happened, causally related to one another, and a series whose members are intrinsically ordered as cause and effect. To adopt Aquinas&#8217;s scholastic terminology, the first is a causal series <em>per accidens</em> (coincidentally), the second a causal series <em>per se</em> (as such). We can (perhaps) imagine objects, marked off by points in the number line and receding to infinity, among which there are causal relations; but this is not an intrinsic causal series. Contrast this with the situation in which each effect is an effect of its predecessor and a cause of its successor: but for object -2, object -1 would not be, and but for object -3, object -2 would not be, etc. Here it is essential to any item&#8217;s being a cause that it is also an effect; but it is not necessary that they be temporally ordered, for in this case the terms &#8220;predecessor&#8221; and &#8220;successor&#8221; are not being used in an essentially temporal way. That is what it means to speak of a &#8220;<em>per se</em> causal series.&#8221; Since the existence <em>qua</em> cause of any item is derived from the causality of a predecessor there has to be a source of ultimate causal power from out[side] the series of dependent causes&#8212;an ultimate and non-dependent cause.</p></blockquote><p>Haldane then begins the customary rant about David Hume, which, in this case, runs four well-deserved pages.</p><p>I discovered this nifty <em>per se</em> causal series courtesy of Caleb Cohoe&#8217;s excellent little 2013 paper, &#8220;<a href="https://philarchive.org/rec/COHTMB">There Must Be A First: Why Thomas Aquinas Rejects Infinite, Essentially Ordered Causal Series</a>,&#8221; which uses Haldane&#8217;s Reviewer Problem as an example of a <em>per se </em>causal series.</p><h3>An Incongruence</h3><p>I&#8217;ve taken pains explaining Haldane&#8217;s Reviewer Problem because I have said that <em>per se</em> causal series are so-called for two reasons: </p><ol><li><p>Each subsequent member of the chain is dependent on its cause as such, not accidentally (like the builder with his hammers).</p></li><li><p>If any prior member of the chain ceases its causal activity, all subsequent effects will cease&#8212;not necessarily instantly, not even necessarily within the timescale of human civilization, but <em>eventually</em>.</p></li></ol><p>I have also said that these reasons are not <em>quite</em> congruent&#8212;and here we have an example of the incongruence.</p><p>Haldane&#8217;s Reviewer Problem poses an example of a <em>per se</em> causal series where each subsequent member of the chain is dependent on its cause as such, but the effects will <em>not</em> cease if prior members of the causal chain cease to exist. If some Prime Reviewer in 1413 (or whenever) reviews a faculty member (granting that faculty member the power to review), the reviewed faculty member will retain the power to review even if, two seconds later, the Prime Reviewer unexpectedly drops dead of myxomatosis. Put another way, <strong>the Prime Reviewer&#8217;s continued existence or non-existence is irrelevant to the reviewed faculty member&#8217;s exercise of that power</strong>. But wait!</p><p>Edward Feser, in chapter 3 of his <em>Aquinas: A Beginner&#8217;s Guide</em>, gives an example of what he considers a quintessential <em>per accidens </em>series:</p><blockquote><p>On the one hand, there are causal series ordered <em>per accidens</em> or &#8220;accidentally,&#8221; in the sense that the causal activity of any particular member of the series is not essentially dependent on that of any prior member of the series. Take, for example, the series consisting of Abraham begetting Isaac, Isaac begetting Jacob, and Jacob begetting Joseph. Once he has himself been begotten by Abraham (and then grows to maturity, of course), Isaac is fully capable of begetting Jacob on his own, even if Abraham dies in the meantime. It is true that he would not have existed had Abraham not begotten him, but the point is that once Isaac exists he has the power to beget a son all by himself, and <strong>Abraham&#8217;s continued existence or non-existence is irrelevant to his exercise of that power</strong>. The same is true of Jacob with respect to both Abraham and Isaac, and of Joseph with respect to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Given that we are considering them as a series of begetters specifically, each member is independent of the others as far as its causal powers are concerned.</p></blockquote><p>It seems, then, that Haldane&#8217;s Reviewer Problem qualifies as a <em>per se</em> causal series on <em>some</em> definitions of a <em>per se</em> causal series&#8230; but, on others, it does not. If non-accidental causal dependence suffices, it counts. If some form of simultaneity is required, it doesn&#8217;t. This is crucial, remember, because only a <em>per se</em> causal series is immune to infinite regress. </p><p>Perhaps Feser and Haldane (longtime comrades in the school of Analytical Thomism) are aware of their subtle disagreement. Perhaps it has already been discussed in the literature. Perhaps I am just very confused! But, to me, this subtle (apparent) difference of opinion was a revelation, and I know I&#8217;m not the only person on the Internet who will find it so. </p><p>Feser&#8217;s view that a <em>per se</em> causal series must feature some degree of simultaneity (a view that seems widely shared among modern Thomists) is <em>the</em> reason my argument from motion is said to fail. In this letter, I rely on a causal chain (the bone growth example) that extends backwards in time, without any kind of simultaneity. I&#8217;ve admitted this is a less-pure &#8220;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAgkuoP2Qzk">off-brand cola</a>&#8221; <em>per se</em> causal series, but Feser&#8217;s (quite popular) view is that it isn&#8217;t a <em>per se</em> causal series at all, but <em>per accidens</em>. If it&#8217;s <em>per accidens</em>, it can regress to infinity without contradiction, and my whole argument falls apart. Haldane appears to disagree with Feser.</p><p>Feser, however, has an advantage: it sure looks like Aquinas agrees with him!</p><blockquote><p>&#8230;it is accidental to this particular man as generator to be generated by another man; for he generates as a man, and not as the son of another man. For all men generating hold one grade in efficient causes&#8212;viz. the grade of a particular generator. Hence it is not impossible for a man to be generated by man to infinity; but such a thing would be impossible if the generation of this man depended upon this man, and on an elementary body, and on the sun, and so on to infinity. </p><p>&#8212;<em>Summa Theologiae</em>, <a href="https://www.newadvent.org/summa/1046.htm#article2">Prima Pars, Q46, A2</a>, reply objection 7</p></blockquote><p>On my view, and (it seems to me) on Haldane&#8217;s view, human beings creating other human beings is a <em>per se</em> series. </p><p>Here, Aquinas says that it isn&#8217;t, that begetting children is <em>per accidens</em>, which agrees with Feser.***</p><h3>Cross-Examining the Angelic Doctor</h3><p>One possible response to this is that we are Thomists, not mere Thomas-scholars. Our primary concern is the Truth, not exegesis of a dead man&#8212;even a man as wise as Thomas Aquinas. (I stole this from <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_First_Glance_at_St_Thomas_Aquinas/cWMFDgAAQBAJ?hl=en&amp;gbpv=1">Ralph McInerny</a>.) If Aquinas is wrong, he&#8217;s wrong! Oh well! It happens to everybody.****</p><p>I don&#8217;t know whether Haldane would say this, but I will: Aquinas is wrong to say that a father begetting a father is a <em>per accidens</em> causal series that can regress to infinity. It cannot regress to infinity, so it is a <em>per se</em> causal series, because each member of the series depends on the causal activity of the previous member of the series as such, not accidentally. </p><p>The act of conceiving a woman in her mother&#8217;s womb passes on to that woman the causal power to conceive a daughter in her own womb (among other causal powers). It is true that the daughter who is trying to conceive does not need any ongoing activity from her mother in order to achieve conception. Indeed, the mother does not even need to be alive for her daughter to conceive! This means, admittedly, that the moms-beget-moms causal series is less of a &#8220;pure&#8221; <em>per se</em> causal series than the chain of instantaneously-activated matter and form favored by modern Thomists. Nevertheless, the arguments against infinite regress still go through just fine. </p><p>To return to our examples from earlier: the daughter, when she performs the act of conceiving her mother&#8217;s grandchild, more closely resembles the starlight emitted from a dead sun than she resembles one of the hammers in the builder&#8217;s collection, or the bird evolving to eat insects. Haldane, I believe, has already shown this in the excerpt I quoted above (and in surrounding material). I intend to show it to my daughters, in simple language, in the next part of this letter. To the extent that Aquinas disagrees with me, I believe that St. Thomas Aquinas is wrong.</p><p>You may think that doesn&#8217;t sound very likely. What are the odds that I&#8217;m right about something when <em>St. Thomas Aquinas</em> says the opposite?</p><p>I answer that: it depends on the topic. Thomas Aquinas is rarely wrong on philosophical principles, which never change. That&#8217;s why we still pay so much attention to him! However, Thomas Aquinas is <em>often</em> wrong on <em>scientific</em> claims, because he lived in the thirteenth century, and the body of scientific knowledge has changed <em>a lot</em> in eight hundred years. There&#8217;s a whole cottage industry in bringing Aquinas&#8217;s principles to bear on modern knowledge!</p><p>I wish to suggest today that Aquinas claimed begetting was a <em>per accidens</em> causal series because Aquinas made a <em>scientific</em>, rather than a <em>philosophical,</em> error. I stand by my claim that Aquinas is mistaken either way, but I like my odds of prevailing a lot better if our disagreement is scientific.</p><h3>Medieval Reproductive Biology</h3><p>It is important to remember that Aquinas&#8217;s understanding of embryogenesis was <em>radically</em> different from our own. Aquinas believed that, after copulation, the semen encountered menstrual blood. Rather than fusing together, the semen enveloped the menstrual blood and began to reorganize its matter, similar to the way a cucumber in brine becomes pickled or (as Aristotle <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/On_the_Generation_of_Animals/Book_II#:~:text=the%20case%20resembles%20that%20of%20the%20fig">put it</a>) the way milk in rennet becomes curdled. (The whole body of the eventual infant is composed of reorganized menstrual blood, with no material contribution from the man.) At the first stage of development, the semen (exercising the generative power of the father&#8217;s soul, albeit remotely) organizes the blood into a sort of an organless, nutritive paste. Then the semen destroys this paste by building enough organs to replace it with a primitive animal. At this point, the semen &#8220;<a href="https://www.logicmuseum.com/wiki/Authors/Thomas_Aquinas/Summa_Theologiae/Part_I/Q118#q118a1ad4">is dissolved</a>&#8221; and its active principle &#8220;ceases to exist,&#8221; as the animal-entity takes over development&#8230; at least until God kills the animal and infuses its corpse with a rational soul instead. (A convenient overview with extensive quotations is given by Stephen Heaney (some relation) in, &#8220;<a href="https://www.scribd.com/document/993042762/TheThomist-AquinasAndThePresenceOfTheHumanRationalSoulInTheEarlyEmbryo?secret_password=wIRFeWzPCFsfWvxM56oj">Aquinas and the Presence of the Human Rational Soul in the Early Embryo</a>&#8221;, which I have paraphrased quite liberally.) </p><p>You may wonder how Aquinas thought children ended up with traits different from their parents, since he had no concept of genetic inheritance. Astrology, of course! While taking a dim view of divination or blaming free choices on the stars, Aquinas earnestly defended the view that a child&#8217;s sex and other traits may be influenced by the constellation under which he was born (<em>Summa Theologiae </em><a href="https://www.newadvent.org/summa/1115.htm#article3">I.115.3</a>, obj. 3 and reply), since the locomotion and heat of the celestial spheres stirred up and affected all other changes under heaven (insofar as inferior matter was disposed to receive it). These heavenly changes could affect what I will dub the &#8220;embryonic brining process,&#8221; the same way hot weather could affect a cheese-curdling process. This led Aquinas (at <a href="https://www.newadvent.org/summa/1076.htm#article1">ST I.76.1</a> ad. 1) to affirm Aristotle&#8217;s conclusion that &#8220;man and the sun generate man,&#8221; not the human species alone. Hence that odd last clause in Aquinas&#8217;s argument about parental causal series:</p><blockquote><p>&#8230;but such a thing would be impossible if the generation of this man depended upon this man, and on an elementary body, and on the sun, and so on to infinity.</p></blockquote><p>I emphasize that this bizarre-sounding embryology was entirely reasonable, given scientific knowledge of the time! It was, however, wrong. </p><p>We now know that the generation of human beings from copulation is far more immediate, and depends far more on the innate powers within semen and (surprise!) ovum, than Aquinas could have imagined. Aquinas says that, when a man generates, he &#8220;generates as a man, and not as the son of another man.&#8221; <em>Sed contra</em>, we now know that, in fact, when my mother generated me, she did so <em>precisely</em> as the daughter of her mother. I was not formed out of some generic lump of blood by semen-brine and the sun. My mother passed to me the genes and very particular blood of Merc Maloney (her mother) and Mayme Lynch (her mother) and Kate Durkin (her mother). When I, in turn, generated my children, I did so precisely as the son of Anne, grandson of Merc, great-great-grandson of Kate, and my wife simultaneously generated as the daughter of her mother and father. </p><p>We now know, as Aquinas did not, that this sperm and ovum bearing this genetic material fused together immediately on contact, destroying themselves in the process and leading, by a quick (arguably instant) process of generation, to a new organism, Sabina Rose. My seed did not hang around as a brining solution for weeks and then dissipate, its vital force expended. It underwent substantial change with the ovum and became, directly, my daughter. Sabina may, someday, generate from our blood. If she does, she will have us to thank for it, since we transmitted our own inherited generative causal power to her. (Aquinas largely denied inheritance.) Her creation of my grandchildren will depend, in part, on me&#8212;not accidentally, but essentially&#8212;even if I am dead at the time.</p><p>I like to think that, upon learning these facts, Aquinas would agree with me that begetting children is a <em>per se</em> causal series (which must therefore have a first member).  Still, he might not. If St. Thomas still disagreed with me after all that, then I would contend that Aquinas is mistaken.</p><p>Okay, enough about Aquinas&#8217;s theory of reproduction. I went through this long digression only to suggest that Aquinas (if given updated scientific knowledge) might agree with my main argument in this footnote. That argument was:</p><h3>Bring Us Home, John</h3><p>There are certain causal series that cannot regress to infinity, even though the termination of prior members in the chain does not result in the cessation of subsequent members, because they are (nevertheless) <em>per se</em> causal series. Examples include Haldane&#8217;s Reviewer Problem, my bone growth example in this letter, and parents begetting children.</p><p>In making this claim, I do nothing at all to disparage the instantaneous divine conservation argument advanced by Edward Feser and many other Thomists, for whom my respect is as endless as a causal series with no first member. If my position is admitted, the divine conservation version of the argument still works just as well as it does today. It remains the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TBbuIanjrI">blue-meth standard</a> of Thomism.</p><p>My claim is merely that other versions of the argument (like Haldane&#8217;s) <em>also</em> succeed. Since they succeed, there are occasions where it is appropriate to use them in lieu of the divine-conservation version.</p><p>&#8230;like this letter. We now return to our regularly scheduled <em>Letter to My Daughter</em> and its <em>per se</em> causal series in progress.</p><div><hr></div><p>*FOOTFOOTNOTE 1: Emphasizing the simultaneity of <em>per se</em> causal series is also&#8212;and this is no small thing&#8212;a very useful way to poke a fork in David Hume&#8217;s eye. Hume believed that <em>all</em> causes were temporally prior to their effects, made kind of a big deal about it, broke not just metaphysics but science in the process, and then tried to walk away whistling innocently. <em>Many</em> Thomist accounts of <em>per se</em> causal series involve a two-page rant about David Hume, with varying degrees of rudeness. Feisty Feser does it, naturally, but so does the (scrupulously reserved) &#8220;Simple-Minded Freddy&#8221; Copleston, and John Haldane even manages to do it without bringing up simultaneity in the first place! It is sometimes remarked that, for Thomists, hating Descartes is a terminal value, but Hume might rival the Frenchman for that prize.</p><div><hr></div><p>**FOOTFOOTNOTE 2: I should note that Aristotle himself makes the <em>per se</em> / <em>per accidens</em> distinction only implicitly, since Aristotle himself never draws any essential / accidental distinction at the level of the series. He spends an enormous amount of effort distinguishing between &#8220;accidental&#8221; (<em>&#954;&#945;&#964;&#8048; &#963;&#965;&#956;&#946;&#949;&#946;&#951;&#954;&#8056;&#962;</em>) and &#8220;essential&#8221; (<em>&#954;&#945;&#952;&#8217; &#945;&#8017;&#964;&#940;</em>) changes at the level of the individual cause. He even originates the man-holding-stick-pushing-stone example of the <em>per se</em> causal series in his proof of the Unmoved Mover! However, Aristotle himself never zooms out enough to expressly endorse the <em>per se</em> / <em>per accidens</em> distinction. (This means he also offers no definition of his own for it.) The fact that &#8220;<em>per accidens</em>&#8221; and &#8220;<em>per se</em>&#8221; are both in Latin, not Greek, gives you a pretty big hint that the distinction was a medieval development. Aquinas and I make this distinction, but Aristotle only hints at something like it.</p><p>Also, it&#8217;s worth noting a few differences of opinion on the world&#8217;s eternity: whereas Aristotle positively affirmed an eternal world, St. Thomas, as a Christian, rejected it in favor of the Genesis account (God created the world <em>ex nihilo)</em>. However, Aquinas also maintained that God&#8217;s creation of the world cannot be confirmed by philosophy, and that Aristotle&#8217;s position was therefore philosophically reasonable. Aquinas held the door open for Aristotle.</p><p>For my own part, I am surprisingly agnostic about the details of the world&#8217;s beginning&#8212;much moreso than Aquinas himself, and possibly moreso than a Christian has a right to be. This is because of what we have learned in recent decades about the relativity of time, the indefinite cosmic inflation period leading up to what we know as the Big Bang, and hypotheses like Richard Dawkins&#8217; &#8220;universe factory&#8221; that push the causal start of our own universe into entirely <em>different</em>&#8212;but still non-eternal&#8212;spacetimes. I&#8217;m just not quite sure what it means to say that the world &#8220;began&#8221; if time itself has a beginning, which it might. I suppose it would mean the same thing as saying that angels &#8220;began&#8221;&#8212;but, when we say that angels began, we have to qualify it pretty heavily.</p><div><hr></div><p>***FOOTFOOTNOTE 3: A small irony here is that Aquinas himself did <em>not</em> believe in an infinite series of begetting and begetters. He thought the world was created <em>ex nihilo</em> by God at a particular time in the past. He argued for the <em>logical possibility</em> of an eternal world to defend the logical coherence of his BFF Aristotle, who thought the world and motion had existed from eternity. </p><p>Irony upon irony though, Aristotle&#8217;s belief in the world&#8217;s eternity does <em>not </em>necessarily imply that <em>human generation </em>is eternal, nor, to my knowledge, did Aristotle ever claim it did. The world could be timeless even if humanity had a beginning&#8212;as, I contend, it must have. </p><p>Indeed, a wide range of evidence has now established, with virtual certainty, that humanity <em>did</em> have a beginning. (Human beings did not exist at the Big Bang, and never met any dinosaurs!) </p><p>So this whole footnote was made necessary by an argument that, it seems to me, Aquinas never needed to make in the first place. Oh, well!</p><div><hr></div><p>****FOOTFOOTNOTE 4: I am not the first to directly contend that Aquinas made an error when he presented begetting as a <em>per accidens</em> causal series. Alexander Pruss raised objections to it <a href="https://alexanderpruss.blogspot.com/2023/11/aquinas-on-per-se-and-accidentally.html">in 2023</a>. However, Pruss&#8217;s objections come in from a slightly different angle, and his proposed resolutions are therefore rather different from mine as well. </p><div><hr></div><p>WORKS NOT CITED: There are some other things I read during the months I spent researching and writing this footnote that did not end up getting expressly cited in the footnote, but which I warmly recommend anyway (whether I agreed with them or not on this particular point in question):</p><ul><li><p>&#8220;<a href="https://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2021/07/schmid-on-aristotelian-proof.html">Schmid on the Aristotelian Proof</a>,&#8221; by Edward Feser on his blog, and internal links</p></li><li><p><em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Aquinas-Introduction-Medieval-Thinker-Philosophy/dp/0140136746">Aquinas</a></em>, by F.C. Copleston (<a href="https://archive.org/details/bwb_KU-241-627">@Internet Archive</a>)</p></li><li><p><em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/being-some-philosophers-etienne-gilson/dp/088844415x">Being &amp; Some Philosophers</a></em>, by Etienne Gilson, though I&#8217;ve not finished it (@<a href="https://archive.org/details/beingsomephiloso0000gils/page/n9/mode/2up">Archive</a>)</p></li><li><p><em><a href="https://search.worldcat.org/title/864380553">Scholastic Metaphysics</a></em>, by Edward Feser</p></li><li><p>Several long discussions with my parents in which Mom kept excitedly shouting &#8220;<em>habens esse!</em>&#8221; and Dad kept saying &#8220;I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s in the First Way,&#8221; and I thought how lucky I am to have them for parents. (Also Mom&#8217;s lecture notes on the <em>De ente</em>, the cosmological argument, Hume&#8217;s objections, and replies to objections.)</p></li><li><p>If you&#8217;re trying to closely read the <em>Physics</em>, Aquinas&#8217;s <em><a href="https://isidore.co/aquinas/Physics8.htm">Commentary</a></em><a href="https://isidore.co/aquinas/Physics8.htm"> </a><em><a href="https://isidore.co/aquinas/Physics8.htm">on the</a></em><a href="https://isidore.co/aquinas/Physics8.htm"> </a><em><a href="https://isidore.co/aquinas/Physics8.htm">Physics</a></em> will not save you <em>any </em>time at all, but his no-nonsense, &#8220;First, the Philosopher states his thesis, which is&#8230; Then, he states three arguments proving the contrary absurd. Then, he makes his first argument&#8230;&#8221; structure will nevertheless clarify a great deal.</p></li><li><p>&#8220;<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20060830162051/http://mind.ucsd.edu/syllabi/02-03/01w/readings/edwards.pdf">A Critique of the Cosmological Argument</a>,&#8221; by Paul Edwards, appearing in <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Philosophy-Religion-Anthology-Brian-Davies/dp/019875194X?asin=019875194X&amp;revisionId=&amp;format=4&amp;depth=1">Philosophy of Religion: A Guide and Anthology</a></em>, ed. Brian Davies</p></li><li><p>&#8220;<a href="https://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2010/08/edwards-on-infinite-causal-series.html">Edwards on Infinite Causal Series</a>,&#8221; by Edward Feser on his blog</p></li><li><p><em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Last-Superstition-Refutation-New-Atheism/dp/1587314525">The Last Superstition</a></em>, by Edward Feser</p></li><li><p><em><a href="https://search.worldcat.org/title/8306805?oclcNum=8306805">The Miracle of Theism</a></em>, by J.L. Mackie (brief section on the Five Ways) (<a href="https://archive.org/details/miracleoftheism0000jlma/page/90/mode/2up">@Archive</a>)</p></li><li><p>&#8220;<a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/2183226">Infinite Causal Regression</a>,&#8221; by Patterson Brown, <em>Philosophical Review </em>#75<em>,</em> 1966</p></li><li><p><a href="https://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2010/08/edwards-on-infinite-causal-series.html?showComment=1282702618381#c5150470945871462413">This comment by Would Be Thomist</a> on Edward Feser&#8217;s blog </p></li><li><p>Daniel Graham&#8217;s concise, chapter-by-chapter outline of <em>Physics VIII</em>, near the end of his 1999 <em><a href="http://naturalisms.org/phil-editions/ancient/Aristotle/Aristotle%20Physics%20Book%20VIII%20-%20Oxford%20edn%201999.pdf">Commentary on Physics VIII</a>.</em></p></li><li><p>&#8220;<a href="https://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2021/03/tennant-on-aquinass-second-way.html">Tennant on Aquinas&#8217;s Second Way</a>,&#8221; by Edward Feser on his blog. (Yes, there is a lot of Feser on this list. Feser is prolific, writes for a lay audience, and makes much of his work available for free. If you want to make bank in philosophy&#8230;)</p></li><li><p>When I got deep into the biology stuff, I also wanted to talk about Aquinas&#8217;s delineation of accidental causes and effects in <em><a href="https://isidore.co/aquinas/QDdePotentia3.htm#3:6">De Potentia</a></em><a href="https://isidore.co/aquinas/QDdePotentia3.htm#3:6">, Q3, A6</a>, ad. 6; his discussion of infinity <em>per accidens</em> in <em><a href="https://isidore.co/aquinas/english/QDdeVer2.htm#10">De Veritate</a></em><a href="https://isidore.co/aquinas/english/QDdeVer2.htm#10">, Q2, A10</a>; and his discussion of disease inheritance (which he denied) at <em><a href="https://isidore.co/aquinas/QDdePotentia3.htm#3:5">De Potentia</a></em><a href="https://isidore.co/aquinas/QDdePotentia3.htm#3:5"> Q3 A5 ad. 7</a>. I cut it all to streamline the argument, since none of them are <em>quite</em> on-point either way, but any deeper discussion of that question will likely touch on those arguments.</p></li></ul></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I believe it&#8217;s a <a href="https://www.mathsisfun.com/sets/countable.html">countably infinite set</a>, so there is a first boxcar, even if it is infinitely far away.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Dear Mrs. Quillan, as you have no doubt noticed, these letters are addressed to <em>both</em> my daughters, so I must respectfully request that you continue teaching sixth-grade theology at [REDACTED] until Irene is through sixth grade. That will be in Spring of 2031. Otherwise, I will have to change the reference to &#8220;Mrs. Quillan&#8221; to &#8220;some unknown lady who&#8217;s definitely not as good a theology teacher as Mrs. Quillan&#8221; when I give Irene her copy of this letter. So I just need you to give up five years of your life so I can avoid making a minor edit. That&#8217;s it. That&#8217;s all I ask. Love James</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>He <em>may</em> have had some limited contact with Judaism, according to an apocryphal story transmitted by Josephus.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Roundup: Letters to My Daughters]]></title><description><![CDATA[Everything I've written to my daughters about growing up Catholic.]]></description><link>https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/roundup-letters-to-my-daughers</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/roundup-letters-to-my-daughers</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[James J. Heaney]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2026 06:05:22 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8d094e3b-9681-419e-b357-2c29777cec5a_899x491.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!IB1_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe86cf99-54b1-4529-a294-5360d7b22c2a_482x481.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!IB1_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe86cf99-54b1-4529-a294-5360d7b22c2a_482x481.png 424w, 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">&#8220;I like the cover. &#8216;Don&#8217;t Panic.&#8217; It&#8217;s the first helpful or intelligible thing anybody&#8217;s said to me all day.&#8221; <em>&#8212;Arthur Dent</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Here are all installments so far in the <em>Letters to My Daughters </em>/ <em>Letters to a Growing Catholic</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> series:</p><div><hr></div><ul><li><p><strong>Letter #1: </strong>&#8220;<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/the-truth-and-nothing-but-the-truth">The Truth and Nothing but the Truth, So Help Me God</a>&#8221; &#8212; Against doesn&#8217;t-matterism. The truth matters a lot. <em>(27 August 2022)</em></p></li><li><p><strong>Letter #2: </strong>&#8220;<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/faith-is-firstly-reasonable">Faith is, Firstly, Reasonable</a>&#8221; &#8212; Faith flows from reason, not in opposition to it. <em>(2 March 2023)</em></p></li><li><p><strong>Letter #3: </strong>&#8220;<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/the-leap-of-faith-is-not-to-jump">The Leap of Faith is Not to Jump</a>&#8221; &#8212; Faith holds you to reason, even when you don&#8217;t want to be held. <em>(22 March 2023)</em></p></li><li><p><strong>Letter #4: </strong>&#8220;<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/the-quest-and-the-rest">The Quest (and the Rest)</a>&#8221; &#8212; Not all are called to a lifelong Quest for the Truth, and I will equip you for either calling. <em>(14 June 2024)</em></p></li><li><p><strong>Letter #5: &#8220;</strong><a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/who-arent-i-why-arent-i-here">Who Aren&#8217;t I? Why Aren&#8217;t I Here?</a>&#8221; &#8212; We must free our minds from the assumption of mechanical materialism. (<em>9 August 2024</em>)</p></li><li><p><strong>Letter #6: </strong>&#8220;<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/the-one-thing-it-aint-is-turtles">The One Thing It Ain&#8217;t Is Turtles All The Way Down</a>&#8221; &#8212; an argument from motion (<em>April 2026</em>)</p></li><li><p><strong>Letter #7: </strong>&#8220;The Alien Entity&#8221; &#8212; <em>(June 2026)</em></p></li></ul><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I&#8217;m still not happy with the name of this series, so I reserve the right to change it again. <em>The Hitchhiker&#8217;s Guide to Life, the Universe, and Everything, </em>while perhaps closer to the spirit of the series than anything else I&#8217;ve come up with, seems like it&#8217;s trying way too hard to be cool, like an <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBbvyYEcDII">aging Ford Prefect</a>. My 7-year-old recently told me, &#8220;There&#8217;s nothing less cool than a dad trying to be cool,&#8221; which is true, obvious, yet somehow devastating coming from that tiny mouth.</p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[In Conversation with Jonathan Frakes]]></title><description><![CDATA[Year three of the April 1 interview.]]></description><link>https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/in-conversation-with-jonathan-frakes</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/in-conversation-with-jonathan-frakes</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[James J. Heaney]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2026 08:21:41 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/youtube/w_728,c_limit/K0k_NstbGn4" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This time, when acclaimed actor-director Jonathan Frakes asked for an interview, I refused outright. The <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/i-am-interviewed-by-jonathan-frakes">first time</a> I sat down with Frakes (best known for <em><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMarktOaOQc">The Doctors</a> </em>and <em><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zej6B3ZLxi4">Star Patrol!</a></em>), we had a tape malfunction that left only Frakes&#8217;s side of the interview intact. The <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/i-am-interviewed-by-jonathan-frakes-17e">second time</a>, same thing! So, this time, I said no. I had been happy to help Frakes boost his career on <em>De Civitate</em>&#8217;s much larger coattails, but the fates were against us. It wasn&#8217;t working out.</p><p>However, this year when we spoke, Frakes suggested an interesting theory. Perhaps, he suggested, the cameras were being shorted out by the charisma differential between us. </p><p>You see, cameras are perfectly fine filming me, and perfectly fine filming Frakes. However, when his electric charisma is contrasted with my &#8220;face for radio,&#8221; it sends the cameras on the fritz. (This struck me as logical.) The solution: rather than a traditional interview, which involve long soliloquies that risk building up a high &#8220;charge&#8221; in the charisma differential, this time we would sit down together and have more free-ranging conversation. That would keep the charisma differentials low and the cameras online.</p><p>Like a fool, I agreed.</p><p>As I soon learned, Two-Takes Frakes is a lunatic. He cannot hold a discussion thread together for more than a few seconds. His idea of &#8220;conversation&#8221; is to emit a koan and then stare at me uncomfortably for several seconds waiting for my reaction, before leaping to a new, wholly unrelated, koan, as if I&#8217;d never replied at all. During our entire interview, he blinked exactly twice, which was somehow much worse than never blinking at all. </p><p>Worse still, the rapid-fire camera movement between him and I seemed only to build up the fatal charisma differentials even faster. Not only am I, once again, invisible on this tape, but the quality of what&#8217;s left is visibly degraded!</p><div><hr></div><div id="youtube2-K0k_NstbGn4" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;K0k_NstbGn4&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/K0k_NstbGn4?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>Oh, well, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, fool me thrice, you fool me, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl7FKfl3O2Y">it can&#8217;t get fooled again</a>.</p><p>I here attempt to reconstruct some of what I said to Frakes to keep our bizarre &#8220;conversation&#8221; afloat, and I must say I&#8217;ll be actively looking for a better way to spend my April 1 next year. My best to Jonathan on his budding career, but I&#8217;m afraid I can&#8217;t keep helping him out like this.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>De Civitate</em> is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>On to the interview:</p><div><hr></div><blockquote><p><em>Our hatred for this reptile goes all the way back to the dawn of civilization.</em></p></blockquote><p>Wait WHAT?! That&#8217;s a huge snake! Where did that snake come from? Where were you keeping it when you came in and sat down and I offered you a soda?! Wait, is that a <em>rattlesnake? </em>No, you&#8212; no. Out. Get it out. Yes, I&#8217;ll hold your <em>Mr. Pibb</em>, it&#8217;s fine, just&#8212;</p><blockquote><p><em>Chess is more than a microcosm of war</em>.</p></blockquote><p>The more I play games, the less I think of chess as a microcosm of anything. Chess is, in its own way, quite a beautiful game. From a single, fair, simple, consistent starting position, the application of just a handful of rules (which you can fit on a single page of paper) blossoms into a staggering array of possible, yet delightfully finite, outcomes. However, your opponent has the same access to those possibilities as you do, so the only sure way to outmaneuver him and carry the day is to outthink him. This is a lot of fun.</p><p>However, everything that makes chess beautiful also makes it alien to any actual human experience. Take war, for example. War is never fought from a fair position. The sides are never perfectly matched. Even in an even fight, each side will have advantages and disadvantages, which create an asymmetry in every conflict. The rules, such as they are, are often discovered in-flight, are constantly evolving, and (between combat, logistics, strategy, politics, finance, morale, technology, and a thousand other considerations) would fill all the books in the Library of Alexandria while barely scratching the surface. The possibility space of war is not actually infinite, but it&#8217;s close enough.</p><p>I find myself gravitating today more towards games that open up more possibilities. I don&#8217;t doubt that, someday, the LLMs will be just as good at the <em><a href="https://www.trekcc.org/1e/?cardID=8335">Star</a> <a href="https://www.trekcc.org/1e/?cardID=4542">Trek</a> </em><a href="https://www.trekcc.org/1e/?cardID=4728">card</a> <a href="https://www.trekcc.org/1e/?cardID=3752">game</a> as the world&#8217;s best players, but there is so much more rich variability in a game like that compared to chess that I suspect <em>Trek</em>&#8217;s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlphaGo_versus_Lee_Sedol">AlphaGo moment</a> is still a ways off. I am particularly attracted to games (like <em>Trek</em>) that involve building a custom deck beforehand, because so much of the outcome is then determined by choices made long before the first turn begins&#8230; much like in a real war!</p><blockquote><p><em>Cakes are more than just a delicious way to end a meal.</em></p></blockquote><p>No, cake sucks.</p><p>I love sweets. When playing Santa Claus / the Easter Bunny and filling stockings / baskets, I deal myself in for an even share of the loot. When my wife goes in to Regina&#8217;s Fine Candies to buy me my birthday present, the woman behind the counter invariably asks if it&#8217;s her &#8220;usual order.&#8221; (My wife does not eat candy.) I bake two Sweet Martha&#8217;s Gourmet Chocolate Chunk cookies to eat hot out of the oven almost every night right before bed, a tradition I&#8217;ve had now for nearly twenty years.</p><p>Cake, however, is a very dull dessert. It&#8217;s so fluffy that much of it is just air. It&#8217;s less a delectable sugar explosion and more like mildly sweet bread. I like bread a lot, but it&#8217;s no dessert. Frosting can help break up the monotony of a slice of cake, but usually it&#8217;s heavily concentrated at the top, with perhaps a thin layer in the middle, so you&#8217;re either getting a boring mouthful of sweetish bread or you&#8217;re getting an intense mouthful of frosting that crowds out everything but the sugar taste. You want a dessert to spread its tastes through every bite, like a well-mixed Cold Stone ice cream or a DQ Blizzard. In that sense, cake just isn&#8217;t fit for purpose, even if its tastes were really exciting, which they mostly aren&#8217;t.</p><p>I have a rather daring theory about this:</p><p>I think cake is beloved because of cultural heritage. People long ago had no great desserts (many of our ancestors had the misfortune to be British), so they hit on this pretty mid dessert, lost their minds for it, and passed on that excitement to their kids, who are inculturated into loving cake before they have the critical faculties to realize that cake is pretty boring. Of course, we all <em>like</em> cake and I don&#8217;t deny that some of us legitimately <em>love</em> it, but I tend to opt out.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!p0_f!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08ec1c0c-17e0-483b-b408-1a4321e60158_500x714.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!p0_f!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08ec1c0c-17e0-483b-b408-1a4321e60158_500x714.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!p0_f!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08ec1c0c-17e0-483b-b408-1a4321e60158_500x714.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!p0_f!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08ec1c0c-17e0-483b-b408-1a4321e60158_500x714.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!p0_f!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08ec1c0c-17e0-483b-b408-1a4321e60158_500x714.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!p0_f!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08ec1c0c-17e0-483b-b408-1a4321e60158_500x714.jpeg" width="500" height="714" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/08ec1c0c-17e0-483b-b408-1a4321e60158_500x714.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:714,&quot;width&quot;:500,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!p0_f!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08ec1c0c-17e0-483b-b408-1a4321e60158_500x714.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!p0_f!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08ec1c0c-17e0-483b-b408-1a4321e60158_500x714.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!p0_f!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08ec1c0c-17e0-483b-b408-1a4321e60158_500x714.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!p0_f!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08ec1c0c-17e0-483b-b408-1a4321e60158_500x714.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Flourless dessert tortes often solve many of these problems simply by increasing density, so I will go for a torte, but what I actually have as a &#8220;birthday cake&#8221; at my birthday party every year is a bowl of raw cookie dough dumped on a plate with candles stuck in.</p><p>I highly recommend it.</p><blockquote><p><em>Books can be viewed as food for the mind.</em></p></blockquote><p>True enough!</p><p>Fiction is the queen here. Non-fiction is good and much of it is formative in important ways. Where would I be without Doris Kearns Goodwin&#8217;s <em>Team of Rivals</em> or Elie Wiesel&#8217;s <em>Night</em> in the back of my head? How does anyone make sense of a classic <em>Call of Duty</em> WWII campaign without having read Stephen Ambrose&#8217;s <em>Citizen Soldiers</em>?  Nonetheless, fiction can&#8217;t give you the full picture of humanity the way a good tale can. On the other hand, reading is in such free-fall at the moment that I&#8217;m not really in a position to have that argument. Reading&#8217;s not even losing to other storytelling mediums, like television, film, or single-player video games. It&#8217;s getting replaced by short-form video and <em>Steal a Brainrot</em> multiplayer slop. I really don&#8217;t know what our civilization will look like if those become our common texts instead of <em>Pride &amp; Prejudice </em>and <em>The Lord of the Rings. </em>But whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent, so let&#8217;s move on.</p><blockquote><p><em>In the age of communication, we can always be reached</em>.</p></blockquote><p>In 2026, this is becoming less true every day.</p><p>As a culture, we are becoming paranoid to the point of hysteria about our &#8220;private&#8221; information. As individuals, we are becoming too fragmented to find one another.</p><p>I&#8217;ll give you a for-instance. A few weeks ago, I found a CD wedged underneath a drawer, where it must have fallen years prior. It clearly belonged to the last person who lived in my house. I knew her name because the CD was lodged next to some eight-year-old medical bills. The CD appeared to have sentimental value to the owner, so I resolved to give it back to her. In the 1990s, this would have been straightforward: knowing her first and last name, I would have looked her up in the White Pages. (She had a rather distinctive name.) The White Pages would have listed her phone number. I would then have called that phone number, told her about the CD, asked her if she wanted it back, and, if so, arranged a pickup.</p><p>In 2026, this was impossible. I spent two days trying to track down her contact information through the Internet, looking for mutual friends on various social media networks. Once upon a time, everyone was on Facebook, but Facebook is dying. Lots of people are elsewhere, and lots of people are nowhere. The death of landline telephones has made tracking phone numbers nigh-impossible, even if the White Pages still existed. I wasn&#8217;t willing to pay $20 for some online &#8220;public records lookup&#8221; to send me a list of suspected phone numbers that may or may not prove out. In the end, I got lucky and found a local address linked to one of those &#8220;public records lookup&#8221; companies, and her niece was a year ahead of my wife in high school, so I was able to do a little Facebook stalking through the niece to confirm the match. The address was an assisted living facility, so my only way to return the CD was to sneak into the building (the doorbell went unanswered), find her room, and hand it to her personally. She was first annoyed that someone was knocking at her door, then surprised, then quite pleased when she realized what I&#8217;d done. But boy I would have loved to just phone her and save myself all the trouble!</p><p>Even among friends and well-known contacts, I used to just have to track their phone numbers. Now, I have some friends who have landlines and can&#8217;t receive texts (although not many), some who have cell phones and <em>only</em> accept texts, some who mostly answer email, some who ignore email and only answer Facebook Messenger, some on Discord, and one exclusively on WhatsApp. If I ever lose his number from WhatsApp, I will probably never speak to him again. I&#8217;ve had to start taking notes on my friends, not to remind myself of their numbers and/or screennames, but only to remind myself which messaging service to use to contact them!</p><p>Another example: universities used to all have public directories. These directories listed basic information about contacting current students: their names, ages, class years, phone numbers, email addresses, and mailbox numbers. This was such a normal and indeed important part of life that FERPA, the giant federal privacy law governing higher education, has a giant exemption carved into the heart of it allowing &#8220;directory information&#8221; to be shared with the general public. However, in the last fifteen years or so, not only have universities all but eliminated these directories, but the very <em>idea</em> of allowing people to know that an individual student so much as <em>attends the school</em> has become an affront. (&#8220;What if they&#8217;re dealing with a stalker?&#8221; Well, we can always just take <em>those</em> specific students out of the directory!) Publishing actual student <em>contact information</em>? Beyond the pale. People who had all this info published about themselves a couple decades ago and never gave it a second thought now think you&#8217;re inviting murder and mayhem if you confirm a given student&#8217;s dorm number without a form signed in triplicate.</p><p>I don&#8217;t know exactly whom to blame for this. School shooters? Online scammers? Our suffocating culture of safetyism and/or liability avoidance? Perhaps it&#8217;s just the 15-minutes-of-fame phenomenon, pushing anonymity shields created for celebrities into the mainstream because any one of us could suddenly find ourselves facing down an Internet cancel mob of thousands. </p><p>Whatever the cause, though, in this age of communication, we are actually getting <em>quite weird</em> about anyone daring to actually communicate with us. I don&#8217;t think we talk about this enough.</p><blockquote><p>A game of cards reflects life itself.</p></blockquote><p>I&#8230; I know. I already said that, didn&#8217;t I? When we were talking about chess?</p><blockquote><p>An organized workspace is a must.</p></blockquote><p>This is true. My wife touts her ability to look around a messy counter and just find stuff on it, and she is quite good at it. It took me years to realize, though, that she had no magic powers in this department. If a cabinet got sufficiently crowded or messy, she would lose track of what was in it and put things on the grocery list that we already had, no matter how good her eyes were at picking things out. Eventually, &#8220;heap management&#8221; as a form of organization <em>always </em>fails!</p><p>Don&#8217;t listen to people who call it &#8220;OCD&#8221; or &#8220;autistic&#8221; if you need to organize a space before you start working in it! This is received wisdom hundreds of generations old, practiced in every professional shop I can think of, and just obviously true. It&#8217;s harder to get work done if you don&#8217;t organize first. One can go over the top with this (which <em>can</em> become pathological), but this is another area where our culture has gotten weird and prickly about normal human operating parameters.</p><blockquote><p><em>A dream about driving might be a statement of independence.</em></p></blockquote><p>But it probably isn&#8217;t. Dreams mostly have no meaning and reveal nothing. Freud is mostly bunk, and prophetic dreams are rare.</p><blockquote><p><em>A true archaeological find is like winning the lottery.</em></p></blockquote><p>What does this mean?</p><p>Does it mean that you can make a lot of money off finding an important primitive humanoid skull in your back yard? I suppose you can, but it requires a certain amount of savvy, a <em>really</em> good find, clear legal rights in your favor (rarer than you might think), and is frowned on by both professionals and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXyPvhISkRQ">Indiana Jones</a>.</p><p>Does it mean that a good find significantly increases the sum total of human knowledge and prosperity? Perhaps it does, but lotteries don&#8217;t. Each lottery has one huge beneficiary, but that&#8217;s paid for out of the prosperity of hundreds or thousands of others. None of <em>them</em> are better off for it. Some of them are addicts, losing their lives to gambling. The state extracts some pittance of the lottery to inefficiently spend on birds or something, but, net-net, lotteries are bad for mankind.</p><p>Does it mean, then, that finding a big archeological discovery is going to lead to a ton of paperwork, and probably lawyers? That, I admit, does seem probable.</p><blockquote><p><em>If someone takes their picture, they steal your soul</em>.</p></blockquote><p>Bad news for Hollywood actors, Frakes!</p><p>&#8230;but also explains a good deal about Hollywood in general, now that you mention it.</p><blockquote><p><em>The better you look, the better you feel</em>.</p></blockquote><p>You know, there is something to this. That may be surprising, coming from me, given the <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/i-am-interviewed-by-jonathan-frakes-17e">intense apathy</a> I expressed toward clothing last year. Yet there does come a point in the day when you&#8217;ve been in sweats and a bathrobe for too long. Even though clothes don&#8217;t matter to you, a self-image forms, and I don&#8217;t like it. The image usually includes stink lines, often unjustly. Then I put on real clothes and do, in fact, feel better. If I put on a suit, better still.</p><p>My suit is tailored,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> and that counts for something, too. It fits really nice, better than any other clothing I own. That just feels smart, physically. It may also project a message to everyone else in the area, but the clothing&#8217;s physical feel, I think, is doing a lot of the work here.</p><blockquote><p><em>Hospital rooms can be drab, depressing places.</em></p></blockquote><p>Can&#8217;t argue the point, but putting up one crucifix helps a lot. </p><p>The crucifix is a particularly good symbol to bring into a place of suffering. It reminds simultaneously that one is accompanied in that suffering, and that the suffering leads to something better. Losing sight of that leads to despair, I think.</p><div><hr></div><p>Annnnnnd that&#8217;s all I got! I know that&#8217;s only half of my conversation with Frakes, but the rest of the tape recording I have appears unsalvageable. </p><p>Perhaps I&#8217;ll be able to repair it, but I estimate it would take a team of technicians working on it for (at a very rough estimate) somewhere between 364 and 366 days. I know that&#8217;s a huge range, but repairs are very tricky to predict.</p><p>For now, thanks again to Jonathan Frakes&#8230; I guess&#8230; for sitting down with me&#8230; again. I am being told that we do have a clip Jonathan wants to share tonight from one of his directorial projects, so I&#8217;ll leave you with that:</p><div id="youtube2-GwkD7itIsCM" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;GwkD7itIsCM&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/GwkD7itIsCM?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>As for me, it&#8217;s time to bake a couple cookies!</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>De Civitate</em> is a reader-supported publication. 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I had a very productive February followed by a much quieter March, and I have been feeling guilty about it.</em></p><p><em>Aside from this annual April Fool&#8217;s treat, I have been working hard on the next installment of <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/who-arent-i-why-arent-i-here">Letters to My Daughters</a>, which has proved fiendishly difficult. If I do my job well, the final product will </em>look<em> easy-breezy&#8212;even shallow&#8212;but let me assure you I&#8217;ve been rewriting paragraphs over and over again! Speaking about metaphysics precisely, clearly, </em>and<em> concisely, all while staying age-accessible is no easy task!</em></p><p><em>One way or another, though, I won&#8217;t let this drought continue. You readers are too important. Happy April and see you soon.</em></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Not, like, fancy luxury tailoring, just Milbern&#8217;s Value Tailoring, but it still cost an arm and a leg and is the best piece of clothing I&#8217;ve ever owned.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[An Illegal War is Inherently Unjust]]></title><description><![CDATA[Bush took a year to make the case for war. Trump took 8 minutes.]]></description><link>https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/an-illegal-war-is-inherently-unjust</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/an-illegal-war-is-inherently-unjust</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[James J. Heaney]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2026 21:40:37 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2IzN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F563a99c7-a571-4c3e-b63d-1f25c28d9e63_799x533.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2IzN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F563a99c7-a571-4c3e-b63d-1f25c28d9e63_799x533.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2IzN!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F563a99c7-a571-4c3e-b63d-1f25c28d9e63_799x533.jpeg 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They weren&#8217;t ready for this sign yet, but their kids are gonna love it. (PHOTO: <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/anglerove/4347467095/">anglerove</a>)</figcaption></figure></div><p>I talk to a lot of people on the internet, so the law of averages dictates that many of them are idiots.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> This is not their fault and I have spent decades practicing the habits of good conversation, even with idiots: listen closely, argue clearly, claim firmly, question gently, and pursue common ground aggressively. </p><p>For example, in the Catholicism forum on Reddit, I recently took the position that, if you have sex with your wife and penetration alone is insufficient to get her off, it is morally praiseworthy to use your mouth to finish her, and I cited <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/60540725/71-sex-is-not-over-after-husbands-orgasm">19th-century sources</a> supporting the general principle to argue that it&#8217;s a long-established teaching. My view was generally well-received, but it also provoked one specific guy to message me several times a day every day since to inform me that he is praying for God to reprimand me for my blasphemy against the Virgin Mary. I am trying to be firm but kind,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> because that is how you persuade. It&#8217;s also how you learn. And it&#8217;s how you discuss important disagreements without going to Hell. After all, Christ warns us: &#8220;&#8230;whosoever shall say, <em>Thou fool!</em>, shall be in danger of hell fire.&#8221; (Mt 5:22)</p><p>Recently, despite all this, I lost my temper. A guy said something so stupid that I opened with an insult, doubled down by belittling him, got sarcastic, rejected any possibility of common ground, and generally tried to make him feel every inch of how stupid he was being. I knew it was bad and I did it anyway. I, who am understanding toward QAnon and gentle toward people who tell me they would take my kids away from me if they came out as trans, lost my crap.</p><p>So what unspeakable obscenity did this guy propose? Was he defending Jeffrey Epstein? Did he propose genocide of humanity for environmental reasons? </p><p>No. This man started by arguing that Donald Trump had done a good job preparing the American people for his war with Iran. Foolish, but I stayed my hand. He argued that Donald Trump had done a better job preparing the American people for a war than other recent presidents.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> Madness, but I told myself to be the bigger man. </p><p>Then this degenerate implied that the &#8220;recent presidents&#8221; Trump had outdone included George W. Bush.</p><p>And <em>then</em> I went at him.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a></p><div id="youtube2-AzvnWm2AmhA" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;AzvnWm2AmhA&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/AzvnWm2AmhA?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><div class="pullquote"><p>&#8220;Well, sir, this was a matter o&#8217; pride.&#8221;</p></div><h2>How to Start a Legal War</h2><p>In January 2002, President George W. Bush gave the &#8220;axis of evil&#8221; State of the Union speech, which briefly enumerated the sins of Saddam Hussein&#8217;s Iraqi government:</p><blockquote><p>Iraq continues to flaunt its hostility toward America and to support terror. The Iraqi regime has plotted to develop anthrax, and nerve gas, and nuclear weapons for over a decade. This is a regime that has already used poison gas to murder thousands of its own citizens&#8212;leaving the bodies of mothers huddled over their dead children. This is a regime that agreed to international inspections&#8212;then kicked out the inspectors. This is a regime that has something to hide from the civilized world.</p></blockquote><p>With this, the Bush White House kicked off its campaign to win public, constitutional, and international support for a policy it had decided was vital to the interests of the United States: war with Iraq.</p><p>Over the next year, the White House made Iraq the center of an astonishingly long news cycle. Saddam Hussein was the <em>TIME</em> Magazine cover story on May 13&#8230; and again on September 16&#8230; and <em>again</em> on March 10. It was a constant feature in the news. <a href="https://www.newsweek.com/top-stories-2002-141407">Newsweek identified it as</a> the top story of 2002, above even that year&#8217;s midterm elections. Heck, the midterms were, in large part, a referendum on the proposed Iraq War anyway!</p><p>On the international front, top administration officials made the pilgrimage to the United Nations to make the case, forcefully and repeatedly, that Saddam Hussein had violated multiple U.N. resolutions, including the ceasefire agreement that had suspended the Persian Gulf War. The U.S. sought new rounds of weapon inspections, acknowledgments that the agreements suspending the Gulf War were in breach, and a new U.N. Security Council resolution, Resolution 1441, which promised &#8220;serious consequences&#8221; if Iraq failed to avail itself of this &#8220;final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations.&#8221; In the U.S.&#8217;s view, the broken ceasefire, combined with a new Security Council resolution, would satisfy our obligations to peace under the United Nations Charter Treaty.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a></p><p>Through a heroic amount of persuading, presenting, and (of course) lobbying, the Bush White House was able to win all three of its wishes. Res. 1441 passed in November 2002, eleven months after the Bush Administration began earnestly making the case for war. A few months later, Sec. of Defense Colin Powell&#8217;s presentation to the U.N. on supposed Iraqi weapons of mass destruction were riveting television the world over.</p><p>Meanwhile, domestically, the Bush team labored even harder to crack an tougher nut: the U.S. Congress. The House was under narrow but adequate Republican control, but the Democrats held the Senate, 51-49, and the progressive faction was already in the streets protesting the war. The White House launched a well-coordinated media campaign in September, hoping to convince voters and elected officials of the threat posed by Iraq. This outreach campaign was successful to an extent hardly imaginable today. The war resolution passed the Senate 77-23 (even Hillary Clinton voted for it!), and it got 296 votes in the House (the GOP only had 221 seats, 6 of whom voted nay). The Iraq War Resolution became law October 16, 2002, the product of months of hard political lifting.</p><p>The Iraq War Resolution was styled as an Authorization for the Use of Military Force (AUMF) Against Iraq. Since the War Powers Resolution, the AUMF has <a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/article-1/section-8/clause-1/declarations-of-war-vs-authorizations-for-use-of-military-force-aumf">evolved</a> into Congress&#8217;s modern way of exercising its constitutional power to &#8220;declare war.&#8221; Congress can use an AUMF to declare war directly, by authorizing immediate military force against specified enemies, or Congress can, through an AUMF, make a special, ticket-good-for-this-ride-only delegation of war powers to the President, authorizing him to use military force if certain conditions are met. Either approach satisfies the requirements of the War Powers Resolution, and either constitutes &#8220;declaring war&#8221; for purposes of Congress&#8217;s exclusive war-declaring powers under Article I, Section 8.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a></p><p>Congress took the first, immediate path just after 9/11, when it <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_Use_of_Military_Force_of_2001">declared war</a> on al-Qaeda and all its affiliates in perpetuity. For Iraq, though, Congress made the AUMF take the form of an ultimatum: they did not allow the President to launch a war <a href="https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/PLAW-107publ243/pdf/PLAW-107publ243.pdf">unless</a> the President could certify to Congress that peaceful means had failed and that the war on al-Qaeda would continue full-force. They hoped this ultimatum, backed by Congressional war authorization, would convince Iraq to comply without war. However, if the President certified the conditions were met, the AUMF allowed him to initiate hostilities without further action from Congress.</p><p>The Bush White House recognized that both the U.N. and Congress had given one last chance for Iraq to comply with its ceasefire obligations, and the White House honored that insistence. The AUMF passed in October, the U.N. resolution in November. The U.S. then spent four months pressuring Iraq to comply, repeating its <a href="https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030316-1.html">clear message</a> on Iraq throughout that time, both for Iraq&#8217;s benefit and the American People&#8217;s. President Bush finally issued Saddam Hussein <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr7OKqqTb_o">a globally broadcast ultimatum</a> on March 17: leave within 48 hours, or we will attack. He did not. We launched a limited first strike 49.5 hours later,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a> with the true opening attack (the &#8220;shock and awe&#8221; bombing of Baghdad&#8217;s military and leadership targets) arriving 45 minutes after that. By the time the bombs fell, Bush had already <a href="https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ243/PLAW-107publ243.pdf">secretly transmitted</a> to Congress his certification that peaceful means had failed, and his public notice under the War Powers Resolution was on their desks the next day.</p><p>We don&#8217;t like to remember this because of how the war went later, but, just before and just after the first bombs fell, the Iraq War was <em>extremely</em> popular:</p><blockquote><p><em>Would you favor or oppose invading Iraq with U.S. ground troops in an attempt to remove Saddam Hussein from power?</em></p><ul><li><p>Favor: 64%</p></li><li><p>Oppose: 33%</p></li><li><p>No Opinion: 3%</p></li></ul><p>-<a href="https://news.gallup.com/poll/1633/iraq.aspx">Gallup</a>, March 14-15, 2003</p><p>***</p><p><em>Do you think the United States action in Iraq is morally justified, or not?</em></p><ul><li><p>Yes, is: 73%</p></li><li><p>No, is not: 24%</p></li><li><p>No opinion: 3%</p></li></ul><p>-<a href="https://news.gallup.com/poll/1633/iraq.aspx">Gallup</a>, March 29-30, 2003</p></blockquote><p>This popularity had been built up over the course of a long, difficult year of presenting the case for war to a wide range of audiences, using the whole of the White House. The reason the Iraq War Resolution passed Congress was because elected officials had been, first, convinced by the arguments and, second, buoyed by the war&#8217;s popularity.</p><p>Now, the Iraq War was a mistake. </p><p>To be sure, great good came from it: Iraq has enjoyed more than 20 years of freedom. Although the cost in blood and treasure (for all concerned) was far higher than we expected, the government we built for them remains intact, and continues to govern. It has federalism, a parliament, and separation of powers. It has regular competitive elections. It has problems up the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Mobilization_Forces">wazoo</a>, but it no longer has Uday and Qusay Hussein&#8217;s rape-torture chambers for pretty women who catch the dictator&#8217;s eye. Saddam Hussein was responsible for the deaths of many thousands of innocents, and that regime has been replaced by a better one. (Not a great one. Don&#8217;t move to Iraq. But better.)</p><p>Nevertheless, the war was a mistake. The U.S. went in to topple the dictator, yes. Even in 2002, I considered that sufficient reason to attack. He&#8217;d gassed his own people! However, for most Americans, nation-building was a side project. Our main reason for invading was to dismantle Iraq&#8217;s weapons of mass destruction. That was the centerpiece of our argument for the war. When we got there, though, we found very few WMD, and the ones we did find mostly predated the first Gulf War. It gradually became clear that Saddam Hussein had actually been forced to abandon his WMD program in the 1990s, but had kept up noncompliance with the U.N. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Perspectives_Project">as a bluff</a>, because he wanted his enemies in Iran and Israel to think he <em>did</em> still have WMD.</p><p>Unfortunately for Saddam, his bluff worked.</p><p>As the war turned sour, many people turned to the theory that Bush had lied about the intelligence and manufactured a WMD threat out of whole cloth, but <em>every </em>country and <em>every</em> intelligence service at the time agreed that Iraq <em>did</em> have WMD.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a> That&#8217;s what Resolution 1441 said! In 1998, years before Bush even came on the scene, President Clinton had bombed Iraq for exactly the same reason.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a> As I recall it, the only person who seemed to really think Iraq might not have WMD was Hans Blix, and I never thought too much of Hans Blix:</p><div id="youtube2-5TEvacFETvM" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;5TEvacFETvM&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/5TEvacFETvM?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>Iraq goes to show that you can have a legal war, based on a reasonable assessment of the available facts, supported by a just cause, with large-scale public buy-in&#8230; and the war can <em>still</em> be a horrible mistake.</p><p>This should make us <em>even more skeptical</em> of illegal wars, especially the ones that are missing some of those key ingredients.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>De Civitate</em> is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2>How to Start an Illegal War</h2><p>I&#8217;m <a href="https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/02/05/exclusive-jd-vance-trump-recognizes-he-can-just-do-things-president/">told</a> that, &#8220;You can actually just do things.&#8221; Apparently, this means you can just start bombing a sovereign foreign country one day, out of nowhere,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a> without talking to Congress, without talking to the U.N., without making a case for war to the voters. Indeed, you can start a war by yourself, even though you campaigned on <em><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/live/czxrnw5qrprt?post=asset%3A00b4a04e-5387-4e00-9412-dd424261c895#post">not</a></em><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/live/czxrnw5qrprt?post=asset%3A00b4a04e-5387-4e00-9412-dd424261c895#post"> starting wars</a>, including <em><a href="https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/399731975432728576">this exact war</a>.</em></p><p><em>Surely I must tell the voters <strong>something,</strong></em> you might think. To satisfy this residuum of conscience, you might find yourself posting a quick address to the White House website <em>after </em>you start the war, then cold calling reporters at random for the next week to give them a quote here or there, as a treat.</p><p>Sorry, did I say the White House website? Here in reality, the <a href="https://youtu.be/EGDkKMZ4klk?si=rr4W8ic9WImx-F5L">post-attack video</a> actually went up on Truth Social, an obscure social media network used only by the White House&#8217;s sycophants.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a></p><p>The end. 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Bush on the left, Trump on the right, this is not a compliment to Trump.</figcaption></figure></div><h2>The Overlooked Just War Criterion</h2><p>I frequently turn to Catholic thought on moral questions, not just because I am Catholic, but because the Catholic Church has done an awful lot of thinking about most moral questions, and has therefore gotten pretty good at it. </p><p>However, in the matter of Just War Theory, the Catholic Church has been so generally persuasive that the Catholic view (whether advertised as such or not) is a very common starting point for <a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/just-war">everyone</a> talking about whether a war is justified or not. One way or another, most of its core ideas have found their way into <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_test">international law</a>. (In particular, Christianity has <a href="http://www.un-documents.net/a29r3314.htm">globalized</a> the once-radical idea that wars of aggression are not a legitimate tool of statecraft, but a crime against humanity.)</p><p>The Church lays out the just war criteria in its catechism at <a href="https://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P81.HTM">paragraph 2309</a>:</p><blockquote><p>The strict conditions for <em>legitimate defense by military force</em> require rigorous consideration. The gravity of such a decision makes it subject to rigorous conditions of moral legitimacy. At one and the same time:<br><br>- the damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave, and certain;<br><br>- all other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective;<br><br>- there must be serious prospects of success;<br><br>- the use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated. The power of modern means of destruction weighs very heavily in evaluating this condition.</p></blockquote><p>These are often summarized as: war must be <em>necessary</em>, a <em>last resort</em>, <em>not futile</em>, and <em>proportionate</em>.</p><p>However, evaluating these factors can be extremely difficult. Two good men may come to very different conclusions about one or more of them. </p><p>In Iraq, for example, many of us believed (as I did) that we would be greeted as liberators, that all human beings yearned for liberal democratic freedom, and that reconstruction would therefore be a quick and relatively painless affair. We <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVeUEABXDfg">were greeted as liberators</a>, but not by everyone, and that minority made reconstruction painful indeed, and never <em>entirely </em>successful. Moreover, the Iraqi people did <em>not</em>, in fact, yearn for liberalism in the same way that we meant it. </p><p>Those who wisely foresaw a long, expensive reconstruction period in Iraq raised serious objections to the proportionality of the war, fearing that we might replace the great evil of Saddam Hussein with the even greater evils of endless, bloody civil wars. Those of us who had bet heavy on a quick, easy victory thought those people were being ridiculous; of <em>course</em> the Iraq War would do a lot more good than evil! I still think the war ultimately cashed out as doing more good than harm, but it&#8217;s a much closer call than I ever expected in 2002, and we must, at the very least, admit that the critics had some <em>very</em> good points.</p><p>Because the just war criteria are almost always disputable, the Church has one more criterion, which is often forgotten, because it appears at the very bottom of the paragraph, and not in a bullet-point list: <em>competent authority.</em></p><blockquote><p>The evaluation of these conditions for moral legitimacy belongs to the prudential judgment of those who have responsibility for the common good.</p></blockquote><p>A wise and just nation creates power structures that make evaluating the just-war criteria a serious and difficult endeavor. A foolish nation places all that power in one set of hands, leaving the just war criteria to him alone. Either way, though, the power to evaluate the just war criteria belongs to the competent authority exclusively.</p><p>When someone <em>without</em> competent authority launches a war, then, the war is unjust, because the highly prudential calculus of just war has not been appropriately evaluated. For example, there have been several moments in our recent history where it was at least arguably justifiable for the U.S. to attack Syria.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a> However, if the governor of Kansas had quietly activated his state national guard, sent them overseas, unilaterally declared war on Syria, and sent his troops in to fight Bashar al-Assad and al-Qaeda, yes, it would be a farce. But it would also be a crime against peace. Under international law, it is probably a war crime. Under Catholic doctrine, it is a mortal sin. The Kansas-Syria war might very well be necessary in the just-war sense (at least for the defense of innocent Syrian civilians), a last resort, successful, and proportionate. However, the governor of Kansas simply lacks authority to lead America, or even Kansas, into war. He has not been entrusted with that piece of the common good. He is not entitled to impose his judgment on the American people. He would not be a liberator, but an usurper.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a></p><h2>The Wise Federal Design</h2><p>When the Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution, they deliberately fragmented &#8220;responsibility for the common good&#8221; among several different branches of government. Each branch was responsible for its own pieces. <em>Most</em> responsibility was <a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/tenth_amendment">reserved</a> &#8220;to the States respectively, or to the People.&#8221;</p><p>The <em>conduct</em> of war was assigned to the President, who was therefore declared &#8220;commander-in-chief of the armed forces&#8221; in Article II. The Founders did not believe war could be micromanaged by committee. Their own experience with the Continental Congress during the Revolution showed them that they needed a decisive leader to command U.S. military missions. Once war is declared, the President may be supervised by Congress,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-14" href="#footnote-14" target="_self">14</a> but it&#8217;s the President who eventually calls the shots.</p><p>On the other hand, the authority to decide about <em>declaring</em> war, the Founders gave exclusively<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-15" href="#footnote-15" target="_self">15</a> to Congress:</p><blockquote><p>The Congress shall have Power&#8230; To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water. </p><p>&#8212;<a href="https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript#1-8">Article I, Section 8</a></p></blockquote><p>This is the authority to &#8220;evaluate the conditions of moral legitimacy for war&#8221; spoken of by the Just War Theory. The President does not have it. Congress does.</p><p>The Founders did this in part simply to separate powers. The Founders separated powers because no one person or entity could be trusted with full power. During debate at the Constitutional Convention over this provision, Elbridge Gerry famously <a href="https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/debates_817.asp">remarked</a> that he &#8220;never expected to hear in a republic a motion to empower the Executive alone to make war.&#8221; As James Wilson <a href="https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C11-2-4/ALDE_00013915/">argued</a> at Pennsylvania&#8217;s ratifying convention:</p><blockquote><p>Th[e] [Constitution&#8217;s] system will not hurry us into war; it is calculated to guard against it. It will not be in the power of a single man, or a single body of men, to involve us in such distress; for the important power of declaring war is vested in the legislature at large: this declaration must be made with the concurrence of the House of Representatives: from this circumstance we may draw a certain conclusion that nothing but our national interest can draw us into a war.</p></blockquote><p>In part, though, they separated this specific power from the Executive because the Executive is <em>uniquely</em> dangerous in this regard. As Madison wrote to Jefferson in 1798:</p><blockquote><p>The constitution supposes, what the History of all Governments demonstrates, that the Executive is the branch of power most interested in war, &amp; most prone to it. It has accordingly with studied care, vested the question of war in the Legislative.</p></blockquote><p>He goes on in <a href="https://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_8_11s8.html">that letter</a> to complain about the possibility that a president could, by hook and crook, abuse his power to drag Congress into a position where it has no politically viable choice but to acquiesce to the President&#8217;s war of choice, writing, &#8220;it is evident that the people [would be] cheated out of the best ingredients in their Government, the safeguards of peace which is the greatest of their blessings.&#8221;</p><p>A third benefit of the Founders&#8217; assignment of the war-starting power to Congress is that it forced the nation into a discussion. President Bush very probably wanted to go to war with Iraq immediately by April 2002. He could not. He needed Congress on his side. He couldn&#8217;t just start a war on his own, then claim Congress was on his side when it inevitably failed to pass a War Powers Resolution <em>ending</em> the war. That would invert the Constitutional order, by allowing <em>one man</em> to start a war and a <em>minority</em> of Congress to continue it.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-16" href="#footnote-16" target="_self">16</a></p><p>That meant Bush had to talk to Congress. He had to talk to it a lot. It wasn&#8217;t enough to talk to Congress, either. Congress is a permanent prisoner of the election cycle, largely unable to do really unpopular things, so Bush had to talk to the voters, too.</p><p>As a result, America spent a full year talking, as a nation, about the just war criteria as applied to Iraq. We had raging national debates, including on the floor of Congress, about whether the cause was just, about its proportionality, about alternatives. Every point of the just war theory was litigated in endless detail at water coolers and dinner tables across the country. We spent months arguing whether a new war would be self-defensive enforcement of the terms of the Persian Gulf cease-fire (good), or a new preemptive war of aggression (bad). Bush was forced to pursue several alternatives that he probably didn&#8217;t really <em>want</em> to pursue, but political reality didn&#8217;t give him a choice. Only after those alternatives were exhausted could he launch the attack. When he did finally launch the attack, he had the great majority of the nation behind him. </p><p>That&#8217;s what happens when Congress has the power to declare war.</p><p>Now Donald Trump is showing us what happens when Congress, by negligence, loses that power. As Abe Lincoln <a href="https://papersofabrahamlincoln.org/documents/D200458">wrote to</a> his friend William Herndon in 1848:</p><blockquote><p>Kings had always been involving and impoverishing their people in wars, pretending generally, if not always, that the good of the people was the object&#8211; This, our convention understood to be the most oppressive of all Kingly oppressions; and they resolved to so frame the Constitution that no one man should hold the power of bringing this oppression upon us[.]</p></blockquote><p>Alas.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-17" href="#footnote-17" target="_self">17</a></p><h2>The Constitution is Not Amended by Disuse</h2><p>I say this kind of thing a lot, and one common response is a dejected sigh. &#8220;You&#8217;re right, James, of course this war is unconstitutional, on paper. But that paper is long dead. Presidents have been flagrantly usurping Congress&#8217;s war power for decades. Get real. Trump&#8217;s just the latest in a long line.&#8221;</p><p>First, I think this is much too cynical about the recent past. George W. Bush launched multiple wars, all of them legally, backed by authorizations from Congress that he had sought and received. George H.W. Bush, in launching the Persian Gulf War, sought and received an AUMF <em>and</em> the U.N.&#8217;s full blessing.</p><p>Even deviations from the war power have generally come cloaked in thick legal arguments, because even aggressive presidents mostly knew they had to have <em>some</em> fig leaf to justify an attack without Congress&#8217;s say-so. For example, I was just a baby when George Bush invaded Panama, so I&#8217;m not prepared to parse out the legal arguments, but Bush did try to <a href="https://www.gao.gov/assets/nsiad-91-174fs.pdf">justify his attack</a> under both self-defense and extradition rules. (Panama declared war on the U.S. just five days before our invasion, and U.S. troops had been killed as a result.)</p><p>Since I started paying attention to politics in 2000, I don&#8217;t think I saw a President truly, obviously, flagrantly try to steal Congress&#8217;s war power until 2011. That was the year President Obama started a clearly unconstitutional war with Libya. (It was unconstitutional for <a href="https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2013/09/10877/">all the same reasons</a><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-18" href="#footnote-18" target="_self">18</a> as Trump&#8217;s Iran War. Many of the Iran War&#8217;s loudest critics on my wall get <em>really</em> uncomfortably quiet after I say that, and remind them that he <a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2019/10/24/okay-lets-impeach-the-president/">should have been impeached</a>, too.) Illegal wars are getting more common, but they aren&#8217;t super-common, they&#8217;ve usually been quite rare, and we should not simply shrug our shoulders and give up on a provision of the Constitution that was working fine just two decades ago.</p><p>Even if the critics were right, though, that wouldn&#8217;t change anything. You should be furious that Mr. Trump has stolen the war power. He has robbed you of your birthright as an American citizen: peace, until Congress says otherwise. Whether it&#8217;s the first time you&#8217;ve been robbed or the twelfth, it&#8217;s still robbery! Subsequent robberies should make you <em>more</em> resistant, not less. Even if your city declares it will no longer enforce anti-robbery laws (which sounds like a joke but was as far as I can tell the actual policy of San Francisco for several years), robbery is still against the law, robbing people is unjust, and you should oppose the robbers. The best time to start impeaching and convicting Presidents for starting illegal wars was when they started, but the second-best time is tomorrow.</p><p>The Constitution is the supreme law of our land. Its provisions cannot be repealed by desuetude. Nor can they be rewritten by imperial presidents. The text of the Constitution remains the text, no matter what others say. </p><p>If the President wants more war powers, fine. If you, as a voter, think the Constitution&#8217;s separation of war powers no longer makes sense in our modern, hyper-connected world, fine. There&#8217;s a simple way to change the current settlement, proposed by the Founders and used twenty-seven times since: just amend the Constitution.</p><p>However, since that, too, involves talking to the American people, it&#8217;s not something these &#8220;realists&#8221; are inclined to try. They are more likely to scoff at you for suggesting that the modes of a Republic ought to be respected.</p><p>This is good evidence you should never, ever grant them the power they seek.</p><h2>Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran</h2><p>I&#8217;m not using this whole &#8220;follow the Constitution&#8221; thing as a stalking-horse for secret pinko anti-war sympathies. I am exactly the kind of person whose support the Trump Administration would have counted on in the public debate, if they had bothered to have a public debate.</p><p>I am, at heart, one of the last unreconstructed neoconservatives. When foreign people suffer under evil oppressors, I think it's good for the United States to use its vast military power to liberate the people and topple the oppressor. War is horrifying beyond all reason. But so is a tyrannical police state that slaughters tens of thousands of its own citizens for protesting the government. War is sometimes the lesser evil, and it is praiseworthy to exercise that terrible power on behalf of the suffering victims of tyrants.</p><p>The Iraq War did not change my mind about this. The Iraq War merely humbled me. My vocal support for the Iraq War&#8212;and, worse, my curt dismissal of all the critics&#8212;was one of the three greatest mistakes of my political life. Iraq taught me (at great cost) that it is very hard and expensive to liberate a people, and that a liberation gone wrong could easily be worse than leaving the evil oppressor in place. I have become much more reluctant to intervene, much more skeptical of U.S. intelligence reports. I now realize that, even though <em>some</em> are sure to cheer and greet us as liberators, a few people cheering on the street is not a nationally representative opinion poll. Someone pointed out to me recently that, if the E.U. invaded the U.S. today to topple Mr. Trump, there would be celebrations in the street from about 20% of us&#8230; while the other 80% would be furious. </p><p>I recognize now that, in Iraq, we asked thousands of <em>Americans</em>, who had signed up to defend <em>America</em>, to die for a people not their own, which isn&#8217;t fair to them. (Nor was the cost in gold fair to the American taxpayer.) I also see now how the Iraq War, and the calamitous failure of the Bush Administration to deliver what it had sold, deformed America&#8217;s domestic politics, leading us straight into the collapse of social trust and high polarization of the Obama-Trump Era. The cost of Iraq was far higher than I ever imagined.</p><p>Nevertheless, at bottom, I want the world to be free, and I think military force can, sometimes, be the least bad means of achieving it.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-19" href="#footnote-19" target="_self">19</a></p><p>Aside from being a brutal dictatorship that slaughters its own civilians by the hundreds (perhaps the tens of thousands), Iran really <em>has</em> been trying to build WMD for decades. A nuclear Islamic Republic would first dominate the region, then become a threat to the whole world, the center of a perverted Ummah backed by nuclear fire and mullahs happy to flirt with an apocalypse for the sake of their God.</p><p>As a result, if you&#8217;d asked me at almost any point in the last twenty years, &#8220;Should the United States go to war with Iran?&#8221; my answer would be somewhere between a non-committal shrug and a reluctant, &#8220;Maybe we should just get it over with.&#8221; (This made me one of the most pro-war American voters, especially around 2008-2010.) I&#8217;ve little doubt the cause would be just; it&#8217;s just the other just war criteria that have always hamstrung me. Even now, though, I remain cautiously hopeful that the results of this war (though illegal, therefore evil) could lead to a great deal of good. Imagine a Middle East free of Hezbollah and Hamas, free of the regional tensions between Iran and Israel, with a whole new nation&#8217;s worth of men and (especially) women free from the oppression of sharia law. If all goes perfectly well, an Iran war <em>could be</em> the dawn of peace in the Middle East. Iraq humbled me far too much to <em>expect</em> that, but I still hope.</p><div id="youtube2-U7s5pT3Rris" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;U7s5pT3Rris&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/U7s5pT3Rris?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><div class="pullquote"><p>I <a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2013/11/22/no-republicans-have-not-blocked-82-obama-nominees/">did not like</a> John McCain, but I was nevertheless one of almost a dozen Americans who did not find this joke offensive.</p></div><p>Much as I would have preferred a negotiated settlement that actually disarmed Iran (and, ideally, freed its long-suffering people), that was never really on the table, because Iran had no interest in such a settlement. I laughed at Obama&#8217;s JCPOA agreement with Iran, along with the rest of the Right, because it could never achieve what it set out to do. It probably was, as the Obama Admin argued, the best deal possible, but the best deal possible wasn&#8217;t good enough. Much as we might try to delay it (and I was all for delaying it), I didn&#8217;t see an alternative, in the long run, to eventually attacking Iran.</p><p>This would mean children killed by U.S. bombs. No matter how careful we are about it, no matter how just our cause, moms and dads in the war are going to come out of the rubble of a strike and find the broken body of their dead three-year-old, skull shattered, brain splashed across the ground, where he was playing with his toys a few minutes ago. It will be an accident, but the kid is still dead.</p><p>I just believed that, at some point, we would find ourselves in a position where attacking Iran would save more children than it killed. (The mullahs kill lots of people in their own country, and they are the puppeteers behind Hamas, Hezbollah, and a whole bunch of other child-killers around the Middle East.) Sometimes dropping bombs, even knowing that some will hit civilians, is the lesser evil. </p><p><em>But we&#8217;d better make damn sure of that before we open the bomb-bay doors.</em></p><p>The U.S. has a constitutional process designed to help make sure that we do, in fact, make damn sure. We did not follow it. We are not following it. We are not going to follow it. This war is illegal, and therefore unjust. 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My entirely unbiased and not-at-all made-up market research shows that reading <em>De Civ</em> is an unfailing signal of intelligence.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Here&#8217;s just an excerpt from our exchanges over the last 24 hours:</p><blockquote><p>GUY: I believe blowjobs are a form of disordered lust. I believe going down on your wife is a form of disordered lust. I believe it&#8217;s justifiable to use fingers to stimulate one&#8217;s wife to orgasm, if her needs are not met after a male orgasms. That&#8217;s the only correct option if such a moment arises. For you to claim Mary or Christ or the Church supports such an act or oral sex is blasphemy and sacrilege against the dignity of the flesh &amp; God&#8217;s innate Image.</p><p>ME: Why? Why are you drawing a distinction between fingers and mouths? What is that based on? And why are you so confident that I am a blasphemer when you seem unable to produce one solitary teaching document against cunnilingus? It wasn&#8217;t invented yesterday. The Romans had cunnilingus. Don&#8217;t you think that if it were immoral, the Church would have said so at some point? Do you really think you are making <em>yourself</em> look good in the eyes of the Lord and the Virgin when you go on the Internet accusing people of extremely serious sins without any evidence?</p><p>GUY: Fingers are the last stronghold against any other acts which go opposite the natural order of morality involving coitus in a fallen world. They are the last tools of aid for unity in the marriage bed. They are the purest form which passes trust from one another. Cunnilingus is abhorrent and defames the purity of God&#8217;s inherent plan pre fall and post fall in Eden. It supports perversion of inadequacy and nothing else. It&#8217;s blasphemy to speak for the Mother of God, that She would support humanity&#8217;s disability to try and solidify their brokenness which such mortal actions of impropriety. Yes, I am defending the True Christ &amp; His Image. You are guilty of leading your brothers and sisters away from purity of intention in the marriage bed. You have corrupted their innocence, promoting rotten fruit not in accordance with obedient passions, that therefore honor the God and His Mercy towards us in a fallen state.</p><p>ME: Why are fingers &#8220;the last stronghold&#8221; and not tongues? Why do you feel comfortable teaching things the Catholic Church has never taught?</p><p>GUY: I just told you why they are the last strongholds. I am comfortable because The Catholic Church teaches preservation from immorality. I am its faithful servant that honors its teachings of dignity considering our fallen nature. You are lost. You have been told. Your Guardian Angel bears witness to what I tell you. Your wicked theology of the flesh is not in accordance with the Image of God, pre eden and post eden. You promote what the world has infested the bedroom with, wickedness. Repent.</p><p>ME: You didn&#8217;t make an argument. You made some bald claims, several of which didn&#8217;t even make sense, none of which are supported by the Church, nor by the Bible, nor by Jesus. What are your <em>reasons</em> for treating digital and lingual stimulation of the clitoris as ontologically different? Where do you find these reasons <em>in the teachings of the Church</em>? As far as I can tell, you&#8212;respectfully&#8212;just made some stuff up and then started yelling it at me. I don&#8217;t think my guardian angel agrees with you. I don&#8217;t think what you are saying is right or just. I&#8217;m trying to listen to you, but I don&#8217;t get the sense that you&#8217;re listening to me. Am I wrong?</p></blockquote><p>&#8230;and so on in this vein.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>He soon insisted his claim was narrower than that: that Donald Trump had done a better job explaining the war to the American people, specifically through news interviews, specifically in the 48 hours since its commencement, than any President in living memory. But, since that claim is even more ludicrous, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m doing him a disservice by omitting that.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Any reasonable editor would have told me to cut this entire introduction, because it is long and meandering and only tenuously connected to the main legal argument. However, I thought it was entertaining, I&#8217;m not fighting for clicks, and I have no editor. Mwahaha! That&#8217;s the <em>De Civitate </em>Difference&#8482;!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I don&#8217;t really believe in &#8220;international law.&#8221; Human law comes from sovereign governments, and there is no sovereign global government. &#8220;International law&#8221; is a series of white papers published by a shadowy cabal of technocrats, most of whom seem to think of violence as a kind of relic of a barbaric past, rather than the guarantor of law.</p><p>However, I do believe in treaty obligations. Sovereigns can make treaties. They can also withdraw from treaties, but, until and unless they do, they are bound by their treaties. Our own Constitution confirms this in Article V, when it declares Senate-ratified treaties part of the law of the land. It is therefore necessary that the U.S. either engage in a good-faith effort to meet its treaty obligations, or formally withdraw from the treaty. President Bush appears to have felt likewise. </p><p>I understand that some U.N. members believe the U.S.&#8217;s efforts in 2002-03 were neither adequate nor, even, in good faith. I don&#8217;t agree with that. Iraq violated a ceasefire. The consequence of a ceasefire violation is a resumption of hostilities. In my view, <a href="https://docs.un.org/S/RES/1441(2002)">Res. 1441</a> was necessary only insofar as it formally confirmed Iraq had breached the ceasefire (<a href="https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/110709?v=pdf">Res. 687</a>).</p><p>Several U.N. members disagreed with me about this. On the other hand, quite a few members <em>did</em> agree. 41 countries sent troops! This was not a fringe view! Bush&#8217;s legal interpretation was, at least, well within conventional thinking.</p><p>The member states that dissented against the Iraq War could have made their contrary interpretation legally binding on the United States by passing either a new Security Council resolution or by expelling the United States under Article VI of the U.N. Charter. They did neither. First, as a practical matter, the U.N. depends upon the U.S. for its continued financial existence. Second, as a constitutional matter, the U.S. has the power to veto any attempt to expel it. This points to some fundamental constitutional defects at the U.N., but does not mean the U.S. neglected a good-faith effort to meet its treaty obligations. Likewise, the U.S. Congress could have rejected the President&#8217;s legal argument very easily, by simply taking no action, but, as we shall see, it didn&#8217;t.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The key word in a declaration of war is &#8220;authorize,&#8221; placed next to some predicate that means &#8220;military violence.&#8221; Examples:</p><p>The 2002 Iraq War AUMF: </p><blockquote><p>The President is <strong>authorized</strong> to use <strong>the Armed Forces of the United States</strong> as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to (1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and (2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.</p></blockquote><p>The 2001 Al-Qaeda AUMF: </p><blockquote><p>The President is <strong>authorized</strong> to use <strong>all necessary and appropriate force</strong> against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.</p></blockquote><p>The <a href="https://www.senate.gov/about/resources/pdf/sjres116-wwii-japan.pdf">1941 Declaration of War against Japan</a>:</p><blockquote><p>&#8230;the President is hereby <strong>authorized</strong> and directed to <strong>employ the entire naval and military forces of the United States</strong> and the resources of the government to carry on war against the Imperial Government of Japan&#8230;</p></blockquote><p>The <a href="https://www.senate.gov/about/resources/pdf/hr145-mexican-american-war.pdf">1846 Declaration of War against Mexico</a>:</p><blockquote><p>&#8230;the President be, and he is hereby, <strong>authorized</strong> to <strong>employ the militia, naval, and military forces of the United States</strong>&#8230;</p></blockquote><p>Often, the enemy has already declared war or made war against us, as in 1941, so Congress does not so much start a war as declare the war recognized. In <em>all</em> cases, however, the decisive moment is when Congress formally authorizes the President to use the military against an enemy.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This limited first strike was an attempt to kill or incapacitate Saddam, Uday, and Qusay, reported to be staying at a retreat called Dora Farms overnight. However, according to <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-cia-officer-on-the-strike-that-could-have-averted-iraq-war/">some reports</a>, President Bush ordered the strike delayed until his 48-hour ultimatum had expired, as an honorable man must. Unfortunately, some reports indicate that Saddam was there, but left shortly before the ultimatum expired.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The most potent charge against Bush was retired ambassador Joe Wilson&#8217;s claim that the Bush Administration <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/06/opinion/what-i-didn-t-find-in-africa.html?pagewanted=all">fabricated</a> a story, based on obvious forgeries, that Iraq had bought uranium yellowcake in Africa. Wilson&#8217;s charge was false, and Wilson was a huge partisan hack (as was his wife, the soon-to-be-famous Valerie Plame). </p><p>The Bush Administration accused Iraq of <em>seeking</em> uranium yellowcake in Africa. In 2005 or so, I read the Senate Intelligence Committee report on Iraq WMD (the sections on Niger and the nuclear program, specifically, I read cover-to-cover). This revealed three things:</p><ol><li><p>Saddam Hussein probably <em>was</em> seeking yellowcake in Africa (which was a breach in itself).</p></li><li><p>He almost certainly never found a willing seller, so he never actually obtained any.</p></li><li><p>President Bush was honestly reading and acting on the intelligence estimates he was receiving from his government. Bush didn&#8217;t lie.</p></li></ol><p>That being said, I do not exonerate the American government on its titanic intelligence failure in Iraq. Years later, I saw Armando Iannucci&#8217;s dark comedy <em><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQrqMkCuHqA">In The Loop</a> </em>(starring an <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ootNMaQiPM">incredibly vulgar</a> Doctor Who), and my experience reading the Senate Intelligence Committee report told me that this was, spiritually, the most accurate telling of the character flaws and telephone games that that allowed the global intelligence community&#8212;and, yes, the White House&#8212;to trick itself into believing something that was catastrophically false.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Well, okay, many argue that Clinton <em>may</em> have bombed Iraq simply to distract from the fact he&#8217;d boned an intern he wasn&#8217;t married to and committed a federal crime, perjury, to cover up the scandal, but, at the very least, his <em>pretext</em> was Iraq&#8217;s WMD program, and nobody doubted that was pretext was legitimate. </p><p>And perhaps Clinton&#8217;s motivations had nothing to do with the Lewinsky scandal at all. Perhaps he had motives as pure as Bush&#8217;s. I am asking some readers to be more generous to George W. Bush than they would like, so the least I can do is try to extend some similar generosity to Clinton.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>When I say, &#8220;out of nowhere,&#8221; I do not mean to imply that I was stunned by the attack or that it came without signs and portents. I can read a deployment map. My mother asked me point-blank on Sunday night, a week or two before the war, &#8220;Are we going to go to war with Iran?&#8221; and was a little startled when I said, flatly, &#8220;Yes.&#8221; Practically every American tanker in the world had been flown to the Middle East over the preceding weeks. Of course we were going to war.</p><p>It has also been clear for some time that the Second Trump Administration considers Iran a key threat, especially after the October 7 massacre orchestrated by Iran through its proxies. This Administration, as well as its allies in the Israeli government, have systematically degraded Iranian power since October 7. It was not exactly a surprise that they escalated.</p><p>The war came &#8220;out of nowhere&#8221; all the same. The American people were not clamoring for it. They weren&#8217;t even discussing it. It wasn&#8217;t even in the news cycle. We are a week into this war and we are still guessing wildly at the Administration&#8217;s war aims. Is this a regime change war? Every Trump supporter I&#8217;ve spoken to is very clear what the answer is and insists everyone with a different answer is a stupid idiot&#8230; but they themselves have different answers. What&#8217;s our plan? I guess we&#8217;re arming the Kurds and hoping the people rise up? When do we stop? &#8220;Unconditional surrender,&#8221; according to Trump today, so we&#8217;re going to own Iran after this is over? What&#8217;s that look like? Do we want that? Is Iran even the real target here? Are we doing this to affect China?</p><p>These are all questions that would have and should have been asked, had the President started this war legally.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Perhaps this is a bit <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_tan_suit_controversy">tan-suit</a> of me, but I considered it an added insult that Mr. Trump didn&#8217;t even address us from the Oval Office or the Cross Hall, and he did it wearing a gaudy &#8220;USA&#8221; baseball cap. This is a war. You have just killed people. Some of them were innocents, unavoidable even in a just war. Americans will soon die. Show some goddamn respect!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I have a very, very old unpublished <em>De Civ</em> draft from right after Assad used chemical weapons on insurgents arguing that the U.S. ought to attack to enforce the norm against chemical and biological weapons.</p><p>Incidentally, you have to admit that it <em>was</em> a little odd that we never found any chemical or biological weapons in Iraq, but, a decade after the Iraq War, Assad showed us that he <em>did</em> have all that stuff now. Syria borders Iraq. The drive from Baghdad to Damascus is just 10 hours, about the same as the drive from the Twin Cities to Louisville, KY. There were quiet rumors at the time that Assad had helped out his old buddy Saddam when the U.S. rolled in. </p><p>I don&#8217;t actually believe Syria took Iraq&#8217;s WMD stockpiles in 2002-2004 as a favor to Saddam. The official story still seems more likely. But I do still think it&#8217;s <em>possible</em>. Maybe if I looked into it fiercely for the first time in many, many years, I would discover it has been definitively disproven, but it hadn&#8217;t been last time around.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-13" href="#footnote-anchor-13" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">13</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>One interesting consequence of this is that a war might meet the just war criteria for one belligerent while being unjust for one of its allies. For example, as far as I know, Israel&#8217;s current war on Iran is entirely legal under the laws of Israel. While I must stand foursquare against Operation Epic Fury (the American campaign), I am actually (as we will see later on) somewhat inclined to <em>support</em> Operation Lion&#8217;s Roar (the Israeli campaign).</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-14" href="#footnote-anchor-14" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">14</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Because the Constitution views Congress as the <em>primus inter pares</em>, it allows Congress to supervise pretty nearly anything it likes.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-15" href="#footnote-anchor-15" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">15</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>Almost</em> exclusively. The President has <em>some</em> inherent authority under Article IV, Section 4 to respond to insurrection. The President also (arguably) has <em>some</em> inherent authority to respond to direct attack or invasion, under that same provision:</p><blockquote><p>The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence. &#8212;Article IV, Section 4</p></blockquote><p>(NOTE: &#8220;domestic violence&#8221; meaning here means insurrection, not wife-beating. Thanks, originalism!)</p><p>For what it&#8217;s worth, virtually every modern authority agrees that the President <em>does</em> have inherent authority to respond to direct attack / invasion. Even if he doesn&#8217;t have inherent authority, however, Congress granted him statutory authority to do so under the War Powers Resolution, so the point is academic:</p><blockquote><p>The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to (1) a declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization, or (3) <strong>a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.</strong> </p><p>&#8212;key text of the War Powers Resolution, 50 USC 1541 <em>[emphasis added]</em></p></blockquote><p>But if the war isn&#8217;t in response to present kinetic attack or invasion (or perhaps an imminent one), the President is not the competent authority designated by the Constitution.</p><p>And, no, the fact that Mr. Trump said <em>the words</em> &#8220;imminent threat&#8221; in his eight-minute Truth Social video does not, in fact, <em>create</em> an imminent threat, nor even the legal fiction of one. Quite apart from failing to provide any evidence of an imminent threat, he forgot to even <em>describe</em> anything <em>resembling</em> an imminent threat in the constitutional sense. The <em>Caroline </em>Test, an American-coined international law formula, suggests that a threat is imminent (in this sense) only when it makes the &#8220;necessity of self-defense&#8230; instant, overwhelming, leaving no choice of means, and no moment of deliberation.&#8221; No one, including Mr. Trump, has even pretended to suggest that Iran posed a threat of this kind. Trump&#8217;s actual War Powers Resolution <a href="https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/27725118-war-powers-report-iran/#document/p1">report to Congress</a>, explaining his (unauthorized, illegal) war to them, makes no mention of an imminent attack.</p><p>Some argue that the commander-in-chief designation gives the President power to declare war by himself when he sees it as vital to foreign policy. This is a constitutional absurdity, as it not only renders Congress&#8217;s war-declaring power redundant, but defies what we know about the original public meaning of &#8220;commander-in-chief.&#8221; Take Madison in <em>Federalist 69</em>:</p><blockquote><p>[T]he President is to be Commander in Chief of the army and navy of the United States. In this respect his authority would be nominally the same with that of the King of Great-Britain, but in substance much inferior to it. It would amount to nothing more than the supreme command and direction of the military and naval forces, as first General and Admiral of the confederacy; while that of the British King extends to the <em>declaring</em> of war and to the <em>raising</em> and <em>regulating</em> of fleets and armies; all which by the Constitution under consideration would appertain to the Legislature. <em>[emphasis in original]</em></p></blockquote><p>Using the commander-in-chief power to start wars is just an excuse.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-16" href="#footnote-anchor-16" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">16</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I wrote this Friday night. Saturday morning, I woke up to a <a href="https://www.facebook.com/clayton.wood.338/posts/pfbid0JXvrHPt5qdu4eHL63FqonD7YjFwHEbRjfhoXzdnG8B82NCmuDffQjE75t6YdrGKCl">slightly-viral Facebook post</a> which although it included some welcome sobriety about the situation, also made just this (absurd) argument:</p><blockquote><p><strong>Congress and the Constitutional Question</strong></p><p>Congress was notified before the strikes began.</p><p>The Senate has since voted to continue authorizing the operation.</p><p>The constitutional concern about a president launching major military action announced on social media in the middle of the night was real and worth raising.</p><p>But Congress has now formally weighed in.</p><p>That vote matters for both domestic legitimacy and international standing.</p></blockquote><p>The Senate has <em>not</em> voted to authorize this war; rather, it narrowly failed to pass a resolution ending it. Even if it had voted to authorize the war, it would be irrelevant, since <em>both houses of Congress</em> must <em>affirmatively</em> declare war. Congress&#8217;s shirking of one of its core powers is, of course, shameful and humiliating. Congress has been shameful and humiliated so often during this century one can&#8217;t help suspecting that the members get off on it. It would be better for the nation if members of the President&#8217;s party showed up to work in gimp suits whimpering for &#8220;daddy&#8221; to teach them a lesson.</p><p>Nevertheless, the war remains unauthorized and unconstitutional. This is not a close question.</p><p>Pressed on the point, defenders of the war in Congress are quickly reduced to mumbling about &#8220;targeted strikes of limited duration&#8221; or (the favorite excuse from the unconstitutional 2011 Libya war) &#8220;kinetic military action.&#8221; Because a war magically stops being a war if we refuse to say &#8220;war&#8221; out loud. Except&#8230; Mr. Trump didn&#8217;t get the memo, called it a &#8220;war&#8221; in his initial address, and has referred to it as a &#8220;war&#8221; several times since. Because duh.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-17" href="#footnote-anchor-17" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">17</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>An interesting question I&#8217;m not going to explore today: given that the Iran War is unconstitutional, and given that U.S. servicemembers swear an oath to the Constitution, are current members of the U.S. armed forces permitted, or even obligated, to refuse orders that would have them participate in this unauthorized war?</p><p>To be clear, I don&#8217;t think any actual real-life servicemembers should refuse orders until the question has been thoroughly examined. It would be too easy for me, as an armchair lawyer, to say something here that would, if acted on, get an actual U.S. soldier imprisoned or shot, so I&#8217;ll say that again: I don&#8217;t think anyone should refuse orders right now. </p><p>Nevertheless, I think the question deserves some intellectual attention from those competent in military law, the law of war, and the proper role of our military in &#8220;supporting and defending&#8221; the Constitution when it is our own government that is attacking it. Their conclusions might need to be applied at some future date.</p><p>After all, the military is the guarantor of the Constitution. If they refused, with one voice, to carry out this illegal campaign, Mr. Trump&#8217;s usurpation of the Constitution would immediately stop. Would this refusal to submit to the commander-in-chief awaken greater evils, though? Possibly. So, for now, this is just something to think about.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-18" href="#footnote-anchor-18" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">18</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>That linked article, &#8220;<a href="https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2013/09/10877/">How to Avoid an Unconstitutional War</a>&#8221; by Michael Stokes Paulsen, is excellent and I recommend it. He wrote a follow-up in 2025, &#8220;<a href="https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2025/07/98483/">How to Start Another Unconstitutional War</a>,&#8221; expanding on his earlier argument and addressing the then-current Trump strikes on Iran&#8217;s nuclear facilities.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-19" href="#footnote-anchor-19" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">19</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Look, I made an <a href="https://www.japanesewithanime.com/2016/07/omake.html">omake</a> for today&#8217;s article:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ReA0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9931c959-125f-4c78-bef8-1df859295aef_733x499.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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Heaney]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2026 22:32:28 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QO8Y!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F63be30f3-d372-45e1-87a9-25724b45c624_608x427.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QO8Y!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F63be30f3-d372-45e1-87a9-25724b45c624_608x427.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QO8Y!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F63be30f3-d372-45e1-87a9-25724b45c624_608x427.png 424w, 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This old social movement brought together communities to hear great ideas from great figures like Mark Twain and Abe Lincoln&#8212;and then to discuss those ideas among themselves.</p><p>I&#8217;m no Mark Twain, but I have nevertheless been asked to participate in a panel discussion / conversation at the St. Paul Lyceum this Thursday (two days from now).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.eventbrite.com/e/civility-peace-tickets-1982450989275&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;More Info / Tickets&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/civility-peace-tickets-1982450989275"><span>More Info / Tickets</span></a></p><p>Our topic is Civility &amp; Peace:</p><blockquote><p>Recent episodes of political violence have left many wondering what kind of civic life we are entering. As distrust rises and Americans grow more distant from one another, what are the prospects for civility and peace? What holds a society together when disagreement deepens? And what happens when those bonds begin to fray?</p></blockquote><p>I&#8217;m not sure when the Lyceum picked this topic, but, in the wake of local ICE operations and two killings, not to mention the assassination of House Speaker Melissa Hortman last year, these questions are <em>very</em> timely (perhaps even a little sensitive) here in the Twin Cities.</p><p>The Lyceum will meet at the Yoerg Brewing Company in Regular Saint Paul. I&#8217;ve been told to expect 15-30 people. </p><p>Doors open at 5:30 to get drinks and make friends, panel from 6:00-7:00, table discussion from 7:00-8:00. Tickets are $10, but, with every paid admission, you can bring one friend for free. (This is a not-so-subtle way of encouraging friendship and community.)</p><p>The discussion will be moderated by Evan Beacom, organizer of the St. Paul Lyceum (and&#8212;I learned as a result of this&#8212;a thorough reader of <em>De Civ</em>). I will be up alongside the estimable philosopher and writer Dr. Rachel Lu, associate editor at <em>Law &amp; Liberty</em>. (She&#8217;s also appeared in Worthy Reads at least twice, and she is terrific.)</p><p>For more information and to purchase advance tickets, see the EventBrite page:</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.eventbrite.com/e/civility-peace-tickets-1982450989275&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;More Info / Tickets&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/civility-peace-tickets-1982450989275"><span>More Info / Tickets</span></a></p><p>I am excited about this. I am also pretty nervous! I have never been invited to do anything like this before. It&#8217;s an honor to be thought of as any kind of respectable thinker. At the same time, I&#8217;ve always considered myself a poor extemporaneous speaker, and I have what they used to call &#8220;a real face for blogging&#8221;:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!32I5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa3e2ed35-443f-4662-b141-a181ffb51414_636x848.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!32I5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa3e2ed35-443f-4662-b141-a181ffb51414_636x848.jpeg 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/who-misquoted-the-14th-amendment">Remember this?</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>So, if you come, there&#8217;s a real chance you&#8217;ll be paying $10 to watch me humiliate myself!<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> However, Dr. Lu alone is worth the price of admission and will carry the night if I fall apart under the bright lights. I&#8217;m trying to find time tomorrow to re-read some things and put together a few notes on index cards, so I don&#8217;t just spend my whole time up there stammering.</p><p>If you, too, want to pregame, you might enjoy reading Lu&#8217;s excellent &#8220;<a href="https://lawliberty.org/the-terrible-smallness-of-public-killers/">The Terrible Smallness of Public Killers</a>,&#8221; and my own &#8220;<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/one-reason-to-punch-nazis">One Reason to Punch Nazis (and Two Reasons Not To)</a>.&#8221; </p><p>At some point, I&#8217;m very likely to find some excuse to pull out my old schtick about &#8220;the two causes of civil war are partisan hatred and legitimacy crisis,&#8221; a theme I explored at length in &#8220;<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/review-of-ross-douthats-reviews-of">Review of Ross Douthat&#8217;s Review(s) of </a><em><a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/review-of-ross-douthats-reviews-of">Civil War</a></em>&#8221; and, of course, that one time I wrote a novella that <a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2020/08/23/and-the-war-came/">accidentally predicted January 6</a>.</p><p>I hope one or two of you are able to make it! I will be staying for the post-panel conversations and perhaps even a few minutes beyond the end of the schedule, so it would be lovely to meet anyone out there in Readerland who&#8217;s in the area and able to make it into Saint Paul on a weeknight.</p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Sorry for the short notice!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Perhaps I should use this line to advertise it to my enemies! &#8220;Come to the Lyceum and watch James flail! Laugh when he does!&#8221;</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[DULUTH! Its Dulcet Syllables Ravish My Delighted Ear!]]></title><description><![CDATA[A Double-Length Worthy Reads for February 2026]]></description><link>https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/duluth-its-dulcet-syllables-ravish</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/duluth-its-dulcet-syllables-ravish</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[James J. Heaney]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2026 15:01:48 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CgGo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0e395a7-3d95-4fe6-8e45-472dc6a46d2e_1440x600.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Welcome to Worthy Reads, where I share some links that I think are worth your time. Everyone gets the first half. The second half is paywalled. The paylisters keep me writing, though, and this is <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/subscriber-perks">their special treat</a>. If you want all-in, <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/subscribe">subscribing is cheap</a>.</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CgGo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0e395a7-3d95-4fe6-8e45-472dc6a46d2e_1440x600.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CgGo!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0e395a7-3d95-4fe6-8e45-472dc6a46d2e_1440x600.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CgGo!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0e395a7-3d95-4fe6-8e45-472dc6a46d2e_1440x600.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CgGo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0e395a7-3d95-4fe6-8e45-472dc6a46d2e_1440x600.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CgGo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0e395a7-3d95-4fe6-8e45-472dc6a46d2e_1440x600.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CgGo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0e395a7-3d95-4fe6-8e45-472dc6a46d2e_1440x600.jpeg" width="1440" height="600" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c0e395a7-3d95-4fe6-8e45-472dc6a46d2e_1440x600.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:600,&quot;width&quot;:1440,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CgGo!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0e395a7-3d95-4fe6-8e45-472dc6a46d2e_1440x600.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CgGo!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0e395a7-3d95-4fe6-8e45-472dc6a46d2e_1440x600.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CgGo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0e395a7-3d95-4fe6-8e45-472dc6a46d2e_1440x600.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CgGo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc0e395a7-3d95-4fe6-8e45-472dc6a46d2e_1440x600.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">&#8220;The elements of material nature would long since have resolved themselves back into original chaos if there had been such a hiatus in creation as would have resulted from leaving out Duluth.&#8221; <em>(Photo credit: <a href="http://visitduluth.com">VisitDuluth.com</a>)</em></figcaption></figure></div><div><hr></div><h3>&#8220;<a href="https://walkingtheworld.substack.com/p/walking-duluth">Walking Duluth</a>,&#8221; by Chris Arnade:</h3><blockquote><p>When I asked him his backstory (born and raised in Duluth, worked at the hospital) and if he thought of moving, he looked at me like I was a crazy person, asking a crazy question. Move? What do you mean? Why? The weather? You mean to someplace where I couldn&#8217;t go out on the ice and catch fish? Where I couldn&#8217;t go hunting in the afternoon? Where I couldn&#8217;t have dinner with my parents at night? Where I couldn&#8217;t hang with my buddies at Roscoe&#8217;s?</p><p>Place still matters to Americans, and few places place as hard as Duluth does.</p></blockquote><p>For nearly ten years now, I&#8217;ve enjoyed Chris Arnade&#8217;s travelogues from far-flung places. He strikes me as having a talent for finding the soul of a place. Place is a vanishing thing in this hyperconnected world, but Arnade susses it out everywhere he goes. Of course, since I&#8217;ve never been to most of those places, I didn&#8217;t have any way to validate what he wrote. </p><p>But, this time, he came to <em>my</em> backyard to write about <em>my </em>people.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p><p>I love this piece for lots of reasons, though, and only <em>most</em> of them are parochial.</p><p>I think a place matters a great deal. I&#8217;m not sure I can articulate why, except to refer you to my favorite work of G.K. Chesterton&#8217;s: his pre-conversion novel <em><a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/20058/20058-h/20058-h.htm">The Napoleon of Notting Hill</a></em>. In this peculiar, remarkable book, Chesterton frankly admits that to care intensely about one particular patch of streets and dirt&#8212;to elevate one dreary London suburb above every other London suburb&#8212;just because it happens to be <em>yours&#8230; </em>is utterly absurd.<em> </em>Then he turns around and insists that it is sacred anyway:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Only feeling, sire,&#8221; answered the Provost. &#8220;I was born, like other men, in a spot of the earth which I loved because I had played boys&#8217; games there, and fallen in love, and talked with my friends through nights that were nights of the gods. And I feel the riddle. These little gardens where we told our loves. These streets where we brought out our dead. Why should they be commonplace? Why should they be absurd? Why should it be grotesque to say that a pillar-box is poetic when for a year I could not see a red pillar-box against the yellow evening in a certain street without being wracked with something of which God keeps the secret, but which is stronger than sorrow or joy? Why should any one be able to raise a laugh by saying &#8216;the Cause of Notting Hill&#8217;?&#8212;Notting Hill where thousands of immortal spirits blaze with alternate hope and fear.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>So long as the loons cry out over the frozen lakes, so long as men say &#8220;you bet&#8221; while shoveling their neighbors sidewalks, there is a part of me always ready to man the battlements at Fort Snelling, tho&#8217; it be ringed about by all the armies of Wisconsin, and die for Minnesota. This seems good and healthy and normal to me. </p><p>It seems that many Minnesotans feel something like this, somewhere inside them. Contrary to popular belief, we are not a nation of movers, racing all over the country to find the best opportunities. That&#8217;s the impression we sometimes get from the media. It&#8217;s part of our national story, and it&#8217;s very typical of the rich and powerful. Nevertheless, according to <a href="https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/data/2024/1_year_geographic_comparison_tables/GCT0601.csv">the Census</a>, two-thirds of Americans currently reside in the state where they were born. In Minnesota, that figure rises to just shy of three-quarters. An <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/12/24/upshot/24up-family.html">overwhelming majority</a> of Americans live less than an hour from their mothers; a solid third of Americans live <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7537569/">within 30 miles</a> of <em>all</em> their adult children and parents. We are a rooted people! The human species puts down roots!</p><p>Of course, a lot of this is about wealth. The rich and powerful leave their homes, in part, because they have enough money or social capital to do so. For the rest of us, much of our wealth <em>is</em> in our homelands: the plumber who&#8217;s a friend of the family who will do you a favor if you promise to return it later on. The old friends who pitch in to help you move when you get out of the apartment. The parents willing to contribute enough free child care to make your two-income household actually make economic sense. This is all literal monetary GDP-style <em>wealth</em>. Many of us couldn&#8217;t financially afford to live apart from our roots, even if someone paid all the costs of moving across the country. </p><p>On the other hand, many of us don&#8217;t want to move anyway. Our places are thick with the intangibles that make life actually worth living. My evenings with my parents eating free food are economically rational, sure&#8230; but also something I look forward to every week, because my parents are delightful. I wouldn&#8217;t give up Thursday night burgers for a million bucks.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> Nor would I give up sledding days, or the autumn leaves, or the frantic rush to enjoy summer while it lasts, even if it meant I never had to rev up my snowblower again.</p><p>You feel all this in Arnade&#8217;s piece. It is a good piece. Go enjoy a few minutes in Duluth.</p><p>When you are finished, perhaps you may also enjoy Rep. Proctor Knott (D-KY)&#8217;s <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Untold_Delights_of_Duluth">famous 1871 ode to Duluth</a>. Knott was being sarcastic (see also: these <a href="https://storage.googleapis.com/mnhs-org-support/mn_history_articles/34/v34i02p067-078.pdf">background details</a>), but Minnesotans, with the passive-aggressive cheerfulness for which we are justly famous, refused to recognize the sarcasm, and have celebrated the speech ever since:</p><blockquote><p>Duluth! The word fell upon my ear with peculiar and indescribable charm, like the gentle murmur of a low fountain stealing forth in the midst of roses, or the soft, sweet accents of an angel&#8217;s whisper in the bright, joyous dream of sleeping innocence. Duluth! &#8216;Twas the name for which my soul had panted for years, as the hart panteth for the water-brooks.</p></blockquote><p>Of course, given ICE activity in my <a href="https://weststpaulreader.com/2026/01/13/ice-in-west-st-paul/">actual neighborhood</a> over the past few weeks, I can&#8217;t help reading all this back to myself and turning my thoughts to the immigrant. Given how much most normal people value their place, how much must it <em>hurt</em> to leave that place, especially for an entirely new country? My great-great-grandmother left one of the most beautiful counties in Ireland in 1873 for Ellis Island. She never saw Ireland again. She did that for us. It cost her dearly. This is why exile was once the worst penalty that a criminal could face, short of execution. We may reasonably assume, then, that, whatever their <em>legality</em>, most immigrants do not come to America <em>lightly</em>. For the same reason, deportation is an awful punishment&#8212;even though generally <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/ice-in-the-twin-cities-an-faq">lawful</a> and often necessary&#8212;which we should inflict only with great sobriety and sorrow, especially on those who have been here long enough to put down roots.</p><p>Similarly, our civil war is going to hurt. Indeed, it&#8217;s already hurting. I know people who have left their Minnesota homeland simply so they can live in a red state. I know people who have moved to Minnesota from <em>that same red state</em> simply so they could live in a blue state. We all know others like this. Given the tribes&#8217; sharply divergent visions of the Good, I think political relocation is an entirely defensible choice. But the cost is sharp, the fact they are willing to pay it to be with their own tribe is alarming, and it&#8217;s only going to get worse as polarization deepens toward violence. My nightmare is finding myself at the final battle for Minnesota after all&#8230; but as part of the invading army.</p><div><hr></div><h3><a href="https://lydialaurenson.substack.com/p/my-recording-of-raissa-from-invisible">A Recording of &#8220;Raissa&#8221; from </a><em><a href="https://lydialaurenson.substack.com/p/my-recording-of-raissa-from-invisible">Invisible Cities</a></em>, by Lydia Laurenson:</h3><blockquote><p><em><strong>Raissa</strong></em></p><p>In Raissa, life is not happy. People wring their hands as they walk in the streets, curse the crying children, lean on the railings over the river and press their fists to their temples. In the morning you wake from one bad dream and another begins. At the workbenches where, every moment, you hit your finger with a hammer or prick it with a needle, or over the columns of figures all awry in the ledgers of merchants and bankers, or at the rows of empty glasses on the zinc counters of the wineshops, the bent heads at least conceal the general grim gaze. Inside the houses it is worse, and you do not have to enter to learn this: in the summer the windows resound with quarrels and broken dishes.</p><p>And yet, in Raissa, at every moment there is a child in a window who laughs seeing a dog that has jumped on a shed to bite into a piece of polenta dropped by a stonemason who has shouted from the top of the scaffolding, &#8220;Darling, let me dip into it,&#8221; to a young serving-maid who holds up a dish of ragout under the pergola, happy to serve it to the umbrella-maker who is celebrating a successful transaction, a white lace parasol bought to display at the races by a great lady in love with an officer who has smiled at her taking the last jump, happy man, and still happier his horse, flying over the obstacles, seeing a francolin flying in the sky, happy bird freed from its cage by a painter happy at having painted it feather by feather, speckled with red and yellow in the illumination of that page in the volume where the philosopher says: &#8220;Also in Raissa, city of sadness, there runs an invisible thread that binds one living being to another for a moment, then unravels, then is stretched again between moving points as it draws new and rapid patterns so that at every second the unhappy city contains a happy city unaware of its own existence.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>It seems like every smart, cool person read <em>Invisible Cities</em> years before I ever even heard of it.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> I remain very grateful to the friend of mine who gave it to me as a Christmas present.</p><p>It&#8217;s a very strange book. It isn&#8217;t a story. It&#8217;s a series of short prose-poems, like the one above about Raissa (which I have reprinted in its entirety). Each prose-poem describes a different city. Every city described is completely imaginary, often outright fantastical. Yet every city has something special that is at once unique and universal.</p><p>I limited myself to reading one city per night, so as to enjoy them each to the full. The book is not long, only 55 cities in total, none longer than a few pages. Laurenson&#8217;s page has several of them, which gives you a nice taste of the book. (The recording itself is better on speakers than headphones.)</p><h3>&#8220;<strong><a href="https://barsoom.substack.com/p/a-partial-explanation-of-zoomer-girl">A Partial Explanation of Zoomer Girl Derangement</a></strong>,&#8221; by Zinnia:</h3><blockquote><p>Girlhood ends when the world looks at you. One day, you wake up and you&#8217;re a sex object. This is terrifying. Men want you and they are bigger than you and stronger than you. They do not see you, they just like what they see. Hungry eyes: how do you keep rabid animals at bay? But if you are of a certain disposition, you may feel a certain kind of thrill, walking into a room and having all eyes on you. Men may be bigger and stronger, but you are smarter. If you bat your eyes at the man from across the bar, he&#8217;ll buy you a drink; if you cry when the police officer pulls you over, he&#8217;ll let you off easy.</p><p>As you come of age, you must confront a paradox: your greatest source of power, your desirability, is your greatest source of vulnerability. Girls react to this paradox in various ways: some girls retreat into themselves, despising the male gaze; others embrace it, perhaps out of insecurity, perhaps out of ambition. Whatever the case may be, as you come of age, you come to terms with it. You accept your desirability, but you do not let it define you; you pursue other things, hobbies, interests, passions. You do not resent the male gaze, but you do not hunger for it either. This is the healthiest way to come to terms with your newfound status as &#8220;sex-object.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>Unlike the author of this article, I have never been a Zoomer girl. I welcome Zoomers and/or girls to tell me if this article is right. As a Millennial boy, however, this one rings true. Girls start out as just a somewhat confounding species of people, and then, gradually, you find that a cute girl&#8217;s laugh makes you weak in the knees, and a well-endowed girl teaches you that hypnosis <em>isn&#8217;t</em> just something they made up for Saturday morning cartoons. </p><p>This is terrifying. For a man, adolescence begins when he finds himself carried away by a powerful beast, galloping faster than he previously imagined possible, completely out of control. It ends when he bridles that beast. (Some never do.) However, at least we&#8217;re <em>riding</em> the beast! Women are stuck standing in front of it! That must be terrifying!</p><p>I like this piece because it goes through several seemingly unconnected disorders common to modern women and, with admirable economy, suggests that they are all simply disordered responses to awareness of the male gaze. Of course, the truth is rarely so monocausal. Reality is much too complicated. However, there are a lot of weird things going on in male-female relations right now, and it would be a lot <em>less</em> weird if they were all at least connected by some common explanation.</p><p>Curiously, the author wrote this piece to launch her Substack almost two years ago. It went moderately viral, successful far beyond anything I&#8217;ve ever published&#8230; and then she never published anything again. <a href="https://x.com/zinniaa_3">Tweets a lot</a>, though, so I guess she&#8217;s okay&#8212;or, at least, as okay as anyone who tweets a lot ever is.</p><div><hr></div><h3>&#8220;<strong><a href="https://www.plough.com/en/topics/life/relationships/my-childhood-friend-renee-good">My Childhood Friend, Renee Good</a></strong>,&#8221; by Jane Clark Scharl:</h3><blockquote><p>Here&#8217;s what I remember about Renee: she was gentle and thoughtful, very much so. She was, even as a teenager, a remarkably careful listener. Even during high school &#8211; years when many of us turn inward and become self-obsessed &#8211; Renee persisted in looking out for others. She had beautiful light-blue eyes, and the rare ability to look directly into another&#8217;s eyes while they spoke.</p><p>She had a beautiful voice, too, both singing and speaking. Her speaking voice was a little husky, but when she sang, it was clear and sweet. I have a distinct memory of standing in our newly completed youth group room one Sunday evening &#8211; it must have been winter because it was dark outside &#8211; singing praise and worship songs. We were Presbyterian, so we weren&#8217;t particularly good at singing praise and worship, but I remember Renee&#8217;s voice coming through, confident and lovely, carrying the rest of us.</p></blockquote><p>This article is a simple enough plea to remember the human. It breaks no new theoretical ground. It will not change your mind about Policy or Justice or any other capital-p Principles. But the world is not fundamentally <em>about </em>capital-p Principles, any more than the world is fundamentally about capital-p Physics. The world is about <em>us</em>. 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Heaney]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2026 11:44:12 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3v5j!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4123f808-63fd-469f-9ec7-667bd1c0e20b_3840x1600.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3v5j!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4123f808-63fd-469f-9ec7-667bd1c0e20b_3840x1600.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Obi-Wan is so smug when he <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nO0uJenOgw">says it</a>. Now I&#8217;m glad <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_ZRsf9sneQ">he&#8217;s laundry</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><p>The information environment in the Twin Cities is completely cracked, and has been for weeks. You can&#8217;t trust anything the federal government says, you can&#8217;t trust anything the protesters say, and you can&#8217;t trust anything local officials say. They&#8217;re all lying, constantly, and it takes days to sort out the truth about anything.</p><p>My local Target has faced two sit-in protests over a racist incident at a different Target that never actually <em>happened</em>. The Department of Homeland Security officially published a verifiably false set of claims about a man the Border Patrol had just gunned down in the street, in a transparent attempt to libel him for political gain. A woman who took her kids to a declared riot (and thereby got them tear-gassed and hospitalized) spent a week pretending she&#8217;d been trapped in the riot by accident before Internet weirdos proved she was lying.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> (By then, she&#8217;d raked in a handsome take on GoFundMe.) </p><p>As I wrote <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/a-woman-has-died">a few weeks ago</a>:</p><blockquote><p>I keep talking about the possibility of some future civil war, but the truth is that civil war is a spectrum, and we are already on it. We&#8217;ve been in a low-grade civil war since at least 2020. The two rival tribes that occupy the United States are vast, rich, well-organized, and well-armed. Both of them are doing everything in their power to get you to pick a side&#8212;their side. When this war gets hot, they are going to need you to kill the people on the other side, and they are trying to prepare you for that. The tribes can&#8217;t let killings like Babbitt&#8217;s or Good&#8217;s be mere tragic exercises in stupidity; they must be made into martyrdoms or domestic terrorism. If the truth gets in the way of that, the truth will have to go. What looks like truth-telling becomes recruitment.</p></blockquote><p>All three incidents I just described (and more besides) happened <em>after</em> I wrote those words. I can write about the lies for hours. Indeed, in correspondence with local friends and acquaintances, trying to sort out true from false, I&#8217;ve done just that.</p><p>However, lies are not the only way tribes spread propaganda. On the contrary, lies are one of the weaker tools in their toolbox. Of course, the tribes have many ways to keep their followers from learning the truth. Even if they learn the truth, tribesmen have a strong bias against <em>accepting</em> the truth, because it would create cognitive dissonance.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> If it were not so, the tribes could not use lies at all! However, on the rare occasion that a lie <em>is</em> exposed, it can do major damage to a tribesman&#8217;s faith in the tribe. Both tribes greatly prefer to use the truth, where available. It&#8217;s much easier to convince people you&#8217;re right when you are, in fact, right.</p><p>However, truth is often complicated. Tribal narratives can rarely afford complexity.</p><p>So here&#8217;s a question for you: <em><strong>Is ICE mostly arresting criminals? </strong></em></p><p>(Prior to reading anything I have to say about it, what do you think is the correct answer to this question?)</p><p>While Americans are pretty divided on whether to deport all illegal immigrants, there is an overwhelming consensus that <em>criminal</em> illegal immigrants should be swiftly shown the door.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> Mr. Trump spent much of his campaign talking up the threat of specifically <em>criminal</em> aliens and promising to focus his attention, first and foremost, on the criminals. So this question matters a lot, politically: is ICE living up to that commitment to mostly arrest criminals?</p><p>One true answer to this question is <em><strong>No. </strong></em>The vast majority of illegal immigrants arrested in the last twelve months are <em>not</em> criminals. In fact, in Trump&#8217;s first year, only 36% of those arrested were criminals. This is perfectly true.</p><p>Another true answer is <em><strong>Yes</strong></em>. The vast majority of illegal immigrants arrested in the last twelve months <em>are</em> criminals. In fact, in Trump&#8217;s first year, fully 66% of those arrested were criminals. This is <em>also</em> perfectly true.</p><p>How can these contradictory claims both be true?</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>De Civitate</em> is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p><a href="https://www.factcheck.org/2026/01/as-ice-arrests-increased-a-higher-portion-had-no-u-s-criminal-record/">About a third</a> of the people arrested in Trump&#8217;s first year had pending criminal <em>charges, </em>but had not yet been <em>convicted</em>. If you count them as criminals, then the 66% figure is correct and the vast majority of arrestees are criminals. If you don&#8217;t, then the 36% figure is correct and the vast majority aren&#8217;t.</p><p>One can imagine a series of quick retorts between the tribes about which statistic is more appropriate:</p><blockquote><p>BLUE: People with pending charges aren&#8217;t criminals! They&#8217;re innocent until proven guilty!</p><p>RED: In federal criminal court, 91% of those charged <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/06/14/fewer-than-1-of-defendants-in-federal-criminal-cases-were-acquitted-in-2022/">are convicted</a>, and many of the remainder are definitely criminals but get off on technicalities.</p><p>BLUE: And a lot of those who plead guilty are railroaded by our corrupt plea-bargaining system.</p><p>RED: Even if you just look at cases that <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/06/14/fewer-than-1-of-defendants-in-federal-criminal-cases-were-acquitted-in-2022/">went to trial</a>&#8212;which are likely to include many of the <em>best</em> cases for defendants&#8212;the government still wins convictions 82% of the time.</p><p>BLUE: That&#8217;s federal. State conviction rates are lower.</p><p>RED: Probably, but probably not much lower, and good luck finding the data to back up an intuition. The truth is that the overwhelming majority of people with pending criminal charges are going to end up convicted, an even larger share of them are guilty, and you know it.</p><p>BLUE: I don&#8217;t know anything until due process is done, and neither do you.</p><p>RED: These are persons unlawfully present in the United States. The process due them, by law, is verification of their status followed by deportation. The end.</p><p>BLUE: So you don&#8217;t care that, by your own admission, your &#8220;66% criminal&#8221; stat is almost certainly an exaggeration?</p><p>RED: At most, a slight exaggeration&#8212;a lot less than the wild <em>under-</em>exaggeration you commit by treating <a href="https://www.startribune.com/chief-public-defender-outraged-by-immigration-detentions-inside-hennepin-county-courthouse/601577299">every kiddie diddler</a> arrested on clear evidence as a perfect innocent until the State spends God-knows-what convicting them. It&#8217;s <em>absolutely</em> true that a majority of those arrested are criminals!</p><p>BLUE: Hold on, what &#8220;clear evidence&#8221;? You hyperlinked a specific story there, the case of Daniel Alejandro Torrealba Mendez, and I happen to know there&#8217;s no public arrest record or evidentiary court filings in that case!</p><p>RED: &#8230;Yet.</p><p>BLUE: So when you said clear evidence, you were making it up?</p><p>RED: I&#8217;ll tell you what. I&#8217;ll bet you $1,000, right now, that, whenever the evidence in that case does come out, your own mother will agree he did it.</p><p>BLUE: I don&#8217;t gamble, especially not with the justice system.</p><p>RED: Sure. You&#8217;d rather gamble with public safety, which is why <a href="https://blockclubchicago.org/2023/08/16/meet-the-migrant-barbers-offering-fresh-cuts-in-the-loop/">Gregori Arias</a> is <a href="https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/09/22/ice-lodges-arrest-detainer-venezuelan-criminal-illegal-alien-who-brutally-murdered">dead</a>.</p><p>BLUE: This isn&#8217;t fair. You&#8217;ve had four hyperlinks and I&#8217;ve had none. The author&#8217;s stacking the deck.</p><p>JAMES: Please don&#8217;t drag me into this! I&#8217;m <em>trying</em> to find a good link for you on the plea-bargaining point, but I haven&#8217;t looked at plea-bargain abuse in years. Will my Official Authorial Endorsement make up for it?<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> I&#8217;ll also let you take an extra turn, Blue.</p><p>BLUE: Fine. What most Americans are really interested in when they ask about &#8220;criminal illegal aliens&#8221; is serious crimes&#8212;<em>violent</em> crimes. You know, the &#8220;<a href="https://www.dhs.gov/wow">Worst of the Worst</a>&#8221; (which ICE had to <a href="https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/17/ice-takes-credit-for-some-criminals-that-were-already-in-minnesota-prisons">plump up</a> with people Minnesota had already imprisoned), not graffiti and shoplifting. But only a small fraction of ICE arrests&#8212;7% over most of last year!&#8212;were of <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/12/04/us/ice-arrests-criminal-records-data.html?unlocked_article_code=1.KFA.BhYP.6mAzXoAtI0Lk&amp;smid=url-share">violent criminals</a>!<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> Moreover, that fraction is <em>falling</em> as ICE has to cast larger and larger nets to make its quotas! Your argument is already unjustified, but it could fall apart completely in six months!</p><p>RED: I&#8217;m not going to discuss future hypotheticals while you&#8217;re moving the goalposts here and now. We started out agreeing that <em>criminal</em> aliens were the category of interest, not some bespoke artisanal subset of criminal aliens that happens to interest you. The same report shows that the most common non-violent conviction was for DUI, which is a serious offense in my book! So&#8217;s &#8220;non-violent&#8221; <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/23/us/undocumented-worker-stolen-identity-dan-kluver.html?unlocked_article_code=1.KFA.GC_E.E2mmZZy4MC1G&amp;smid=url-share">identity theft</a>. So&#8217;s &#8220;non-violent&#8221; <a href="https://www.wearegreenbay.com/news/local-news/45-year-old-illegal-immigrant-arrested-in-wisconsin-on-10-counts-of-child-porn-ice-detainer-issued/">distribution of child pornography</a>. These are not good guys you&#8217;re defending!</p><p>BLUE: You <em>cannot</em> know that! You can point out this or that bad case but you <em>cannot</em> make systematic claims about <em>all</em> cases, especially in this degraded information environment, without independent jury review! In America, we don&#8217;t call people &#8220;criminals&#8221; until convicted by a jury of their peers!</p><p>RED: Our beloved author <a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2020/05/29/third-degree-murder-appropriate-for-chauvin/">waited four days</a> after George Floyd&#8217;s killing to start calling it a &#8220;murder.&#8221; He switched terminology on the basis of Hennepin County&#8217;s criminal charge&#8212;not a conviction, which <a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2021/04/20/breaking-down-the-chauvin-charges/">took another year</a>. Your Blue tribe criticized him for not calling it a murder <em>quickly enough</em>. English has the phrase &#8220;convicted criminal,&#8221; distinct from &#8220;criminal,&#8221; because we know there are criminals who haven&#8217;t been convicted.</p><p>BLUE: Maybe our beloved author called Floyd&#8217;s death a &#8220;murder&#8221; as soon as it was charged, but I don&#8217;t think he actually called Chauvin a &#8220;murderer&#8221; until conviction.</p><p>JAMES: Guys, <em>please</em>, stop bringing me into this. Blue could be right, but I honestly don&#8217;t remember. In fact, I think we&#8217;ve got about all we can from you two, so I&#8217;m going to call it there.</p><p>RED &amp; BLUE: Spineless chicken!</p></blockquote><p>What seems like a very simple yes-or-no question&#8212;<em><strong>Is ICE mostly deporting criminals?</strong></em>&#8212;turns out to be a fairly thorny one, with boundaries that can be reasonably contested to reach opposite conclusions. Both tribes <em>accurately</em> claim that the truth is on their side. </p><p>More importantly, both tribes <em>truly believe</em> the truth is on their side.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a> </p><p>Most dangerously, many tribesmen aren&#8217;t even aware of the argument from the other side, and believe that the other side is flagrantly lying. (Their fellow tribesmen aren&#8217;t inclined to correct that impression.)</p><p>As a result, we have two very different pictures of U.S. deportations: one version where most people getting swept up and kicked out are criminals who pose a threat to public safety, and another where most people getting swept up and kicked out are peaceable family men who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Neither is a lie. Both have considerable truth to them.</p><p>I&#8217;m supposed to have a conclusion here to help you apply these principles broadly in your life, but this is a &#8220;Quick Hit&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a> and I&#8217;m on day three of a head cold, so, I guess, just try to remember that, even when you <em>do</em> perform the hard work of sifting through the avalanche of lies to acquire a few true facts, your lens isn&#8217;t necessarily unequivocally the <em>only</em> true lens through which to view them.</p><p>This is hard. I&#8217;m going to go lie down.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a> </p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>De Civitate</em> is a reader-supported publication. 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Share and enjoy.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/from-a-certain-point-of-view?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/from-a-certain-point-of-view?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>In a strange twist, she also turned out to be a <a href="https://alphanews.org/bombshell-mom-of-baby-at-riot-previously-indicted-on-1st-degree-murder-in-2019-killing/">convict</a>. Initially indicted for first-degree murder after an armed robbery gone bad, she pled down to &#8220;aiding an offender after the fact.&#8221; Sentenced to four years, which would have expired in June 2025, she served 28 days. This is largely irrelevant to the tear-gas incident, since she would have been out anyway, but it is just an <em>odd</em> trivia fact about the case.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This sentence is practically an invitation to commenters to suggest all the ways in which <em>I, too</em> am victim to this, and I may as well lean into it: go ahead, come at me, I know I&#8217;m not exempt from cognitive bias.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>In this context, a &#8220;criminal illegal immigrant&#8221; is someone illegally present in the United States who has committed a crime <em>other than</em> the federal crime of illegally entering the United States. Strictly speaking, the answer to our question is <em><strong>Yes</strong>, </em>well over 90% of the people ICE arrests are criminals, because they committed the crime of illegal entry, but this is only trivially true, and is not what people ordinarily mean by &#8220;criminal illegal immigrants.&#8221; They ordinarily want to know whether the alien has committed some crime <em>in addition</em> to illegal entry. </p><p>These people may want to deport the alien either way&#8212;mass deportation has always been fairly popular in the polls, at least up until it became a daily reality&#8212;but it makes a moral difference for a lot of people whether the alien came here illegally and then made a blameless life for himself, or if he came here illegally and then committed crimes.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>OFFICIAL AUTHORIAL ENDORSEMENT: Blue is definitely correct that our plea-bargaining system railroads people. It&#8217;s hard to quantify how many actually innocent people end up convicted as a result, but that is very much a thing.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><blockquote><p>BLUE: And then I suddenly get three links in one reply? Guilty conscience much, James?</p><p>JAMES: Your earlier arguments were more about abstract principles! I can&#8217;t help that!</p></blockquote></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Of course, they always believe that:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nEqw!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F425c9d13-1bdc-4431-a1d9-018734560b56_1996x2928.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nEqw!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F425c9d13-1bdc-4431-a1d9-018734560b56_1996x2928.jpeg 424w, 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Only 6!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>UPDATE: </em>I did indeed go lie down after finishing this, and promptly fell asleep for two hours, the gentle breeze of the humidifier falling on my cheeks. I then held this piece back for a couple days until I could reread it with less liquid flowing from my nose and mouth. It holds up, although I wish I&#8217;d taken the time to sprinkle in some more source links. Oh, well, Quick Hit, out it goes.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Innumerable Dead]]></title><description><![CDATA[Surrounded by ghosts]]></description><link>https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/the-innumerable-dead</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/the-innumerable-dead</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[James J. Heaney]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2026 18:01:11 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!saKv!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4af832c2-5b25-4bf8-a357-d5e92ab97767_990x740.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!saKv!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4af832c2-5b25-4bf8-a357-d5e92ab97767_990x740.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!saKv!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4af832c2-5b25-4bf8-a357-d5e92ab97767_990x740.jpeg 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Bone Crypt of the Capuchin Friars, Rome, Italy</figcaption></figure></div><p>Every pro-lifer eventually hears an argument that goes something like this:</p><blockquote><p>You say that fetuses are human beings with rights, but, like, half of them die before they&#8217;re born! If abortion is murder, then your God is history&#8217;s greatest murderer!</p></blockquote><p>There are several good responses to this argument:</p><ul><li><p>&#8220;For virtually all of human history, something like half of people born died before puberty. Are you saying we should legalize abortion up to the thirty-ninth trimester&#8230; or do you think fourth-graders finally earned a right to life because we invented antibiotics?&#8221;</p></li><li><p>&#8220;Just wait until you hear about the death rate for adults&#8212;100%!&#8221; </p></li><li><p>&#8220;Why are you bringing up God? All I said was that it should be illegal to commit a premeditated killing of a baby. Keep your creepy religion out of politics, zealot!&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>These are all perfectly cromulent replies. Most of them expose the <em>non sequitur: </em>there is no logical connection between a population&#8217;s natural death rate and its right not to be killed intentionally. This forces your interlocutor to admit that the miscarriage rate is not the <em>real</em> reason he opposes fetal rights. The focus shifts back where it always needs to be: the human right to live<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> and the fetus&#8217;s humanity.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p><p>And yet.</p><h2>Remember, No Rosaries</h2><p>The atheist pro-lifer will have no trouble with all this death. People die. Babies die. Lots of &#8216;em. So what? We humans are beacons of light in a cold, senseless universe. We are here to offer one another a little warmth and kindness while the dark closes in around us. We shouldn&#8217;t kill our babies for the same reason we shouldn&#8217;t kill any other human. &#8220;An ye harm none, do what ye will,&#8221; say the Wiccans. &#8220;No violence may be employed against a nonaggressor,&#8221; agree the libertarians. &#8220;The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others,&#8221; add the utilitarians. To the atheist pro-lifer, the fact that death is always closing in on all of us is a scandal and a horror, not an excuse.</p><p>When pro-lifers are discussing abortion with others, I think we should all play atheists. Abortion is not wrong because God said so; abortion is wrong because it&#8217;s murder. We didn&#8217;t learn that life begins at conception from the Bible. We learned it from modern embryology, barely a hundred fifty years ago.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> There is even a credible argument that the Bible points <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exod+21%3A22-25&amp;version=NRSVUE">away from fetal rights</a>. If that argument is correct, then the Bible is wrong, simple as that.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> </p><p>Pro-lifers in secular countries should never allow themselves to be sidetracked into religious discussion, because the existence of God is a superfluous hypothesis in the pro-life argument. The <em>pro-choicers</em> are the ones trying to make it a religious argument by talking about &#8220;personhood&#8221; (or, as it used to be called, &#8220;ensoulment&#8221;). <em>We&#8217;re</em> sticking to facts taught in ninth-grade biology texts.</p><p><em>And yet.</em></p><h2>Free to Choose</h2><p>For the pro-lifer who believes in God, the pro-choice argument from fetal death rate does reveal a problem. It&#8217;s just not a problem with the pro-life position. It&#8217;s a problem with God.</p><p>Let us suppose that the purpose of a human life is to know, love, and serve God. He asks us to believe in Him, hope in Him, even worship Him. In short, God puts us on Earth so we can <em>choose</em> Him.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a></p><p>It is obvious that newborns, without exception, are <em>absolutely</em> incapable of free choice. The capacity develops over time, and it isn&#8217;t quick. Babies gradually figure out how to select their preference from a range of options (for example, by gobbling the carrot-flavored baby mush while hurling the peas-flavored baby mush across the room), which is a <em>kind</em> of choice, except not really. It&#8217;s the kind of choice animals can make: a simple reflexive response to positive or negative stimuli.</p><p><em>Deliberate</em> choice, which seems to be unique to humans, can&#8217;t develop until babies learn to <em>deliberate</em>, which is a function of language. Most babies start to develop symbolic language at approximately age 1. Before that milestone, it seems fair to say that they are <em>absolutely incapable </em>of choosing God (or anything else). Before that milestone, it even seems fair to say that infants have not yet come fully into their humanity. They certainly can&#8217;t <em>sin</em>. Calling a baby an evildoer is like accusing a walrus of plagiarism.</p><p>Therein lies the problem.</p><h2>Ranks Upon Choirs Upon Legions</h2><p>For most of human history, infant mortality was very high. In the Roman Empire&#8212;one of the most advanced civilizations of the pre-modern world&#8212;<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12178163/">more than</a> one in three children died in the first year of their lives. Those children never got to know, love, or serve God. Sure, after Rome converted to Christianity, many of these infants were baptized. According to Christian beliefs, baptism creates a new and stronger relationship between the infant and his Creator. However, this relationship, if it exists, is neither consciously experienced nor chosen by the infant. If the purpose of human life is to choose God, or to freely enter some sort of relationship with Him, before God calls you home, then God seems to have pulled the ripcord too early on these kids.</p><p>This isn&#8217;t just a handful of outliers, either. Ancient infant mortality overall is impossible to compute, since we don&#8217;t have census records from the Pharaoh,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a> but we are certain it was <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0305440395801707">extraordinarily high</a><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a> compared to today. In many societies, something approaching half of all children were dead less than twelve months after their births.</p><p>That is only the beginning of our troubles. </p><p>Even without the violence of abortion, approximately 10-20% of known pregnancies end all by themselves, in death by miscarriage. That&#8217;s an underestimate of the death toll, because many pregnancies are never known. It takes time after implanting in the uterine wall for a baby to make himself known to a pregnancy test. One <a href="https://f1000research.com/articles/5-2765">careful study</a> of hCG and clinical pregnancies credibly estimated that, even excluding abortions, about one-third of children die between implantation and birth. This estimate implies that only about half of these miscarriages are known. Half the time, a child dies without mom and dad even realizing he was ever there.</p><p>But wait! There&#8217;s more! </p><p>Human life doesn&#8217;t start at implantation in the uterine wall. It starts at conception, when sperm and egg kamikaze into one another to create an entirely new organism out of their ruins. The days after conception but before implantation are extremely dangerous for the new child. They are also almost totally invisible to medical science, since we currently lack the ability to detect these very early pregnancies. </p><p>Estimates of the pre-implantation death rate have therefore been all over the place. One oft-cited note in <em>The Lancet</em> in 1971 did some back-of-the-envelope math and concluded that about half of all humans conceived die in the tube before implantation.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a> That figure is probably a little high. That careful study I <a href="https://f1000research.com/articles/5-2765">already mentioned</a>? They re-examined <em>The Lancet</em> note and concluded that, in fact, pre-implantation deaths are probably closer to 10%-40%. So that&#8217;s alright, then! Instead of <em>half</em> of all humans dying before the reach the uterine lining, the true number is probably closer to a quarter of our species. Bully!</p><p>If we add this all together, we find an unsettling picture of human existence. </p><p>In the pre-modern world, about two-thirds of all human beings concieved died before they could say &#8220;love you dada.&#8221; In the modern world, we&#8217;ve accomplished the single greatest medical miracle in the history of the planet: we&#8217;ve cut that number down from two-thirds to about&#8230; half.</p><p>This is a <em>staggering</em> amount of infant death. Those of us who survived, who learned to talk and write and build and love and start the cycle over again, think of ourselves as the human norm. This is perfectly natural. After all, virtually everyone we&#8217;ve ever met <em>also</em> survived and learned to talk and write and build and love! </p><p>Statistically, though&#8230; we are <em>not</em> the norm. Most humans never made it past their first birthdays. If you die at Age 10, it&#8217;s considered a horrific tragedy, a life full of promise cut short before it could flower into fullness, and this is true&#8230; but it is <em>also</em> true that, if you&#8217;ve made it to Age 10, you&#8217;ve already experienced vastly more, known vastly more, <em>loved</em> vastly more, than the vast majority of human beings who ever existed. The moral choices of ten-year-olds may seem petty from your perspective,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a> but they are orders of magnitude more sophisticated than the moral choices of the median human being, who died as a baby (or maybe a late-term fetus).</p><p>Thanks to modern demographics and embryology, we finally know what previous generations could not: <em>we are surrounded by ghosts</em>. They aren&#8217;t even the ghosts of our ancestors. We have a cultural framework for the ancestors. We can cope with <em>them</em>. We are instead surrounded by the ghosts of our siblings and our cousins and our nieces and our nephews. Of our own children, both known and unknown. And they outnumber us.</p><p>Again, none of this is a problem for our secular friend. For him, this simply confirms that Darwin is cruel. One of humanity&#8217;s gifts is to push back against nature&#8217;s cruelty, but the humanist recognizes that defeating death is a slow, nearly impossible task, with vast casualties expected along the way. Certainly nothing about the fetal death rate justifies denying their humanity.</p><p>But, since these children <em>are</em> human, the theist must ask&#8230; <em>where is their God?</em></p><p>If it is true that God created us to know Him, to love Him, and to serve him in this world&#8212;if it is true that He gave us this time on Earth to choose Him&#8212;if it is true, as many Christians claim, that baptism by water is the ordinary means of salvation&#8230; how can we reconcile that with the fact that God created a world where <em>most people</em> never get the chance in this life to know or love or serve or choose <em>at all</em>? </p><p>How can we call baptism by water a salvific necessity when so few will ever be <em>capable</em> of receiving it? We could convert the entire world to Christianity and we <em>still</em> wouldn&#8217;t be able to baptize half the human race! The <em>massa innocens </em>dies <em>in utero</em>, beyond the reach of the baptismal font! Did Christ not come to give <em>everyone</em> a path to salvation?</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>De Civitate</em> is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2>Stories</h2><p>Peter Van Inwagen is one of the most interesting philosophers around. For example, he is a Christian materialist, a combination I&#8217;ve never heard before or since. Van Inwagen <a href="https://dl.booksee.org/foreignfiction/581000/13c462a14d83d366e80ec7d5ccc05005.pdf/_as/%255BVan_Inwagen_Peter%255D_The_Problem_of_Evil%28BookSee.org%29.pdf">once made</a> an argument about evil that stuck with me: </p><p>You can&#8217;t actually philosophically show why evil exists&#8212;or, at least, doing so seems very, very hard. Even the Bible tells us very little. Job asks God why life is so much like hanging upside down with your head in a bucket of hyena offal, and God says (I&#8217;m paraphrasing), &#8220;You can&#8217;t understand until you can see outside the bucket.&#8221; All we can do, Van Inwagen argues, is tell stories about why God <em>might</em> allow evil to exist. These stories must be consistent with the existence of God and the sufferings of the world. They <em>could</em> be true &#8220;for all anyone knows,&#8221; but we have insufficient data to prove any specific answer correct in any specific case.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a> All theodicy boils down, van Inwagen suggests, to a creative writing exercise.</p><p>In that spirit&#8230;</p><h2>Getting a Sense of Perspective</h2><p>As we&#8217;ve seen, humans who get to live &#8220;ordinary&#8221; human lives on Earth&#8212;who are born, grow up, and die&#8212;are the exception, not the rule. This casts the urgency of our vocations into sharp relief. We aren&#8217;t walking around working a day job and watching Netflix because that&#8217;s just how it happens. It usually doesn&#8217;t! We are here, on Earth, right now, because God Himself willed us, specifically, to be here, right now. We know our mission here in the Church Militant is special and essential because one-half to two-thirds of our brothers-in-arms weren&#8217;t even deployed. We are a skeleton crew who has been asked to run the world and keep humanity going at no better than half-strength.</p><p>So how dare we flag in our determination to accomplish that mission? Why do we worry so much about fame, wealth, or the fate of nations? Politics are of literally no consequence to most of the human race. Moreover, how <em>dare</em> we fail to be awed by the fractal frost on the window in the morning, or bowled over by the joy of a night in popping popcorn and watching a mid-tier action story like <em>Revenge of the Sith </em>with the fam? Most human beings never get the chance at popcorn, or frost, or stories.</p><h2>Ordinary Isn&#8217;t Typical</h2><p>The other half may not get popcorn, but I think we can be confident that whatever the <em>massa innocens</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a> does get is pretty good. I do not think God would create a whole race of immortal beings, call them &#8220;very good,&#8221; and then condemn the majority of that race, though perfectly innocent of individual sin, to a bad destiny that they <em>cannot possibly avoid</em>. I suppose I can <em>imagine</em> such a God, but it is not the God we find in the Judeo-Christian Scriptures. That guy can be harsh, but he is constantly throwing out lifelines.</p><p>Indeed, if it is the case that Christ came to offer salvation to <em>all</em>, then it simply cannot also be the case that visible membership in the Christian Church through baptism is the <em>typical</em> means of salvation. Given high fetal mortality, these claims are incompatible.</p><p>I agree with the common statement that baptism is the <em>ordinary</em> means of salvation, but &#8220;ordinary,&#8221; in this case, must be taken in the same sense as when we say that Congressional Budget Act of 1974 defines the <em>ordinary</em> means for federal appropriations: the CBA is the standard procedure, against which all exceptions are defined&#8230; but it hasn&#8217;t actually been <em>followed</em> in nearly thirty years.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a> You have to know the CBA to understand the real process, but the real process is dominated by the exceptions and quite often bears little actual resemblance to the CBA. </p><p>Likewise, accepting (or rejecting) Christ&#8217;s invitation to baptism by water is the ordinary means of determining one&#8217;s eternal destiny. However, if Christ is not a liar,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a> reality must be dominated by the exceptions. Exactly what those exceptions are and how they work is a matter of <a href="https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20070419_un-baptised-infants_en.html">extensive speculation</a>&#8230; but, given conflicting arguments and divine silence on this question, what this speculation amounts to is just more stories.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-14" href="#footnote-14" target="_self">14</a></p><p>Personally, I suspect that infants who die are gifted with the grace to overcome original sin and make a free choice, like we are. This grace comes through the &#8220;living water&#8221; that springs from the side of Christ at His death, just as it does for us. However, like the angels in the moment of their creation, I suspect the choice of the infant is instantaneous, is made with complete understanding of the options, and has eternal consequences. (Thus, it is wise to pray for them in that eternal moment.)</p><p>Of course, if half of all humans are being exiled from their home country by being hurled off a mile-high cliff, it is <em>reassuring</em> to learn that there is a safety net and a boat to a new land at the bottom of the cliff, but it does not answer the more urgent question: <em>why are they being hurled off a cliff in the first place?</em></p><h2>The Contemplative Pyramid, Inverted</h2><p>We, the living, are necessary. Humans are an embodied, animal species. God Himself cannot change that without destroying what makes us human. Therefore, if none of us were in the world, there would be no more adults, no more <em>massa innocens</em>, no more humans at all.</p><p>Yet, here in the living world, we find that some of the best and happiest of us are among those who deliberately <em>withdraw</em> from the world, into celibacy or even into the contemplative life. People like Mother Teresa, St Francis of Assisi, and St. Benedict, did great good in the world (St. Benedict <a href="https://www.oram.us/the-monk-who-defied-a-dying-world-how-st-benedict-saved-the-west/">arguably</a> saved Europe). However, they did that as an <em>afterthought</em>, because their hearts were fixed firmly on finding and resting in God.</p><p>In the Catholic tradition, at least, there is no doubt that (all else being equal) the contemplative life is simply <em>superior</em> to the active life. The most important person on Earth today&#8212;the one who has accomplished more good for more people than any other single human&#8212;is probably some anonymous Carmelite nun, living in complete silence, never to be known in the world, but moving mountains with her prayers. </p><p>Actives are necessary, of course, or there wouldn&#8217;t be babies, or civilization, or any food for the contemplatives to eat. However, the contemplative has found a pearl of greater price, and so pays out her life drawing closer to Him. The contemplatives are an example to us all. Their sufferings are great, because they sacrifice so much, but the joy they sometimes obtain is our clearest preview of Heaven.</p><p>The relationship between &#8220;contemplatives&#8221; and &#8220;actives&#8221; is sometimes visualized as a pyramid: a tiny pinnacle of pure contemplatives supported by a huge base of pure actives.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-15" href="#footnote-15" target="_self">15</a> For each individual Catholic living in a cloister devoted entirely to prayer, there&#8217;s something like <em>ten thousand</em> Catholics <em>outside</em> the cloister. I don&#8217;t know what the figures are in other Christian denominations, to say nothing of other religions, but I imagine the ratio is pretty steep everywhere. </p><p>However, what if we&#8217;ve got it backwards?</p><p>If God created the human race and made it very good, and if the contemplative life spent seeking God is the best life, then would it not make sense for God to call the majority of humanity to that high destiny? Furthermore, if one is called to contemplate the Lord, would it not be easier to do so if one were already with him in Heaven <em>right away</em>? An efficient way of to accomplish this would be killing the majority of humans before they learn to walk.</p><p>Of course, God would need some people to survive infancy and live out the active life, because otherwise the human race would cease to exist. He would also probably need to send a <em>few</em> contemplatives to Earth to teach us actives what life is all about. This would be very hard for those contemplatives. Life on Earth is hard and sad, and God is veiled from this world, so the contemplative who wants to see Him must work very hard at it. Perhaps God only inflicts this fate on those necessary to His plan, and keeps everyone else&#8212;the majority of humanity&#8212;close to His bosom, awaiting the Last Day and the renewal of all things.</p><p>Perhaps half the human race <em>isn&#8217;t</em> being hurled off a cliff after all. Perhaps half the human race is jumping for a chance to return to their true home country. Perhaps they are being called there for important work: supporting we few, the living, through prayer. </p><p>Perhaps it is not we actives carrying a handful of contemplatives on our back.</p><p>Perhaps a great invisible host of contemplatives is carrying <em>us</em>.</p><p>All just a story, of course&#8212;but a story consistent with what we know, true &#8220;for all anyone knows.&#8221;</p><h2>The Road More Traveled</h2><p>Of course, none of this would make abortion okay. Quite the contrary: if the relatively small number of humans sent into this suffering world were only sent here because each of them is somehow <em>vital</em> to the fate of humanity, then tearing some of those small humans limb from limb (or poisoning them, or suffocating them, or starving them) turns out to be not just barbaric, but self-destructive. We&#8217;re killing our own reinforcements!</p><p>Abortion is, by a wide margin, the leading cause of death in the United States, beating out heart disease and cancer by a healthy margin. If you combined <em><a href="https://rockinst.org/gun-violence/mass-shooting-factsheet/">every single</a></em><a href="https://rockinst.org/gun-violence/mass-shooting-factsheet/"> mass shooting</a> in the United States in the past sixty years, and added up <em>all</em> the casualties (adults and children combined), the total dead would be less than <em>one day</em> of U.S. abortion deaths. I know people who nominally oppose abortion (&#8220;I&#8217;m personally opposed, but it&#8217;s not the government&#8217;s place to decide for someone else&#8221;) who look at me like I&#8217;m an insane evildoer when I suggest that <a href="https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/731812?journalCode=jle">perhaps it&#8217;s a bad idea</a> for the government to mandate car seats so much longer than it did thirty or forty years ago. (Car seat laws, estimating <a href="https://www.iihs.org/research-areas/child-safety">generously</a>, save ~400 children per year. Abortion kills approximately two thousand times more children.) It is shocking to contemplate the magnitude of the crime we have inflicted upon ourselves. Most don&#8217;t. From observation, it seems to me that many <em>can&#8217;t</em>.</p><p>However, looked at from a wider perspective, abortion does not change the human reality all that much. In the U.S., we currently abort about one-fifth of all known pregnancies.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-16" href="#footnote-16" target="_self">16</a> This raises the mortality rate for human beings under the age of one from around half to around two-thirds&#8212;which is where it has been for most of human history anyway. (Of course, in the long run, the death rate remains 100% for us all.)</p><p>I take some comfort in the thought that, when a child is ripped violently from his mother&#8217;s womb, he does not journey to the afterlife alone. He finds himself on a road surrounded by friends, clapping and leaping and shouting hallelujahs, processing ahead in a host larger than the living human race.</p><blockquote><p><em>Let it be far from the hearts of the faithful that all the little children, of whom so great a multitude die every day, should perish without the merciful God, who wishes no one to perish, having provided them also with some means of salvation.</em> </p><p><em>&#8212;Pope Innocent III, late 1201</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-17" href="#footnote-17" target="_self">17</a></p><div><hr></div></blockquote><p><em><strong>NEXT VOYAGE:</strong> Today&#8217;s piece was planned for January 22, as my annual commemoration of Roe v. Wade, but it was delayed because I underestimated the complexity of my thesis. I still plan to publish a Worthy Reads</em> <em>post ASAP, but, obviously, with an article that took a week too long to write, I&#8217;m a bit backed up at the moment.</em></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>De Civitate</em> is a reader-supported publication. 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Share and enjoy!</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/the-innumerable-dead?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/the-innumerable-dead?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8230;including the relationship of that right to other rights. If you are putting my life in danger&#8212;even unintentionally&#8212;does my right to life override yours? Or, if your continued life would make my life less pleasant, can I kill you to prevent that? </p><p>(If so, how <em>much</em> less pleasant? My-unchosen-obligations-to-you-would-ruin-my-career unpleasant, or you-smack-your-lips-when-you-eat unpleasant?)</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Pro tip: your pro-choice interlocutor will ordinarily do everything in his power to draw you away from these central issues. The pro-lifer&#8217;s most important discussion skill is the ability to gently but swiftly dismiss the red herrings, bringing the conversation back to the human right to live and the fetus&#8217;s humanity. It doesn&#8217;t matter if you would &#8220;win&#8221; on the red herring, because it&#8217;s irrelevant. Your opponent is winning as long as you&#8217;re wasting energy on irrelevant points.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>It is not a coincidence that previously-lax abortion laws suddenly became much stricter about a hundred fifty years ago.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>To be clear, I don&#8217;t think the argument is correct. But if it were ever somehow proved correct, I would not stop being pro-life. I would stop being Christian.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Of course, there are many sectarian disputes about the details. Some hold that humans play no actual role in this choosing. They say that some of us are, in effect, <em>compelled</em> to choose God. </p><p>Others deny the reality of choice at all, insisting that all of us (perhaps even God) are simply acting out the pre-written script that was determined, for all time, by the initial conditions of the cosmos, &#224; la the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM0K4VODk8Q">One Small Piece Of Fairy Cake theory</a> of existence. Nevertheless, most theists either agree with what I wrote, or with something quite close to it.</p><p>There are others who do not, of course. Theism concludes that there is at least one God, but that does not, by itself, tell you anything about His nature. Deists believe in God, but don&#8217;t believe He&#8217;s paying all that much attention to us, and tend to take a similar attitude toward Him. Satanists, the real ones, believe in God but reject worshipping Him. Even for people with these beliefs, though, there is a similar set of problems.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Also, infant mortality varied a lot between different times and places, of course!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Article is paywalled, but shows prehistoric mortality among various Neanderthal sites. The average neonatal mortality rate (which includes at least some late-term fetuses) was 40%, although, in fairness, it was as low as 15% at some sites. (Table 4, page 129)</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This was Roberts &amp; Lowe&#8217;s <em>Where Have All The Conceptions Gone?</em> Actually, what they estimated was that 80% of pregnancies end in fetal loss, without paying much attention to the details of <em>when</em> they are lost. If we accept their estimate that 80% of unborn babies overall die, and Jarvis&#8217;s estimate in <em>Early Embryo Mortality in Natural Human Reproduction</em> that ~30% of them die between implantation and birth, then Roberts &amp; Lowes are implying that ~50% of them die before implantation. If I&#8217;ve misinterpreted Roberts &amp; Lowes, I apologize.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I presume that you, dear reader, are older than ten. This seems like a pretty safe presumption, but if there are any precocious tweens out there who&#8217;ve chosen to read <em>De Civ</em>: hello and congratulations! In addition to surviving the great filter of infancy, you are also developing great taste!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>He later extended this idea to the <a href="https://andrewmbailey.com/pvi/Hiddenness.pdf">problem of divine hiddenness</a>, which is actually where I first encountered it. In case links break, the first paper is called &#8220;The Problem of Evil, the Problem of Air, and the Problem of Silence,&#8221; and the second one&#8212;the one I actually read&#8212;is called &#8220;What is the Problem of the Hiddenness of God?&#8221;</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>While editing, I noticed that I use this Latin phrase several times. As far as I know, I&#8217;m the first to use it, so you can&#8217;t find out what it means by Googling it, which isn&#8217;t fair to most of you who don&#8217;t speak Latin! </p><p><em>Massa innocens</em> means &#8220;mass of innocents.&#8221; Compare <em>massa damnata</em>, a well-worn phrase that refers to the hypothesis that the vast majority of humanity is condemned to Hell for their sins. </p><p>Note, however, that I do not present the <em>massa innocens</em> as a hypothesis. The <em>massa innocens </em>is a demonstrable fact. There are a lot of them, and they are provably innocent of any personal fault. Their eternal destiny is a matter of hypothesis, but their existence is not.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The CBA has only been fully and correctly followed, with all twelve appropriations bills passed on schedule, <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/10/01/congress-has-long-struggled-to-pass-spending-bills-on-time/">four times</a>: 1977, 1989, 1995, and 1997. It hasn&#8217;t even been <em>attempted </em>in recent memory.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-13" href="#footnote-anchor-13" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">13</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Mk 10:14, Mk 10:45, Lk 19:10, Jn 12:47. Not to mention the Apostles, given 1 Tim 2:4 and 2 Pet 3:9.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-14" href="#footnote-anchor-14" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">14</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>If we assume that the forms of baptism known to us are the only means of erasing the injury of original sin, then various medieval hypotheses about the destiny of the infants do logically follow from that assumption. The most important of these was the so-called &#8220;limbo of infants,&#8221; wherein infants who die without baptism theoretically enjoy full and complete natural happiness for all eternity but are deprived of the greater ecstasy of the Beatific Vision of God (but do not suffer from this privation). </p><p>This hypothesis cannot be ruled out. It&#8217;s not even a bad outcome! The <em>massa innocens</em>, on this theory, spends all eternity happier than anyone on Earth has ever been or ever could be, which sounds a lot like Heaven. Perhaps this would count as salvation, in which case Jesus&#8217;s promise to offer salvation to all would still be fulfilled. However, the limbo hypothesis is built entirely on the assumption that we every form of baptism has been revealed to us, and that assumption is unwarranted. Moreover, given Jesus&#8217;s words, actions, and penchant for making surprising exceptions to what the Apostles understood as absolute rules, it seems improbable.</p><p>It is worth recalling, too, that the medievals had <em>no concept</em> of how many people die <em>in utero</em>. For the medievals, this was an edge case. Following Aristotelian biology, it was believed that early pregnancies were just an undifferentiated clump of vegetative flesh gradually congealing into a human organism with a human soul, so miscarriages before somewhere around <a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/19/19-1392/185196/20210729093557582_210169a%20Amicus%20Brief%20for%20efiling%207%2029%2021.pdf">the sixth to twelfth week of pregnancy</a> weren&#8217;t even human yet. (Thanks to modern science, we now know the human organism begins at some point during conception.) After the sixth week LMP, miscarriage rates <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18310375/">fall sharply</a>, which means medievals regarded most miscarriages as non-human. Moreover, given the state of medieval medicine, many pregnancies that ended in miscarriage were never detected as pregnancies. As a result, the medievals would have believed the limbo of the infants applied to only a fairly small fraction of the human race&#8212;perhaps 5% or 10%, at most.</p><p>Not 50%.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-15" href="#footnote-anchor-15" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">15</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Some people fall in between, of course, in the pyramid&#8217;s middle layers. Avowed celibates (both clergy and lay) are a good example.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-16" href="#footnote-anchor-16" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">16</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This varies a lot worldwide, in the U.K., the abortion rate is quickly rising. Nearly <a href="https://news.sky.com/story/abortion-rate-hits-record-high-figures-show-13394600">a third</a> of Britain&#8217;s children are now intentionally killed <em>in utero</em>. Meanwhile, in Ireland, before the 2018 vote that legalized abortion nationwide, <a href="https://ionainstitute.ie/what-is-the-irish-abortion-rate/">fewer than one-tenth</a> of pregnancies ended in abortion, even after accounting for mothers who traveled to the U.K. to get abortions, or who procured abortifacient drugs on their own.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-17" href="#footnote-anchor-17" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">17</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is from Pope Innocent&#8217;s letter <em>Maiores Ecclesiae causas</em>, addressed to the Archbishop of Arles, some time in late 1201.</p><p>Innocent is arguing&#8212;correctly&#8212;for the validity of baptizing infants, and the importance of doing so whenever possible. However, the Pope&#8217;s argument applies just as well to the fetuses for whom baptism is never even possible.. </p><p><em>Links</em>: Latin (<a href="https://www.intratext.com/IXT/LAT0833/_P10D.HTM">start with</a> &#8220;Absit enim, ut universi parvuli pereant&#8230;&#8221;) | <a href="https://chatgpt.com/share/6980680c-5834-8011-9776-e97e51163730">English translation</a> by GPT.</p><p>This passage is quoted in part at Denzinger 780, and is cited by the Vatican in 2007&#8217;s <em><a href="https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20070419_un-baptised-infants_en.html#_ftn116">The Hope of Salvation for Infants who Die Without Being Raptured</a>.</em></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[A Woman Has Died]]></title><description><![CDATA[How to think about it]]></description><link>https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/a-woman-has-died</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/a-woman-has-died</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[James J. Heaney]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2026 22:30:56 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5pGR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3528cc0f-4f75-441b-a051-a816c06b3c20_680x458.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She was, by all accounts, a lovely woman.</p><p>She was my age, or just about. I keep thinking about that.</p><p>What a woman my age was doing there in the middle of a Wednesday morning,  in the January colds, I still don&#8217;t understand. I guess, when you feel that the nation is doing something Really Bad, you take PTO, put on a warm coat, and make your voice heard. I guess that&#8217;s America. I guess good for her.</p><p>I&#8217;ve seen the ugly events that followed from so many camera angles now I get dizzy. By now, we all have.</p><p>The moral interpretation of what happened is an exercise in <a href="https://slatestarcodex.com/2018/10/30/sort-by-controversial/">Shiri&#8217;s Scissor</a>:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vfkz!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdeeccb9-381f-415d-b061-f163483e24ac_588x645.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vfkz!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdeeccb9-381f-415d-b061-f163483e24ac_588x645.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vfkz!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdeeccb9-381f-415d-b061-f163483e24ac_588x645.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vfkz!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdeeccb9-381f-415d-b061-f163483e24ac_588x645.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vfkz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdeeccb9-381f-415d-b061-f163483e24ac_588x645.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vfkz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdeeccb9-381f-415d-b061-f163483e24ac_588x645.png" width="588" height="645" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/cdeeccb9-381f-415d-b061-f163483e24ac_588x645.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:645,&quot;width&quot;:588,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:159145,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/183943684?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdeeccb9-381f-415d-b061-f163483e24ac_588x645.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vfkz!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdeeccb9-381f-415d-b061-f163483e24ac_588x645.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vfkz!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdeeccb9-381f-415d-b061-f163483e24ac_588x645.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vfkz!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdeeccb9-381f-415d-b061-f163483e24ac_588x645.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vfkz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdeeccb9-381f-415d-b061-f163483e24ac_588x645.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">This is my stand. I will not retreat from it. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Noah_S._Sweat&amp;oldid=1331845321#The_%22whiskey_speech%22">I will not compromise.</a> (<a href="https://x.com/eigenrobot/status/2009071102639927420">s</a>)</figcaption></figure></div><p>However, these facts, at least, seem to be generally agreed upon:</p><p>Agents of the federal government were attempting to execute the law of the land as they understood it.</p><p>This young woman had come to believe, quite strongly, that the government&#8217;s actions were not only unjust, but illegitimate. She was immersed in a fever-pitch world of friends, social media, and news sources that reinforced her views. </p><p>So she came out to protest the government&#8217;s actions. Given her beliefs, we must agree, this was a reasonable response!</p><p>At some point, however, she made a further decision. Instead of merely protesting, she began to actively <em>interfere</em> with the government, hoping to prevent the actions she opposed. This is, of course, illegal. However, as a country, we only rarely <em>actually </em>prosecute interference with law enforcement. At worst, it&#8217;ll get you arrested for a few hours or a night. (Then you can come out the next day with <em>huge</em> social standing in your friend group.) Besides, she was a white woman. In the absence of some aggravating act of violence, this poor young woman probably expected lenience. I&#8217;m not sure that expectation was unreasonable. Many others had recently gotten away with worse, and she knew that.</p><p>She didn&#8217;t count on the larger environment. She didn&#8217;t realize that the law enforcement officials she was confronting were overtaxed and undertrained. She didn&#8217;t understand how ill-prepared they were to deal with the resistance from her and her allies. She had a lot of allies. They had already harassed the agents. They were on edge, twitchy, aggravated, and probably more than a little scared. The rhetoric of the past few days had been hideously ugly, often violent. The LEOs knew there were people present who wanted them dead, and knew they might not have much time to react if a lethal threat presented itself.</p><p>In the end, she started committing her little crime, but federal law enforcement officers told her to stop, to freeze right where she was. Alas, she did not! Was she panicked? Was she angry? Did she even understand the commands, in the adrenaline and terror of the moment of confrontation? We can never ask her. One of those officers, in particular, probably shouldn&#8217;t have been on the scene at all that day. It wasn&#8217;t that he was evil or criminal; he just had some things in his past that meant he might not make very good split-second decisions in this sort of context.</p><p>He pulled his weapon.</p><p>He fired.</p><p>She died.</p><p>Was she armed? It depends on whom you ask, and how you define &#8220;armed.&#8221; Law enforcement had some reasonable basis for thinking she posed a deadly threat to them, but it&#8217;s arguable whether that basis was sufficient to justify firing on her. In a sense, that doesn&#8217;t matter: it is ambiguous enough that her supporters have taken to saying that the feds &#8220;murdered&#8221; an &#8220;unarmed woman.&#8221; They warned (and are still warning) the country that &#8220;you could be next&#8221; if you just happen to find yourself &#8220;in the wrong place at the wrong time.&#8221;</p><p>Of course, this omits that &#8220;the wrong place at the wrong time&#8221; here means committing a (non-violent) crime in the middle of a tense protest against armed agents carrying out the law, which is not actually a place or time in which I regularly find myself. The killing and the subsequent rhetoric has, nevertheless, radicalized many people on her side. When skeptics point out that she was in the middle of a crime, refusing lawful orders from federal agents, the response comes quickly: &#8220;Illegal protest doesn&#8217;t warrant the death penalty.&#8221;</p><p>Donald Trump, naturally, almost immediately logged on to post some nonsense that was seemingly <em>calculated</em> to pour gasoline on an already raging fire. Abraham Lincoln did everything he possibly could to avert the Civil War, short of surrender. Donald Trump, on the other hand, seems to do everything he can to hasten it. I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s his plan; I think that&#8217;s just his id. I don&#8217;t think that makes it better.</p><p>Anyway, none of these post-mortem reactions change the fact that she is dead. She was a nice woman, caught up in a revolutionary movement. In my view, the revolutionaries&#8217; ideas were mostly (though not <em>entirely</em>) false, but that&#8217;s beside the point. She didn&#8217;t want to hurt anyone; she just wanted to be heard, and to protect her country from the oppression of the federal government. However we ultimately assign the blame, I think we can all agree that her death was needless, and sad, and a terrible loss for her friends, her family, and the country. Through the mercy of God, may Ashli Babbitt rest in peace, amen.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X4tl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F99b3f323-7718-4ab0-a238-8710751863db_784x1101.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X4tl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F99b3f323-7718-4ab0-a238-8710751863db_784x1101.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X4tl!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F99b3f323-7718-4ab0-a238-8710751863db_784x1101.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X4tl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F99b3f323-7718-4ab0-a238-8710751863db_784x1101.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X4tl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F99b3f323-7718-4ab0-a238-8710751863db_784x1101.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X4tl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F99b3f323-7718-4ab0-a238-8710751863db_784x1101.jpeg" width="356" height="499.9438775510204" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/99b3f323-7718-4ab0-a238-8710751863db_784x1101.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1101,&quot;width&quot;:784,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:356,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Who Was Ashli Babbitt? Woman Killed in Capitol Embraced Trump, QAnon - The  New York Times&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Who Was Ashli Babbitt? Woman Killed in Capitol Embraced Trump, QAnon - The  New York Times" title="Who Was Ashli Babbitt? Woman Killed in Capitol Embraced Trump, QAnon - The  New York Times" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X4tl!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F99b3f323-7718-4ab0-a238-8710751863db_784x1101.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X4tl!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F99b3f323-7718-4ab0-a238-8710751863db_784x1101.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X4tl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F99b3f323-7718-4ab0-a238-8710751863db_784x1101.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X4tl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F99b3f323-7718-4ab0-a238-8710751863db_784x1101.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">The young woman in question.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Ms. Babbitt was on my mind this week because Tuesday was the fifth anniversary of <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/the-presidents-insurrection">the Capitol insurrection</a> on January 6, 2021. She was, of course, the sole fatality of that riot, and the anniversary of her killing inspired a fresh round of discussion about her.</p><p>It was startling, then, when, the very next day, something strikingly similar happened to <em>another</em> young woman, one Renee Good, right here in the Twin Cities.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uaJg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb7c3e941-2111-41a6-b4ae-9b068367fddd_695x436.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uaJg!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb7c3e941-2111-41a6-b4ae-9b068367fddd_695x436.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uaJg!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb7c3e941-2111-41a6-b4ae-9b068367fddd_695x436.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uaJg!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb7c3e941-2111-41a6-b4ae-9b068367fddd_695x436.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uaJg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb7c3e941-2111-41a6-b4ae-9b068367fddd_695x436.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uaJg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb7c3e941-2111-41a6-b4ae-9b068367fddd_695x436.jpeg" width="523" height="328.0978417266187" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/b7c3e941-2111-41a6-b4ae-9b068367fddd_695x436.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:436,&quot;width&quot;:695,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:523,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;GoFundMe for Ren&#233;e Good nears $1.5 million as protests erupt over her ...&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="GoFundMe for Ren&#233;e Good nears $1.5 million as protests erupt over her ..." title="GoFundMe for Ren&#233;e Good nears $1.5 million as protests erupt over her ..." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uaJg!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb7c3e941-2111-41a6-b4ae-9b068367fddd_695x436.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uaJg!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb7c3e941-2111-41a6-b4ae-9b068367fddd_695x436.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uaJg!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb7c3e941-2111-41a6-b4ae-9b068367fddd_695x436.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uaJg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb7c3e941-2111-41a6-b4ae-9b068367fddd_695x436.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div 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Babbitt had a small knife, Good a large car. The exact positions and timings are different, as the details always are. Still, the overarching similarities are striking. You could <em>almost</em> read this whole post up until the part where I said Ms. Babbitt&#8217;s name and think I was talking about Ms. Good!</p><p>It is therefore striking how perfectly the national narratives seem to have reversed for this killing. <em>For the most part</em>, the people who declared Ashli Babbitt a patriot martyr are quite convinced that the ICE agent who unloaded half a clip into Renee Good&#8217;s skull is a heroic exemplar of law and order. <em>For the most part</em>, the people who think Good&#8217;s &#8220;murder&#8221; proves that our government is &#8220;fascist&#8221; spent 2021 (at least as I remember it) sniggering into their sleeves about what an idiot Babbitt had been to have placed herself at the front of a riot in the first place. In both cases, two people watching exactly the same footage routinely seem to see very different things&#8212;then they see <em>opposite</em> things when they look at the footage from the other case.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5pGR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3528cc0f-4f75-441b-a051-a816c06b3c20_680x458.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5pGR!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3528cc0f-4f75-441b-a051-a816c06b3c20_680x458.jpeg 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5pGR!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3528cc0f-4f75-441b-a051-a816c06b3c20_680x458.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5pGR!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3528cc0f-4f75-441b-a051-a816c06b3c20_680x458.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5pGR!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3528cc0f-4f75-441b-a051-a816c06b3c20_680x458.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">(credit: <a href="https://x.com/kautzmania/status/2009060886384922826">@Kautzmania</a>)</figcaption></figure></div><p>We all know why.</p><p>Babbitt was right-wing, Good left-wing. Babbitt&#8217;s insurrectionary political theory, courtesy of QAnon, was that the Congressional certification of the 2020 election was illegitimate. Good&#8217;s insurrectionary political theory, courtesy of BlueAnon, was that the White House&#8217;s strict enforcement of Congress&#8217;s immigration law was illegitimate. Both theories were ludicrous, but supported by partisan factions in our society. It&#8217;s almost as difficult to say &#8220;Biden won the 2020 election&#8221; (<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/biden-won">he did</a>) in a Republican precinct caucus these days as it is to say &#8220;ICE is doing a mostly-reasonable job enforcing the clear law of the land&#8221; (<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/ice-in-the-twin-cities-an-faq">it is</a>) in a Democratic precinct caucus.</p><p>About a decade ago, five law professors ran <a href="https://www.stanfordlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2012/05/Kahan-64-Stan-L-Rev-851.pdf">an interesting psychological experiment</a>. They showed 202 representative American adults&#8212;the sort of people who might end up in your jury pool&#8212;a 4-minute video of a large, tense, but ultimately peaceful protest. The law profs split their sample into two groups. They told Group A that it was film of a pro-life protest, at an abortion clinic, against abortion. They told Group B that it was film of a pro-LGBT protest at a military recruitment center, against the military&#8217;s then-current &#8220;Don&#8217;t Ask, Don&#8217;t Tell&#8221; policy. Then they asked the viewers in each group (as though they were a jury) whether the protesters had &#8220;interfered with, obstructed, intimidated, or threatened,&#8221; anyone trying to enter or exit the abortion clinic / recruitment center.</p><p>Surprise surprise: in Group A, thinking that the protesters were pro-life, the right-wingers strongly defended the protesters and the left-wingers said they were guilty of obstruction. In Group B, thinking the protesters were pro-LGBT, the left-wingers suddenly defended the protesters while the right-wingers accused them.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> That was in the early 2010s, before the age of Trump and all the bipartisan madness that has followed.</p><p>Watching the tapes of Renee Good&#8217;s death today, then, it&#8217;s hardly shocking that the two Americas are seeing two different realities. Indeed, one of the really head-turning things about it is that quite a few Americans <a href="https://www.newsweek.com/renee-nicole-good-killing-ice-ashli-babbitt-jan-6-11326844">have </a><em><a href="https://www.newsweek.com/renee-nicole-good-killing-ice-ashli-babbitt-jan-6-11326844">noticed</a></em> that the other side&#8217;s reactions to Good&#8217;s and Babbitt&#8217;s deaths are hypocritical&#8230; but, somehow, they have continued <em>not</em> noticing their own, parallel hypocrisy!</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MyBR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F34f20f8a-e105-485c-9318-7d8ad9c4e0df_586x262.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">This is false: Babbitt had a folding knife in her pocket, she was not simply standing in a doorway but was attempting to climb through it, and a stop command was given. Good apparently did not &#8220;floor it&#8221;. This manufacturing of more-convenient facts is best understood, I think, as a defense mechanism. (<a href="https://x.com/TrumpDailyPosts/status/2009015756311417084">link</a>)</figcaption></figure></div><p>There is only so much we can do about this. America is fraying, we all know this, and many of the forces pulling us apart are not under our control. Some of them can&#8217;t be controlled. I remain <a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2020/08/23/and-the-war-came/">pessimistic</a> about America&#8217;s survival. The categorical <em>rejection</em> of the legitimacy of both U.S. immigration law and federal immigration agents, by one of our two major tribes, represents a legitimacy crisis, which could ultimately lead to civil war.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> (For that matter, so was the other tribe&#8217;s categorical rejection of the 2020 election results.) You can&#8217;t just decide one day to embrace legitimacy, because legitimacy crises&#8212;the really dangerous ones, anyway&#8212;occur precisely in the gaps where legitimacy is <em>not</em> crystal-clear and <em>is</em> open to some interpretation. You&#8217;re going to interpret these crises through the lens of motivated cognition. That&#8217;s a guarantee. All you can do is be aware of your bias and <em>try</em> to correct for it.</p><p>This suggests a useful exercise in the wake of Renee Good&#8217;s death.</p><p>Try to think back to the day of the Capitol insurrection and the death of Ashli Babbitt. When she died, how did you feel about that? Not just in your brain, but in your guts? </p><p>Do you feel similarly now? </p><p>If not, why not? </p><p>Is it just because one of them was in your tribe and the other wasn&#8217;t? If it is, that&#8217;s okay. It&#8217;s human, inescapably so. We do not control our emotions. What we control is how we reason about them, and thus how we act on them. But we can&#8217;t reason about them until we acknowledge them.</p><p>If you have other reasons for feeling differently about the two killings, are those reasons <em>real</em>, or did your brain&#8212;deep-fried in a partisan stew lo these many years (perhaps without your even realizing it)&#8212;present them to you in a desperate attempt to stave off cognitive dissonance? </p><p>What did you think ought to happen to Babbitt&#8217;s killer? How close is that to what you think ought to happen to Renee Good&#8217;s killer?</p><p>I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s a single, clear, right answer to What Should Happen When 30-Something Unarmed-ish Protesters Who Aren&#8217;t Quite Violent But Are Maybe Threatening And Are Definitely Breaking The Law Refuse Reasonable Police Orders And Are Then Shot Dead By Said Police. </p><p>You might take the view that law enforcement is, in general, much too quick to fire and that, in general, the law should hold them more accountable. This seems to be the view of Justin Amash, the ex-Republican libertarian:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dTKm!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc7218421-ebc3-4f13-98c2-8217db0b617a_589x519.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dTKm!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc7218421-ebc3-4f13-98c2-8217db0b617a_589x519.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dTKm!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc7218421-ebc3-4f13-98c2-8217db0b617a_589x519.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dTKm!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc7218421-ebc3-4f13-98c2-8217db0b617a_589x519.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dTKm!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc7218421-ebc3-4f13-98c2-8217db0b617a_589x519.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dTKm!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc7218421-ebc3-4f13-98c2-8217db0b617a_589x519.png" width="589" height="519" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c7218421-ebc3-4f13-98c2-8217db0b617a_589x519.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:519,&quot;width&quot;:589,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:65349,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/183943684?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc7218421-ebc3-4f13-98c2-8217db0b617a_589x519.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dTKm!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc7218421-ebc3-4f13-98c2-8217db0b617a_589x519.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dTKm!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc7218421-ebc3-4f13-98c2-8217db0b617a_589x519.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dTKm!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc7218421-ebc3-4f13-98c2-8217db0b617a_589x519.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dTKm!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc7218421-ebc3-4f13-98c2-8217db0b617a_589x519.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Incidentally, I love Amash and would support him for President in a heartbeat, especially if the choice next cycle is between, say, Gavin Newsom and J.D. Vance. And I wrote that sentence <em>before</em> I found out Amash has <a href="https://x.com/justinamash/status/1348506233230254082">faith of the heart</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><p>This is a rational take, even though I disagree with it. More importantly, it is the standard Amash <em>consistently</em> follows, regardless of the partisan valence. </p><p>Another rational but opposed take is Andy McCarthy&#8217;s. For McCarthy, someone who creates a reasonably serious threat to a federal officer, even by carelessness, is engaged in an actionable assault against that officer, and the officer may therefore defend himself. That is <a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-legal-fallout-from-the-minnesota-ice-shooting/?bypass_key=aFM1d0ZId0dXa2l5SG1RZnVzN0xkZz09OjpjUzlKT1ZZNE9GWk5LM3BPWVc5b2RIVnNaek5OVVQwOQ%3D%3D">McCarthy&#8217;s view</a><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> of Good&#8217;s death. It was also <a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/06/what-the-capitol-riot-prosecutions-tell-us/">his view</a> of Babbitt&#8217;s death, which he said was &#8220;justified.&#8221;</p><p>There are differences between Babbitt&#8217;s case and Good&#8217;s case, of course, which may justify some shades of difference between how you treat them. You might, for example, think Good&#8217;s shooter is guilty of third-degree murder, but that Babbitt&#8217;s shooter is guilty of only manslaughter. Or, on the other banana, you might think that Good&#8217;s shooter should get a medal, while Babbitt&#8217;s shooter should receive only a hearty handshake and a pat on the back. </p><p>What I think you <em>can&#8217;t</em> believe is that one of the shooters was a hero who deserves a medal and the other a murderer who deserves life in prison. What I think you <em>can&#8217;t</em> justify is being furious and terrified by the one while shrugging off the other as &#8220;FAFO.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> I&#8217;ll hear out your argument, but I&#8217;m pretty skeptical.</p><p>As for me?</p><p>Renee Good is freshly dead. Her family is in mourning. She had a child, a six-year-old, whom she had just dropped off at school before going off to protest ICE. I will not speak a word against her here, because it is profoundly immoral to speak ill of the dead when the family is still planning the funeral. This <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/is-charlie-kirk-at-fault-in-his-own">was true</a> of <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/worthy-reads-all-fun-and-games">Charlie Kirk</a> and it is even more true of Renee Good, who was not a public figure.</p><p>However, Ashli Babbitt has been dead long enough that I think it is okay to tell you what I thought when I heard about her death: I thought it was sad, but largely self-inflicted. </p><p>Babbitt had allowed herself to be seduced by a false, conspiratorial narrative about alleged evils in the federal government (some of which had some basis in fact, most of which did not). She was engaged in an insurrection&#8212;<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/137684349/whats-an-insurrection">an attempt</a> to prevent, by force, the execution of one or more laws of the United States for primarily political reasons. She was not herself violent, but the man with the gun didn&#8217;t know that. Even though she was caught mid-crime, she failed to obey very reasonable police instructions. Perhaps this was not out of defiance, but just because she didn&#8217;t hear, or because she panicked and reacted poorly, or because she thought the officers behind her had told her something different. Unfortunately, accompanied by a mob of other insurrectionists, which had created a very tense, precarious situation charged with fear, she had helped eliminate all margin for error. When the trigger was pulled, I think it might well have been an error; there probably <em>were</em> lesser actions the officer could have taken to stop Babbitt without killing her. Yet I don&#8217;t think the shooter was to blame for her death. I don&#8217;t know about giving him a <a href="https://rollcall.com/2023/08/24/capitol-police-promotes-officers-who-got-jan-6-attack-spotlight/">promotion</a>, but I certainly wouldn&#8217;t have charged him with a crime. </p><p>People who break the law, create confrontations with law enforcement, and then refuse to be stopped by non-violent means should have no expectation of surviving what comes next. You may have the <em>legal</em> right to survive, but, in my harsh view, you have forfeited the <em>moral</em> right. You&#8217;ll usually survive anyway (which is good!) but, sometimes, <em>you will die</em>. Do not put yourself in this position unless you are prepared to die.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a> Ashli Babbitt should still be alive, but the most important reason she isn&#8217;t is, unfortunately, Ashli Babbitt.</p><p>However, I could be wrong! Even if my principles are correct, and my judgment of Babbitt is fair, the facts in Renee Good&#8217;s case are not yet in, no matter how many cell phone videos give you the illusion of complete information. My purpose today is not to tell you <em>what</em> to think about these killings; my purpose is only to help you figure out <em>how</em> to think about the killings.</p><p>That is no easy task these days. Your mind is not fighting against merely personal cognitive biases, which are <a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/">bad enough</a>. Your mind is fighting against principalities and powers.</p><p>I keep talking about the possibility of some future civil war, but the truth is that civil war is a spectrum, and we are already on it. We&#8217;ve been in a low-grade civil war since at least 2020. The two rival tribes that occupy the United States are vast, rich, well-organized, and well-armed. Both of them are doing everything in their power to get you to pick a side&#8212;their side. When this war gets hot, they are going to need you to kill the people on the other side, and they are trying to prepare you for that. The tribes can&#8217;t let killings like Babbitt&#8217;s or Good&#8217;s be mere tragic exercises in stupidity; they must be made into martyrdoms or domestic terrorism. If the truth gets in the way of that, the truth will have to go. What looks like truth-telling becomes recruitment.</p><p>Partisan politics is always a little like this, but even partisans (in ordinary time) are restrained from indulging their worst impulses by a shared concern for the good of the country. That&#8217;s gone. The concern is gone because the country is gone. Legally, America clings to life, but, imaginatively, America is already over. The vibe is 1852, and I&#8217;m wondering where our <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleeding_Kansas">Bloody Kansas</a> might pop up.</p><p>So we are alone. It&#8217;s our measly little brains against trillion-dollar decentralized propaganda machines whose input is clever half-truths and whose output is hatred. We&#8217;re all listening to Tokyo Rose, and some of us even pay a subscription. <em>De Civ</em> tries not to be part of those machines, but I&#8217;m immersed in the same mind control soup as you are, so all I can do is try and hope. To keep your brain intact right now is no small victory, and even the most successful of us have gone at least a <em>little</em> crazy.</p><p>Unfortunately, having an intact brain could mean you&#8217;re first against the wall when the Revolution does come. Sorry about that.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>De Civitate</em> is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Here&#8217;s a video from one of Ms. Babbitt&#8217;s compatriots in the Capitol, just after she was killed. It&#8217;s striking to compare the quotes in this video to quotes from Ms. Good&#8217;s compatriots in the anti-ICE movement after her killing:</p><div id="youtube2-eCuIxBzylyo" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;eCuIxBzylyo&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/eCuIxBzylyo?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>Incidentally, the individual in this video, Thomas Burani, was <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/ex-peace-corps-volunteer-capitol-rioter-sentenced-prison-thomas-baranyi-2022-6">later arrested</a> and sentenced to 90 days in federal prison, followed by a year of supervised release and 60 hours of community service, plus a $500 fine. The FBI was able to identify him because, incredibly, he gave his name in this interview. Like Good and Babbitt and all their compatriots, it seems Burani really didn&#8217;t think he was doing anything wrong, and was incapable of conceiving that the consequences of actively impeding the execution of federal law might be lethal, and that lethality might be justified.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>One interesting note: 76% of the left-wingers supported the left-wing protesters, but only 70% of right-wingers supported the right-wing protesters. Meanwhile, 28% of the left-wingers supported the right-wing protesters, but only 16% of the right-wingers did. </p><p>This means that left-wingers are somewhat more supportive (and more trusting) of protesters <em>in general</em> than right-wingers are! Right-wingers are less supportive of protests and more trusting of police, and this is visible even when the protesters are also right-wingers. When you think about it, this isn&#8217;t really surprising, but it is still interesting to see it right there in black and white. Also, the effect is not huge. It is dwarfed by the purely partisan motivated cognition.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>If you&#8217;re new to <em>De Civ</em>, this blog&#8217;s theory is that civil war is caused by a succession of worsening legitimacy crises, culminating in a final legitimacy crisis that starts the shooting. See <em>De Civitate</em>&#8217;s <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/review-of-ross-douthats-reviews-of">Review of Ross Douthat&#8217;s Review of </a><em><a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/review-of-ross-douthats-reviews-of">Civil War</a>.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-legal-fallout-from-the-minnesota-ice-shooting/?bypass_key=aFM1d0ZId0dXa2l5SG1RZnVzN0xkZz09OjpjUzlKT1ZZNE9GWk5LM3BPWVc5b2RIVnNaek5OVVQwOQ%3D%3D">Gift link</a></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The very worst offender here is probably the White House, which posted a deranged revisionist history of January 6, 2021 (which lionized Ashli Babbitt) on Tuesday, then spent Wednesday berating Renee Good as a psychopath from whom ICE agents barely escaped with their lives (which is simply false).</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is not to say that there are no occasions where it is appropriate and correct to openly violate the written law, especially when that law is unjust. The heroic nonviolent civil disobedience of the Civil Rights Movement is America's most important example of exactly that.</p><p>There may even be situations where it is appropriate to refuse or resist even a peaceful arrest (although I am having a harder time coming up with one). If you do that, though, you must accept the possibility that you will die, and that no one will be to blame for your death but yourself. If you are the type of person who might accidentally resist arrest or escalate a situation because of panic or confusion, you should not place yourself in these situations at all.</p><p>That is only my view, though. I believe strongly in the law and the sovereign&#8217;s authority to execute it&#8212;some have said too strongly&#8212;and I recognize there is a very valid range of views on when law enforcement is justified in using lethal force. I do not seek today to defend any specific position. My goal is only to ensure that, whatever view one takes of lethal force, that view is <em>consistent</em>.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[If They'd Made Me Pope: Fast Fast Fixes]]></title><description><![CDATA[Restoring the ancient disciplines]]></description><link>https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/if-theyd-made-me-pope-fast-fasting</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/if-theyd-made-me-pope-fast-fasting</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[James J. Heaney]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2026 14:05:15 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AkQU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75fd0cd9-396a-4e8c-8ba8-6dbd1c210e57_501x737.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Several years ago, I visited a Dominican friend of mine who was being ordained to the transitional diaconate in Washington, D.C.. When I jokingly mentioned that either one of us could be elected pope, he laughed right in my face and said I would be a terrible pope. (He added that so would he.) My friend was right, of course, but it still got me thinking harder: what makes a good pope? What should a pope actually do?</em></p><p><em>Now we have a new pope, so, on the off chance Pope Leo XIV is browsing De Civ looking for ideas, <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/roundup-if-theyd-made-me-pope">this ongoing series</a> says what I&#8217;d do If They&#8217;d Made Me Pope.</em></p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AkQU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75fd0cd9-396a-4e8c-8ba8-6dbd1c210e57_501x737.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AkQU!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75fd0cd9-396a-4e8c-8ba8-6dbd1c210e57_501x737.png 424w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">St. John the Baptist ate locusts and honey for <em>years</em>, and Christ thought John was the <em>bee&#8217;s knees</em>, so what&#8217;s that tell us about <em>our</em> fasting habits?</figcaption></figure></div><p>Straddling the border between Catholicism&#8217;s immutable, divine doctrines and its messy, fluctuating human governance, we find the disciplines, which are a little bit of both. </p><p>Catholic disciplines strike close to the heart of Catholic life, in a way that (for example) the <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/170242816/slow-your-roll-santo-subito">formal process</a> for investigating a possible saint doesn&#8217;t. As such, many (all?) of the disciplines are grounded in Scripture or very ancient practice. The details have evolved over time through a complex interplay of local customs, universal customs, codified rubrics, and actual canon law. </p><p>However, the disciplines form much of the warp and woof of daily Catholic life. Even though they <em>can</em> change, actually changing them feels like a revolution.</p><p>For example, everyone in the world knows that Catholics don&#8217;t eat meat on Fridays in Lent. This is so well-known that there&#8217;s a common story that McDonald&#8217;s introduced the Filet-o-Fish sandwich during Lent so that they could continue to sell sandwiches to Catholics during those six weeks.</p><p>The story is mostly true. Lou Groen, a Catholic in a 90% Catholic neighborhood, owned a Cleveland McDonald&#8217;s and was getting destroyed on Fridays. &#8220;Everyone was going down the street on Fridays to Frisch&#8217;s restaurant that sold a fish sandwich,&#8221; his granddaughter <a href="https://www.ncregister.com/features/how-a-catholic-businessman-put-the-filet-o-fish-on-the-mcdonald-s-menu">explained</a>. Fridays averaged a measly $75 in sales. Groen talked Ray Kroc into allowing fish onto the menu, which saved his business and created a nationally successful sandwich.</p><p>Only Groen didn&#8217;t do this in Lent. He was losing his shirt in Winter 1961; he introduced the Filet-o-Fish on <a href="https://www.nmar.org/this-month-in-history/february-13-1962-the-first-filet-o-fish-sandwich-is-sold-at-mcdonalds-to-cater-to-the-cincinnati-area-catholic-community">February 13, 1962</a>. Lent that year didn&#8217;t start until <a href="https://www.thecatholicnewsarchive.org/?a=d&amp;d=ca19620301-01.2.34&amp;e=-------en-20--1--txt-txIN--------">March 8</a>. So why is Groen making bank on fish sandwiches in January?</p><p>At the time, the discipline of the Church was that Catholics must abstain from meat on <em>all Fridays of the year</em>, which had been the discipline of the Church from time immemorial. In the early 1960s, the Vatican allowed national churches to vary the rule, so, in 1966, the U.S. National Council of Catholic Bishops (like many other national bishops&#8217; councils) passed legislation that allowed Catholics to do an alternate form of penance on Fridays outside Lent, so (of course) the whole discipline immediately collapsed. Nobody did alternate forms of penance. They just stopped treating Fridays special. In law, the discipline remains. In custom, most Catholics only abstain from meat on Fridays in Lent, and the transition has been so complete that very few people even <em>remember</em> that the practice used to be quite different.</p><p>This is both an illustration of what Catholic disciplines are, and a cautionary tale about changing them. Canon law and its obscure legal processes can be changed (relatively) easily. All you have to do is tell the canon lawyers and local bishops what the new law is and make sure they follow it. The disciplines, however, are more of a living thing. To be effective, they must be received by the whole Catholic people. This is hard. They should not change lightly. They cannot change easily. The pope&#8217;s legal power to change them is unlimited; his practical power anything but.</p><p>How&#8217;s that for an intro to a pair of articles about how the pope should change a bunch of Catholic disciplines?<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p><h2>Restore a Eucharistic Fast</h2><p>Catholics love our bodies. We love the flesh. God created it all good. However, we are keenly aware that the pleasures of the flesh, though good in themselves, are so <em>loud</em> that they can make it impossible to hear the still, silent voice of God. Jesus Himself fasted frequently, and <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%206%3A16-18&amp;version=NIV">exhorted</a> His followers to fast prayerfully. The flesh must learn its place. </p><p>One place where this is particularly obvious is the Eucharist. Since Christianity&#8217;s earliest days, worshippers have fasted from human food and drink for a period of time before receiving the Living Bread in Holy Communion. This gives the recipient time and space to cultivate an appropriately receptive spirit.</p><p>Unfortunately, today&#8217;s Eucharistic &#8220;fast&#8221; is a joke. Canon law currently requires a fast from food and drink<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> for only one hour before communion. Not before Mass; before <em>communion</em>, which typically occurs 40-50 minutes <em>into</em> Mass. What this boils down to, then, is a &#8220;don&#8217;t eat during Mass&#8221; rule, with a small &#8220;no snacks in the car on the ride over&#8221; proviso. It is worthless. My grandparents (who were the furthest thing from fanatics) refused to believe that the Church would impose such a ridiculous rule, and, as far as I know, they went to their graves maintaining a fast of one hour before Mass, which was what they assumed the rule <em>must</em> actually be. Meanwhile, other Catholics today often have no idea the rule even exists, or ever existed!</p><p>Throughout the second millennium, the Eucharistic fast began at midnight and ran until the Eucharist was consumed. This is <a href="https://archives.sophronius.org/raw-books/The%20Definitive%20Guide%20to%20Catholic%20Fasting%20%26%20Abstinence_%20--%20Matthew%20Plese%20--%202%2C%202024%20--%20Our%20Lady%20of%20Victory%20Press%20--%20d29c74a87c22022b882f11538e69b43a%20--%20Anna%E2%80%99s%20Archive.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com">confirmed</a> both by Thomas Aquinas and the Council of Trent. Earlier norms varied. (For example, some jurisdictions began the fast at sunset on the previous day.) However, all traditions agreed that the Eucharist ought to be the first thing a Christian consumed on the day of reception. </p><p>This worked well for the time, since people were <a href="https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220107-the-lost-medieval-habit-of-biphasic-sleep">mostly</a> asleep in the middle of the night and Mass began in the morning, so it was <em>effectively</em> a fast of perhaps three to six hours. In the modern era, as I understand it, the dire pastoral constraints imposed by World War II pressured the Church to enable Masses at different times of the day. Once enabled, I guess it was hard to put the genie back in the bottle. However, the midnight-to-Eucharist fast is much more difficult if Eucharist is at 6:00 p.m. instead of 6:00 a.m.! The Church sought an accommodation to enable evening Mass without making the fast onerous.</p><p>In 1953, Pope Pius XII offered a &#8220;concession,&#8221; which mitigated the fasting requirement to just three hours for those attending evening Mass. In 1957 (perhaps finding such selective discipline unworkable), Pius extended the concession universally, but he nevertheless &#8220;strongly exhort[ed]&#8221; everyone to continue observing the ancient midnight fast. He further insisted:</p><blockquote><p>All those who will make use of these concessions must compensate for the good received by becoming shining examples of a Christian life and principally with works of penance and charity. [sic]</p></blockquote><p>LOL. ROFL, even. My understanding is that everyone used the concession, and nobody felt particularly obligated to become a shining example of Christian life. Sometimes I read things from popes that make me wonder whether they&#8217;ve ever actually met a Catholic.</p><p>In 1964, shortly after the Second Vatican Council, Pope St. Paul VI shortened Pius&#8217;s plausible three hours to today&#8217;s single useless hour. To this day, I wonder whether Paul thought he was imposing the requirement my grandparents thought he was imposing (fast for an hour before Mass), but what he signed reduced the Eucharistic fast to an hour before communion, effectively abrogating a universal spiritual practice dating back to before Augustine, and quite possibly all the way to the Apostles. </p><p>The argument at the time was that barriers to the Eucharist needed to be torn down, but, if that was true, then surely we have gone too far in the opposite direction. The Church feared a world in which the overscrupulous received only rarely (sometimes as little as once per year!), but we now live in a world where the underscrupulous receive weekly, very often in a state of serious sin, &#8220;eating and drinking judgment upon themselves,&#8221; as <a href="https://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/11-29.htm">Scripture</a> says. Confessors today must remind penitents that this, too, is a serious sin. Many never hear them, because loads of people in the weekly communion line haven&#8217;t been to confession in <em>years</em> (which is <em>also</em> a sin!). The Eucharist should never be fenced off from the faithful, to whom Christ gave it as His greatest gift, but maybe a nice little gate? If nothing else, the midnight Eucharistic fast provided a good excuse to teenage boys who wanked the night before and needed a parent-safe excuse for avoiding the communion line. The one-hour fast is useless for this, requiring the teen in question to perform comical imbecility about ten seconds before getting in the car.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a></p><p>I do genuinely love and make great use of evening and night Masses, which have thrived thanks to these concessions. One of my favorite Masses in college was the &#8220;Last Chance Mass&#8221; at the local minor seminary, which was a beautiful little Mass, always packed to the gills, offered at 9:30 p.m.! I am also aware of the danger of imposing disciplines too enthusiastically on a flock that has grown used to their absence. Nevertheless, the Eucharistic fast was good for the flock and good for the Church. We effectively do not have one.</p><p>As a result of their decentralized ecclesiology, the modern Eastern Orthodox have a stubborn adherence to received traditions, with minimal accommodations to modernity. In the fasting department, this has served them very well. <a href="https://orthodoxwiki.org/Fasting#Preparation_for_receiving_the_Holy_Eucharist">Current</a> E.O. <a href="https://stmichaelscleveland.org/qna/fast-prior-to-communion/">practice</a> <em>in general</em> is a midnight fast before morning Eucharist and a six-hour fast before any evening Eucharist (but, of course, Orthodoxy&#8217;s decentralized ecclesiology admits considerable local variation). Since Catholicism already tried having different rules for morning and evening Masses (and, apparently, it didn&#8217;t work), Pope Me would simply impose a universal six-hour fast. For people who sleep until 6:00 a.m. and Mass in the morning, this is functionally the same as a midnight-onward fast, but it makes evening Mass possible.</p><p>This would undoubtedly take many years to sink back in. Eighty years in abeyance will make any discipline strange and foreign-feeling, no matter how many thousands of years of life it had before that. Still, we&#8217;d get it into the examinations of conscience, we&#8217;d have priests preach about it, we&#8217;d probably have to <em>sigh </em>write a document explaining it to the world (something my papacy would <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/if-theyd-made-me-pope-preliminaries">steadfastly avoid</a> in general). Slowly but surely, this valuable and venerable spiritual practice would return to the West.</p><h2>Restore Meat-Free Fridays Year-Round</h2><p>All that stuff I just said, but for the Friday fast.</p><p>As I explained in the intro, it is <em>already</em> technically the rule that, on Fridays, Catholics are to either abstain from meat or perform &#8220;<a href="https://www.vatican.va/archive/cod-iuris-canonici/eng/documents/cic_lib4-cann1244-1253_en.html">alternate forms of penance</a>.&#8221; The alternate forms of penance did not take root, but everyone abandoned meat abstinence anyway, so, in most of the Catholic world, the rule is now all but forgotten. </p><p>I would abolish the alternate form of penance.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> The entire Church would return to meatless Fridays. Kids at school would stop looking at my kid weird when she says she can&#8217;t have sausage pizza because it&#8217;s Friday. My kids would stop thinking it&#8217;s some kind of weird Heaney-family tradition rather than the still-binding universal law of the Church.</p><p>This would, again, take time. The U.K. Catholic Church restored meatless Fridays in 2011. A 2021 survey of Catholics in England and Wales <a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4237616">showed</a> that, ten years later, about 26% of self-identified Catholics in the U.K. were actually following the new abstinence rule<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> and about 41% of U.K. Catholics had at least changed their diets because of the rule. </p><p>This is actually pretty good! When surveying Catholics, you must remember that the majority of the surveyed population is not religiously Catholic, but only culturally Catholic, with marginal attachment to the Church. Religious Catholics attend Mass weekly. (Failure to do so is a grave sin.) In the U.K., <a href="https://catholicsinbritain.le.ac.uk/findings/catholics-in-britain-and-weekly-mass-attendance/">only 41%</a> of self-identified &#8220;Catholics&#8221; actually attend Mass at least <em>monthly</em>, and only 31% attend at least weekly. </p><p>If we make the reasonable assumption that the overwhelming majority of Catholics who are following the meat-free Friday rule are also weekly Mass-goers, then this survey data shows that a majority of weekly Mass-goers are following the new abstinence rules, only ten years into their implementation!<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a> Give it another generation or two, and everyone will have forgotten the anomalous years where Catholics ate meat on Friday outside of Lent.</p><h2>Strengthen the Lenten Fast</h2><p>All that stuff I just said, but for Lent.</p><p>Catholics currently abstain from meat on Fridays in Lent. (In Lent, no alternate form of penance is permitted.) On Ash Wednesday, we are also required to refrain from eating between meals, and to cut back from three regular-sized meals to one regular-sized meal and two small meals. In practice&#8230; those two &#8220;small meals&#8221; typically look pretty regular to me.</p><p>Compare this to Eastern Orthodox fasting, which is much closer to the historical norms of the Church. On <em>every</em> weekday in Lent, the Orthodox abstain from both meat <em>and</em> dairy. (Many add oil, fish, wine, and shellfish, at least during Holy Week.) On <em>every</em> weekday in Lent, they eliminate breakfast and reduce the size of lunch and dinner. Of course, the Orthodox place great emphasis on individual spiritual direction. Every source I have seen insists that their fasting rules are ideals for those capable of attaining them, not universally binding laws as in Catholicism. Still and all, they&#8217;re beating us on Lenten dietary fasting like Keith Moon on the drums.</p><p>On the other hand, communal dietary fasting is not the only kind of fasting there is. Catholics also &#8220;give something up for Lent,&#8221; such as desserts or video games. This is universally seen as an ordinary Catholic discipline. Nearly all Catholics do it, even those only marginally attached to the Church.</p><p>This is surprising for two reasons. First: as far as I can tell, the practice of &#8220;giving something up for Lent&#8221; in this individual way did not exist before 1900. Here&#8217;s a Google Ngram:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WPqY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c2efc24-c737-4f67-ba48-856c50a9f8d1_1673x839.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WPqY!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c2efc24-c737-4f67-ba48-856c50a9f8d1_1673x839.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WPqY!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c2efc24-c737-4f67-ba48-856c50a9f8d1_1673x839.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WPqY!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c2efc24-c737-4f67-ba48-856c50a9f8d1_1673x839.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WPqY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c2efc24-c737-4f67-ba48-856c50a9f8d1_1673x839.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WPqY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c2efc24-c737-4f67-ba48-856c50a9f8d1_1673x839.png" width="1456" height="730" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8c2efc24-c737-4f67-ba48-856c50a9f8d1_1673x839.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:730,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:105612,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/183103808?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c2efc24-c737-4f67-ba48-856c50a9f8d1_1673x839.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WPqY!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c2efc24-c737-4f67-ba48-856c50a9f8d1_1673x839.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WPqY!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c2efc24-c737-4f67-ba48-856c50a9f8d1_1673x839.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WPqY!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c2efc24-c737-4f67-ba48-856c50a9f8d1_1673x839.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WPqY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c2efc24-c737-4f67-ba48-856c50a9f8d1_1673x839.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This practice <a href="https://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/fasting-abstinence-and-measure-faith/">appears</a> to have arisen in direct response to the Church loosening its dietary laws. That&#8217;s the second reason it&#8217;s surprising! In the early twentieth century, the Church repealed a <em>lot</em> of official penitential disciplines, while encouraging Catholics to either voluntarily keep the practice or develop &#8220;alternate forms of penance.&#8221; We saw this already with meatless Fridays and the Eucharistic fast. This always failed. Catholics simply abandoned the discipline altogether.</p><p>Except here. For whatever reason, when Lenten fasting was rolled back, Catholics did, apparently, adopt alternate forms of penance <em>en masse</em>. I would love to read a paper on why this was received so differently.</p><p>The private forms of penance we practice are not perfect. Many Catholics, operating without real guidance from their pastors, try to give up sins or vicious habits for Lent, like &#8220;<a href="https://www.christiantoday.com/news/most-christians-gave-up-social-media-for-lent-poll">pornography</a>&#8221; or &#8220;<a href="https://focus.org/posts/20-unique-things-to-give-up-for-lent/">doomscrolling</a>.&#8221; You aren&#8217;t supposed to give up bad habits for Lent. You are a Christian. You are supposed to give up bad habits <em>all year round</em>! The point of fasting is to give up <em>good stuff</em>. As Pope, I would gently clarify this.</p><p>Nevertheless, the private forms of penance are a good, healthy discipline. If the pope were to bring back six-days-a-week fasting and abstinence out of the blue, there is a real risk that he would fatally disrupt the modern private practice while failing to actually restore the ancient practice. When it comes to the disciplines, the pope must be humble about what he can practically accomplish. Yet the Orthodox show us that we really could be doing more, as a Church, to prepare our hearts for the Lord in Lent.</p><p>So, if I were pope, I would make a prudent, fairly modest change: restore fasting (in addition to meat abstinence) to <em>all</em> Lenten Fridays. If that went well, then, ten years later, I might add Wednesdays and/or dairy abstinence and/or abstinence from sex.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a></p><h2>When We Feast, We Feast!</h2><p>A very wise priest<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a> once said, &#8220;Ah, Catholics! When we feast, <em><strong>WE FEAST! </strong></em>When we fast&#8230; we cheat!<em>&#8221; </em></p><p>Why shouldn&#8217;t we? We are an Easter people! Christ has defeated the grave! His resurrection and the joy that comes with it is always sprouting up unexpectedly, even in seasons of penance.</p><p>For example, all fasting is suspended on holy days. What counts as a holy day, you ask? There are <a href="https://www.qoa.life/info/solemnities-holy-days-of-obligation/">16 solemnities</a> on the calendar (not all of them include an obligation to attend Mass)&#8230; <em>plus</em> every Sunday on the calendar is a holy day, so throw in another 52. If you are giving things up on a Sunday in Lent, <em>stop</em>. Go feast. <a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2012/05/01/why-catholics-dont-fast-on-sundays/">The GIRM demands it.</a><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a> That&#8217;s why Catholic Lent has 46 days in it: 40 days of fasting, like Christ in the desert, plus 6 Sundays of feasting. This dates back <a href="https://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2025/02/the-antiquity-and-universality-of-fore_02058960712.html">at least</a> as far as Pope St. Gregory the Great.</p><p>(The Orthodox do it even harder. For all their rigorous fasting, they suspend it on both Saturdays <em>and</em> Sundays&#8212;following the Canons of the Council in Trullo aka the Apostolic Canons&#8212;which means they make Lent even longer to get a full 40-day fast in.)</p><p>Here&#8217;s another, less known &#8220;cheat&#8221;: on the Catholic calendar, days are measured midnight-to-midnight&#8230; <em>except</em> Sundays and solemnities. These holy days begin at the evening of the preceding day. Hence the Liturgy of the Hours for Sundays always has Evening Prayer I (for Saturday night) and Evening Prayer II (for Sunday night). This is also why vigil Masses in the evening on &#8220;Saturday&#8221; fulfill the Sunday obligation, but Masses on Saturday morning (for example, typical wedding Masses) do not. Liturgically speaking, it&#8217;s already Sunday! So quit fasting! There are few things better than pouring yourself a tall glass of chocolate milk with some Oreos after dinner on a Saturday night in Lent.</p><p>In recent years, I have learned that my view is controversial. Some <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20220315032542/https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/2-meat-fridays-maybe?s=r">learned commenters</a> argue that there is a distinction between a Catholic <em>liturgical</em> day and a Catholic <em>legal </em>day. The liturgical day, they agree, runs sunset-to-following-midnight, but penances and fasting (they argue) are tied to the <em>legal</em> day and therefore run midnight-to-midnight.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a> This strikes me as unnecessarily complicated and spiritually baseless. It seems absurd that I could celebrate the Feast of St. Joseph in the evening because it is <em>liturgically</em> his solemnity, but then be barred from actually <em>feasting</em> St. Joseph because it is <em>legally</em> not his solemnity for six more hours.</p><p>Fortunately, the premise of this series is that I&#8217;m the pope. Pope James is officially clarifying this one in favor of the &#8220;cheaters,&#8221; hands down.</p><p>One more change I would make in the spirit of feasting: under current law, Friday fasts are suspended during the octave of Christmas and the octave of Easter. To further emphasize the joy of the Church, Pope Celestine VI (me) would suspend Friday fasting for the entire season between Christmas and Epiphany and between Easter and Ascension Thursday. The Incarnation and the Resurrection are the most important events in human history, and our joy over them should not be interrupted. When we feast, we feast!</p><h2>Ascension Thursday on Ascension Thursday</h2><p>The Feast of the Ascension is a high holy day. All Catholics are obligated to attend Mass.  It falls on the fortieth day after Easter. <a href="https://onepeterfive.com/forgotten-customs-ascensiontide/">Traditionally</a>, there&#8217;s a whole octave of celebration after it&#8212;eight days!</p><p>However, in many countries where Ascension is not a public holiday (including the U.S.), the feast is transferred to Sunday. I don&#8217;t mind if, say, Immaculate Conception occasionally gets transferred or abrogated, but, come on, Ascension is on a Thursday <em>every year</em>. It <em>always</em> gets transferred to Sunday.</p><p>That&#8217;s just silly. This is a major feast. The Risen Christ rose up into Heaven and we&#8217;ve been waiting for Him ever since. Go to Mass. Permission to fiddle with Ascension Thursday is revoked.</p><p>Plus, if Ascension Thursday is on Thursday and it&#8217;s celebrated as an octave, with no fasting in the octave&#8230; that&#8217;s not one, but <em>two</em> extra Meat Fridays! When we feast, we feast; when we fast&#8230;</p><p>Well, you know the rest.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>De Civitate</em> is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p><em><strong>NEXT VOYAGE</strong>:</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a><em> more disciplinary changes, focusing on the liturgy and priestly formation, including my pitch for married priests. (Hear me out!) In other work, I think I&#8217;m due for a Worthy Reads and I&#8217;m torn between writing about moral immigration principles, my pessimism about mass killings like the Annunciation massacre, and a (final?) follow-up on my <a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2021/06/09/my-chat-with-commissioner-simington-or-fifteen-questions-i-asked-a-republican-fcc-commissioner/">lengthy obsession</a> with net neutrality.</em></p><p><em>For the rest of this series, see:</em></p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;27a99fb7-4137-4917-b803-161bc4042383&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;The If They&#8217;d Made Me Pope series is getting lengthy, so here&#8217;s a roundup of all the installments:&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:&quot;Read full story&quot;,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Roundup: If They'd Made Me Pope&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:1325032,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;James J. Heaney&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:&quot;Walker Percy would have a whole lot to say about our attempts to sum up our selves in a few hundred characters. I blog at decivitate.substack.com.&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/41beb8c0-7588-452c-aa29-c4456d1f3e5d_293x293.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2025-06-18T07:01:34.894Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gKyf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd3dee7ce-20ba-4851-a4fa-fc52d518800c_728x484.jpeg&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/roundup-if-theyd-made-me-pope&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:166219775,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:1,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:585169,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;De Civitate&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U6Ka!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb3402975-a951-4f1e-93b1-b4ea73860550_293x293.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>An important note: in this article, I am generally talking about what the Pope ought to do in his role as patriarch of the Western Church, <em>not</em> in his role as pastor and teacher of all Christians. Although the pope has universal jurisdiction, it is usually inappropriate for him to exercise it on matters of mere discipline outside the Latin Church. </p><p>Therefore, the Eastern Catholic Churches in communion with Rome would, in general, continue their own internal practices unmolested by these changes. Besides, my impression is that they are already well ahead of the Latin Church on many of these points.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Water and medicine excepted; young and infirm excluded; and with a general &#8220;use common sense&#8221; proviso.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Ask me how I know! </p><p>On second thought, don&#8217;t!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8230;with the usual proviso allowing exceptions in cases of necessity, or as a fallback if someone forgets and accidentally eats meat on a Friday.</p><p>A good alternate form of penance, in my view, would be to pray one rosary, or a good work of similar effort. This takes about 15 minutes, which is very manageable. </p><p>Full disclosure: in my family, for at least a generation, the designated alternate form of penance has always been to pray just <em>one decade</em> of the Rosary. I admit this is kind of weaksauce (it takes less time or effort than brushing your teeth), but I have been reluctant to change family tradition when the Church as a whole has effectively abandoned Friday penances altogether, and we are mostly doing a pretty good job staying meat-free anyway.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>13% eliminated meat from their Friday diets in response to the change (28%*41%; <a href="https://download.ssrn.com/22/10/07/ssrn_id4237616_code1865514.pdf?response-content-disposition=inline&amp;X-Amz-Security-Token=IQoJb3JpZ2luX2VjEIT%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FwEaCXVzLWVhc3QtMSJHMEUCIQDLl9v%2BGoAE5GnIFbYQyDbZmaSWVR8mzjj39BqC9%2BgKxwIgH8UPiPNrxMpJlKOMjRQz5V5wZRlI0KbSZxO9ZVzT9I8qvAUITBAEGgwzMDg0NzUzMDEyNTciDJC%2FLxZyQtLhlVgJfSqZBQNTFOQIRs3RenStXUqx61KYpRjpyjgHObnAnng%2FlgEmoG9F8GdMazfhVo5xntJXqvfstlNd0tLHrxLotsmB%2BRlYh2oBMy64xE18ZtqNz%2BihuG75cWCNOt9E1NYCy1ooMJOGE2YNLPTlFxNjQdPFib6RVavnQj1uKfNLUQkrwAi31orN6BVHjtjk2NaPjaCHFev2k%2FNButzGz2Gxb4D%2FYqxJB3sW8o0DnkMQ8UeFg0j3qenWqyQKBNOR51Fyxo752euWoWY7fEPeGDcig%2B2sxsaqpOw0ZxJ6wHTRvTo31Rk3p5rvSjdRvQigyW4e3zrrXosPHzTHf%2FsvvN3HTh7YlxgfuEM10g7PrbtfetWbefeEhGJ%2FlkpVF9TzxUfX5Re209cX9YSAitz4wO8410in0f%2F%2B1x8IOEZKNwWrh7WZFYpnRO1fph%2Br6i64as6DUsJMIJmN095Ohc42hzT8fjtggPsFXNgO7JynOwZUqHwzOu8%2FsGYbSekrNktetX%2FtMiC%2FXQYbfJku%2F0zH0tQUCqAHbtztdWpgZEher72qcWQVv9eoIJKfvbSomy5ldH%2FqenvkMq0xhUj0b2lXSz8rh46dXkwVVVwUXveBmewgCFzaBfny9QbA9ay7xR5eC8Eh5OH9qXP20R4yFxpiTu6CdVPTE3clSeICUgMceuX60uUNKr%2BWrb%2BYkrhB963DUO7yySDzZNqG%2FbubN0WtjK8gU1eVlIveTEF4Ft%2BZowC5RfwTvtlTSwvZpSsDb5Etks55QRXCyDbjkRdmklC%2BfYnrgrmP2YdO4%2F3IfW70NwmaxRHzV2asNrBlNcB2cm6XQZOYk86ftXVSejZwafldzOdhH621NicM2AY6rx0sPRh8Bl34COy1IhtvWwPQAnowMKSZ8MoGOrEBW2JNJPrme9Ag%2F6%2F5HXOhx21tLKeFOqU6%2BTSqV7jxXm%2BfrSiQBK6LUtIU6zYnzmrtrkD8b%2B6Ibkv7e1mhDhB9vWNeVeunLLrxdfQdkBBj%2BFJ%2FWn%2FEzIE3vpnv2lT9DsBcK5knZApyBkoBQEBUBGHqRID89PeapEOC4oYwM2ht56AfipWcqClwzQYgZS1ZDGsjTdzFSAp8dA0BIGJUWzuuCupOY4xiiwY6HRTYdWZ52rFg&amp;X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&amp;X-Amz-Date=20260105T193309Z&amp;X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&amp;X-Amz-Expires=300&amp;X-Amz-Credential=ASIAUPUUPRWEQTXGH57X%2F20260105%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&amp;X-Amz-Signature=3a69f553836e0038b14ad3572dcafea9bbe8594a7ecd8ac3aa69581b6e677308&amp;abstractId=4237616">see page 9</a>), and 13% were already avoiding meat on Friday (72%*18%; see page 10). Even more heartening, an additional 15% said they had <em>reduced</em> meat consumption on Fridays, which suggests progress with more room to grow in the future.</p><p>In addition, 25% of U.K. Catholics reported they were <em>unaware </em>of the changes (see page 10), which is another growth opportunity&#8230; except I suspect that a very tiny fraction of that bloc is religiously Catholic.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Of course, it bears mentioning that the British Church was much slower to adopt the &#8220;alternate forms of penance&#8221; concept than most other national churches in the first place&#8212;they made the change in 1985, not 1966 like most&#8212;so it shallower roots. I expect results in America would lag behind this.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>One should be very careful about adding any penitential abstinence from sex. The days on which faithful Catholic couples can have sex is already, in many cases, very limited. Couples using Church-approved fertility awareness methods to space their children are already prevented from having sex for about half of every month. (More, if anyone involved has qualms about sex during the bloody days.) Catholics with irregular cycles or who are nursing may have far less opportunity. This is in addition to the usual practical barriers to having sex: they&#8217;re exhausted from taking care of their existing children, he has a headache, she has a cold. Some couples have military deployments to contend with, or debilitating illnesses, other large obstacles to regular conjugal life.</p><p>When you take all this and start adding extra days where the Church forbids sex just because of the liturgical season, the burden gets heavy much faster than you&#8217;d expect, as the sex-abstinence days consume some of the sometimes very limited opportunities good Catholic couples have for intimacy. There&#8217;s a notorious flowchart from Prof. James Brundage&#8217;s <em>Law, Sex, and Christian Society in Medieval Europe</em> that makes this point rather emphatically, even though it is significantly exaggerated:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pyyq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F83949111-8d86-48f1-82a6-94d544d50ca1_842x1170.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pyyq!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F83949111-8d86-48f1-82a6-94d544d50ca1_842x1170.png 424w, 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Neither is the case. For example, the Church has occasionally discouraged, but never forbidden, sex on a feast day. Far from instructing couples &#8220;not to enjoy it,&#8221; the Church long taught that couples have, to some extent, a moral<em> obligation</em> to earnestly pursue and obtain orgasm for both husband and wife. I present a <a href="https://decivitate.substack.com/p/theologiae-moralis-iii-de-usu-conjugii">more balanced view</a> of the Church&#8217;s traditional sexual teachings in my translation of Bishop Kenrick&#8217;s <em>De Usu Conjugii</em>. </p><p>That said, I&#8217;m sure medieval penitential guides can be found which teach every single one of these things, so it&#8217;s not that Brundage was wrong, just that this flowchart, standing alone, lacks context. (Heck, for all I know, Brundage included all that context in the actual book, but the chart has become independently famous and is nearly always presented as a guide to the actual sex rules for medieval peasants.)</p><p>Anyway, I digress. My point was that one must be cautious about adding sex-abstinence days to the Church&#8217;s official fasting calendar. </p><p>However, at the same time, sex is the perfect thing to fast from. It is hugely good, and it is hugely distracting from the higher things of the Lord. Adding six sex-free days to the Church calendar would probably do quite a bit more good than harm&#8230; but adding forty or fifty almost certainly wouldn&#8217;t.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I could be mistaken, but I believe this was the great Fr. Michael Tavuzzi, O.P.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The USCCB has an FAQ on their website that kinda-sorta disagrees with me on this point:</p><blockquote><p>Apart from the prescribed days of fast and abstinence on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday, and the days of abstinence every Friday of Lent, Catholics have traditionally chosen additional penitential practices for the whole Time of Lent. These practices are disciplinary in nature and often more effective if they are continuous, i.e., kept on Sundays as well. That being said, such practices are not regulated by the Church, but by individual conscience.</p></blockquote><p>This is mealy-mouthed, but, to the extent that it takes a position, it is incorrect. Sundays are feast days. Feast.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>My own bishop, the subject of <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20220315032542/https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/2-meat-fridays-maybe?s=r">that article</a>, has cleverly avoided making his own view perfectly clear. I know two canon lawyers who work for him. One of them, whom I very much like and respect and who has <em>vastly</em> more knowledge than I do on this, disagrees with my view on this, and sees no problem with a distinction between the liturgical day and the legal day.</p><p>My papal decree <a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Jossed">jossing</a> his interpretation will therefore taunt him, by name, which I think is the only responsible papal choice in that situation, don&#8217;t you?</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>LLM Disclosure: In this article, and probably others in the series, I am running AI title tests. First, I come up with a title for the article. (In this case, I came up with &#8220;Fast Fasting Fixes,&#8221; because I am a sucker for alliteration.) Then, I feed the article into GPT and ask it to generate one title, optimized for social media. (This time, GPT gave me &#8220;Bring Back the Fast,&#8221; which I corrected to &#8220;Fasts.&#8221;) </em></p><p><em>When the article launches, a quarter of you get this article in your inbox with my title on it, a quarter of you get the LLM title, and the other half gets nothing. Whichever title generates the most inbox clicks in the first hour after launch automatically becomes the permanent title of the article, and it is then emailed to the remaining half of </em>De Civ<em>&#8217;s subscribers.</em></p><p><em>I earnestly hope to beat the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1F36LvfVQg">clankers</a> here, but the only way to know is to try.</em></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[ICE in the Twin Cities: An FAQ]]></title><description><![CDATA[If you think ICE is the Gestapo, you might be entitled to compensation from your Misinformation Insurance.]]></description><link>https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/ice-in-the-twin-cities-an-faq</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/ice-in-the-twin-cities-an-faq</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[James J. Heaney]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2025 15:02:39 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/youtube/w_728,c_limit/BDFfI_FBmBg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The number of people who called me a &#8220;bootlicker&#8221; this week for stating obvious facts like, &#8220;Police can, do, and should stop people from violating police cordons, by force if necessary&#8221; means that we are, unfortunately, due for another of De Civitate&#8217;s regrettable series of &#8220;<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/take-ing-on-the-new-administration">Not-That-Bads.</a>&#8221; We will start with general principles, because there is great confusion about even the most basic facts of immigration law. We will then consider a couple specific Twin Cities cases.</em></p><h2>Q: Is ICE abducting people?</h2><p>No. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is a federal law enforcement agency. It was established in 2003, but its predecessors date back to the Immigration Act of 1891. Every Congress has voted to fund ICE, every year, since its creation.</p><p>As a law enforcement agency, ICE has the authority to <em>detain</em> and <em>arrest </em>people for legitimate law enforcement purposes, if consistent with the Fourth Amendment. </p><h2>Q: Whom can ICE try to remove from the United States?</h2><p>If ICE has probable cause showing that a person is not legally present in the United States, it may initiate removal proceedings against that individual.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p><h2>Q: That&#8217;s it? </h2><p>That&#8217;s it. It <em>does not matter</em> if someone illegally present in the United States never committed a single crime (even speeding) or if he murdered a hooker. It does not matter if he has been overstaying his visa and paying taxes peacefully for 27 years or snuck over the border last week. It does not matter if he is a family man or an identity thief (<a href="https://x.com/charlescwcooke/status/1993142711407301111">or both</a>). It does not matter if he was brought here at age 4 and has faithfully attended every check-in, or if he was applying for a green card and on the verge of getting one.</p><p>ICE generally makes the worst people its <em>highest</em> priority, but that doesn&#8217;t mean it ignores everyone else. Indeed, generally speaking, when ICE chases down a convicted rapist illegally in the United States, it finds a number of other people in the process&#8212;often people whose only crime is entering the country illegally.</p><h2>Q: Wait, is entering the country illegally a crime? I thought it was just a civil offense, like a traffic ticket.</h2><p>Illegal entry into the United States is a federal offense under <a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325">8 USC 1325</a>, carrying a maximum prison sentence of up to six months on the first offense (higher on subsequent offenses). That makes it a Class B misdemeanor (<a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3559">18 USC 3559</a>), which means it is alternatively punishable by a fine of up to $5,000 <em>plus</em> an additional civil penalty of up to $250. That&#8217;s quite a bit more than my worst traffic ticket.</p><p>ICE frequently declines to prosecute suspects under this statute, because it is a criminal charge that requires a jury trial, proof beyond a reasonable doubt, and all the bells and whistles. It&#8217;s much easier (and cheaper) to just send them home. Basically, ICE is willing to pretend a foreigner ended up in America by some elaborate and hilarious mistake (&#8220;Whoopsie! Musta takin&#8217; a wrong turn at Albuquerque!&#8221;), because ICE thinks it&#8217;s better to just send people home instead of punishing them <em>plus</em> sending them home.</p><p>That last part seems to be where people get the idea that it&#8217;s all just a civil offense. ICE frequently shuts its eyes to the criminal offense because it&#8217;s too much of a bother. Illegal entry is a civil offense only as an act of mercy.</p><p>Even then, the U.S. prosecutes this crime <a href="https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/department-justice-prosecuted-record-breaking-number-immigration-related-cases-fiscal-year">tens of thousands of times</a> every year.</p><p>(That said, worth noting: overstaying a visa is <em>not</em> a crime. However, ICE can still remove anyone who overstays a visa from the country.)</p><h2>Q: How can ICE be so heartless?</h2><p>ICE didn&#8217;t get a vote. We did.</p><p>What I just described are the immigration laws of the United States. Our Congressmen wrote and passed them. We, the People voted for those Congressmen. ICE merely carries out our will under the Constitution. That&#8217;s what it means to have a rule of law in a democratic republic.</p><p>Many Congressmen have made many attempts to change these laws in order to create exceptions in sympathetic cases. President George W. Bush tried this.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> Sen. Marco Rubio tried it. President Barack Obama tried it repeatedly, and became so frustrated with Congress's refusal that he created an illegal program to override federal immigration law, a <a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2012/06/16/special-comment-on-the-presidents-institution-of-the-dream-act/">desecration of democracy</a> that led directly to President Trump's alarming ability to <em>also</em> urinate over whatever Congress tells him to do.</p><p>Every time a party tries to liberalize American immigration law, it is punished severely at the ballot box. Bush&#8217;s legacy was Obama. Obama&#8217;s legacy was Trump. Even within the Democratic Party, Joe Biden defeated many immigration reformists in the 2020 primary, in part, by trying to be basically normal on immigration&#8230; then lost the 2024 election pretty specifically by <em>not</em> being normal on immigration. The American people have consistently and repeatedly expressed their strong view that people have to come into our country &#8220;the right way&#8221; in order to be allowed to stay in it.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a></p><p>If you don't like that, I understand! I am the great-great-grandson of an immigrant, the superb Kate Durkin. She was considered <em>very</em> undesirable (because Irish), but she was admitted anyway because, in the 19th century, the United States had open borders. Anyone who wanted to come here could come here! I am here because of that generous policy!<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a></p><p>However, if you don't like these laws, your beef is not with ICE, but with clear and durable bipartisan majorities of the American people. I am not writing this article because I think U.S. immigration law strikes the correct balance between protection and generosity. I may write about that separately, but I am writing this, today, because I&#8217;m seeing so many nuclear-overheated takes treating ICE as some kind of lawless rogue secret police re-invented by the second Trump Administration to commit mass racisms, including from people who ought to know better.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aIrX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe7d9e550-1fd2-4d58-ba37-1e0026991a95_392x520.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aIrX!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe7d9e550-1fd2-4d58-ba37-1e0026991a95_392x520.png 424w, 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Until then, however, ICE is carrying out the Constitutional mandate. The White House <em>must</em> &#8220;take care that all the laws be faithfully executed.&#8221; </p><p>The scandal is not that this White House is following that oath at last; the scandal is that so many previous White Houses aggressively undermined it; the scandal is also that <em>this</em> White House so frequently <a href="https://www.factcheck.org/2025/12/examining-trumps-pardon-of-former-honduran-president-convicted-of-trafficking-drugs-to-u-s/">undermine</a>s the rule of law in <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/roundup-mnscotus-disqualification">other contexts</a>. We should damn the White House for that hypocrisy, but not for finally deigning to enforce the law. You cannot object to the Trump Administration on rule-of-law grounds<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> <em>and</em> broadly oppose ICE enforcing the rule of law.</p><p>What ICE is doing right now is what every American president swears to do, in a solemn oath made before the entire country and before God.</p><p>There are many people who do not acknowledge this. (Many of them are on Reddit and mad at me.) This faction insists on characterizing ICE arrests as &#8220;kidnappings&#8221; and hype every justified use of force as a crime against humanity. These people reliably have <em>no interest</em> in the due process violations they allege. They think the immigration law the American people have created is fundamentally unjust and want it cancelled immediately, but they know that position is very unpopular, so they grasp whatever thin reed they can find and start hammering ICE with it. When you show all the holes in their evidence, they don&#8217;t acknowledge it, they don&#8217;t update their opinions, they just move on to a new argument. When they run out of arguments, they call you names and say, &#8220;Imagine thinking [very normal thing] is normal.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a></p><p>I mention these people because they are very, very loud right now, a lot of people are listening to them, and you should <em>not</em> listen to them, because they are actively trying to deceive you.</p><h2>Q: Wow. Oof. Alright. What happens once someone is in removal proceedings?</h2><p>In a removal proceeding, the individual is brought, &#8220;<a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1357">without unnecessary delay</a>,&#8221; before a federal official called an &#8220;immigration judge&#8221; (not a real judge) whose job is to hear ICE&#8217;s evidence, the suspect&#8217;s defense, and issue a ruling. ICE can arrest and initiate removal proceedings with relatively little evidence (probable cause), but, by this hearing stage, ICE must show proof (clear and convincing evidence) that the individual is not legally present in the United States.</p><p>If this federal official agrees with ICE, he issues an order of removal. The suspect may appeal this decision until it gets to a real judge, and can potentially go all the way to the Supreme Court. Once appeals are exhausted, the order becomes final and ICE may return the individual to his nation of citizenship, or to another nation that agrees to take him.</p><h2>Q: Are people in removal proceedings allowed to live normal lives while they await a verdict?</h2><p>ICE has the option to detain someone in removal proceedings, or to release them on bond or parole to lead normal lives. In most cases, this is purely at the White House&#8217;s discretion (<a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1226">8 USC 1226</a>), and Congress explicitly gave ICE the power to revoke bond or parole, at any time, for any reason.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a></p><p>For much of ICE&#8217;s history, it has been pretty generous about granting bond. In the absence of aggravating circumstances, ICE has ordinarily granted bond to anyone who isn&#8217;t a flight risk or a danger to the community. However, several things changed in recent decades, which rendered that system non-functional:</p><p><em><strong>FIRST</strong></em>: the number of people unlawfully present in the United States exploded, overwhelming the system. According to Brianna Nofil&#8217;s very anti-enforcement book, <em>The Migrant&#8217;s Jail, </em>immigration detention rose by a factor of ten between the Immigration &amp; Naturalization Act&#8217;s passage in 1952 and the early 2020s. (It <a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ice-threatens-family-separation-indefinite-detention-satisfy-trump-deportation-2025-12-11/">doubled again</a> in 2025 alone.) Over the same seven decades, the U.S. population only doubled once. Removal proceedings that once might have taken weeks can now take years to move from initial arrest to actual deportation.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a></p><p>It&#8217;s one thing for someone unlawfully present to &#8220;build a life here&#8221; for a few months. It&#8217;s quite another for him to spend a decade, marrying, having children, and the like. When his final order of removal <em>inevitably</em> arrives, it&#8217;s going to do a great deal more damage to a whole lot more people.</p><p><em><strong>SECOND</strong>:</em> our limited capacity for processing immigration cases depends on many people caught unlawfully in the United States not fighting it. Instead, they can voluntarily get on a plane and go home. After all, that&#8217;s the honorable thing to do. You get caught breaking the law, you ought to admit you broke the law, stop breaking the law, and be grateful you aren&#8217;t being prosecuted as a criminal.</p><p>However, the possibility of being able to stay in the United States indefinitely seems to have created a different calculus, at least for many people. A large share of people illegally present, who <em>know</em> they are illegally present, now decide to fight their cases in court. This is expensive, but it keeps them in the U.S.A. for years at a time. This makes the already-long backlog even longer, creating even stronger incentives to fight cases and delay removal&#8212;a vicious cycle.</p><p><em><strong>THIRD</strong>: </em>The U.S. has generous asylum laws (which is good!) that promise individualized review to each person applying for asylum here. This is a slow, expensive process. It was designed to help relatively small numbers of people escape political and religious persecution, like the Jews fleeing Hitler (whom we turned away at the border under our old laws). Today, however, advocates for those accused of unlawful presence have learned that making an asylum claim, even a very weak one, can extend the process for years. Meanwhile, the claimant would get released into the U.S. mainland to start a life here in the Land of the Free until his distant court date. <a href="https://ohss.dhs.gov/topics/immigration/asylees/annual-flow-report">Asylum requests</a> were under 100,000/year during the early 2000s. They surged to about 350,000/year in 2016, then skyrocketed when President Biden was elected and instituted more generous asylum rules. In 2023, there were well over a million new applicants for asylum (across some 800,000 separate claims). The system was not capable of handling this flood of claims, so everything slowed down more&#8230; and anyone who could get into the country now could stay even longer, even if they knew they had no right to be here, even if they got caught.</p><p><em><strong>FOURTH</strong>:</em> Someone caught by ICE who then voluntarily agrees to leave the country (without forcing ICE to go through the full legal process) is usually barred from re-entering the country for ten years. This creates a strong perverse incentive: if someone is caught and fights their case, they can continue to live in the U.S. and pursue alternative means of legal immigration in the meantime. If they agree to leave, they not only lose whatever life they&#8217;ve built here; they are <em>also</em> cut off from any hope of restoring it for at least a decade! Our legal immigration system is <em>extremely</em> slow, so sending these people to the back of the line may keep them out of the U.S. until they are elderly. You might say, fair enough, they broke the law&#8212;but, obviously, that risk pressures a lot of people into fighting their cases who might otherwise have given in and gone home voluntarily.</p><p>Much of what is crushing the immigration system, then, stems from the strong incentives we created for people not legally present to stay here and continue living their lives while fighting their (often hopeless) cases in immigration court for years and years. One of the striking things about the Kilmar Abrego Garcia case was its protracted timeline: he entered the country illegally in 2012, he received a final order of deportation in 2019,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a> and then&#8230; nothing happened until 2025! He just kept living his life! This seems to happen a lot in our immigration system. </p><p>When you know you&#8217;re legally in the wrong, fighting it is an abuse of the system, but you can understand why people do it anyway.</p><p>In this context, ICE has made the obvious move: it has changed its policies to make abusing the system less attractive. </p><p>This began under the late Biden Administration, when President Biden curtailed asylum claims and made it harder for asylum seekers to enter the U.S. while their cases were pending. It continued under Mr. Trump. ICE is now largely putting people in immigration detention to await their hearing dates instead of allowing them out on bail. It is routinely revoking existing bail and parole. This preserves the due process rights of every single person accused of illegal presence in the U.S., while making it much less tempting to abuse that system. Abuse no longer gets you years of freedom in the U.S. mainland; it only gets you a cell in a detention facility while you await your court date. </p><p>I think pretty much everyone will agree this is unfortunate. There are a lot of sympathetic immigrants, even those with no legitimate legal claim, and it is kind to be generous with them. If this new approach works, and people without a legal right to be here stop flooding the system with doomed cases, we can hope that ICE will, in the future, find itself in a position where it can return to its prior approach.</p><p>&#8230;Or the American people will sour on detention altogether, elect new leaders with new policies, and end most immigration detention. However, the consequences of that choice are obvious. Indeed, we already saw the consequences during the Biden Administration! The American people probably have to decide whether they prefer immigration detention or very large waves of illegal immigration. While alternatives are available,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a> few are politically plausible.</p><h2>Q: But I know people who are stuck in immigration detention even though they had legal status?</h2><p>In every single case I have encountered where someone made this claim, the detained person did not actually have &#8220;legal status&#8221; (i.e. the right to be in the country).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a> They were instead enrolled in a bail or parole program, such as Alternatives to Detention (AtD) or Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA), which was either revoked or which provided no shield against immigration detention and removal in the first place. In some cases, they even had a final order of removal already, but the Biden Administration had placed them in AtD anyway, because President Biden simply didn&#8217;t want to remove them, even though the law demanded it.</p><p>Maybe the person you know is an exception! Maybe your neighbor really had some legal shield against ICE&#8217;s discretionary detention power and ICE ignored it! I don&#8217;t know. I don&#8217;t know you or your neighbor or the facts of his case. All I can say is that I haven&#8217;t seen that yet.</p><h2>Q: Can ICE arrest anyone else?</h2><p>Congress has granted ICE broad authority to arrest people, including citizens, if ICE has probable cause to believe they have committed other crimes, especially crimes committed in the presence of ICE officers. (<a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1357">8 USC 1357</a>(5))</p><p>This is not an unusual power. Many law enforcement agencies can arrest someone, even without a warrant, especially when that person commits a crime in their presence. Of course, they still have to make a probable-cause showing to a judge within a couple of days, at most. This creates a ton of drama in police procedurals: &#8220;I know you think he&#8217;ll kill again, Higgins, but if you can&#8217;t convince a judge he&#8217;s the murderer in the next sixteen hours, the chief says we have to cut him loose!&#8221; </p><p>When ICE arrests a person for a non-immigration crime, those rules apply. They must have probable cause at the arrest. They must show that cause to a judge to continue holding that person for more than a very short while. They must find another law enforcement agency willing to deal with it and turn the person over to them, because ICE is only equipped to prosecute immigration violations. The accused must be convicted by a jury of her peers with proof beyond a reasonable doubt in order to be punished.</p><p>Federal law <a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/111">declares</a>, &#8220;Whoever forcibly assaults, resists, opposes, impedes, intimidates, or interferes with&#8221; any federal agent in the performance of his duties has committed a crime, with a prison sentence of up to a year. This means ICE agents can arrest someone they believe, on probable cause, is impeding or intimidating their officers on the job. </p><p>On the other hand, if ICE can&#8217;t find another agency willing to take on the case, or if the evidence isn&#8217;t clear-cut and proved beyond a reasonable doubt, or if they just have too much else going on that day&#8230; ICE will often find itself in the position of releasing people they just arrested, even when it is fairly clear that those people committed federal crimes. ProPublica collects <a href="https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-citizens-arrested-detained-against-will?utm_source=chatgpt.com">130 such cases</a>, but, in typically <a href="https://nrlc.org/nrlnewstoday/2024/09/media-mislead-on-tragic-death-of-amber-thurman/">dishonest</a> ProPublica <a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/propublica-cherry-picks-ethics-experts-on-justice-thomass-alleged-disclosure-obligation/">fashion</a>, breathlessly reports the fact as a scandal proving some sort of malfeasance by ICE, rather than a lot of mostly-guilty people getting off the hook because evidence was inadequate.</p><h2>Q: Aren&#8217;t people in ICE custody routinely &#8220;disappeared&#8221;?</h2><p>No. Like most (not all) law enforcement agencies in the modern era, ICE has a detainee registry and <a href="https://locator.ice.gov/odls/#/search">an online portal</a> where you can search for them. They have a website <a href="https://www.ice.gov/detain/detention-facilities/central-louisiana-ipc">listing their locations</a> and describing visiting hours, lawyer hours, and ways to send gifts to detainees. </p><p>Also, of course, <em>unlike</em> most prisoners, people detained for immigration violations usually have the option to leave, in fairly short order, by accepting voluntary departure to their home country.</p><p>Like any real-world detainee tracking system, ICE&#8217;s detention records have hiccups and oversights. For example, Florida&#8217;s &#8220;Alligator Alcatraz&#8221; was a state system, not integrated with the federal system, and so detainee tracking there was, by all accounts, horrendous. However, as in any real-world detainee tracking system, these problems appear to be the exception, not the rule.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a></p><p>Moreover, I suspect conditions in immigration detention are little better than conditions in U.S. prisons. It has been related to me by people I trust that the condition of U.S. prisons is miserable and unfair. This is a legitimate concern, to say the least.</p><p>However, to be &#8220;<a href="https://docs.un.org/en/A/HRC/16/48/Add.3">disappeared</a>&#8221; is to be pulled into a gulag archipelago and/or summarily executed with no opportunity to make your case to a judge or jury, no access to legal representation, and no real contact with the outside world, with friends and families <em>deliberately</em> kept in the dark about your whereabouts for an extended period of time. (You certainly can&#8217;t just leave!) ICE arrests do not remotely resemble that.</p><p>(However, see below for a discussion of the White House&#8217;s invocation of the Alien Enemies Act, which <em>did</em> resemble that.)</p><h2>Q: But sometimes ICE takes people in unmarked vans wearing unmarked uniforms!</h2><p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I don&#8217;t think this is a good policy. Eventually, someone getting arrested for an immigration violation is going to <em>legitimately believe</em> she is being abducted by a cartel, she is going to be armed, she is going to pull out a gun, and people are going to end up dead. If this happens (and, if the unmarked-everything policy continues, I&#8217;m confident it will), those deaths will be entirely ICE&#8217;s fault, not the person they were trying to arrest.</p><p>However, this is not a &#8220;disappearance.&#8221; People arrested in this way show up on the detention tracker in 48 hours like always. There&#8217;s rarely any genuine ambiguity about who is doing the arresting or why. Plainclothes detectives have been doing this for years.</p><p>On top of that, it seems to be pretty rare. Every ICE interaction I&#8217;ve seen in the Twin Cities involved officers with ICE/ERO/Police clearly labeled on their obvious police vests, back and front. Perhaps ICE reached the same conclusion I did, and stopped doing the stupid &#8220;unmarked&#8221; thing?</p><h2>Q: Is ICE grabbing people off the street just because they look Black or Hispanic?</h2><p>It certainly doesn&#8217;t look like it. </p><p>In July 2025,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a> during street arrests and similar activities, ICE arrested <a href="https://deportationdata.org/">some 4,494 persons</a> who had no criminal record and no final order of deportation. If ICE were just arresting people who looked different, this is the statistic that would show it. The <em>vast</em> majority of Black people (<a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2022/01/20/one-in-ten-black-people-living-in-the-u-s-are-immigrants/">96%</a>) and Hispanic people (<a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/10/22/key-facts-about-us-latinos/#most-latinos-are-u-s-citizens">79%</a>) in this country are citizens, so, if a government dragnet arrests a bunch of Hispanic people just for their skin color, we would expect about four out of five of them to turn out to be U.S. citizens. The ratio would be even higher in this dataset, because we&#8217;re already excluding people with final orders of deportation.</p><p>Of the 4,494 immigration suspects arrested in July, 209 have been released (&lt;5%). 30 won their cases and received some form of formal relief. The others were released without much detail, but it seems safe to assume that ICE realized that they were likely to win relief in some form and pre-emptively granted it themselves. Zero&#8212;I repeat, <em>zero</em>&#8212;of those arrested were U.S. citizens.</p><p>I don&#8217;t doubt that there are racists in ICE ranks. There are racists everywhere, and it doesn&#8217;t take a genius to see why racists might disproportionately flock to join the ranks of Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Nevertheless, ICE policy appears to be constraining them, at least as far as arrests go.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-14" href="#footnote-14" target="_self">14</a></p><p>ICE&#8217;s policy, which it recently defended in the Supreme Court (more on that below), is that no one can be lawfully taken into custody, or even questioned, on the basis of skin color. Skin color (or ethnicity) is never a sufficient basis for probable cause, or even reasonable suspicion.</p><h2>Q: But I read a <a href="https://www.cato.org/blog/1/5-ice-arrests-are-latinos-streets-no-criminal-past-or-removal-order">Cato Institute study</a> that said 1 in 5 ICE arrests are random completely innocent Latinos on the street!</h2><p>That is certainly how <a href="https://www.cato.org/blog/1/5-ice-arrests-are-latinos-streets-no-criminal-past-or-removal-order">that study&#8217;s findings</a> have been communicated, and I am quite confident that the Cato Institute <em>intended</em> their findings to be miscommunicated in precisely that way. They knew what they were doing.</p><p>However, you now know enough about federal immigration law to see the sleight of hand in their headline. What they actually wrote was, &#8220;One in Five ICE Arrests Are Latinos on the Streets with No Criminal Past or Removal Order.&#8221; See it?</p><p>That&#8217;s right: <em>many</em> people with no criminal convictions or a final order of removal still lack a legal right to be in this country, and the law therefore instructs ICE to apprehend them and remove them from this country. They are not citizens. They are not even innocent. Aside from those brought here as children, they chose to enter this country unlawfully. As we saw above, ICE is finding them pretty reliably, with few false positives.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-15" href="#footnote-15" target="_self">15</a></p><h2>Q: Whom can ICE question?</h2><p>As federal law enforcement officials, ICE agents have the power to detain individuals briefly for <em>questioning</em> if they have <em>reasonable suspicion</em> that that person has violated U.S. immigration law, or is involved with a violation of U.S. immigration law by another person. These brief detainments typically last just a few minutes, but may last a little longer. During questioning, ICE may not conduct a search without consent (unless the answers give them probable cause). This is similar to a police officer&#8217;s authority to pull you over and ask you questions and frisk you if you are driving a vehicle in an area where an armed criminal recently fled in a car of similar color. This is not a violation of your constitutional rights, even if the officer is completely mistaken about the color. </p><p>These short detentions are sometimes referred to as &#8220;<em>Terry </em>stops,&#8221; named for a 1964 Supreme Court case that established their legality. In that case, an Ohio police officer saw three men walking back and forth in strange patterns in front of a store. He thought they were casing the joint, so he stopped them, frisked them, found several illegal weapons, and arrested them.</p><p>To dispel all doubt about ICE&#8217;s authority in these matters, Congress has <a href="https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1357">explicitly</a> granted ICE the authority to &#8220;interrogate any alien or person believed to be an alien as to his right to be or to remain in the United States.&#8221; This belief must be grounded in some reasonable, articulable facts (more than a hunch), but almost necessarily falls far short of proof, or even hard evidence.</p><p>However, &#8220;the dude looked Hispanic&#8221; is not enough to justify questioning someone. Race alone is <em>never</em> sufficient to meet even the low bar of reasonable suspicion.</p><h2>Q: Hang on, didn&#8217;t the Supreme Court just say ICE could question people based on skin color?</h2><p>Again: that&#8217;s how the case <em>Noem v. Vasquez Perdomo</em> was reported, because our media&#8217;s strategy for reporting Supreme Court cases is (and always has been) to read only the lead opinion by a progressive justice and then report everything in that opinion it as absolute fact. However, that&#8217;s not what the case held. Some legal history:</p><p>In the 1975 case <em><a href="https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/usrep/usrep422/usrep422873/usrep422873.pdf">United States v. Brignoni-Ponce</a>, </em>a Border Patrol agent in Southern California pulled over a car for suspected illegal immigration and searched the vehicle. Both passengers had indeed entered the country illegally (and were arrested), and the driver was arrested for knowingly transporting such persons. However, there was a problem: the agents had pulled the car over in the first place <em>solely</em> because the people in it looked Mexican. The Border Patrol admitted this. It was pure racial profiling.</p><p>The Supreme Court ruled 9-0 that this was an unreasonable search which violated the Fourth Amendment, because pulling someone over requires at least a &#8220;reasonable suspicion&#8221; grounded in &#8220;articulable facts.&#8221; The unanimous court explained that race can only legitimately be <em>one factor</em> in establishing reasonable suspicion. For example, if a car filled with people who appear to be from Mexico, of a make and model typically used to transport people over the border, is spotted late at night, near the border, that is enough to establish reasonable suspicion. However, race cannot ever, by itself, establish reasonable suspicion. In the words of the majority (which was 8-1, Douglas dissenting, on this point):</p><blockquote><p>The likelihood that any given person of Mexican ancestry is an alien is high enough to make Mexican appearance a relevant factor, but standing alone it does not justify stopping all Mexican-Americans to ask if they are aliens.</p></blockquote><p>This year, in the <em>Noem</em> case, ICE was questioning people (not arresting them) based on <em>a combination</em> of the following four factors:</p><ol><li><p>the types of job they worked (people unlawfully present disproportionately work in certain kinds of jobs)</p></li><li><p>presence at particular locations (people unlawfully present are disproportionately found at certain places, like car washes and construction sites)</p></li><li><p>language and accent (people unlawfully present disproportionately speak languages other than English, or speak English with a heavy accent)</p></li><li><p>apparent race or ethnicity.</p></li></ol><p>ICE policy was and is that some of these things <em>in combination</em> can form the basis for reasonable suspicion to make a <em>Terry</em> stop and ask a few questions. (In particular, race by itself could never justify questioning.) This policy appears to fit squarely within the four corners of <em>Brignoni-Ponce</em>, a fifty-year old precedent. An L.A. district judge, however, <a href="https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-dis-crt-cd-cal/117475603.html">ruled</a><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-16" href="#footnote-16" target="_self">16</a> that it did not. She ruled that ICE could not use <em>any</em> of the four factors, by themselves <em>or in combination</em>, to establish reasonable suspicion.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-17" href="#footnote-17" target="_self">17</a> Frimpong&#8217;s order didn&#8217;t just defy <em>Brignoni</em> by telling ICE they couldn&#8217;t consider race at all; it went further than that, and forbade ICE from even considering other, more important factors, like employment and location. Her order would have effectively shut down ICE raids. </p><p>Is ending ICE raids good policy? Perhaps. Would it be good politics for the GOP? <a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/gee-how-did-latino-americans-become-so-alienated-from-the-gop/">Looks that way.</a><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-18" href="#footnote-18" target="_self">18</a> Is it what the Fourth Amendment <em>requires</em>? Not according to <em>Brignoni-Ponce</em>, a fifty-year-old precedent. This Court <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/the-most-dangerous-time-to-be-a-supreme">rarely</a> overturns precedents, and regularly <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/132916425/d">goes out of its way</a> to avoid doing so, so it was certainly not going to blow up this one on the emergency docket. Unsurprisingly, then, the Supreme Court majority ruled that ICE could continue using the four factors, while clearly affirming, &#8220;To be clear, apparent ethnicity alone cannot furnish reasonable suspicion&#8221;.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-19" href="#footnote-19" target="_self">19</a> </p><p>Somehow, this nuanced approach to approaching suspicious-seeming individuals for brief questioning (the Supreme Court repeatedly emphasized that it must be &#8220;brief&#8221;) got transmuted in much of the press and social media into, &#8220;The Supreme Court just agreed with Trump grabbing Hispanics off the street and throwing them into a gulag just because of their skin color!&#8221; This isn&#8217;t true, and the fear it creates certainly doesn&#8217;t help Hispanic-Americans.</p><h2>Q: Why doesn&#8217;t ICE show its warrants to concerned citizens or answer their questions about an arrest?</h2><p>Generally speaking, because it violates the suspect&#8217;s right to privacy. The Privacy Act of 1974 prevents ICE from disclosing personally identifiable information to third parties, including the information that appears on an administrative warrant. There are exceptions and discretionary loopholes, but the last thing ICE wants is to lose an arrest because one of its agents inadvertently violated the suspect&#8217;s privacy rights in response to a question from a random bystander with no involvement in the matter, so it doesn&#8217;t.</p><p>Moreover, these questions and demands are usually being raised by protestors whose interest in the answer is insincere (it&#8217;s not like they&#8217;ll stop protesting even once you prove the arrest is 100% legal), so answering them is unhelpful. Almost the only thing it can do is delay and/or compromise ICE&#8217;s ability to perform its mission.</p><h2>Q: What if ICE breaks these rules?</h2><p>As the Supreme Court confirmed once again in <em>Noem</em>, anyone whose Fourth Amendment rights are violated by ICE (through wrongful arrest, excessive force, etc.) may sue the government for compensation. The Federal Torts Claims Act is available for this purpose.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-20" href="#footnote-20" target="_self">20</a></p><p>I&#8217;m not fool enough to think that every ICE agent has done everything right, and I sincerely hope anyone victimized is able to win the compensation they are owed. No law enforcement agency is ever perfect, which is precisely why we have these liability laws in the first place, both to make victims whole and to discipline any agencies tempted to go rogue.</p><h2>Q: Doesn&#8217;t ICE, unlike all other law enforcement, wear masks, like secret police?</h2><p>Hm.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TSur!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f22481d-65f8-4817-b312-504874798d8e_1024x796.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TSur!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f22481d-65f8-4817-b312-504874798d8e_1024x796.jpeg 424w, 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href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!o5Tz!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F32506838-6dd2-4142-b4eb-0dc36a5e6f8e_1000x563.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!o5Tz!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F32506838-6dd2-4142-b4eb-0dc36a5e6f8e_1000x563.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!o5Tz!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F32506838-6dd2-4142-b4eb-0dc36a5e6f8e_1000x563.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!o5Tz!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F32506838-6dd2-4142-b4eb-0dc36a5e6f8e_1000x563.png 1272w, 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[1000x563]&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="r/policeporn - Lee County, FL Sheriff Carmine Marceno gives a press conference surrounded by his deputies in full SWAT drip [1000x563]" title="r/policeporn - Lee County, FL Sheriff Carmine Marceno gives a press conference surrounded by his deputies in full SWAT drip [1000x563]" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!o5Tz!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F32506838-6dd2-4142-b4eb-0dc36a5e6f8e_1000x563.png 424w, 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SWAT team, from a <a href="https://floridapolitics.com/archives/658635-live-shows-body-cam-footage-highlight-carmine-marceno-law-enforcement-operations/">2024 livestream</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>Police forces at all levels routinely wear masks to obscure their identities (or to provide armor). They seem to do this particularly when entering situations where it might be dangerous to themselves or their families to be identified. For example, when agents go up against powerful drug cartels who can plausibly threaten their children, they seem more likely to be masked.</p><p>I think it might be a good idea to pass a statute that requires all agents to be unmasked, or at least to wear identification numbers prominently. I agree with the concern that masked law enforcement is less accountable law enforcement. </p><p>On the other hand, ICE agents in 2025 are facing <a href="https://old.reddit.com/r/ICE_Watch/">organized resistance</a> that reminds one of the &#8220;massive resistance&#8221; campaign in the South against the Civil Rights movement. There are popular phone apps dedicated to tracking ICE&#8217;s movements. There are constant attempts to &#8220;<a href="https://old.reddit.com/r/ICE_Watch/comments/1pp7q77/say_hello_to_brenden_cuni_of_new_rochelle_ny_an/">doxx</a>&#8221; ICE agents, specifically so the Internet mob can target them and their families.</p><p>Who would agree to be an ICE agent if you knew it meant protesters would follow your kids home from school chanting that they should be deported (or worse)? Charlie Kirk was murdered just a few months ago! I&#8217;m not happy ICE agents are masked, but I certainly understand why, in this climate, ICE considers it necessary to ensure the laws passed by We, the People are not subject to a heckler&#8217;s veto (or an assassin&#8217;s veto).</p><h2>Q: You say people get all these protections, but what about when the White House invoked the Alien Enemies Act?</h2><p>This was genuinely really bad. </p><p>For those who missed it, earlier this year, the White House attempted to activate the Alien Enemies Act, alleging that it permitted removal from the country without any due process due to an ongoing &#8220;invasion&#8221; by alleged gang members who entered illegally. This is not what the Constitution or the AEA means by &#8220;invasion.&#8221; (Remember that the early United States had open borders, so the Framers had no concept resembling modern &#8220;illegal immigration.&#8221;) </p><p>Many of those removed under the AEA were shipped to El Salvador, where the local dictator, President Bukele, put them in CECOT, a notorious so-called &#8220;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2025/11/venezuelan-cecot-el-salvador/685034/">torture prison</a>,&#8221; <em>at our government&#8217;s request, </em>again without any due process. The government then claimed that, since they were no longer in the country or under our jurisdiction, there was nothing any judge could do about it, nyah-nyah. One of those thus sent to CECOT was the now-famous Kilmar Abrego Garcia (although he was not removed under the Alien Enemies Act).</p><p>I <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/160878913/the-abrego-garcia-case">wrote scathingly</a> about both the Abrego Garcia case and <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/160878913/trump-v-jgg">the AEA case</a> in April. Information that has subsequently emerged about conditions at CECOT&#8230; well, let&#8217;s just say it&#8217;s not beating the &#8220;<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2025/11/venezuelan-cecot-el-salvador/685034/">torture prison</a>&#8221; allegations. This was a shameful chapter in American immigration history and a permanent stain on an already soiled Trump Administration.</p><p>However, the Administration has climbed down from the AEA in intervening months. The court system swiftly (for courts) put the kibosh on Alien Enemies Act removals. The Administration has accepted this and returned to normal legal removal processes. Abrego Garcia&#8217;s case did continue and he is currently free in the U.S., although the Trump Administration continues to pursue what seem like obviously retaliatory criminal charges against him for the crime of showing them up. (Again, this is utterly contemptible, especially since it comes from the Oval Office rather than from on-the-ground ICE agents.) Under political pressure over this lawless episode, the White House arranged a &#8220;prisoner exchange&#8221; between El Salvador and Venezuela that got hundreds of detainees out of CECOT. Of people removed from the United States, there appear to be <a href="https://english.elpais.com/international/2025-11-24/four-salvadorans-deported-by-trump-and-held-without-charges-located-in-bukeles-prisons.html">only a handful</a> remaining in the El Salvador prison system (just one in CECOT)&#8212;all of them native Salvadorans who remain imprisoned, apparently, on Bukele&#8217;s orders, not the United States&#8217;. (This obviously sucks for them, but they are citizens of El Salvador, subject to El Salvadoran law.)</p><p>It is right and just to bitterly criticize the Administration about this affair. It was clear that, as the saying goes, &#8220;the cruelty was the point&#8221;&#8212;not the law. I hope a bunch of the victims find a way to sue the United States and win cash money. It is also understandable and rational that, after such an egregious breach of the law, many people will default to never trusting the Administration or its faithfulness to the law ever again. Fair enough.</p><p>However, this whole affair involved a couple hundred cases resolved (in the main) almost six months ago. When ICE arrests your parish sacristan or your soccer coach, he&#8217;s not being sent to a foreign torture prison without due process. Donald Trump would love to be a dictator (one of many reasons I&#8217;ve never voted for him), but he isn&#8217;t.</p><h2>Q: What about Sue Tincher, the 55-year-old U.S. citizen <a href="https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/12/09/federal-agents-arrest-citizen-observer-watching-ice-north-minneapolis">held for hours</a> just for asking questions?</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DF0B!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5c9e275-d6a3-48a2-a200-1429eb3a6660_676x839.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DF0B!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5c9e275-d6a3-48a2-a200-1429eb3a6660_676x839.png 424w, 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Matt Little, who ran for Dakota County Attorney General last cycle, proved himself in that race to hold the rule of law in contempt. You should not trust him. He&#8217;s also going to be my next Congressman. Yay. Enjoy Arby&#8217;s.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Sue Tincher was not arrested for &#8220;asking questions.&#8221;</p><p>Tincher is a devoted opponent of ICE. She received an early-morning phone alert that ICE was coming for some of her neighbors (who, apparently, are not legally present in the United States). She got outside and confronted the officers as they attempted to conduct this lawful detention. Tincher asked officers whether they were ICE officers. (Their vests were clearly labeled.) Because she was too close to the action, ICE ordered her to back away. Tincher refused, apparently firmly and repeatedly. (I have no idea where Matt Little got the &#8220;seconds later&#8221; line. It&#8217;s in none of the media reports. Given that it&#8217;s Matt Little, I suspect he just made it up.)</p><p>Tincher, refusing lawful and necessary orders from law enforcement in a deliberate attempt to oppose and impede their operations, was duly arrested&#8212;an inherently forceful affair, and never a pleasant experience. She spent the whole walk to the car crying &#8220;help! help!,&#8221; apparently asking her neighbors to attack the ICE agents and free her by force. Fortunately, it was perfectly obvious that she was being arrested (not abducted), and both ICE and Tincher&#8217;s neighbors knew better than to take seriously the cries of a privileged White woman performatively getting herself arrested.</p><p>It took much of the day for Tincher&#8217;s husband to figure out where, precisely, she was being held. ICE, like many law enforcement systems, has some delay between arresting someone, booking them, and getting their location into the electronic system. A few hours later, she was released without charges.</p><p>The Department of Homeland Security claimed, in a <a href="https://www.kttc.com/2025/12/12/ice-responds-kttc-request-provides-different-perspective-minnesota-womans-detainment/">statement</a>, &#8220;Susan Tincher was arrested after she assaulted a federal agent, tried to break through a security perimeter set up for public safety, ignored lawful commands, and became violent.&#8221; I have no particular reason to believe that she became violent, but her violation of a cordon and refusal of lawful commands was sufficient to justify her arrest. As we have seen, ICE is empowered to arrest citizens (on probable cause) for impeding ICE operations. Tincher is fortunate she isn&#8217;t being prosecuted.</p><h2>Q: What about &#8220;Mubashir,&#8221; the anonymous Somali-American citizen tackled by ICE <a href="https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/12/10/ice-agents-tackle-arrest-american-citizen-in-minneapolis">for no reason</a> and detained while insisting he was a citizen?</h2><div id="youtube2-BDFfI_FBmBg" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;BDFfI_FBmBg&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/BDFfI_FBmBg?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>Mr. Mubashir was not detained &#8220;for no reason at all,&#8221; as Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey claims in this video. It was not &#8220;in clear violation of law and the Constitution of the United States,&#8221; as he goes on to claim. It does not show that &#8220;American citizens may be in the crosshairs,&#8221; as he further claims. These claims are vandalism, and Mayor Frey&#8212;not the ICE agents in the tapes&#8212;should be ashamed of himself.</p><p>Mr. Mubashir saw ICE agents when he left a local restaurant. They were questioning someone nearby whom they suspected was in the country illegally. Upon seeing the ICE agents (who were, once again, in clearly marked gear), Mr. Mubashir <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ice-operation-immigration-arrests-minnesota-rcna248609">turned </a>and <a href="https://sahanjournal.com/immigration/ice-arrest-cedar-riverside-minneapolis-somali-man/">ran</a>. (Hence the agent shouting, &#8220;Why were you running?&#8221; in the first video.)</p><p>Under every &#8220;reasonable suspicion&#8221; standard in the history of the world, &#8220;man sees cops and books it&#8221; establishes reasonable suspicion. The ICE agents duly decided to question Mr. Mubashir, so they gave chase. They caught him. It appears to be under dispute whether and to what extent Mr. Mubashir resisted arrest between his capture and ICE&#8217;s car. <em>At this point</em>, Mr. Mubashir began loudly insisting that he was an American citizen. By this point, however, a hostile, threatening crowd had surrounded the two ICE agents on the scene, and they decided (reasonably, in my view) remove themselves and their suspect to a safe location to check his ID. When they arrived at ICE&#8217;s local facility, they duly checked his ID, verified his citizenship, and immediately released him. Mr. Mubashir requested a ride back to where he had been (six miles away). </p><p>ICE declined. That&#8217;s the part of this story where I think it would have been good for ICE to do other than it did. Beyond the fact that it would have been courteous of them to give him a ride, I can see Mr. Mubashir arguing, plausibly it seems to me, that, although his detention for questioning was obviously legal under the reasonable suspicion standard, ICE taking him six miles from his location and refusing to return him constituted an arrest, which requires probable cause, which ICE does not appear to have had.</p><p>You may be wondering why Mr. Mubashir ran, since he was a citizen, had done nothing wrong, and had nothing to fear from ICE. That means you have not spent enough time in anti-ICE groups online, where anti-ICE activists <a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFL1xOXxESW/">routinely circulate messages</a> advising citizens to &#8220;disrupt&#8221; ICE by pretending to be illegally present, drawing ICE&#8217;s attention, and pulling them away from whatever it was they were doing&#8230; then playing the victim card as hard as possible when ICE pursues. Mr. Mubashir followed the playbook perfectly. No word on whether the person ICE was originally questioning got away, but it seems like a good bet that he did. I suspect, but obviously cannot prove (and, of course, I could be wrong!), that Mr. Mubashir has just gotten away with deliberate interference with federal agents&#8212;and even gotten a platform out of it, thanks to a willfully gullible media eager to join the fantasy that ICE is the <em>Gestapo</em> as long as it hurts Trump.</p><h2>Q: And the pregnant woman they <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBhrQ1fgMGo">dragged through the snow</a>?</h2><p>See, you&#8217;re still falling for the frame these people want you to use. <em>Who told you she&#8217;s pregnant?</em> </p><p>Should you trust those people? Could ICE have reasonably believed or confirmed the claim, in that moment, while <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yOJ2-3divU">actively being attacked</a> by the same angry mob that was claiming a pregnancy? You should put a real big asterisk next to &#8220;pregnant&#8221; until she has been named and her pregnancy reputably confirmed. You will know your critical reading glasses are on when you don&#8217;t need me to tell you that.</p><p>Anyway, ICE was attempting to make an arrest. They used the minimal necessary force to bring it about, despite the threatening, violent atmosphere the mob had created. That is what the law allows and requires. If that woman is pregnant, she apparently cared more about making a spectacle than protecting her baby. All she needed to do was go quietly, as anyone (guilty or innocent) should do when arrested by law enforcement.</p><p>Of course, the baby himself is completely innocent, and that does pose a dilemma for the agents here. They are responsible for arresting the woman. They also cannot set a precedent where every woman becomes instantly un-arrestable as soon as someone in an onlooking mob shouts &#8220;she&#8217;s pregnant!&#8221; Yet they are also responsible for the safety of the baby! There&#8217;s no winning here. Personally, if I thought the claims of her pregnancy were at all credible in the moment, I would have erred on the side of the baby. However, without seeing her more clearly, I don&#8217;t know how to assess that. It was an awful situation created by, first, the woman herself and, second, by the mob, but that doesn&#8217;t absolve ICE if there is a baby and the baby is harmed.</p><h2>Q: Can&#8217;t you see that this isn&#8217;t about the rule of law for this Administration? Aren&#8217;t you Catholic? Can&#8217;t you read the statement of <a href="https://www.usccb.org/news/2025/us-bishops-issue-special-message-immigration-plenary-assembly-baltimore">your own bishops</a> and stop law-washing a campaign of scapegoating that revels in its own cruelty?</h2><p>This is a really good question, because&#8212;unlike most of the pointed questions we&#8217;ve looked at today&#8212;this one is coming from a true premise: it <em>isn&#8217;t</em> about the rule of law for this Administration. The White House <em>is</em> scapegoating people not lawfully present here, and it relishes the opportunity to be needlessly cruel. </p><p>The Alien Enemies Act fiasco, discussed above, was hardly the most egregious example. There were trump&#8217;s comments on Somalians: &#8220;[Minnesota is] a hellhole right now. The Somalians should be out of here. They&#8217;ve destroyed our country. And all they do is complain, complain, complain.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-21" href="#footnote-21" target="_self">21</a> There was the terrorization of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detention_of_R%C3%BCmeysa_%C3%96zt%C3%BCrk">R&#252;meysa &#214;zt&#252;rk</a>, who was sold to us as a Hamas supporter to legally justify her removal, but who turned out to just be a standard anti-Zionist dope. </p><p>The one that really, really stuck in my mind, though, was the &#8220;<a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/18/white-house-x-immigrants-deportation-shackles-asmr-video.html">deportation ASMR</a>&#8221; video. It made the least practical difference, but that somehow made it worse; the White House was just openly celebrating the suffering of people on what&#8217;s probably worst day of their lives, for no other reason than hate. Some were hardened criminals, some were just family men with no legal right to be here, but <em>none</em> deserved that cruel relish. The people in this White House are bad.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-22" href="#footnote-22" target="_self">22</a></p><p>My view, then, is not that the White House is doing good stuff with the ICE deployment to the Twin Cities and that we should be delighted about it. My view is simply that it&#8217;s Not-<em>That-</em>Bad&#8482;:</p><blockquote><p>The rules of this game are simple: President Trump implements a bad policy, makes a bad decision, or says a bad thing, which is worthy of condemnation. The Cathedral reacts by describing that policy, decision, or quote in apocalyptic terms, becomes hysterical, and then questions not the <em>wisdom</em> of the policy but its very <em>legitimacy&#8211;</em>its legality, its authority, and its membership in the set of things that may be reasonably discussed by reasonable people. In most cases, this overreaction is (in my opinion as a hardcore Rule-of-Law guy) more dangerous to the American system of government than the actual bad things Trump is doing. So then I need to stand up and say, &#8220;Hey, guys, it&#8217;s Not <em>That</em> Bad,&#8221; explain why it&#8217;s Not <em>That</em> Bad, and then remember to still mention somewhere that it&#8217;s still <em>bad</em>.</p></blockquote><p>I wrote that <a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2017/02/07/betsy-devos-is-not-the-schoolpocalypse/">in early 2017</a>. It&#8217;s nearly 2026. Please, please can we stop playing this game.</p><p>We might follow the U.S. bishops&#8217; example. I think the <a href="https://www.usccb.org/news/2025/us-bishops-issue-special-message-immigration-plenary-assembly-baltimore">bishops&#8217; statement</a> is very good:</p><blockquote><p>We are disturbed when we see among our people a climate of fear and anxiety around questions of profiling and immigration enforcement. We are saddened by the state of contemporary debate and the vilification of immigrants. We are concerned about the conditions in detention centers and the lack of access to pastoral care. We lament that some immigrants in the United States have arbitrarily lost their legal status. We are troubled by threats against the sanctity of houses of worship and the special nature of hospitals and schools. We are grieved when we meet parents who fear being detained when taking their children to school and when we try to console family members who have already been separated from their loved ones.</p></blockquote><p>The bishops are right to remind us of the inherent dignity of every immigrant, even those who enter illegally, and the necessity of treating them with kindness and discretion, indeed to honor their suffering, <em>even when we are removing them</em>. The other matters of concern they raise are all very reasonable concerns, some urgent. I think they are right, too, that American law does not currently strike the correct balance on immigration, and they are therefore right to continue lobbying Congress for reform.</p><p>However, try to imagine a different presidential administration. Imagine someone with the public persona of, say, Mitt Romney or Barack Obama,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-23" href="#footnote-23" target="_self">23</a> who is genuinely devoted to his Oath of Office and the rule of law. What would this kinder, gentler, law-abiding administration do?</p><p>Well, it would enforce our immigration laws, since Congress passed them and the President swears to &#8220;take care that the laws be faithfully executed.&#8221; It would deploy ICE agents to cities around the country to pursue the most dangerous people illegally present in the country&#8230; and, in the process, it would sweep up many, many more, and put them all in removal proceedings. It would send agents to locations where people illegally present are known to congregate, and ask them questions. Those agents would pursue people who ran from them, and arrest people who interfered with them. They would use no more than necessary force, but that would still be plenty of force, especially if chanting mobs pursued them everywhere they went. There would be headlocks, people would be forced to the ground, pepper would be sprayed. This hypothetical administration would not honor or extend unlawful arrangements made by previous administrations, like Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) or President Biden&#8217;s <a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/biden-to-aliens-dont-break-the-law-well-do-it-for-you/">abuse</a> of the detention parole power. In the wake of recent spikes in unlawful entries, they would hire a lot more ICE agents and a lot more immigration judges, while building or renting more detention facilities.</p><p>In other words, take the most decent President, give him the job of enforcing our immigration laws) to the best of his capabilities, and what you&#8217;d end up with&#8230; looks darn similar to what&#8217;s going on in the Twin Cities today.</p><p>This ICE deployment has stirred up full-on non-cooperation from both city governments, false cries of illegality and constitutional breach, mob tactics against legitimate federal law enforcement agents, and constant online comparisons to Nazis. Violence against ICE in some other cities appears to me to be <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/the-presidents-insurrection">straightforward insurrection</a>. All this comes in response to ICE simply enforcing the law We, the People gave them, by the rulebook We, the People wrote for them.</p><p>I think this <em>mostly</em> comes from a place of good intentions, from sympathy with people in a very precarious position. The fact that those people ended up in that position because they broke the law should not erase our sympathy for them, and should actually give us occasion to consider whether we cannot be more generous with our mercy. The good intentions behind this movement make a stark contrast to &#8220;deportation ASMR.&#8221;</p><p>Nevertheless, their lawlessness (often wrapped, falsely, in the name of the law) poses a threat to our Constitution and the American system of government. It poses as a counter to Trump&#8217;s lawlessness, but it is a mirror.</p><h2>Q: Don&#8217;t you get it? You can&#8217;t stand over here nitpicking the good guys when the whole country is on fire. <em>You have to pick a side.</em></h2><p>A:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a3es!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F37d9003a-7479-4344-af4e-8db20d0dcb49_720x300.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a3es!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F37d9003a-7479-4344-af4e-8db20d0dcb49_720x300.jpeg 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>De Civitate</em> is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p><em><strong>Scheduling Notes</strong>: It would be surprising if I wrote much between now and New Year&#8217;s. Other responsibilities require my attention at this time of year, and the fact that my short pieces keep turning into long ones has only made me fall further behind. Therefore, Merry Christmas!</em></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em><strong>BONUS Q: Why are you talking so weird? This sentence is clinical, at best, stilted if we&#8217;re honest.</strong></em></p><p>I am trying to avoid charged language. The statutes generally refer to &#8220;illegal aliens&#8221; and similar terms. The Left often argue that this term &#8220;otherizes&#8221; the immigrants too much, and that we should instead emphasize their common humanity. &#8220;No human is illegal,&#8221; is a common sentiment on the Left. (It is also, strictly speaking, true, which perhaps explains its power.) Thus, I am trying to refer to them as &#8220;persons not legally present&#8221; and so forth. </p><p>I refuse to go all the way to euphemism, which is why I do not use the term &#8220;undocumented immigrant.&#8221; They aren&#8217;t undocumented. An undocumented immigrant is somebody whose green card got lost at the laundromat. <em>These</em> immigrants have immigrated illegally. Nevertheless, they are people, and I&#8217;m willing to play the language game to avoid giving unnecessary offense.</p><p>On the other banana, the usual statutory word for &#8220;kicking out somebody illegally present&#8221; is &#8220;deportation.&#8221; In this article, however, I am using &#8220;removal.&#8221; </p><p>This is due to recent debate over these terms within a (much smaller) faction of the Right, largely the Catholic Right. It comes in response to religious teaching against deportations. For example, in <em>Veritatis Splendor</em>, Pope John Paul II, citing the Second Vatican Council, wrote:</p><blockquote><p>[W]hatever is opposed to life itself, such as any type of murder, genocide, abortion, euthanasia or wilful self-destruction, whatever violates the integrity of the human person, such as mutilation, torments inflicted on body or mind, attempts to coerce the will itself; whatever insults human dignity, such as subhuman living conditions, arbitrary imprisonment, <em><strong>deportation</strong></em>, slavery, prostitution, the selling of women and children; as well as disgraceful working conditions, where men are treated as mere tools for profit, rather than as free and responsible persons; all these things and others of their like are infamies indeed. They poison human society, but they do more harm to those who practice them than those who suffer from the injury. Moreover, they are supreme dishonor to the Creator.</p></blockquote><p>Seeing &#8220;deportation&#8221; listed alongside slavery and abortion tends to take the wind out of the sails of immigration hardliners.</p><p>The Catholic Right <a href="https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/is-deportation-intrinsically-evil">responds</a> that &#8220;<em>deportationes</em>&#8221; (the Latin word used in the document and elsewhere) refers to the removal of a people from their native land, along the lines of what the Soviets did to the Chechens, the Nazis to the Jews, and the Americans to several Indian tribes. <a href="https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/illegal-immigration-and-the-morality-of-deportation">They contend</a> that what the United States is doing to persons not legally present is merely removing people from a land where they are <em>not</em> native, and so (they contend) the proper word is &#8220;removal.&#8221; That word happens to be used in plenty of U.S. law, too, so, to avoid the controversy, I am using &#8220;removal&#8221; instead of &#8220;deportation&#8221; in this article. I do not pretend nor imagine that this resolves the moral debate surrounding removal, no matter how you label it.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Full disclosure: I strongly supported President Bush&#8217;s immigration reform. However, I was 15 years old, and I am not sure how I would view the proposal today.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>An important nuance here is that Americans appear, in polling, to be willing to make certain exceptions and grant certain amnesties (for example, to &#8220;DREAMers&#8221; who were brought to the U.S. illegally as children), but only if they can be assured that the amnesty will be accompanied by sufficiently stringent enforcement to ensure that we will never find ourselves in that position again. </p><p>Put another way, polling and voting behavior suggests that Americans want the current DREAMers to stay, but not if letting them stay will encourage a second generation of DREAMers. This is rational, but terrible for those whose futures end up as bargaining chips, through no fault of their own.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Although neither Kate Durkin nor her children ever saw Ireland again, part of my family did eventually visit the branch of the family that remained in the homeland. Suffice to say that they lead a very different life from our side of the family, and I am very grateful to have been born American. I owe my life here to an open-borders policy nearly 150 years ago.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>To be clear, you should very much oppose the Trump Administration on rule-of-law grounds.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I have no problem with the people who openly argue that our immigration law is unjust and advocate, in good faith, for changing it, without raising a bunch of red herrings about ICE and due process. I&#8217;m even sympathetic! However, those people are <em>not</em> the loud ones right now.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Because someone not lawfully present in the United States has no right to walk free in the United States in the first place, detaining them while they seek that right is not considered punitive. This, when combined with Congress&#8217;s strong constitutional authority over the border and U.S. sovereignty, means immigration detention does not require a judicial warrant&#8230; at least, not as long as ICE finds probable cause for detention, the detention is temporary (even if prolonged) and not arbitrary, and the due process provided by immigration law is followed.</p><p>(This description greatly oversimplifies a complex set of legal rules and surrounding debate.)</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>To be fair, some of that is also because courts imposed needed due-process restrictions on the immigration court system. People unlawfully present today have <em>way</em> more rights than they did in 1952. This seems necessary, but it does slow the system down.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>While I&#8217;ve been working on this, <a href="https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.589189/gov.uscourts.mdd.589189.110.0_2.pdf">a judge ruled</a> that there was some kind of paperwork error in Abrego Garcia&#8217;s 2019 hearing, and no final order of removal was ever actually issued against him (even though all concerned certainly seemed to think it had). If so, that&#8217;s terrific news for Abrego Garcia! This is a technicality, but an important one, and I don&#8217;t begrudge him the win. If the order is upheld on appeal, he will now be able to legally stay in the United States while ICE is forced to start from scratch on his removal proceedings. However, all this tends to underline my point.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>One such option is mandatory E-VERIFY. First, ensure that every employer verifies that every employer verifies that every employee has a right to work in the country with a central database. Second, punish <em>the employers</em> (not the people who immigrated illegally) for hiring people they know full well don&#8217;t have the right to work here. Eliminate the illicit job market for exploitable labor and watch our immigration caseloads fall.</p><p>I&#8217;ve been banging this drum since 2005. No luck. Democrats don&#8217;t want to stop illegal immigration, and there remains a substantial portion of Business Republicans who don&#8217;t want to end a legal system that gives them access to cheap, exploitable, terrified labor, plus civil libertarians who get their backs up at anything that looks sort of like a national ID system. So, instead, we continue to swing drunkenly between open borders under Democrats and mass removals under Republicans.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8220;Legal status&#8221; is a weird term. Everyone has a legal status. The legal status of Ted Bundy is &#8220;criminal.&#8221;</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Like most similar system, it excludes minors for privacy reasons, and, like most similar systems, it has a lag time between arrest and posting in the system.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-13" href="#footnote-anchor-13" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">13</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Actually June 29 to July 28, and I&#8217;ll explain that weird window later on. (The reason is boring.)</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-14" href="#footnote-anchor-14" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">14</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Perhaps ICE&#8217;s racists are getting their jollies by aggressively questioning Hispanic citizens, detaining them right up to the edge of what&#8217;s permitted in a <em>Terry </em>stop (see next question), and then releasing them without making an arrest. This would allow ICE agents to bully Hispanics without it showing up in arrest records. However, I lack evidence to test this hypothesis, and, you must admit that it would be odd for this to be widespread when so few citizens end up actually under arrest.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-15" href="#footnote-anchor-15" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">15</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>There are other factual problems with the Cato headline. For one thing, the &#8220;one-in-five&#8221; figure is actually for all races, not just Latinos. (ICE is deporting its fair share of white people, too!) Once you factor out the non-Latinos, it&#8217;s more like one-in-six. (It&#8217;s still a large number because <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/06/12/us-unauthorized-immigrant-population-2017/">about 80%</a> of people not legally present in the U.S. are Latino, although&#8212;to repeat&#8212;the overwhelming majority of Latinos in the U.S. are citizens.) For another thing, it covers only one month&#8212;29 June to 28 July 2025. This adds to my suspicion that Cato is misleading the public on purpose.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-16" href="#footnote-anchor-16" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">16</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Citation info if you want to look up the opinion on a better service than Justia: 790 F.Supp.3d 850, United States District Court, C.D. California; 2:25-cv-05605-MEMF-SP.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-17" href="#footnote-anchor-17" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">17</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>In fairness to Judge Frimpong, she is in the Ninth Circuit, which has a number of circuit precedents which, Frimpong argues, reinterpret and substantially narrow <em>Brignoni-Ponce</em>, or at least its most natural reading. I don&#8217;t know Ninth Circuit precedents, so she may well be correct. I do not wish to impugn her unfairly as an &#8220;activist judge&#8221; when it doesn&#8217;t appear to me that she acted as one here. </p><p>However, insofar as those rulings actually <em>do</em> curtail <em>Brignoni-Ponce</em>, they were doomed to collide with the Supreme Court, because the Supreme Court is bound only by its own decisions, not by circuit precedents.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-18" href="#footnote-anchor-18" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">18</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>TBH, probably too late to undo the damage. Voter loyalty is hard-lost, but, once lost, very difficult to restore, and it looks like Latinos are turning decisively against the GOP at the moment.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-19" href="#footnote-anchor-19" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">19</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Because the case was on the emergency docket, the decision actually had no majority opinion. Emergency docket decisions are customarily decided <em>per curiam</em>. However, Justice Kavanaugh filed a concurring opinion. In these cases, the concurrence is generally understood to be broadly reflective of the majority&#8217;s views, without overcommitting most of majority to any specific positions, in case they change their minds when the actual case surfaces. I am being cautious about overinterpreting this, but I think I stand on very solid ground when I report that the Supreme Court&#8217;s majority agrees with Kavanaugh that race can never, by itself, amount to reasonable suspicion.</p><p>I also want to note for the record that I find the Sotomayor/Kagan/Jackson dissent pretty plausible. They interpret <em>Brignoni-Ponce</em> differently from Justice Kavanaugh, and their interpretation is not at all ridiculous, particularly when read in light of cases like <em>Reid v. Georgia</em> (1979). ICE may yet lose when this case arrives on the permanent docket! However, the majority&#8217;s decision more obviously preserves the <em>status quo ante</em> for Fourth Amendment law and longstanding ICE practice.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-20" href="#footnote-anchor-20" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">20</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Technically, so is a <em>Bivens</em> action, but <em>Bivens</em> is a Supreme Court case that the Supreme Court has spent several decades narrowing down as far as it can. It seems to be available basically for excessive force claims and nothing else. Of course, suing under the FTCA is <a href="https://www.acslaw.org/expertforum/when-ice-agents-break-the-law-can-victims-sue-the-supreme-court-hints-yes-will-the-eleventh-circuit-listen/">not necessarily an easy matter</a>, either.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-21" href="#footnote-anchor-21" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">21</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Seeing me complain about these quotes on my Facebook wall, a friend of mine who is supportive of Trump said that those words weren&#8217;t directed toward <em>all</em> Somalians, just Somalians who remain &#8220;loyal to Somalia&#8221; rather than to America.</p><p>I like my friend, but I think this is absurd. I know, I know, &#8220;take Trump seriously, not literally&#8221; (except when his supporters say you <em>should</em> take him literally) but look at his argument over several days!</p><blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t want them [Somalis] in our country. Their country is no good for a reason. Their country stinks, and we don&#8217;t want them in our country. &#8230;[Minnesota is] a hellhole right now. The Somalians should be out of here. They&#8217;ve destroyed our country. And all they do is complain, complain, complain. &#8230;We always take people from Somalia, places that are a disaster, right? Filthy, dirty, disgusting, ridden with crime. The only thing they&#8217;re good at is going after ships. &#8230;Why can&#8217;t we have some people from Norway, Sweden, just a few? Let us have a few from Denmark.</p></blockquote><p>This argument isn&#8217;t about loyalty! </p><p>It&#8217;s almost certain that Trump was triggered into this rant by the national news media picking up stories about the massive frauds in Minnesota, largely committed by Somalis. (Follow <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Bill Glahn&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:164121356,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:null,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;eb8bfded-c607-4e53-bd47-81ee4835f7a7&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> on this on Twitter&#8212;<a href="https://x.com/billglahn">@billglahn</a>&#8212;he&#8217;s been toiling for years and years on this and he&#8217;s not been paid nearly enough heed.) The blame for all this belongs, of course, to Gov. Tim Walz and the Minnesota DFL, who were responsible for the funds in the first place and, when it became clear they had allowed the state to get scammed, spent <em>years</em> trying to keep it from coming to light. They <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/how-the-minnesota-stalemate-ended">shut down the state legislature</a> for several weeks this past January, in large part to prevent the GOP from setting up a fraud investigation committee with a subpoena power! </p><p>Back in 2018, <a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2018/10/07/vote-pam-myhra-for-minnesota-state-auditor/">I said</a> that we should elect a state auditor who had <em>actual experience doing audits. </em>Instead the DFL ran Julie Blaha, who had never done an audit in her life. She won anyway, because the experienced auditor candidate (Pam Myhra) had the vile &#8220;(R)&#8221; next to her name. How&#8217;d that work out for us Minnesotans?</p><p>The Minnesota Republican Party, in one of its rare attacks of good sense, has spent the past several years building the case that the Democrats lost $2 billion of our money (in a state that spends just $35 billion per year).</p><p>So then Trump trundles in and says, &#8220;Nope! It&#8217;s actually because of the black people from the garbage country I hate.&#8221; Thanks, Donald. I thought for a minute the MNGOP might conceivably win its first election in twenty years&#8212;and might even deserve it. Oh well! Maybe 2030!</p><p>You may be wondering why the whole fraud story went national <em>now</em>, rather than, y&#8217;know, back when it actually happened, or&#8212;at the very least&#8212;when Tim Walz was nominated for Vice President. The whole story was already well-known in Minnesota and well-documented in the press by August 2024. How much did you hear about it during the election? What does that tell you about our media?</p><p>As far as I&#8217;m concerned, the reason it&#8217;s coming out now is simple: Tim Walz is running for re-election in the Minnesota Democratic primary, but the Minnesota Democratic Party is sick of Tim Walz. The national Democratic Party is mad at Tim Walz about losing in 2024. Knives out for Tim Walz. The fact that Donald Trump shot the MNGOP in the foot in the process was an unlooked-for bonus. The <em>instant</em> Tim Walz is defenestrated and/or wins his primary, this story will vanish like a dream. The press will never allow this story air if there is any risk at all that it might cause a Republican to win any office anywhere. Still, seeing a Democrat held accountable for something is fun while it lasts. Gov. Walz certainly deserves it.</p><p>Anyway, a few days after the fraud story went national and Mr. Trump laced into Somali-Americans, ICE was here in the Twin Cities, even though <a href="https://www.kttc.com/2025/12/04/by-numbers-minnesotas-somali-population-according-census-data/">94%</a> of Somali-Minnesotans are citizens. Many of the remainder have a visa or similar that grants them a legal right to be here, so ICE just isn&#8217;t likely to find very many people to apprehend here.</p><p>We do have ~705 Somali refugees here on Temporary Protected Status, but that&#8217;s less than 1% of the state&#8217;s Somali population. TPS was granted in 1991 and was intended to give Somalis a safe place to stay and work for two years during their country&#8217;s civil war. Unfortunately, in the intervening 35 years, that civil war has never been entirely settled (although the country has somewhat stabilized), so TPS has been renewed over and over again. Around the same time as all this, Mr. Trump announced that he is terminating Somalia&#8217;s TPS, at least in Minnesota (I don&#8217;t think he can do TPS state-by-state), but he hasn&#8217;t done it yet, and has the attention span of a gnat, so who knows? March 2026 is when it will expire, if it expires. In the meantime, I don&#8217;t think ICE can do anything to those 705 refugees, so why send them?</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-22" href="#footnote-anchor-22" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">22</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>When the White House sends it&#8217;s people, they&#8217;re not sending their best. They&#8217;re not sending you. They&#8217;re sending people that <a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5037174-these-are-the-trump-appointees-who-have-faced-legal-troubles/">have a lot of problems</a>, and they&#8217;re bringing those problems with us. They&#8217;re bringing <a href="https://www.newsweek.com/everything-pete-hegseth-said-wrote-book-interviews-alcohol-use-pledge-quit-drunk-1995945">drugs</a>. They&#8217;re bringing <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/roundup-mnscotus-disqualification">crime</a>. They&#8217;re <a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/read-donald-trumps-lewd-remarks-about-women-on-days-of-our-lives-set-2005-groping-star-a7351381.html">rapists</a>. And some, I assume, are good people.</p><p>(The fact that <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/dont-vote">their rivals are also bad</a> doesn&#8217;t change that.)</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-23" href="#footnote-anchor-23" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">23</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Not the <em>actual</em> Mitt Romney and Barack Obama, of course. Mitt is the kind of low-character scum who <a href="https://www.dailyrecord.com/story/opinion/letters/2016/04/14/gop-cheated-ron-paul/82995248/">cheats at political conventions</a> for absolutely negligible gains, and Obama knew perfectly well that &#8220;if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor&#8221; was a big ol&#8217; lie. But both characters project public personas that <em>perform</em> decency really well.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[I Am Apparently The Only Person Willing To Tell You What's Actually Wrong With This Play]]></title><description><![CDATA[Short Review | "Rollicking! A Winter Carnival Musical" at the Minnesota History Theatre]]></description><link>https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/i-am-apparently-the-only-person-willing</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/i-am-apparently-the-only-person-willing</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[James J. Heaney]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2025 17:37:08 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DACv!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9e1549f-7ac9-48f7-87c0-09addc58e7f7_1599x1035.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DACv!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9e1549f-7ac9-48f7-87c0-09addc58e7f7_1599x1035.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DACv!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9e1549f-7ac9-48f7-87c0-09addc58e7f7_1599x1035.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DACv!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9e1549f-7ac9-48f7-87c0-09addc58e7f7_1599x1035.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DACv!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9e1549f-7ac9-48f7-87c0-09addc58e7f7_1599x1035.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DACv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9e1549f-7ac9-48f7-87c0-09addc58e7f7_1599x1035.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DACv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9e1549f-7ac9-48f7-87c0-09addc58e7f7_1599x1035.jpeg" width="1456" height="942" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a9e1549f-7ac9-48f7-87c0-09addc58e7f7_1599x1035.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:942,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Old Saint Paul Minnesota Postcard - 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Not even close. Let&#8217;s list the wins: the cast is both passionate and talented. I attended on &#8220;understudies&#8221; night, with three on-stage subs and a music sub, so I don&#8217;t know who they usually have playing Vulcanus Rex, but Joshua Row<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> was a standout. He brought just the right amount of camp to a role that&#8217;s been camp since the <em>fin de si&#232;cle</em>. The bleach gnomes<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> were charming, particularly Elena Glass&#8217;s Gned. I chuckled often throughout the performance. The cast&#8217;s energy was unflagging and confident, particularly leads Roland Hawkins II and Erin Nicole Farst&#233;, which is all the more impressive when you consider the material. They made a cast of nine feel like a cast of twenty. The lighting was superlative and the puppetry delightful. The costumes were all the funnier for being historically accurate. The pop-up trivia facts were interesting.</p><p>Crucially, this musical&#8217;s music was catchy, and sometimes more than catchy. Besides, Minnesotans have a well-known weakness for songs about their homeland, which is why we are all fans of <a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WtVslvQLsrw&amp;pp=ygUaVGhlIHN3ZWV0IHBhcnQgb2YgdGhlIGNpdHk%3D">The Hold Steady</a>. Kudos to composer Keith Hovis and music director Isabella Dawis.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> I looked for the cast recording album online afterward, not <em>entirely</em> sure whether I wanted it for myself or as a top white elephant gift.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> Alas, the <em>Rollicking! </em>soundtrack is not available for streaming or purchase. (Yet?)</p><p>In fact, I spent much of the play clinging desperately to the songs like flotsam after a shipwreck, because everything that happens <em>surrounding</em> the songs is insane.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> Everyone&#8217;s talking around that, even though it is the central fact of the show. <a href="http://www.cherryandspoon.com/2025/11/rollicking-winter-carnival-musical-at.html">There </a>have <a href="https://ernestgoestothetheatre.blogspot.com/2025/12/rollicking-winter-carnival-musical.html">been</a> at <a href="https://thestagesofmn.com/2025/12/05/rollicking-a-winter-carnival-musical-adds-more-than-a-dash-of-fantasy-at-the-history-theatre/">least</a> five <a href="https://www.talkinbroadway.com/page/regional/minn/minn1434.html">reviews</a> of this <a href="https://www.historytheatre.com/sites/default/files/Rollicking_Pionneer%20Press_11.24.pdf">play</a>. Four cheerily insist that everything was basically fine. One, the <em>St. Paul Pioneer Press</em>, admits to serious problems, but isn&#8217;t honest about what they are.</p><p>I&#8217;m here to tell you what they won&#8217;t. <em>Rollicking!</em> shows that the dumbest forces in our culture are not dissolving (as is sometimes reported), but only retreating back to their incubators, ready to ride forth again when the cultural moment is right. It also offers a cautionary tale for <em>any</em> writer, because all of us have, in one form or another, faced the temptations to which <em>Rollicking!</em> succumbs.</p><p>Some background: the Winter Carnival is a 140-year-old tradition of Saint Paul, Minnesota. If you&#8217;re not from the Twin Cities, you should understand that the Carnival runs deep here. Every schoolchild knows how King Boreas, lord of Winter, establishes his throne in the ice palace of St. Paul every winter and declares a festival of skating, sledding, ice sculpting, parades, and treasure hunting&#8230; only to be driven out ten days later by Vulcanus Rex (god of fire) and his Vulcan Krewe, who melt the palace in order to villainously usher in the spring. Even those of us who rarely attend the festivities have seen the Carnival royalty, or been &#8220;attacked&#8221; by sniggering Vulcans all in red, who brand their &#8220;V&#8221; symbol on the cheeks of their victims. (There&#8217;s an expanded mythos involving King Boreas&#8217;s four sons, the princes of the winds, as well as Boreas&#8217;s beautiful queen, Aurora, not to mention the flighty scoundrel Klondike Kate&#8230; but I have a word limit.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a>)</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wW5q!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd258e20-6d90-4ab5-8142-57d3e36d0a92_612x399.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wW5q!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd258e20-6d90-4ab5-8142-57d3e36d0a92_612x399.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wW5q!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd258e20-6d90-4ab5-8142-57d3e36d0a92_612x399.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wW5q!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd258e20-6d90-4ab5-8142-57d3e36d0a92_612x399.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wW5q!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd258e20-6d90-4ab5-8142-57d3e36d0a92_612x399.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wW5q!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd258e20-6d90-4ab5-8142-57d3e36d0a92_612x399.jpeg" width="612" height="399" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/cd258e20-6d90-4ab5-8142-57d3e36d0a92_612x399.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:399,&quot;width&quot;:612,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wW5q!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd258e20-6d90-4ab5-8142-57d3e36d0a92_612x399.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wW5q!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd258e20-6d90-4ab5-8142-57d3e36d0a92_612x399.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wW5q!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd258e20-6d90-4ab5-8142-57d3e36d0a92_612x399.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wW5q!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd258e20-6d90-4ab5-8142-57d3e36d0a92_612x399.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Vulcan Krewe caught in the act, circa 1940. They <a href="https://www.vulcans.org/krewepage/2017">still</a> basically dress like this, though. In fact, I initially guessed this photo was from 1990. (Photo by Ivan Dmitri/Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)</figcaption></figure></div><p>Of course, the reality is that the Winter Carnival has always been a civic venture, put together by local businesses and St. Paul&#8217;s government to draw in tourists, make some money, and, most importantly, show up Minneapolis. The practical reality of the thing has always been <em>just</em> tawdry enough to add to, rather than detract from, the Carnival&#8217;s charm.</p><p>Finding a play in this messy, evolving, ancient tradition was always going to be a challenge. I don&#8217;t know where I&#8217;d begin, personally, to find the human story that can carry an audience through the full sweep of the Carnival&#8217;s history. However, it&#8217;s easy enough to see where this playwright,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a> in this play, went wrong.</p><p>Writing fiction is not like writing non-fiction. Non-fiction (usually) starts from a thesis, which naturally unfolds into an explanation of how you got to the thesis, which naturally expands with evidence, and maybe you tell some jokes along the way. By the time you finish expounding, you find that you&#8217;ve written a blog post, a magazine article, a <em>really long</em> blog post, or a book. It just happens. The whole outline is there in germ from the moment you grasp the thesis, and just has to be explained to your readers. Non-fiction is easy. (It&#8217;s why I write so much of it.) It&#8217;s like setting sail with a compass and a clear sky. Even if there are choppy waters, even if you have to change course, even if some of the sailwork is a bit touchy, you always know where you&#8217;re going.</p><p>Fiction is a different animal. If you start from a thesis in fiction, you&#8217;re either going to write bad, preachy fiction, or you&#8217;re going to write Larry Niven&#8217;s <em>Ringworld</em>, which is worse.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a> Every fiction starts with a billion billion possible directions, a vast teeming universe of ideas (some good, the vast majority bad). Russell T. Davies called this zone &#8220;The Maybe.&#8221; The writer has to somehow whittle the finite but overwhelming possibilities of The Maybe down to one singular choice. This is very hard, may take hours or days, and may end with the writer forced to tear up whatever progress he has heretofore made and start fresh. In the end, though, what makes him a writer is that he forces his way through The Maybe.</p><p>The writer has now written&#8230; the first line. Unfortunately, this line has opened up a billion billion <em>new</em> (and very different) possibilities, which must now be whittled, again, down to one. If he repeats the feat a thousand times, he has a script.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a> It gets a little bit easier as he progresses, as the story takes shape. Eventually, each line is only one out of a million million possibilities, rather than a billion billion&#8212;but most of them are still crap.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a> </p><p>Writing fiction, then, is not like setting sail. It is more like falling naked into a fast-moving river in a wide ravine, half-drowning, and trying to find your way to one of the few parcels of accessible shoreline, dimly seen in the distance. The writer has <em>some</em> control, but often finds himself at the mercy of the story&#8217;s current. You can try to plan a few moves ahead, predict what choices will lead to better options later, but you can&#8217;t force it, or the current will pull you under and dash you against the cliff face. It is therefore imperative that the writer enter the river with, yes, strong muscles, but, more importantly, an open mind. That doesn&#8217;t guarantee the river will carry you to a good story, but, in fiction, all you can ask for is a fighting chance.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a></p><p>That&#8217;s why it isn&#8217;t fair to call <em>Rollicking!</em> a mere mess. That gives the impression that it was just bad luck, or, at worst, unhoned craftsmanship. Stories fall victim to <em>that</em> all the time. </p><p><em>Rollicking!, </em>however, was deliberate. <em>Rollicking!</em> chose to <em>fight</em> the logic of its own story at every turn, because its author did not have an open mind. She had a checklist.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>De Civitate</em> is a reader-supported publication. 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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Two Amendments on the Senate]]></title><description><![CDATA[Some Constitutional Amendments: Let's try this again, from the top.]]></description><link>https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/two-amendments-on-the-senate</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/two-amendments-on-the-senate</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[James J. Heaney]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2025 14:01:56 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/youtube/w_728,c_limit/sw9wMH62h7I" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Many writers propose constitutional amendments in order to demonstrate their fantasy vision of the perfect regime. In <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/roundup-some-constitutional-amendments">Some Constitutional Amendments</a>, I propose <a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2021/10/01/some-principles-for-proposing-constitutional-amendments-on-ones-blog/">realistic amendments</a> to the Constitution aimed at improving the <strong>structure</strong></em> <em>of the U.S. national government, without addressing substantive issues.</em></p><div id="youtube2-sw9wMH62h7I" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;sw9wMH62h7I&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/sw9wMH62h7I?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><div class="pullquote"><p>If our system was still enlightened enough to take this problem seriously, we could probably solve it. It applies to Senates as well as Presidents.</p></div><h2>The Story So Far&#8230;</h2><p>In Part I: &#8220;<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/a-senate-if-you-can-keep-it">A Senate, If You Can Keep It</a>,&#8221; I identified the Senate&#8217;s purpose as a &#8220;control rod&#8221; regulating the untempered power of democracy in the House, gifted with distinct virtues thanks the very different character of its electorate (state legislators). I then traced the Senate&#8217;s collapse into the pathetic shell of a deliberative body it is today.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p><p>Today, I&#8217;m going to try and fix that collapse.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> To that end, I offer not one amendment&#8230; but two!</p><div><hr></div><h2><em>Amendment XXXIII</em></h2><p><em><strong>Section 1. </strong>The Senate of the United States shall be composed of one Senator from each State.</em></p><p><em><strong>Section 2.</strong></em><strong> </strong><em>In the first twelve months after this article becomes part of this Constitution, each state shall, under such rules as Congress shall prescribe, be simultaneously deprived of one of its senate seats, as randomly as possible, while preserving the equality of the three classes of the Senate. To fill the state&#8217;s remaining seat for the remainder of the current term, the state shall hold a senate election as prescribed by this Constitution, except that the only eligible nominees shall be the U.S. Senators from that state as of this article&#8217;s ratification.</em></p><div><hr></div><p>Over the centuries of glorious expansion in our Republic, the deliberative, tight-knit Senate that the Founders envisioned has grown from 26 seats to 100. That&#8217;s just too large a body for tight-knit deliberation. </p><p>It is vastly larger than any state senate. (The largest state senate, Minnesota&#8217;s, has 67 members. The smallest, Alaska&#8217;s, has 20. The average state senate has 39 seats.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> The 100 members of our modern federal Senate, by contrast, <em>almost</em> outnumber the 105 members of the Founding-era House, which they understood to be a huge, rowdy body! To aid the Senate in its mission, we should shrink it.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a></p><p>This has to be done very carefully, because the Constitution guarantees every state equal suffrage in the Senate. This cannot be altered, even by a constitutional amendment, not even for one day, without unanimous consent from the states. Amendments are hard enough to pass without seeking unanimous consent, so we will maintain equal suffrage while reducing that suffrage from two per state to one per state. As with other complex amendments, some of the implementation details are left to Congress.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a></p><h2><em>Amendment XXXIV</em></h2><p><em><strong>Section 1. </strong>The members of the United States Senate shall be chosen, in each state, by the least numerous branch of the state legislature thereof, being composed of at least ten members, and whose concurrence is necessary for any act of the state legislature to become law.</em></p><p><em><strong>Section 2.</strong></em><strong> </strong><em>Within thirty calendar days of an imminent or actual vacancy in the state&#8217;s Senate seat, the electoral house shall convene to elect a replacement. Upon a motion and a second nominating an eligible candidate, the body shall immediately vote by secret ballot whether to elect that candidate or not. If two-thirds of members present concur, the nominee is elected. If not, the nominee may not be re-nominated for this vacancy under this section, and the mover and seconder may not move or second another motion for this vacancy under this section. If there are no further nominations, or if no U.S. Senator is elected in this way within two calendar days, the body shall proceed to a contingent election under Section Three.</em></p><p><em><strong>Section 3.</strong></em> <em>In a contingent Senate election, the electoral house shall nominate U.S. Senate candidates by secret ballot, each member&#8217;s ballot bearing the name of one eligible person, or the words, &#8220;I decline to nominate.&#8221; These ballots shall be tabulated in the presence of the entire house. Each eligible person nominated by at least one-tenth of those present shall be a candidate.</em></p><p><em>Then, the body shall immediately vote by secret, ranked ballot. Any ballot that does not rank all candidates shall be invalid. Each ballot may separately veto up to one candidate. A ballot with more than one veto shall be valid, but all its vetoes shall be deemed void.</em></p><p><em>Any candidate receiving a total number of vetoes greater than or equal to the number of valid ballots cast divided by seven-tenths the number of candidates shall be deemed eliminated.</em></p><p><em>Of remaining candidates, if one candidate defeats all others head-to-head, that candidate shall be elected.</em></p><p><em>Otherwise, the smallest set of candidates shall be identified, such that each candidate in the set defeats every candidate outside the set head-to-head. The candidate with the fewest highest-ranked votes who is not in that set shall be eliminated. If there is now a single candidate who defeats all others head-to-head, that candidate shall be elected. Otherwise, candidates shall be eliminated in this way until a candidate is elected, eliminating candidates in the set only if all other candidates have already been eliminated. Exact ties shall be broken by lot.</em></p><p><em><strong>Section 4. </strong>Any pledge, vow, oath, or any other commitment by a Senate elector regarding his votes to nominate or elect a U.S. Senator shall be null, void, and utterly without force from the moment it is made (excepting her oath to this Constitution and her state&#8217;s Constitution), and no Senate elector may be compelled to make any such commitment. Any instruction, advice, or requirement laid upon an elector regarding same, outside the provisions of this Constitution, shall be likewise null and void.</em></p><p><em><strong>Section 5.</strong> The seventeenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed. This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid as part of the Constitution.</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a></p><div><hr></div><p>The Senate was supposed to be composed of wise and skilled lawmakers, each with &#8220;due acquaintance with the objects and principles of legislation.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a> They were to be elected from state legislatures, to reflect the interests of those states (not the People directly) in the corridors of federal power. This different constituency would give them different virtues (and different vices) than the House of Representatives, one more layer in the Founders&#8217; subtle system of check and balance. Senators were expected to be results of a state consensus, because the Founders did not anticipate political parties. Indeed, they mortally feared political parties, and pinned many of their hopes on the notion that the nation would instead be governed by many loose and fluid coalitions led by wise men who would never place the interests of their temporary &#8220;faction&#8221; above the permanent interests of their nation, their state, or their branch.</p><p>The Founders plans were spoilt, because organized political parties formed anyway (as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Duverger%27s_law&amp;oldid=1319100880">they must</a>). </p><p>First, the parties put a stop to that whole &#8220;state consensus&#8221; business. Senators were soon elected, in effect, by their party caucuses, with the usual results:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!euIi!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0f00ab50-dcdd-4a8e-ba86-dd08f1e096fd_800x600.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!euIi!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0f00ab50-dcdd-4a8e-ba86-dd08f1e096fd_800x600.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!euIi!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0f00ab50-dcdd-4a8e-ba86-dd08f1e096fd_800x600.jpeg 848w, 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">What the Founders expected for their senators vs. what actually happened</figcaption></figure></div><p>Gradually, as partisanship took root at every level of the nation, the wider political party organizations supplanted the party legislative caucuses. </p><p>The People, realizing that the state&#8217;s positions in the Senate would swing wildly from election to election based on which party controlled the majority in the state legislature, began to vote for state legislative candidates, not for their positions on the issues nor their merits as legislators nor for their good character, but for the letter next to their name. Their analysis was not wrong, but their tactics changed the character of state legislative elections into proxy votes for the federal Senate. Senate deadlocks began to occur more frequently,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a> as increasingly national parties became less willing to compromise.</p><p>The parties realized they could win more elections with honey than vinegar, so they stopped paying so much attention to qualifications like &#8220;acquaintance with the objects and principles of legislation,&#8221; and started looking for charismatic public speakers who&#8217;d play well for the party on the stump&#8230; or, in other words, demagogues.</p><p>State legislators, frustrated that they often no longer mattered <em>in their own elections</em>, tried desperately to separate themselves. They persuaded their parties to institute &#8220;primary elections,&#8221; where the party&#8217;s supporters chose the party&#8217;s Senate candidate directly. A rapidly growing collection of states even passed laws holding statewide &#8220;advisory elections&#8221; and pledging their legislatures to elect the winner to the U.S. Senate. Maybe <em>then</em> the People would start caring about state issues in state elections!<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a></p><p>The Seventeenth Amendment made popular election for U.S. Senate the law throughout the country. This destroyed the Senate as an institution, and we live in the still-smoldering wreckage (which occasionally implodes down into hitherto-unknown subbasements), but the Seventeenth was only the final surrender to a system that was, by 1912, already in free-falling collapse.</p><p>This amendment proposal restores the Founders&#8217; design, while accounting for the existence of organized political parties (and populist pressure from outside). Let&#8217;s examine its provisions one by one.</p><h2>Section 1: Back to the States</h2><p>First and foremost, this proposal returns U.S. Senate elections from the ballot box to the state legislature.</p><p>However, a number of problems arose from the Constitution&#8217;s original charge that senators must be elected by a double majority: both houses of the state legislature, simultaneously. It was hard to get two houses to agree on a candidate if the two houses were controlled by opposite parties. As a matter of fact, it is hard to get two legislative houses to agree on <em>anything</em>, which led many states to elect U.S. Senators in joint sessions of both houses, blurring the Constitution&#8217;s original intent. However, joint conventions of state house and senate are <em>still</em> harder to manage than single-house proceedings. There&#8217;s a lot more egos to stroke and much more complicated lines of negotiation. </p><p>Even the floor rules are messier! Rules for joint sessions aren&#8217;t as clearly defined, nobody knows them as well as the rules of their home house, and there&#8217;s far fewer precedents fleshing them out. There are lots of people out there eager to exploit ambiguities in the floor rules,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a> so &#8220;less robust rules&#8221; is a serious drawback.</p><p>Thus, this proposal simplifies: it assigns election of U.S. Senators, not to both houses of the state legislature, but to the state senate alone. (It seemed appropriate.)</p><p>Of course, the proposal can&#8217;t just say, &#8220;state senate,&#8221; because not every state <em>has</em> a senate. Nebraska has a unicameral legislature. All states with a bicameral legislature currently call their upper house &#8220;the senate,&#8221; but they don&#8217;t have to. New Jersey calls its lower house the &#8220;General Assembly,&#8221; not the more common &#8220;House of Representatives,&#8221; so, in the future, a state could rename their state senate something else, like &#8220;Sheev Palpatine&#8221;:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H9q2!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82ccecd5-0abf-40e1-ab6f-68b597825b82_590x369.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H9q2!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82ccecd5-0abf-40e1-ab6f-68b597825b82_590x369.jpeg 424w, 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">I refuse to do a whole series on the Senate without ever making this joke.</figcaption></figure></div><p>So the amendment includes some general language about the &#8220;least numerous branch of the state legislature&#8221; that captures all state senates <em>and</em> the Unicameral.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a></p><p>However, we can&#8217;t <em>just</em> return senator election to the legislatures, or even to the state senates, and call it a day. After all, that&#8217;s the system that was in place until 1912&#8230; and that system was already broken! We still must address the problems of proxy election and popular, partisan control over the nominees.</p><h2>Section 2: Require a Consensus Senator</h2><p><em>[Text]</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a></p><p>The next section of the proposal gives the state senate two days to freely elect someone (with just a little extra language to prevent state senates from stalling). However, to win at this stage, the candidate must win a two-thirds supermajority.</p><p>This supermajority requirement has two benefits.</p><p>First, in any state that is even <em>slightly</em> purple,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a> it will be impossible to achieve a two-thirds supermajority without at least <em>some</em> votes from the minority party. This gives the minority party leverage to force a candidate who is broadly acceptable to all parties. That pushes the elected senator away from the <em>majority party&#8217;s</em> ideological center and toward the <em>state&#8217;s</em> ideological center.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-14" href="#footnote-14" target="_self">14</a> So this requirement directly addresses one of the shortcomings of the current Senate.</p><p>Second, the supermajority requirement helps break down party discipline, enabling the greater independent judgment we&#8217;re seeking for our state legislators. It gives leverage to the minority, and even to factions of the majority&#8212;leverage which can be used to pry majority members apart from their party bosses. &#8220;Of course <em>I </em>wanted to vote for our party&#8217;s wonderful nominee,&#8221; they can say, lying, &#8220;but that darned minority party wouldn&#8217;t accept him, so we had to find a compromise.&#8221; If that compromise happens to be someone everyone in the state senate recognized as a better candidate all along, so much the better.</p><p>The secret ballot further erodes party discipline by allowing legislators to vote their conscience without being caught and punished for it. We <em>want</em> state senators, in this case, to exercise independent judgment based on personal experience and relationships, rather than towing the line or fearing backlash from constituents who have been enraged by something they saw about the race on social media. The secret ballot gives them that freedom of judgment.</p><p>Once party discipline breaks down, so does the mechanism that changed state legislative elections into proxy elections for the federal Senate. Once there&#8217;s no longer a clear relationship between a state senator&#8217;s party and the final outcome of the federal Senate race, voters have fewer incentives to vote a party line just to win a senate seat.</p><p>Finally, this requirement is more likely to lead to stability in state policy (and, ultimately, federal policy) over time. If, in a given state, Republicans enjoy a thin majority over the Democrats, the only road to a two-thirds majority probably goes through a moderate Republican. When the Democrats take back that narrow majority, <em>their</em> only road to a two-thirds majority likely goes through a moderate Democrat&#8230; or perhaps even the same moderate Republican, who will, by this point, have certain seniority privileges, certain allies, and certain experience navigating the federal Senate, that could benefit the entire state. (Of course, the moderate Republican or Democrat would have to be <em>pretty darned moderate</em> to carry off this balancing act over multiple terms.)</p><p>Now, I&#8217;m a partisan at heart. I hate moderates. However, my flavor of partisan maximalism belongs in the House of Representatives. A large part of the Senate&#8217;s purpose is to <em>counteract</em> sentiments like mine. Let no one touch my bloody-minded, red-meat partisan attack dogs in the House, but our design for the Senate must set this aside, or partisan excesses will poison the whole system. Indeed, they already (very obviously) have!</p><h2>Section 3: Contingent Election</h2><p>Alas, sometimes, an electoral body cannot reach a consensus for a long time. Indeed, under the Founders&#8217; system, it could take divided state governments months, or even <em>years</em>, to elect a senator, and that was with only a simple majority required (albeit in both houses). Because this amendment imposes a two-thirds requirement, it is much <em>more</em> likely to cause deadlock.</p><p>Rather than allow the minority to stall out the majority indefinitely,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-15" href="#footnote-15" target="_self">15</a> the proposal forces everyone to a contingent election after two days. This process is unpleasant for everyone. Rather than an agreed-upon candidate, there&#8217;s a lot of finicky details to ensure that, essentially, nobody who reaches this stage gets their first choice, or perhaps even their second choice. This, in itself, is a strong incentive for the two sides to get together and make a deal before it comes to this point. I expect that it will rarely come to this point, so much of what you are about to read would be irrelevant in most elections. Nevertheless, sometimes, it <em>will</em> come to this point, and we had better be prepared.</p><h3>The Nominations Phase</h3><p><em>[Text]</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-16" href="#footnote-16" target="_self">16</a></p><p>In this contingent election, nominations are open to any qualified resident of the state, but each state senator can nominate only one candidate,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-17" href="#footnote-17" target="_self">17</a> and each candidate needs the support of one-tenth of the body to reach the next stage. In effect, this places a hard cap on the total number of nominations: no matter how large the body, you will never have more than 10 nominees.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-18" href="#footnote-18" target="_self">18</a></p><p>Naturally, the political parties, as well as caucuses <em>within</em> each political party, will coordinate their nominations to ensure certain candidates are nominated. If either party held some sort of public primary election, they will almost certainly make sure to nominate whoever won that election&#8212;and these primary winners will, as usual, reflect ideological extremes, not the state&#8217;s median. Factions <em>within</em> each party may also choose to nominate. However, both parties have strong incentives to nominate as many candidates as they possibly can. This is because of the veto, which we&#8217;ll get to in a moment.</p><p>Once the nominees are announced,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-19" href="#footnote-19" target="_self">19</a> the body votes by secret, ranked ballot.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-20" href="#footnote-20" target="_self">20</a> However, any voting system that allows open nominations followed by ranked-choice vote can be effectively manipulated by a bare majority to force their preferred outcome. In other words, if we immediately counted votes at this point, the majority could manipulate either the ballots or (more cleverly) the list of nominees to effectively guarantee victory to the winner of their party primary.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-21" href="#footnote-21" target="_self">21</a></p><h3>The Vetoes Phase</h3><p><em>[Text]</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-22" href="#footnote-22" target="_self">22</a></p><p>That is why this system incorporates vetoes. Nominations are open, but the minority party (and other small coalitions) can act together to narrow the list back down, eliminating primary winners, unacceptable candidates, or candidates nominated solely to manipulate the ballot-counting. Of course, the majority party can do this, too!<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-23" href="#footnote-23" target="_self">23</a> As each side eliminates unacceptable candidates, they leave behind acceptable ones, forming the basis to force the compromise they failed to make in Section Two. Overall, we&#8217;ll usually expect around two-thirds of the nominees to be eliminated at this stage. Here&#8217;s how that works:</p><p>Alongside their ranked choices, each state senator&#8217;s ballot includes up to one veto. These are tallied immediately. If any candidate receives a certain number of vetoes, that candidate is eliminated from all remaining rounds of counting. </p><p>The veto threshold varies based on the size of the house and the number of nominees: &#8220;<em>the number of valid ballots cast divided by seven-tenths the number of candidates&#8221;.</em> For example, in a 39-person state senate with 9 nominees, the veto threshold is 7.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-24" href="#footnote-24" target="_self">24</a> If that same senate puts up only 3 nominees, however, the veto threshold nearly triples, to 19.</p><p>This veto threshold ensures that any sizable<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-25" href="#footnote-25" target="_self">25</a> minority party will have the power to veto at least <em>one</em> majority-party nominee, but that the majority party will <em>not </em>be able to veto <em>all</em> the minority-party nominees. This leaves the majority in the driver&#8217;s seat, but gives the minority real leverage. The minority can offer a serious compromise candidate as a carrot&#8230; and veto any clear majority favorite as the stick.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-26" href="#footnote-26" target="_self">26</a> </p><p>The minority party will, in general, nominate as many candidates as it can, because more nominations lead to a lower veto threshold, which, in turn, gives the minority more leverage against the majority. The majority party has a good incentive to do the same thing, since, if it nominates only one or two people (in order to keep the veto threshold high), the minority stands a real chance of eliminating <em>all</em> the majority-party candidates. (Again, the veto mechanism allows well-coordinated voters to eliminate around two-thirds of the nominees.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-27" href="#footnote-27" target="_self">27</a>) Any party foolish enough to hold a primary of some sort and choose an official &#8220;standard-bearer&#8221; will be disappointed when that standard-bearer inevitably gets vetoed.</p><p>If parties are nominating broadly and voting more or less sincerely, we will at this point find that extreme candidates in all parties have been knocked out by the veto, leaving only plausible compromise candidates in the field. If parties are nominating strategically and vetoing tactically (they will), we expect&#8230; more or less the same thing. Neither party can put forward an official &#8220;standard-bearer&#8221; without the other party&#8217;s consent. A too-greedy majority party <em>could</em> arrange things to ensure that its last candidate standing is an extremist, but that merely opens the majority to a tough vote between that extremist and the sensible moderate nominated by the minority.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-28" href="#footnote-28" target="_self">28</a></p><h3>The Condorcet Phase</h3><p><em>[Text]</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-29" href="#footnote-29" target="_self">29</a></p><p>Once the vetoes are settled and (roughly) two-thirds of the candidates are eliminated, we proceed at last to counting the votes.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-30" href="#footnote-30" target="_self">30</a> This final phase is, in many ways, the least important. The most crucial choices are made in the nomination and veto phases. </p><p>To count the votes, we simply check whether there&#8217;s a Condorcet winner: if there is one candidate who would beat every other candidate in a head-to-head matchup, she wins. This method <em>tends</em> to elect more moderate candidates acceptable to all, especially if voters are sincere. For example, if Robbie Right-Wing, Millie Moderate, and Larry Lefty run in a chamber with 45% right-wingers, 20% moderates, and 35% left-wingers, Millie <em>should</em> win: she beats Larry 65%-35% and she beats Robbie 55%-45%. A Condorcet count ensures that she does.</p><p>Of course, party discipline and tactical voting can subvert this moderation tendency pretty badly, so we aren&#8217;t counting on it. On the other hand, we have given legislators the secret ballot and we&#8217;ve prohibited bullet ballots. This allows partisans to evade party discipline more or less undetectably. That strengthens the consensus-seeking heart of Condorcet voting.</p><p>In the very unlikely event that there is more than one Condorcet winner (ties happen!), we break it using Benham&#8217;s method. Benham&#8217;s method eliminates the least-popular candidates,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-31" href="#footnote-31" target="_self">31</a> one by one, and recounts after each elimination until there is a winner. In a previous article, I wrote <em>much</em> more about <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/166133934/condorcet-winner">Condorcet winners</a> and <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/166133934/condorcet-tiebreak-benhams-method">Benham&#8217;s method</a>, so if you want more, check there.</p><h3>Summing Up the Contingent Election</h3><p>Overall, this method of election works very well when all voters are acting sincerely (with parties exercising little or no control), but it still works pretty well when both parties have strong control.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-32" href="#footnote-32" target="_self">32</a> Where the system tends to fall short is when one party (whether the minority or the majority) has more control over its caucus than the other. (I&#8217;ve put some example elections in this footnote for your perusal, all of which assume highly coordinated parties.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-33" href="#footnote-33" target="_self">33</a>) The system therefore encourages participants to build cross-party trust and <em>mutually</em> disarm. </p><p>Indeed, if parties are powerful, Section Three elections force them both to work very hard, under heavy restrictions, only to leave them, in the end, with <em>probably</em> the same U.S Senator they would have had if they&#8217;d just made a deal during Section Two. This gives all sides an incentive to just make that deal during Section Two and save themselves the trouble! That&#8217;s why I anticipate that, while this contingent election system is robust (and needs to be), it will rarely actually be invoked, because parties will re-learn how to make deals. In the long run, that, too, is likely to bring forth a better breed of U.S. Senator.</p><h2>Section 4: No Binding</h2><p><em>[Text]</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-34" href="#footnote-34" target="_self">34</a></p><p>This section of the proposal does relatively little real work. The power of the parties over U.S. Senate election is mostly broken by the secret ballot, the prohibition of bullet ballots, and the two-thirds requirement in Section Two. </p><p>However, parties will certainly keep trying to exercise formal control over their state senators anyway, principally by extracting pledges and oaths from them. The few honest men still in politics may consider pledges and oaths morally binding, even though they are not legally binding. This could give parties undue leverage over those honest politicians&#8230; or force those last few honest men out of politics! Neither is desirable, so Section Four simply removes the power of political parties (or states) to extract commitments that are binding legally <em>or</em> morally.</p><p>While other provisions erode the parties&#8217; informal powers over the U.S. Senate election, this provision demolishes their less important formal powers.</p><h2>Section 5: Boilerplate</h2><p><em>[Text]</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-35" href="#footnote-35" target="_self">35</a></p><p>When you repeal an amendment, it is important to do so explicitly. We do not, after all, want there to be any argument that Governors or voters retain the power to fill midterm vacancies by appointment. It is equally important to clarify the limits of the new amendment; here, I borrow language from the Seventeenth Amendment that clarifies that nobody elected by the people will be thrown out of office or subjected to legislative election before the end of their regular term.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-36" href="#footnote-36" target="_self">36</a></p><h2>Alternatives Worth Considering</h2><p>At any actual Article V convention of the states, many proposals will be debated. I think my shrink-the-Senate proposal is simple and speaks for itself. However, when it comes to replacing the Seventeenth Amendment, there are a lot of ideas on the market. Obviously, I think mine&#8217;s the best. However, other delegates might disagree, and it may become clear that my proposal is non-viable. At that point, my supporters must consider alternatives. Some of them are worth considering! </p><p>Others are not. The main thing you need to watch out for is: will this proposal <em>actually</em> return power over the election of senators to the state legislature? Or does the proposal simply <em>claim</em> to return that power to legislatures, while <em>actually</em> turning state legislative elections into proxy races for U.S. Senate, or giving <a href="https://alec.org/model-policy/draft-resolution-recommending-constitutional-amendment-restoring-election-of-u-s-senators-to-the-legislatures-of-the-sovereign-states-2/">the governor</a> effective control over nominations? Or, alternatively, does the proposal ratify the destruction of the Senate&#8217;s deliberative character (perhaps by massively expanding it), or otherwise encourage Senators to behave badly?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PIDo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5aa2a31-b245-4e80-8b17-ecb54bbffbb3_1920x2469.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PIDo!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5aa2a31-b245-4e80-8b17-ecb54bbffbb3_1920x2469.jpeg 424w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">One option: replace the Senate with a Sith Lord. Yes, I already made this joke. But remember: always two there are, no more, no less.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Here are some possibilities that, in my opinion, stand a real chance at succeeding, and are worth supporting if my proposal is non-viable:</p><h3>Make Mine a Conclave</h3><p>Conclaves are great. You can shatter all kinds of electoral coalitions if you lock everybody involved in a building by themselves, turn off their phones, take away the cameras, and refuse to let them come out until they reach an honest two-thirds consensus. I&#8217;ve <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/the-conclave-is-in-the-world-and">told you</a> the conclave (not the Holy Spirit) is the great strength of the Catholic Church&#8217;s papal electoral system and I&#8217;ve told you (even earlier) that we should elect the president by a <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/towards-an-unelected-president">conclave of the governors</a>, so why not elect the Senate the same way, given my priorities of a consensus candidate, a wise statesman, chosen without undue influence from political parties?</p><p>I avoided this because <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/177539368/suppress-deadlocks-with-proper-conclaves">I think</a> the difficulty of securing so many senate elections is high, and any security failures create a risk of deadlock, and deadlocks were one of the main things that killed the original Senate election system in the first place, so this seemed politically and logistically infeasible. However, in principle, I don&#8217;t have a problem with it, and would support it if that&#8217;s where the convention was heading. I particularly liked <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/fixing-the-senate-part-iii-your-correspondent/comment/175912397">this suggestion</a> from Andres Riofrio:</p><blockquote><p><em>Hmm&#8230; if [the contingent election] is meant to be a painful threat and backstop to avoid deadlocks, couldn&#8217;t we keep the regular election at first, and use the threat of a secluded conclave (where they&#8217;re not allowed to leave until they choose) as the backstop?</em></p><p><em>This way (it seems) most of the costs of the conclave process are avoided because state senators would much rather come to a compromise while they&#8217;re still free and home, especially since they&#8217;ll be forced to make the exact same kind of compromise eventually, but behind gates and potentially far from home.</em></p></blockquote><p>This is a good idea. I like it. By using the conclave only as a backstop (just like the contingent election in my proposal), it greatly reduces my worries about it.</p><h3>Stick &#8216;Em In A Hat</h3><p>In a <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/177539368/simpler-election-methods">previous piece</a>, I said, &#8220;I have a deep and abiding fondness for election by sortition. Injecting an element of randomness into elections probably does not reduce candidate quality, but probably <em>does</em> reduce candidate ambition.&#8221; This led Mathematicae to <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/fixing-the-senate-part-iii-your-correspondent/comment/175756096">suggest</a> that we just replace Section Three with random selection. If, after two days, the state senate can&#8217;t come to a two-thirds agreement, then, instead of holding a complicated contingent election like I proposed, we could just put every person who was nominated and received some reasonable number of votes (say, 30%) into a hat and choose the winner by lot.</p><p>I don&#8217;t <em>love</em> this, because it is very &#8220;swingy.&#8221; It sets a minority party up, in particular, to reject all compromise in order to roll the dice on maybe getting one of its favored candidates through. How does the majority respond? Naturally, by putting up someone extreme and unpalatable of their own, as a sort of threat, in order to force the minority to bargain honestly. (Because, in this system, each legislator can only support one nominee, the majority will always have more nominees and more names in the hat.) I am okay with this system because I think this threat will probably, usually, work!</p><p><em>But if it doesn&#8217;t</em>, you&#8217;re liable to end up with U.S. senators even <em>less</em> representative of their states&#8217; ideology than we have today. Across the country, <em>on average</em>, this will cancel out, as a lucky left-wing extremist who drew the short straw will be countered by a lucky right-wing extremist who drew the short straw. Yet you could see a right-leaning purple state like Ohio suddenly represented by a Bernie Sanders type, or Minnesota suddenly represented by a Ted Cruz type. That&#8217;s a risk I&#8217;d prefer to avoid, especially because I think the People would rebel if it happened often. Nevertheless, I think this system would, on the whole, almost certainly still be a great improvement on the current system and on the original Seventeenth Amendment, so I would support it if I couldn&#8217;t get my proposal across the finish line.</p><h3>Blunt-Force Trauma to the Nominees List</h3><p>In my proposal, if the consensus election fails, the fallback contingent election selects the winner by ranked-choice voting. However, I have written that, for elections with few voters, &#8220;any voting system that allows open nominations followed by ranked-choice vote can be effectively manipulated by a bare majority to force their preferred outcome.&#8221; In my proposal, I addressed this problem by following open nominations with a veto round, allowing the minority (and majority) to tactically narrow the list. </p><p>There are, however, other ways to narrow the list. You <em>could</em> use an algorithm, like DW-NOMINATE, to <em>automatically</em> throw out candidates who do not hew pretty close to the state&#8217;s median voter. <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/replacing-the-seventeenth-amendment">I proposed</a> exactly that in a previous attempt at this proposal. There are <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/fixing-the-senate-part-iii-your-correspondent">lots of problems</a> with this approach, but, if the delegates liked DW-NOMINATE, or found some better answer to the problem, it&#8217;d be worth considering.</p><h3>Tuning the Veto</h3><p>There are several methods that are virtually equivalent to mine, but with a different veto threshold. Various techniques to find the &#8220;least hated&#8221; member of the body (like <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/fixing-the-senate-part-iii-your-correspondent/comment/175829048">this one, proposed</a> by Gilbert) boil down to this method, except for allowing (indeed, requiring) way more vetoes. This is fine and worth considering as an alternative, even though I don&#8217;t love some of the expected consequences.</p><p>On the other hand, I&#8217;m wary of methods that try to allow <em>fewer</em> vetoes than this method. If the minority doesn&#8217;t have adequate veto power, the majority will begin to find ways to reliably wrestle its preferred candidate into office, and the Senate will break down in many of the same ways as it did the last time we tried this.</p><h3>Tuning the Details</h3><p>Maybe the delegates like the whole proposal, except for the part about using Benham&#8217;s Method as a tiebreak. Maybe they&#8217;d rather use Hare elimination, or just jump straight to drawing lots like we usually do when there&#8217;s a tie. Fine by me! (It would certainly allow us to delete a lot of words in Section Three!) Maybe delegates would rather see the U.S. Senate elected by state houses, instead of by state senates&#8212;or even go all the way back to election by joint session, for some reason. Okay!</p><p>I wrote the best amendment I could, but you can&#8217;t get married to implementation details in a constitutional convention, as long as your broad objectives are being met. There are lots of details that could be changed here without compromising the objectives. (There are also lots of details that cannot. The trick is knowing the difference!)</p><h2>A Senate for a Polarized Century</h2><p>Today, we have a broken Senate. It was designed to protect states from the encroachment of the federal government, and to provide a counterpoint / containment system for the populist demagoguery that was sure to dominate the House. It has instead become amplifiers for both. Many people have come to believe the Senate is redundant and ought to be abolished. If the choice is between the Senate as it exists today and no Senate at all&#8230; I hate to admit that those people are <em>right</em>.</p><p>However, that isn&#8217;t the choice we face. Leaving aside the fact that small states can (and will) prevent the Senate&#8217;s abolition unto eternity, we could also try to fix the Senate.</p><p>These amendments are an attempt to do so. The first proposal shrinks the Senate so that it can be a more focused, deliberative, even <em>intimate</em> body. The second proposal changes the Senate electorate back to a small group of well-informed legislators (rather than a mass mob swayed by feelings and campaign ads), insulates those legislators against partisan pressures, presses them toward consensus candidates who reflect the state&#8217;s median voter, and provides insurance against deadlocks. </p><p>You wanted to get money out of politics? &#8220;Campaign finance reform&#8221; and overturning <em>Citizens United</em> doesn&#8217;t work (and would be a bad idea even if it did). The way you get money out of politics is by making money less necessary <em>for</em> politics, and the way you do that is smaller, more tight-knit electorates. In the Senate, that means transferring power to a smaller elected body. In the House, it means <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/expand-the-house-you-cowards">much smaller districts</a>. There was a lot less money in Senate politics before the Seventeenth Amendment, and we can do it again.</p><p>These amendments&#8217; ultimate aim is to not simply to change the Senate&#8217;s structure, but to renew the Senate&#8217;s <em>culture</em>. Unfortunately, since culture is the result of human choices, I cannot prove this will succeed the way you prove <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow%27s_impossibility_theorem">a theorem</a>. All we can do is create structures that create the right incentives, and hope that those incentives lead to more humans making more good choices a lot more of the time.</p><p>As the saying goes, though, &#8220;Show me the incentive and I&#8217;ll show you the outcome.&#8221; I think this proposal creates the right incentives, in a manageable package that voters can understand. There are other options, too. </p><p>We cannot abolish the Senate. We cannot neuter the Senate. The small states will never allow it. However, we can <em>fix</em> the Senate. We should choose to try.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>De Civitate</em> is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p><em><strong>Next Voyages: </strong>When Some Constitutional Amendments (eventually) returns, I expect to take a pause to discuss </em>why<em> I am doing this, since constitutional amendments seem so impossible right now. After that, my inclination is to move on next to Article V, aka the reason constitutional amendments seem so impossible right now. However, it will likely be a minute. I feel a Catholic spasm coming on.</em></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>There were two other parts in the series: &#8220;<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/replacing-the-seventeenth-amendment">Replacing the Seventeenth Amendment</a>,&#8221; which proposed a solution which you, the <em>De Civ</em> readership, roundly rejected as complicated, unwieldy, impractical, gameable, and, in general, bad. </p><p>This was followed by an even longer article, &#8220;<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/fixing-the-senate-part-iii-your-correspondent">Fixing the Senate, Part III</a>,&#8221; where I discussed all the comments. (This, naturally, spawned even more comments, many of them quite useful!)</p><p>Parts II and III make fun reading, and go a long way toward showing how I got to today&#8217;s proposal. However, they are <em>not</em> essential reading today.</p><p>P.S. Those of you who responded to Parts II and III obviously shaped today&#8217;s piece in many important ways. Several of them will be obvious. I read every comment, and I hope I &#8220;liked&#8221; all of them. This article is pretty obviously a major revision of Part II, which came about thanks to your good offices. Now, whether you agree with this revised approach is a question only you can answer! Nonetheless, I appreciated all your feedback.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8230;again. These proposed amendments are clearly a second draft of <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/replacing-the-seventeenth-amendment">my first proposal</a>. The outline of the article will be familiar to everyone who read the previous installments. This is necessary, so all the other readers can still follow along. However, since I don&#8217;t want to bore you to death, I changed most of the actual words. Also, a little ways down (in Footnote 6) I&#8217;ll summarize the changes between drafts, just in case you want to skim a little. (Obviously, the <em>really</em> big changes are in Section III of the second proposal.)</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The median state senate, if you&#8217;re curious, has 38 seats. Kentucky, Michigan, and Rhode Island all share this distinction.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>A bonus for those who are concerned about population distortions in the electoral college: halving the size of the Senate takes care of a lot of that distortion. Of course, I would replace the electoral college with a gubernatorial conclave anyway, but still worth mentioning.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Here is one possible implementation:</p><ol><li><p>Congress picks a Date Certain within twelve months of ratification. It doesn&#8217;t need to be far in the future, but it ought to be far enough away for states to hold an intervening special Senate election.</p></li><li><p>Currently, Senate Class 3 is the largest, with 34 members to 33 for the others. Congress puts all the Class 3 seats in a hat/bingo roller/lottery ball blower and randomly selects one. (Let&#8217;s say Idaho&#8217;s Class 3 seat gets picked. The seat is currently held by Mike Crapo.) Crapo&#8217;s term will now expire at the Date Certain.</p></li><li><p>Now all Senate Classes have 33 seats, so Congress now puts <em>all</em> Senate seats into the bingo roller&#8212;except Idaho&#8217;s remaining Class 1 seat, since Idaho already lost its seat. It picks another. It&#8217;s Cory Booker, New Jersey&#8217;s Class 2 senator!</p></li><li><p>Class 1 and Class 3 now have 33 seats, and Class 2 has 32 seats. Congress now randomly selects between all Class 1 and Class 2 seats, excluding the seats from New Jersey or Idaho.</p></li><li><p>&#8230;and so on. Repeat until each state has lost one seat, leaving behind Senate class sizes of 17, 17, and 16.</p></li><li><p>Each state has now had one senate seat designated for elimination, but still has two senators. Each state now holds an election between those two senators to determine who gets to serve out the remainder of that seat&#8217;s term, and who is going home immediately. </p></li><li><p>This election follows whatever rules are currently prescribed by the Constitution: popular vote under the current Constitution; election by the state senate under the proposed Amendment XXXIV. (If a state fails to hold and certify an election like this in time, the senator who currently holds the non-eliminated seat remains in place until the election is held and resolved. If one of them dies between ratification and this special election, he still appears on the ballot, and creates a vacancy if he wins&#8212;similar to the Senate election in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_United_States_Senate_election_in_Missouri">Missouri in 2000</a>.)</p></li><li><p>When the Date Certain is reached, the terminated seats are simultaneously terminated, and the survivor in each state finishes out the term of the surviving seat.</p></li></ol><p>However, Congress could easily vary the implementation details in various perfectly reasonable ways. Attempts to juke it would likely trigger messy litigation based on the &#8220;as randomly as possible&#8221; clause and probably fail in the end, so will, I think, be avoided.</p><p>Oh, as for examples of other cases where the Constitution leaves certain crucial implementation details to Congress: Article I, Section 2 orders a census &#8220;in such Manner as they shall by Law direct&#8221;; Article IV, Section 1 says that Congress will work out the details of proving &#8220;full faith and credit&#8221;; Article V leaves it to Congress to write all the details of a call to convention; and so on and so forth. </p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>For those readers who read my <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/replacing-the-seventeenth-amendment">previous Senate proposal</a> and are curious about exactly why I changed certain details, I explain several in this footnote.</p><p>Obviously, I have split the whole thing into two amendments, so Section Six and the first half of Section One are no longer in this one.</p><p>Section One (election by state senates) has been slightly adjusted to address some of the evasive maneuvers suggested in the comments of both Part II <em>and</em> Part III. For example, it no longer accidentally outlaws legislation by direct democratic initiative!</p><p>Section Two (the consensus election stage) is unaltered. I don&#8217;t think anyone really objected to it. Everyone&#8217;s concerns were (rightly) focused on the messier contingent election stage.</p><p>Of course, Section Three (the contingent election if consensus election fails), is the big one. It was always the problem section. Its existence caused many of the other complications in the proposal. Therefore, it has been gutted and rewritten. The hated DW-NOMINATE is gone. I&#8217;ll talk about that in the main body of the article.</p><p>I have jettisoned the original Section Four, which provided a fast-track process for the House of Representatives to amend portions of this amendment, partly because that process could, in theory, be exploited to do terrific damage to the rest of the Constitution. It was suggested that, at a minimum, I should add a single-subject limit, but I&#8217;ve seen state litigation over single-subject limits, and they are a mess, best avoided. </p><p>However, I deleted Section Four <em>mostly</em> because the reason I proposed a fast-track amendment process for this amendment in the first place was because I didn&#8217;t have great confidence in the election method I had proposed. I thought it might very well need modification. I feel much better about this one.</p><p>Section Five (barring oaths, pledges, and instructions) has been renumbered as Section Four and slightly tweaked to prevent states from putting state senators in the morally compromised position of being forced to swear a <em>state</em> oath that is <em>federally</em> nullified.</p><p>I have also deleted Section Seven, making the amendment fully subject to the jurisdiction of federal courts. This provision partly repealed Article I, Section 5, Clause 1, which makes each house of Congress the sole judge of the elections, returns, and qualifications of its own members. Originally, I included this because I have seen how partisan actors vie to break the law in clever ways so they <em>technically</em> can&#8217;t be challenged in court, and I didn&#8217;t want to let them get away with it. </p><p>However, on further reflection (read: reading all your comments), it was put before my mind that <em>the whole point</em> of this amendment is to depolarize the Senate and make it less of a partisan actor. If we succeed, then the revitalized Senate can actually be trusted to perform this function fairly! On the other hand, if we fail, this provision won&#8217;t matter, because it would only exist to defend a reality we will have failed to establish in the first place.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>You may think the members of the House should <em>also</em> have &#8220;due acquaintance with&#8230; legislation,&#8221; but <em><a href="https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed62.asp">Federalist 62</a> </em>expressly disclaims this:</p><blockquote><p>Another defect to be supplied by a senate lies in a want of due acquaintance with the objects and principles of legislation. It is not possible that an assembly of men [the House of Representatives] <strong>called for the most part from pursuits of a private nature, continued in appointment for a short time, and led by no permanent motive to devote the intervals of public occupation to a study of the laws, the affairs, and the comprehensive interests of their country, should</strong>, if left wholly to themselves, escape a variety of important errors in the exercise of their legislative trust. It may be affirmed, on the best grounds, that no small share of the present embarrassments of America is to be charged on the blunders of our governments; and that these have proceeded from the heads rather than the hearts of most of the authors of them.</p></blockquote><p>Because the House was to be popularly elected, the Founders expected the House to be, well, dumb! They expected the House, by itself, to make &#8220;blunders&#8230; proceed[ing] from the[ir] heads rather the[ir] hearts.&#8221; The Senate was to correct this.</p><p>Needless to say, the Senate does not serve this purpose today.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8230;fueled in part by the misguided Deadlocks Bill of 1866&#8230;</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Results are mixed. Did YOU decide how to vote for in the last state senate election based on anything other than the letter next to her name? Few did!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Including many of you lovely readers, based on the comment section in Part II!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>In case states try to evade this provision by making up new pseudo-legislative bodies with no powers and labeling <em>them</em> the state senate, the amendment also provides some minimum qualifications for a body to count as a state senate: it must have at least ten members, and its support must be required for a bill to become a law. If a state wants to create a third legislative house along the lines of the House of Lords or a colonial Council of Revision, with just five members and no lawmaking power except an overridable veto, the state is free to do so. That body simply won&#8217;t count as the &#8220;least numerous branch of the legislature&#8221; for the purposes of this amendment, and will therefore not be the one that elects the state&#8217;s U.S. senator.</p><p>The number ten here is not just a matter of prudence. There are certain dependable properties of the deadlock-resolution mechanism proposed in Section Three of this proposal which break down if there are fewer than 10 members in the state senate.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em><strong>Section 2.</strong></em><strong> </strong><em>Within thirty calendar days of an imminent or actual vacancy in the state&#8217;s Senate seat, the electoral house shall convene to elect a replacement. Upon a motion and a second nominating an eligible candidate, the body shall immediately vote by secret ballot whether to elect that candidate or not. If two-thirds of members present concur, the nominee is elected. If not, the nominee may not be re-nominated for this vacancy under this section, and the mover and seconder may not move or second another motion for this vacancy under this section. If there are no further nominations, or if no U.S. Senator is elected in this way within two calendar days, the body shall proceed to a contingent election under Section Three.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-13" href="#footnote-anchor-13" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">13</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Right now, in our extremely polarized country, about half the states are purple enough to put a minority party in control of at least one-third of the seats. In states like Hawaii, where the Democrats control an impressive 92% of state senate seats, the majority will naturally nominate and elect whoever they please, which is likely to be someone close to the party&#8217;s ideological median. </p><p>In those cases, though, that&#8217;s okay! In states where one party has overwhelming control, the ideological center of the party is quite close to the ideological center of the state! My only regret is that candidates in these states could be nominated by the party primary process and mass democracy. I console myself with the knowledge that party organizations in those states tend to be so strong (practically an adjunct of state government) that primary election competition is largely steered by the central committee and usually rather sedate, without the tumults and seizures of a truly mass political campaign.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-14" href="#footnote-anchor-14" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">14</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Of course, in states like Hawaii or Wyoming, where a single party controls roughly <a href="https://documents.ncsl.org/wwwncsl/Elections/Legis_Control_2025_8.29.25.pdf">90% of the seats</a>, the minority party will have no leverage under this requirement. However, that&#8217;s okay here, because the ideological center of such a dominant majority party <em>is</em>, in effect, the ideological center of the state.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-15" href="#footnote-anchor-15" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">15</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The minority might very well prefer an empty Senate seat to any senator supported by the majority. They therefore have good incentives to deny the state any representation in the federal senate.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-16" href="#footnote-anchor-16" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">16</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em><strong>Section 3.</strong></em> <em>In a contingent Senate election, the electoral house shall nominate U.S. Senate candidates by secret ballot, each member&#8217;s ballot bearing the name of one eligible person, or the words, &#8220;I decline to nominate.&#8221; These ballots shall be tabulated in the presence of the entire house. Each eligible person nominated by at least one-tenth of those present shall be a candidate.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-17" href="#footnote-anchor-17" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">17</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The proposal requires voters to write, &#8220;I decline to nominate&#8221; if they are, for whatever reason, abstaining from nomination. This is for a very boring reason: we need nominating ballots to be secret. If some voters turned in blank ballots without taking even a second to write anything down on their sheets, we would instantly know they cast no nominating ballot. If many legislators did this, those casting nomination ballots would be exposed by the time it took them to write down a name, and could face party discipline, which is exactly what we are trying to help them evade. Forcing everyone to write down <em>something </em>provides some protection to those who are actually writing down names.</p><p>This is a pretty edge-case thing to worry about. Since, as we will see, both parties have incentives to maximize nominees anyway, it&#8217;s unlikely many people will abstain regardless. Nevertheless, better to have this protection on the books than not.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-18" href="#footnote-anchor-18" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">18</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The cap is somewhat less if the number of seats in your state senate is not evenly divisible by 10. For example, in a 62-person state senate, you need 6.2 nominations to become a candidate, but, of course, there&#8217;s no such thing as &#8220;0.2 nominations,&#8221; so each candidate actually needs 7 nominations. 7 / 62 = 8.85, so a 62-person senate is effectively capped at 8 nominations. This makes no real difference for elections or strategy.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-19" href="#footnote-anchor-19" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">19</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Can nominees refuse nomination under this proposal? Obviously, if they are elected, they can decline election / immediately resign. This creates a new vacancy in the seat, thus restarting the election process. But can a candidate refuse to allow his own name into <em>nomination</em>? On this text, he cannot: &#8220;Each eligible person nominated by at least one-tenth of those present shall be a candidate.&#8221; No ifs, ands, or buts. The only way a nominee could wriggle out of it is by announcing that he is <a href="https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S3-C3-1/ALDE_00013345/">actually under the age of thirty and/or an insufficiently naturalized foreigner</a>. (Until 2024, he could also get out of it by claiming to be a rebel, but the Supreme Court&#8217;s <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/the-supreme-court-gives-section-3">bad decision</a> effectively deleted that provision from the Constitution.)</p><p>Of course, before nomination votes are cast, a potential nominee can always put Sherman&#8217;s word about to his fellows: &#8220;If drafted, I will not run; if nominated, I will not accept; if elected, I will not serve.&#8221; This usually works!</p><p>I don&#8217;t think this is an important provision. This proposal would, I think, work just as well if nominees could refuse candidacy. A nominee&#8217;s refusal generally hurts his own party, rather than giving the party an advantage, and wastes strategically precious nominating votes from his allies. On the other hand, it doesn&#8217;t seem especially important to explicitly allow refusal, either. For most of American history, political parties contained no provision allowing candidates to refuse nomination. (Thus, Sherman had to insist that he would refuse both nomination <em>and</em> election; they could still make him the nominee even if he didn&#8217;t accept it!) The GOP still doesn&#8217;t have a provision for refusal in <a href="https://prod-static.gop.com/media/Rules_Of_The_Republican_Party.pdf">its party rules</a>. The Democrats do (<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20240725070752/https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Permanent-Convention-Rules-as-approved.docx.pdf">Rule C.4a</a>: &#8220;have attached thereto the approval of the candidate&#8221;), but I think they only added this in 2024, during <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/final-update-dnc-convention-rules">the post-Biden chaos</a>, in order to ensure any incipient party civil wars would at least have leadership (and, yes, this helped lock things down for Harris).</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-20" href="#footnote-anchor-20" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">20</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The proposal requires all ballots to be fully ranked, with no &#8220;bullet ballots.&#8221; As I explained in the <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/166133934/no-bullet-ballots">middle of Part II</a>:</p><blockquote><p>Many ranked-choice voting systems are defeated by a tactic called the &#8220;bullet ballot,&#8221; where the voter only ranks their top choice, leaving the rest of the ballot blank. This encourages all sorts of tactical mischief that prevents the consensus candidate from being identified. Major-party candidates <em>love</em> when their supporters cast bullet ballots, because they are confident that they <em>won&#8217;t</em> be eliminated in early rounds, and bullet ballots lower the majority threshold needed to win in later rounds, magnifying the power of an early lead.</p><p>Fortunately, the remedy is simple: make bullet ballots invalid.</p><p>You cannot, practically speaking, do this in large general elections, because voters simply don&#8217;t follow directions and you&#8217;d end up with tons of invalid ballots. However, it&#8217;s easy to implement in <em>this</em> election, with fewer than a hundred voters, all well-informed. In fact, many state and local political parties already <em>have</em> rules against bullet ballots in internal elections, so legislators know what a bullet ballot is and are used to not casting them.</p></blockquote></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-21" href="#footnote-anchor-21" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">21</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>In a previous iteration of this proposal, this problem led me to abandon open nominations altogether and replace it with a complicated algorithm called DW-NOMINATE! You, the readers, did not like that.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-22" href="#footnote-anchor-22" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">22</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em><strong>Section 3 (cont.).</strong></em> <em>Then, the body shall immediately vote by secret, ranked ballot. Any ballot that does not rank all candidates shall be invalid. Each ballot may separately veto up to one candidate. A ballot with more than one veto shall be valid, but all its vetoes shall be deemed void. </em></p><p><em>Any candidate receiving a total number of vetoes greater than or equal to the number of valid ballots cast divided by seven-tenths the number of candidates shall be deemed eliminated.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-23" href="#footnote-anchor-23" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">23</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Amendments like this are necessarily blind to political parties. That is, we can&#8217;t just say, &#8220;The minority party gets one veto.&#8221; If we did, then a few members of the majority party would immediately split off to form their own, fake party caucus. They would then be &#8220;the minority party&#8221; (updating local rules as needed), and &#8220;steal&#8221; the veto. Besides, Nebraska&#8217;s Unicameral is officially nonpartisan.</p><p>Party-identification stuff simply cannot be managed by constitutional amendment, not least because party identification is so fluid throughout American history. The Constitution must be <em>aware</em> of political parties, but cannot <em>depend</em> on local political parties turning up in any specific configuration.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-24" href="#footnote-anchor-24" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">24</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Well, 6.2, but, since you can&#8217;t have fractions of a vote in this system, it is effectively 7.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-25" href="#footnote-anchor-25" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">25</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8220;Sizable&#8221; here means &#8220;they control at least a third of the seats.&#8221;</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-26" href="#footnote-anchor-26" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">26</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I think the carrot is important. </p><p>After all, it is possible to set the veto threshold even lower, so that the body has the collective power to veto every candidate but one. (The language for this would be, &#8220;Any candidate receiving a total number of vetoes greater than or equal to the number of valid ballots cast divided by one less than the number of candidates shall be deemed eliminated.&#8221; The &#8220;one less&#8221; prevents <em>all</em> candidates from being vetoed.) </p><p>This would be functionally very similar to Gilbert&#8217;s clarified proposal from the comments on Part III, which used single transferable votes to &#8220;elect&#8221; every state senator, except one, to an &#8220;exclusion panel.&#8221; My approach, which uses a single veto rather than full rankings, is pretty nearly functionally equivalent, assuming parties coordinate their vetoes effectively. This is a trade-off, because my approach loses Gilbert&#8217;s elegant handling of fractional votes, but avoids the wordiness of explaining the transferable-vote veto process, the bizarre &#8220;<a href="http://zesty.ca/voting/sim/">random selection</a>&#8221; effects inherent to Hare voting, and the practical burden of counting ballots that rank the entire state senate (up to sixty-seven people) rather than a limited group of no more than ten nominees. </p><p>Either way, though, both Gilbert&#8217;s approach and my approach can get us to a place where the body vetoes every nominee <em>except one</em>, who is presumably the &#8220;least-hated&#8221; candidate and therefore wins. Isn&#8217;t this desirable? Aren&#8217;t we looking for <em>precisely</em> the most broadly-acceptable candidate, in lieu of whichever nominee the largest party can ram through on a raw majority vote?</p><p>The fatal flaw with this&#8212;well, no, &#8220;fatal flaw&#8221; is too strongly put. The <em>difficulty</em> with this comes at the nomination step. The majority party will, in general, be able to nominate and veto more candidates than the minority. If every candidate but one is being vetoed, the majority can reliably veto every candidate put forward by the minority party, and then it effectively controls the list of surviving nominees. It can ensure that its preferred candidate will win simply by putting forward several outrageously less acceptable candidates, leaving the minority with a choice between the majority&#8217;s preferred candidate and some lunatic. If, on the other hand, the majority tries a similar tactic, but we can ensure that at least one minority candidate survives to a preference vote, the minority has a chance to make the election between some lunatic and some reasonable compromise candidate, which may very well draw off votes from the majority party to elect the compromise.</p><p>Gilbert&#8217;s method avoids this problem (to a great extent) by nominating <em>every</em> member of the state senate in the contingent election. If there&#8217;s no nomination step, the majority can&#8217;t do the first step in this two-step manipulation process. This is a worthy idea, but, as with any voting system, there are trade-offs: mechanically, the ranked-choice ballot is very long and unwieldy to count; tactically, requiring all nominees to come from within the state senate limits possible compromise options from outside the state senate; and, <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-623252696/places-of-worship?in=user-623252696/sets/civilization-iv-george-w-bush-spoof-ad-campaign-circa-2003">stratelegically</a>, this rule would encourage party primary voters to elect more ideologically extreme candidates in safe seats (as if they needed any more encouragement) as a way of indirectly accomplishing the first step in the two-step anyway. Again, none of these problems are fatal. They&#8217;re just problems. My alternative approach has problems of its own, because every election system comes with problems (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow%27s_impossibility_theorem">no exceptions</a>). As we&#8217;ll see in the final section, I think Gilbert-style variants with more vetoes are worth considering at an Article V convention.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-27" href="#footnote-anchor-27" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">27</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Two-thirds is just a rule of thumb. In reality, it varies a great deal based on the size of the house, the number of nominees, and the degree of cooperation across parties in coordinating vetoes. The &#8220;seven-tenths&#8221; rule in the amendment means that, in practice, if all goes exactly right, a chamber with a round number of members and perfect bipartisan coordination could see seven out of ten nominees vetoed, or 70%. In reality, the maximum veto tends to wander around between 57% and 65%, depending on house size and number of nominees. Beyond that, if members refuse to cooperate across party lines (they probably will refuse!), or if parties aren&#8217;t maximally disciplined, or make mistakes, the actual veto ratio ends up a little lower.</p><p>If the chamber ends up nominating a small, even number of candidates (mainly 2 or 4), the maximum veto will be 50%. In a 4-candidate race, that usually means each party can veto exactly one of the other party&#8217;s candidates. However, as we have already seen, the minority party usually has both the power and the incentives to force more nominations than that.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-28" href="#footnote-anchor-28" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">28</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>A canny minority will nominate enough sensible moderates to ensure one of them survives the veto round. I suggest nominating the most moderate members of the majority party available, to make the choice as tough as possible on the majority! If the minority fails to do this, then their refusal to compromise may cost them all the leverage this amendment tried to give them. You can bring a donkey to water (or an elephant), but the Constitution can&#8217;t make them drink.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-29" href="#footnote-anchor-29" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">29</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em><strong>Section 3 (cont.). </strong>Of remaining candidates, if one candidate defeats all others head-to-head, that candidate shall be elected. </em></p><p>[That sentence is the Condorcet rule. Nice and simple. Everything in the following paragraph describes the tiebreak mechanism, which is only invoked in rare conditions anyway.]</p><p><em>Otherwise, the smallest set of candidates shall be identified, such that each candidate in the set defeats every candidate outside the set head-to-head. The candidate with the fewest highest-ranked votes who is not in that set shall be eliminated. If there is now a single candidate who defeats all others head-to-head, that candidate shall be elected. Otherwise, candidates shall be eliminated in this way until a candidate is elected, eliminating candidates in the set only if all other candidates have already been eliminated. Exact ties shall be broken by lot.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-30" href="#footnote-anchor-30" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">30</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Remember, this was all done on one ballot. Doing it all at once prevents the majority from coordinating between rounds, which would give them more leverage and may allow them to nominate recklessly. This isn't the hell I would die on, but I think it's a better approach than separating the veto and voting rounds into separate ballots.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-31" href="#footnote-anchor-31" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">31</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8220;Least popular&#8221; here means the candidate with the fewest first-choice votes on the ranked ballots. Benham&#8217;s method eliminates candidates outside the tie before eliminating any of the candidates involved in the tie (the &#8220;Smith set&#8221;). This is a form of Hare/Instant Runoff Voting, which is really not <em>much </em>better than drawing lots (the usual method for resolving ties in elections), but it is still <em>somewhat </em>better than drawing lots, so we may as well use it.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-32" href="#footnote-anchor-32" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">32</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>One interesting property of this proposed system is that it lacks virtually every mathematical property voting nerds desire in a voting system. Instead, it attempts compromises between most of them. For example, it fails clone immunity, allowing the parties to predictably manipulate outcomes (to some extent) by nominating multiple very similar candidates (or &#8220;clones&#8221;). This is a big deal, and it&#8217;s what causes Bucklin Voting to fail so spectacularly. The proposal makes up for its lack of clone immunity by using vetoes&#8230; but the vetoes cause it to fail the Condorcet winner and Smith set criteria! Its inclusion of Hare-IRV tallies as a tiebreak means it fails all kinds of monotonicity criteria. The list of failed properties goes on!</p><p>One must, unfortunately, not get hung up on mathematical perfections when dealing with anything as messy and rough-hewn as defining rules for human political struggles.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-33" href="#footnote-anchor-33" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">33</a><div class="footnote-content"><h3>Some Example Contingent Elections</h3><p>Imagine the legislators in a legislature were numbered from the most extreme member of the majority to the most extreme member of the minority. </p><p>So, in a 45-member state senate, Legislator #1 is the majority&#8217;s top extremist, Legislator #45 is the fire-breather for the minority, and Legislator #23 is the median legislator. Further imagine that each legislator has a distinct preference for U.S. Senate candidate, either himself or someone in perfect ideological alignment with him. This is an enormous conceit, but a useful one.</p><h4>The Normal Election</h4><p>Consider a 38-person legislature where the majority has 21 seats (55%) and the minority has 17 seats. The median legislators are #20 and #21, the most moderate members of the majority. </p><p>The majority naturally prefers #12, the center of the party, but #9 won their party primary and is officially their candidate. The minority prefers #34, which, lol, isn&#8217;t going to happen. The majority&#8217;s different factions nominate #2, #9, #12, and #19. The minority puts forward #21, #33, and #34.</p><p>They vote. With 38 votes and 7 nominees, the veto threshold = 38/(7*0.7) = 7.96, which must round up to 8. With 17 seats, the minority can veto 2 candidates, so they take out #2 and #9. The majority also has 2 vetoes between them, and eliminate both of the extreme candidates, #33 and #34. When the dust settles, the only candidates left standing are #12, #19, and #21. Most of the majority has ranked these #12 &gt; #19 &gt; #21, but #19 secretly ranked herself higher (#19 &gt; #21 &gt; #12) and so did #21 (#21 &gt; #19 &gt; #12). The entire minority ranks #21 &gt; #19 &gt; #12. That means #19 beats all comers: she defeats #12 (20 votes to 19) and beats #21 (21 votes to 18). #19 is the winner.</p><p>The majority&#8217;s primary winner was defeated, and its internal partisan preference was also defeated. The winner sat very close to the chamber&#8217;s true center, in the moderate wing of the majority party. Of course, the outcome depended on two members of that moderate wing deciding to defect, choosing their own self-interest and ideological alignment over party loyalty. It helped that they were in a position where they couldn&#8217;t be effectively punished for defecting and they could not be accused of undermining the party&#8217;s &#8220;official&#8221; nominee (who had already been vetoed out).</p><h4>More Tactical Veto</h4><p>However, what if, instead of vetoing the more extreme minority-party candidates, the majority had instead decided to use its veto power to nuke the plausible compromises? They might just as easily have vetoed #19 and #21 instead of #33 and #34, leaving the final field #12, #33, and #34. Had they done so, #12 would have very likely won the day; #19 no longer gets to vote for herself, and #33 is probably too extreme for #21, so their votes both go to #12, who beats both #33 and #34 on a party-line 21-18 vote.</p><p>For this reason, it is strategically critical for the minority party to use all its available nominations on plausible compromise candidates. If they waste precious nomination slots on vanity candidates who can&#8217;t win, the majority can (often) easily flex its muscles to ensure its preferred extremist gets into office.</p><h4>Majority Party Dominates</h4><p>Consider a 20-person legislature where the majority has 16 seats (80%). They really should have elected a consensus candidate under Section Two, but failed.</p><p>The majority&#8217;s preference is for Legislator #9 or his nominee, since #9 is dead center of their caucus. The ideological center of the chamber is very close to that! (It&#8217;s Legislator #11.) Because the majority is so large, its center and the true center nearly line up. </p><p>The tiny minority would obviously prefer someone like #19, but, recognizing that this will never fly, they instead nominate #16 (a Susan Collins-type moderate) and #13 (who is close to the center but juuuust on their side of it). The majority has tons of nominating power and its various factions nominate #1, #4, #5, #9, #10, #12, #14, and #15.</p><p>They vote. With 20 votes and 10 nominees, the veto threshold = 20/(10*0.7) = 2.86. Since no one can cast a fractional vote, this rounds up to 3. The minority has only 4 members, so they can only guarantee one veto. They use it to take out #9, the majority&#8217;s preferred candidate. The majority&#8217;s partisan flank vetoes the most moderate candidates, #15 and #16. The majority&#8217;s moderate flank vetoes the most partisan candidates, #1, #4, and #5. When the dust settles, the only candidates left standing are #10, #12, #13, and #14.</p><p>Of those candidates, half the chamber (#1-#11) prefers #10 over all comers, so #10 is elected. The majority party&#8217;s preferred pick, #9, did not win (although they had the votes to elect her in the consensus round), but everyone ends up pretty happy: the ultimate winner, #10, sits right between the center of the majority (#9) and the center of the house (#11).</p><h4>Blockade Backfire</h4><p>Consider a 1000-person legislature where the majority controls 640 seats (64%). The majority has rallied behind a primary winner who is ideologically aligned with #251, well outside the state&#8217;s median and fairly extreme even by party standards. However, the minority implacably refuses to support #251, and the majority refuses to offer an acceptable compromise, so the consensus election fails by just a few dozen votes. They are forced to the contingent election. </p><p>In order to prevent the minority from vetoing their first and only preference, the majority nominates #251 alone, aiming to jack up the veto threshold so the minority can&#8217;t <em>quite</em> veto him. The minority gets wind of this plan and sees an opportunity to exploit the situation. They rally their voters to nominate #753, #900, and #943. (Since the nomination threshold is 100 and the minority only holds 360 seats, this is the best they can do.) <em>All</em> of these nominees are well outside the state&#8217;s median.</p><p>They vote. With 1000 votes and just 4 nominees, the veto threshold = 1000/(4*0.7) = 357.14 &#8594; 358. That&#8217;s still enough for the minority to act, though! The minority unanimously vetoes #251, knocking him out. The majority also only has one veto (because there were way too few nominees), which they expend on #943. Excess members on both sides attempt to veto various other candidates, but can&#8217;t reach the threshold. Now the only remaining candidates are #753 and #900. Both are fairly far-out members of the minority. In the Condorcet voting, the majority easily and overwhelmingly elects #753, but their attempt to rig the system in their favor has resulted in an opposition candidate winning instead.</p><h4>Blockade Successful</h4><p>However, what if the majority had had just 20 more seats, dominating the chamber 665-335? That falls <em>just</em> short of the two-thirds threshold. In that case, the majority strategy would have worked much better. By nominating #251 alone, while knowing that the minority doesn&#8217;t have the votes to nominate more than three nominees of its own, the majority guarantees the veto threshold will be at least 358, which is more seats than the minority controls. Unless the minority can win some support from within the majority, #251 will survive the veto round. The minority&#8217;s only chance here is to nominate three reasonably attractive candidates within the majority caucus (perhaps #500, #659, and #550) and hope they can persuade the edges of the majority party that #251 is too extreme for the state. Thanks to the secret ballot, they might well succeed! However, as the chamber tilts very close to the critical two-thirds threshold, the minority party begins to lose its leverage very quickly. This is as it should be, of course, but the cutoff can be pretty sharp.</p><h4>Partisan Civil War</h4><p>Consider a 435-member house where the majority party controls 222 seats (51%). However, the majority party is riven by internal conflict and unable to arrive at a consensus candidate, finding themselves divided between #35, #111, and #220. (<em>You</em> might call #35 &#8220;Jim Jordan,&#8221; but I couldn&#8217;t possibly comment.) To protect themselves from premature elimination, the opposite sides of the partisan infighting also nominate #36 and #219.</p><p>The minority, amused, nominates their leader, #375, but they do really want to keep #35 out, and they&#8217;d love to block #111 as well, so they nominate some attractive centrist types: #223, #222, and (due to a lack of cross-party communication) they <em>also</em> nominate #219.</p><p>They vote. With 435 votes and 8 nominees, the veto threshold = 435/(8*0.7) = 77.67 &#8594; 78. Both sides have enough juice for two vetoes, but the majority is too busy with its civil war to coordinate effectively. The moderate faction of the majority vetoes #35. The extreme faction vetoes #220. The center of the majority party (your basic conservative types) doesn&#8217;t have the numbers or the coordination to veto anything, but scatters their vetoes around to various targets, which could help another faction pull off a veto. Thanks to that assist, the minority (which wasn&#8217;t sure whether to veto #35 or #36 and ends up allocating a view vetoes to each) is able to knock out #36 and #111.</p><p>This leaves only #219, #220, #222 from the majority party, and #223 and #375 from the minority. #375 gets the first-choice vote from nearly the entire minority, but (of the survivors) is the last choice of the entire majority. It ends up a close race between #219, #220, and #222, all very similar members of the majority party who reside close to the ideological center. Each of them beats #223 and #375 head-to-head thanks to the majority party&#8217;s backing, but there are some voting cycles between them, and it ends up effectively tied. Benham&#8217;s Method eliminates #223, but this doesn&#8217;t break the cycles, so then it eliminates #375. This does break the cycles. #222, the most moderate member of the majority party, wins the contingent election and becomes the next senator from this mysterious state senate that certainly isn&#8217;t a stand-in for anything.</p><h3>&#8230;And Millions More!</h3><p>During the feverish days of exploring this system, I vibe-coded, and then greatly refined, a Python script to simulate elections under it. I&#8217;ve uploaded the script to my server as <a href="https://jamesjheaney.com/jjh_uploads/election_sim2.py.txt">election_sim2.py</a>, where you can download it for yourself. </p><p>Execute simply by renaming the file &#8220;election_sim2.py&#8221; (no &#8220;.txt&#8221;), installing Python, opening a command prompt or terminal window in the directory where you downloaded the file, and typing &#8220;py election_sim2.py&#8221;.</p><p>Be warned, though: the script currently embeds a lot of assumptions about how political parties will behave. (It also treats the veto as the lowest-ranked preference vote, rather than as a separate document, because that&#8217;s the method I was originally considering.) </p><p><em>Because of those assumptions</em>, the moderate candidate nearly always wins. What you will want to investigate, as you play around with it the same way I did for six days, are the <em>weird</em> cases, the outliers where Legislator #3 won or whatever. Why is <em>that</em> happening? Is it because one of the parties made a clear tactical error&#8230; or is it because one of the parties has found an inherent weakness in the system that it can exploit to elect extremists? If you embed <em>that </em>behavior into the system, does the majority party suddenly start winning with non-median candidates? I ran millions of sims, and looked at hundreds of them with my eyeballs, and the answer was always &#8220;no, one of the parties simply made a tactical error,&#8221; but the sim is a very imperfect model, so you should regard it only as a tool for exploring the strengths and weaknesses of the system, not proof that it works as intended.</p><p><a href="https://jamesjheaney.com/jjh_uploads/election_sim2.py.txt">https://jamesjheaney.com/jjh_uploads/election_sim2.py.txt</a> </p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-34" href="#footnote-anchor-34" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">34</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em><strong>Section 4. </strong>Any pledge, vow, oath, or any other commitment by a Senate elector regarding his votes to nominate or elect a U.S. Senator shall be null, void, and utterly without force from the moment it is made (excepting her oath to this Constitution and her state&#8217;s Constitution), and no Senate elector may be compelled to make any such commitment. Any instruction, advice, or requirement laid upon an elector regarding same, outside the provisions of this Constitution, shall be likewise null and void.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-35" href="#footnote-anchor-35" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">35</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em><strong>Section 5.</strong> The seventeenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed. This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid as part of the Constitution.</em></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-36" href="#footnote-anchor-36" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">36</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Although the other amendment I proposed, shrinking the Senate, may well have that effect! Amendment proposals must be considered independent in case one is passed and the other is not, or they are ratified at very different times.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[I've Got Plenty To Be Thankful For]]></title><description><![CDATA[State-of-the-Blog on Our 4th Substackiversary (Plus: an AI Reassurance)]]></description><link>https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/ive-got-plenty-to-be-thankful-for</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/ive-got-plenty-to-be-thankful-for</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[James J. Heaney]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2025 15:05:36 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/youtube/w_728,c_limit/tDDIGIGios0" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="youtube2-tDDIGIGios0" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;tDDIGIGios0&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/tDDIGIGios0?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>I always intended to write those cute annual &#8220;state of the blog&#8221; posts. They&#8217;re kinda inside-baseball to many readers, but I think sharing information is really valuable to other <em>writers</em>, especially other writers on Substack. It&#8217;s like an office team that shares salary information before negotiating raises with management: it&#8217;s a little uncomfortable for everyone, but it also strengthens everyone during the actual negotiation.</p><p>Somehow, though, I never got around to actually <em>writing</em> a &#8220;state of the blog&#8221;&#8230;until now! This Thanksgiving weekend is <em>De Civ&#8217;</em>s fourth anniversary on Substack, and, since we passed a subscription milestone yesterday, it&#8217;s as good a time as any to pop open the hood and show you, the readers, what I see when I wake up to <em>De Civitate</em> every morning.</p><h2>The Wordpress Era</h2><p><em>De Civitate</em> launched on 30 January 2012 on Wordpress. I was fresh out of college, not yet engaged to my now-wife. My goal, as I now remember it, was twofold:</p><ol><li><p>I had a lot of commentary bursting out of me, and I wanted to have an outlet for it other than Facebook. Even in 2012, we all knew Facebook was bad. I wrote things to be read, and I wanted it read by more than a handful of friends. I also wanted to stop poisoning my apolitical friends&#8217; feeds with my political nonsense.</p></li><li><p>I wanted my new blog to earn $1,200 over four years. I wanted this for personal validation, because I believed a writer is <em>not</em> a writer if he isn&#8217;t being paid for his words. I had just purchased an $1,200 gaming PC, and I assumed I would want to replace it in a few years, and I thought this was a realistic revenue target using Google Ad Services and some tasteful banner placements. Of course, I was young and rich. I earned $54,000/year<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> and had no dependents, so I was planning to buy the new computer in four years regardless of how my blog performed.</p></li></ol><p>My first post was a <a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2012/01/20/a-little-politics-to-start/">statement of principles</a>. It took itself much too seriously,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> but I don&#8217;t hate rereading it, either. I published <strong>311 articles</strong> over the next decade, many of them <a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2020/03/03/a-bye-ku-for-thomas-tom-steyer/">quite short</a>, for a total of <strong>485,169 words</strong>&#8212;approximately the same length as David Foster Wallace&#8217;s <em>Infinite Jest</em>. The vast majority of my audience was still Facebook friends. A few found their way to <em>De Civ</em> organically, but there was no way to know how many. (Perhaps two dozen?) Of course, a big thanks to the O.G. <em>De Civvers</em> who&#8217;ve followed me since Wordpress!</p><p>Wordpress was a hacker&#8217;s paradise, but, over time, it became an obstacle to writing. It had no built-in comments system, and adding a comment system (without giving free rein to spambots) turned out to be a part-time job I didn&#8217;t have time to do. Offloading to Disqus worked sort of okay for a little while, then a software update broke it completely, and we spent the last year on Wordpress with no functioning comment system. This was miserable. Even when I can&#8217;t find the time to respond to every comment, I <em>read</em> all of them, and treasure the fact that someone read something I wrote and took the time to reply to it. Now I had no comments at all.</p><p>Meanwhile, my customizations to the Wordpress template started to show their age, Wordpress couldn&#8217;t really handle subscriptions or an email list, and I didn&#8217;t have time to deal with any of it. Google ad revenue remained stubbornly at $0. Technically, I earned $50.56 over a decade, largely on the strength of my <a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2013/03/13/no-it-is-not-illegal-to-marry-a-virgin-in-guam/">two</a> viral <a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2014/09/15/why-free-marketeers-want-to-regulate-the-internet/">articles</a>, but Google raised its payout threshold every time I got close to it, so I never saw a dime. When Wordpress&#8217;s default editor got dramatically worse, forcing me to add a new &#8220;block&#8221; to a page every time I wanted to add a paragraph (and forget about captioned images), it pushed me over the edge. I will always love Wordpress (it&#8217;s free and open source!), but I couldn&#8217;t live with it anymore. </p><p>Then I found out that Substack had a footnote tool,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> and my fate was sealed.</p><h2>The Substack Era</h2><p><em>O</em>n December 1, 2021, <a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2021/12/01/my-new-substack-but-you-can-still-get-the-milk-for-free/">I announced</a> that <em>De Civitate</em> had moved to Substack. I set my sights downward this time. Instead of $1,200 in four years, I aimed for $1,200 in ten years... but I still didn&#8217;t really expect to get there. I was just going to use my goal as a measuring stick in <em><a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/playing-predictit-day-534-liz-cheney">Playing PredictIt</a></em>. Ten years blogging had taught me to expect neither audience nor money.</p><p>So what a pleasant surprise this has actually been:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FZm_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe315c461-e94b-4431-bb7f-ea746948df36_870x557.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FZm_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe315c461-e94b-4431-bb7f-ea746948df36_870x557.png 424w, 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FZm_!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe315c461-e94b-4431-bb7f-ea746948df36_870x557.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FZm_!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe315c461-e94b-4431-bb7f-ea746948df36_870x557.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FZm_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe315c461-e94b-4431-bb7f-ea746948df36_870x557.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FZm_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe315c461-e94b-4431-bb7f-ea746948df36_870x557.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>We hit 400 total subscribers on Thanksgiving morning, a milestone by any measure!</p><p>We&#8217;ve had some <em>terrific</em> comment threads here, beyond the dreams of my Wordpress. &#8220;<a href="https://decivitate.substack.com/p/take-ing-on-the-new-administration">Take-ing on the New Administration</a>,&#8221; from this spring, wins the prize, with 58 comments, but I&#8217;ve really enjoyed getting to know the regulars across many posts. This alone made the move worthwhile.</p><p>Fueled by the knowledge that <em>several people</em> are <em>actually reading</em> what I&#8217;m writing (and some of them are even <em>paying </em>me for it!), I&#8217;ve been writing a whole lot more, too! </p><p>I&#8217;ve posted <strong>168 new articles</strong> to <em>De Civ</em> in the last four years, and I have not spared the keyboard: they added up to <strong>982,219 words</strong>. That is roughly the same length as all seven Harry Potter books combined. (Yes, even <em>Order of the Phoenix</em>.) It&#8217;s also twice as many words as I wrote on Wordpress&#8230; and I wrote &#8216;em in less than half the time!</p><p>It was easy to find the motivation to type so much, because I reached my original financial goal on the <em>second day</em> of this Substack:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gZQ9!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03cbe6f9-5efe-4085-a0b3-83cf2d5542de_873x564.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gZQ9!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03cbe6f9-5efe-4085-a0b3-83cf2d5542de_873x564.png 424w, 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This is an incredible chart.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> It ticked over $2k this weekend,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> which is what got me to take a close look at it for the first time in months.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a></p><p>Every time I see that &#8220;Gross annualized revenue&#8221; number go up, I feel an immediate, urgent need to drop whatever I&#8217;m doing and write <em>something</em> for the good people of the paylist. My writing output has quadrupled since the move to Substack, even as my actual free time has shrunk an awful lot. I think that&#8217;s entirely thanks to the good people of the paylist, and the obligation I feel toward each of them. Give them some love when you get the chance.</p><p>Of course, it&#8217;s been a long time since I was young and rich. None of this money has gone to my gaming rig.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a> In fact, my rig is the same machine I bought way back in 2011 (although it has ship-of-Theseused its way into continuing value). Instead of buying coolers and mobos, <em>De Civ</em>&#8217;s Substack revenues mostly go to groceries and parochial school tuition, though it also helps a lot with my family&#8217;s annual trip to our <a href="https://eaglesnestnisswa.com/">favorite Minnesota cabin resort</a>. We are <em>all</em> very grateful for that.</p><p>The other reason this chart is incredible is because it shows the loyalty and generosity of the <em>De Civitate</em> readership. Most Substacks that &#8220;go paid&#8221; expect to &#8220;convert&#8221; 2-4% of their subscribers to the paylist. This is a well-known figure in wide circulation, and I have frequently confirmed it by anecdote. Yet fully <em>10% of De Civitate&#8217;s readers pay for it?!</em> I&#8217;ve never heard of this, except in tiny blogs read only by the writer&#8217;s family. You are a nifty bunch of people. You are, in fact, so nifty that your niftiness is statistically anomalous.</p><h2><a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-623252696/what-does-the-future-hold?in=user-623252696/sets/h2g2&amp;si=00d2ed21c7344fa8ae4c9292b9f66cc0&amp;utm_source=clipboard&amp;utm_medium=text&amp;utm_campaign=social_sharing">What Does the Future Hold?</a></h2><p>Will I still be here in ten years? I hope so. The rise of LLMs is already sandblasting this field. People at the <em>New York Times</em> and whatnot are still honestly asking one another, &#8220;In a few years, are people going to be willing to read articles written by an LLM?&#8221; but, gurl, there&#8217;s a healthy number of Substacks <em>much</em> larger than mine that are <em>already</em> written largely or entirely by AI. I&#8217;m not going to do that. If the only way to keep my blog from falling into irrelevance and extinction is handing the keys to ChatGPT, guess I&#8217;ll die.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Z_HU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9416df01-64fe-44bb-858a-0e3458334b70_553x451.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Z_HU!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9416df01-64fe-44bb-858a-0e3458334b70_553x451.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Z_HU!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9416df01-64fe-44bb-858a-0e3458334b70_553x451.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Z_HU!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9416df01-64fe-44bb-858a-0e3458334b70_553x451.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Z_HU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9416df01-64fe-44bb-858a-0e3458334b70_553x451.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Z_HU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9416df01-64fe-44bb-858a-0e3458334b70_553x451.png" width="369" height="300.9385171790235" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9416df01-64fe-44bb-858a-0e3458334b70_553x451.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:451,&quot;width&quot;:553,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:369,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Z_HU!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9416df01-64fe-44bb-858a-0e3458334b70_553x451.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Z_HU!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9416df01-64fe-44bb-858a-0e3458334b70_553x451.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Z_HU!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9416df01-64fe-44bb-858a-0e3458334b70_553x451.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Z_HU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9416df01-64fe-44bb-858a-0e3458334b70_553x451.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>I&#8217;m not against LLMs in general. I use them often. LLMs translate documents for me, both for publication at <em>De Civ</em> and casually. They scan documentation for me. They solve trivial to moderate code problems for me&#8230; which, yes, does make me nervous about my day job as a programmer! LLMs perform complicated web searches for me (better than Google!), and an LLM recommended the last roast beef cut I purchased (to accolades from my tongue). Their environmental impact is <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/179431187/using-chatgpt-is-not-bad-for-the-environment-a-cheat-sheet-by-andy-masley">wildly exaggerated</a>. For <em>De Civ</em>, I sometimes use LLMs for proofreading<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a> and for image generation (always with credit). Also, because LLMs are, fundamentally, conventional-wisdom generators, sometimes I run ideas by an LLM to find out what the conventional wisdom would say about them. (LLM necessary because Ezra Klein no longer accepts my calls.) </p><p>But the actual thinking and writing? If I outsource <em>that</em> to an LLM, what am I doing here? What would be the point of me? If I ever go <em>there</em>, cut out the middleman! Unsub from <em>De Civ</em>, put that money toward a GPT+ subscription, feed it my entire corpus, and instruct it to write a post in my voice once every twelve hours for the rest of your life. Fortunately, my voice is so far distinctive enough (and obscure enough) that the robots&#8217; attempts at replicating it are <a href="https://chatgpt.com/share/692aa0f2-ea08-8011-a7ed-8cba0268868e">boring and shopworn</a>.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a> If I ever do use an LLM to generate text in a post, I&#8217;ll mark it clearly&#8230; and I&#8217;d better have a good reason for it!</p><p>So, will <em>De Civ</em> survive what is coming? Maybe, maybe not. But, as Captain Picard once said:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dVk8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4c83e86-9e1b-4b9d-94e2-405736dd83f8_640x480.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dVk8!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4c83e86-9e1b-4b9d-94e2-405736dd83f8_640x480.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dVk8!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4c83e86-9e1b-4b9d-94e2-405736dd83f8_640x480.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dVk8!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4c83e86-9e1b-4b9d-94e2-405736dd83f8_640x480.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dVk8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4c83e86-9e1b-4b9d-94e2-405736dd83f8_640x480.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dVk8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4c83e86-9e1b-4b9d-94e2-405736dd83f8_640x480.jpeg" width="640" height="480" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f4c83e86-9e1b-4b9d-94e2-405736dd83f8_640x480.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:480,&quot;width&quot;:640,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:77889,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;If we&#8217;re going to be damned, let&#8217;s be damned for what we really are!&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/180204987?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4c83e86-9e1b-4b9d-94e2-405736dd83f8_640x480.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="If we&#8217;re going to be damned, let&#8217;s be damned for what we really are!" title="If we&#8217;re going to be damned, let&#8217;s be damned for what we really are!" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dVk8!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4c83e86-9e1b-4b9d-94e2-405736dd83f8_640x480.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dVk8!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4c83e86-9e1b-4b9d-94e2-405736dd83f8_640x480.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dVk8!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4c83e86-9e1b-4b9d-94e2-405736dd83f8_640x480.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dVk8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4c83e86-9e1b-4b9d-94e2-405736dd83f8_640x480.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Assuming no AI singularity/extinction event, though, I&#8217;ll probably still be here. I&#8217;m pessimistic about the future of the United States, but, even if things go very fast and the country falls apart by 2035, the Internet will almost certainly survive. So, therefore, will this blog. It will probably always be a part-time endeavor, even if it gets large enough to replace my day job,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a> because I have noticed lately that part-time opinion writers who transition to full-timers tend to undergo audience capture and completely lose their minds. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin">Many</a> <a href="https://tuckercarlson.com/">such</a> <a href="https://pintswithaquinas.com/">cases</a>.</p><p>I admit that I&#8217;ve been a little bit bothered by Substack&#8217;s direction over the past few years. They&#8217;ve really been re-gearing toward being another social media company, rather than supporting my newsletter. They&#8217;ve also cut a lot of human support. (When I started out, you could just file a bug report and get a response in a few days! Impossible now.) However, the people jumping ship for Beehiiv and whatnot are invariably the most annoying people alive, and the new services don&#8217;t seem to be actually better than Substack at anything, so I don&#8217;t see a switch anywhere on the horizon. My biggest long-term worry is that Substack could collapse or become censorious, like so many other web hosting businesses. However, if that day ever comes, I&#8217;ve got copies of all my posts (and all your email addresses) and can easily migrate back to Wordpress. I also wonder whether the current Substack pricing model is sustainable. It may be that, in a few years, we&#8217;ll all be trying to find other Substack writers to &#8220;bundle up&#8221; with (in order to deliver lower subscription costs to readers), and I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;m up to that brave new world, should it ever come.</p><p>All in all, though, I am very happy with how things are going here, far happier than I expected to be four years ago, and so I intend to continue more or less as I have been: some politics, some Catholicism, some pro-liferism,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a> some miscellaneous other stuff, and, when a legal case catches me in just the right way (<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/roundup-mnscotus-disqualification">happens</a> about <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/final-update-dnc-convention-rules">once</a> a <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/how-the-minnesota-stalemate-ended">year</a>), a pathological fixation on it to the exclusion of all else. </p><p>I hope you&#8217;re happy with the state of this blogletter (I&#8217;d like to hear about it if you&#8217;re not!), but I&#8217;m having a blast, and a critical mass of you seem to be having a great time, too. 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>De Civitate</em> is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p><em><strong>De Civ Next Voyage: </strong>My next&#8212;hopefully last :)&#8212;article on amending the Constitution to fix the Senate is already written and queued for next week. I'm not counting this navel-gazing post toward my word count quota!</em></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>That&#8217;s $76,000/year in today&#8217;s dollars, and beat the crap out of what my many ex-seminarian friends were finding in the post-Recession wasteland.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>There&#8217;s a lot of cringe in early <em>De Civ</em>, at least for me.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>For an example of the maddening lengths I went to for footnotes on Wordpress, see the footnotes to &#8220;<a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2015/06/26/civil-marriage-is-dead-it-deserved-to-die/">Civil Marriage is Dead (and It Deserved to Die)</a>.&#8221; Every one of those footnotes was lovingly&#8212;and slowly&#8212;hand-coded to pair with hand-inserted anchor tags. It sucked, often broke, and so a lot of things that appear today in <em>De Civ</em> footnotes would either appear in lengthy parentheticals (a large portion of the opening of &#8220;<a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2020/08/23/and-the-war-came/">And The War Came</a>&#8221; should have been a footnote) or I just deleted them because there was nowhere to put them. Substack, your footnote tool is golden.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I knew that Worthy Reads drove subscriptions, because you notice these things when they happen, but I didn&#8217;t realize how <em>much</em> certain editions drove subscriptions until I sat down with this chart tonight. I wonder why? &#8220;<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/worthy-reads-small-apocalypses">Small Apocalypses</a>&#8221; was good, but so was &#8220;<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/worthy-reads-wake-up-and-smell-the">Wake Up and Smell the Ashes</a>,&#8221; which moved bupkis. These are the little mysteries I ponder sometimes, until I remember I don&#8217;t understand anything about marketing and just go back to writing whatever I want&#8212;which seems to be working!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Jake, I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ve ever spoken, and I&#8217;m not tagging you because I sense you value your privacy. However, if you&#8217;re wondering why you just got a free three month subscription extension for no reason, this is the reason. Thanks for pushing the blog over the top!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Three caveats on the annual revenue estimate:</p><ul><li><p>Substack counts free trials, gift subscriptions, and &#8220;comps&#8221; as paid subscriptions and (at least sometimes) seems to assume future revenue from those subscriptions. This is sometimes true, but often isn&#8217;t. The annual revenue is thus more of a guess, and a fairly generous one. In reality, I expect <em>De Civ</em> to clear about $1800 over the next twelve months. That&#8217;s still marvelous by any measure.</p></li><li><p>Take note, aspiring Substackers: the fees do sting! Substack takes 10%, and Stripe (the <em>mandatory</em> payments processor) takes an additional 5-10%. This varies because Stripe takes a flat $0.30 <em>per transaction</em> rather than <em>per subscription</em>. Thus, with an annual subscriber, you lose $0.30 per year, but, with a monthly subscriber, you lose $3.60 per year. That is before Stripe&#8217;s additional 2.9% fee. I&#8217;m thinking about making the annual subscription less expensive relative to the monthly subscription to account for this. But don&#8217;t worry, subscribers: according to Substack&#8217;s pricing policy, if <em>De Civitate</em>&#8217;s prices <em>rise</em>, you get &#8220;grandfathered in&#8221; at the lower rate and won&#8217;t have to pay the price hike. If they <em>fall</em>, though, you automatically get the new, better price.</p></li><li><p>This is all taxed as ordinary income by the U.S. federal government, and Stripe does <em>not</em> do withholding by default. So, if you join Substack, figure out what state and federal tax brackets you&#8217;re in, then set aside that much of your Substack revenue to pay for it!</p></li></ul><p>When all&#8217;s said and done, I expect that incredible $2,000 figure to net out to about $1,200 in my bank account. Since that&#8217;s still ten times my original goal and infinity times what I saw on Wordpress, I am nevertheless incredibly happy about this.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>YET.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>They do an okay job catching spelling errors and typos. Their editorial recommendations are consistently terrible: flatten the voice, soften the claim, equivocate harder. LLMs are conventional-wisdom machines, and anything that smacking of individuality gives them hives, no matter how they glaze you on the way to beating it all out of you.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I admit that this line, generated by the LLM, threw me:</p><blockquote><p>When I was a boy they asked us to explain, in a couple of paragraphs, why we wanted to be confirmed. In a fit of adolescent cleverness I wrote that it was good to belong to a Church that &#8220;had all the answers and had already done the thinking for you.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>This runs rather close to a half-remembered incident from my actual childhood, and now I&#8217;m trying to remember whether I ever wrote about it online, or what the exact details were. I was a very smug middle schooler.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The &#8220;magic number&#8221; for this is around 4,000 subscriptions. (If I quit my day job, I not only have to replace salary, but family medical insurance, retirement benefits, and tuition remission benefits, so my &#8220;magic number&#8221; is roughly double my actual salary.) It is therefore exceedingly unlikely that this ever will even arise as a question.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>There&#8217;s been a shortage of pro-liferism this year, which needs correcting.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Worthy Reads: Prepping Your Phone for the Thanksgiving Postprandial Doomscroll]]></title><description><![CDATA[Worthy Reads for November 2025]]></description><link>https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/worthy-reads-prepping-your-phone</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/worthy-reads-prepping-your-phone</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[James J. Heaney]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2025 17:29:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s2RH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86f550d7-ce6a-490a-bbef-43573dc5f08b_1056x1500.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Welcome to Worthy Reads, where I share some links that I think are worth your time. Everyone gets half of this month&#8217;s items (and some thoughts to chew on), but the other half (and footnotes) are paywalled. The paylisters keep me writing, though, and deserve a treat.</em></p><div><hr></div><h4>&#8220;<strong><a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5415055">Officers at Common Law</a></strong>,&#8221; by Nathaniel Donahue:</h4><blockquote><p>The Framers of the federal Constitution said almost nothing about how subordinate officers would be held accountable. This Article provides one overlooked explanation for this longstanding puzzle. The Constitution was enacted against a well-defined jurisprudence that has largely fallen from view: a law of officers. When using the term &#8220;Officer&#8221; and its framework of &#8220;Duties,&#8221; the Constitution invoked a distinctive method of regulating state power, in which officers were personally responsible&#8212;and liable&#8212;for discharging duties defined by law. The Framers and Ratifiers of the Constitution expected that these common-law rules would fill the gap left by the document&#8217;s silence. </p><p>This Article weaves together the strands of statutory and common law that constituted and regulated the early American officer. This system of legal organization, drawn from longstanding English and colonial practice, empowered officers to create a decentralized governing apparatus that blurred the line between public and private. Its regime of harsh personal liability and individual empowerment impeded efforts to construct a top-down hierarchy by empowering and encouraging officers to resist orders from their superiors. As Americans developed a bureaucratic state over the nineteenth- and twentieth centuries, judges and lawmakers replaced this officer-based paradigm of governance with a system of administrative law that was more conducive to the modern state.</p></blockquote><p>It&#8217;s been way too long since I posted a law paper in Worthy Reads, and this is a good one to break the fast.</p><p>In its own right, this article held my attention. Perhaps I have been &#8220;officer-pilled&#8221;! During the insurrection court cases, I became deeply invested in <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/an-officer-and-a-gentleman-and-a">the original meaning of &#8220;officer of the United States,&#8221;</a> and maybe I&#8217;m the only one who got stuck on it.</p><p>I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s it, though. One of my favorite little books to pull off the virtual shelf and read for a few minutes<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> is David Friedman&#8217;s <em><a href="http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Academic/Course_Pages/legal_systems_very_different_12/LegalSystemsDraft.html">Legal Systems Very Different From Our Own</a>, </em>which wonderfully highlights how many different ways there are to structure judicial power outside the Anglo-American tradition. All legal systems share certain things in common, but different design choices and different social capacities can lead into unrecognizable territory. </p><p>Donahue&#8217;s &#8220;Officers at Common Law&#8221; paints a picture of a legal regime very unlike our own&#8230; except, this legal system is <em>our</em> legal system! It&#8217;s <em>in</em> the Anglo-American tradition! It&#8217;s less than two hundred years old! It&#8217;s like he&#8217;s woken up and discovered <a href="https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/whither-tartaria">Tartaria</a>! </p><p>Did you know that, once upon a time, in many states, if the Surveyor of Highways didn&#8217;t plow the snow from your road on time as the law required, you could sue him for damages? That state employees sometimes had to post bond upon assuming their duties, a deposit in case they broke the law and their boss was held personally liable? Did you know that George Washington believed that he was powerless to fire deputies of the Postmaster General, even if he thought they were bad at their jobs, because only the Postmaster General himself had authority over them? </p><p>It was a different world! The article takes a long time to get rolling, but, eventually, fleshes out how that world worked. I thought it was neat.</p><p>It is <em>also</em> interesting, of course, because, the leading theory of executive-branch authority among constitutional conservatives today is the unitary executive theory, which holds that the Constitution vests executive power in the President <em>exclusively</em>, and so the President has an inherent right to direct the actions of every member of the executive branch. This theory&#8212;which, cards on the table, I have believed in for a long while&#8212;has been a key part of many lawsuits involving Mr. Trump&#8217;s attempts to reshape the White House by firing people (including people at the Fed). If this paper is right, then unitary executive theory is wrong, at least for originalist-textualists like me. It may still be the case that the President has an inherent <em>removal</em> power, and that <em>Humphrey&#8217;s Executor</em> is therefore still wrong, but this paper attempts to put the torch to the notion that the chief executive had exclusive, comprehensive <em>executive</em> power (and puts the removal thesis under serious strain).</p><p>Now, I don&#8217;t change my whole view on the basis of a single paper&#8217;s presentation of historical evidence that may, for all I know, be hotly contested. I don&#8217;t <em>think</em> Seth Barrett Tillman has written anything about this, but I&#8217;m pretty interested in what he might say. You should certainly regard papers released the same term as major Supreme Court cases dealing with the same subject with some initial suspicion. But, honestly, even if the whole thing were fiction (which seems very unlikely), it would <em>still</em> be a fun read, just for the picture it paints of a very different way of thinking about government officials.</p><p>Frankly, wouldn&#8217;t it be <em>great</em> to be able to sue Mayor Melvin Carter of the City of Saint Paul&#8212;not the city, but Mayor Melvin personally&#8212;for his abject failure to plow the roads in a timely fashion? Doesn&#8217;t modern administrative law, and the administrative state it supports, kind of, well&#8230; suck? Even for those of us (including me) who think <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of_Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales">Town of Castle Rock v. Gonzales</a></em> was correctly decided under the law, don&#8217;t we all pretty much agree that the outcome stinks for the poor dead kids? All these questions are opened anew by this paper. I commend it.</p><div><hr></div><h4>&#8220;<strong><a href="https://andymasley.substack.com/p/a-cheat-sheet-for-conversations-about">Using ChatGPT is not bad for the environment - a cheat sheet</a>,&#8221; by Andy Masley:</strong></h4><blockquote><p>When you add all these, the full CO2 emissions caused by a ChatGPT prompt comes out to 0.28 g CO2. For context, this is the same amount of CO2 emitted by:</p><ul><li><p>Streaming a video for 35 seconds</p></li><li><p>Uploading 9 photos to social media</p></li><li><p>Driving a sedan at a consistent speed for 4 feet</p></li><li><p>Running a space heater for 0.7 seconds</p></li><li><p>Printing a fifth of a page of a physical book</p></li><li><p>Using a laptop for 1 minute. If you&#8217;re reading this on a laptop and spend 20 minutes reading the full post, you will have used as much energy as 20 ChatGPT prompts. ChatGPT could write this blog post using less energy than you use to read it!</p></li></ul></blockquote><p>This is the gist of it. The balance of the article runs through rebuttals. (For example, &#8220;What about water use?&#8221;) Indeed, it seemed to me, by the end that there was no rational environmental case against AI at all (<a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ymmv">YMMV</a>), <em>unless</em>:</p><ol><li><p>you are the sort of strong environmentalist who doesn&#8217;t own a car or a television because it&#8217;s bad for the environment, or</p></li><li><p>you are opposing one specific data center in your specific backyard because of site-specific environmental issues. Of course, in this case, your beef isn&#8217;t really with AI, but with America&#8217;s immense appetite for data of all kinds (of which AI represents only a modest fraction), and specifically with how that appetite is manifesting vis-&#224;-vis your backyard. Still, this objection is legit. I&#8217;ll allow it.</p></li></ol><p>Given that the environmental case against AI doesn&#8217;t exist (or, if it does exist, it must be very esoteric), it is interesting that so many people repeat this criticism, and it bears wondering <em>why</em> people do that.</p><p>You want my theory? (I hope so. You&#8217;re subscribed to my newsletter. Only a very small number of you were judicially sentenced to subscribe to <em>De Civ</em> as part of a plea bargain.) I think people get hung up on the environmental arguments against AI for the same reason that they get hung up on continuity arguments against certain movies and TV shows.</p><p>Take <em>Star Trek Picard</em>. (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMttpxNtHp4">Please!</a>) I&#8217;m not going to get deep into media criticism here, but <em>Star Trek Picard</em> is a disastrous car wreck of a television show at every level. Each season is uniquely and distinctly the worst thing <em>Star Trek</em> has ever done.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> At its highest highs, <em>Picard</em> is not nearly as entertaining, as engaging, or as humane as the first season of <em>Farscape</em>, a <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd9WsdwKyDc">forgettable, no-budget</a> show the SciFi Channel used as filler in the early aughts<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a>. <em>Picard</em>&#8217;s seasonal arcs are the kind of writing you&#8217;d expect to read on the back of a breakfast cereal, its episode-to-episode execution wildly inconsistent and unhelpful, its original characters obnoxious, and its &#8220;legacy&#8221; characters bear no resemblance to their originals (which rather misses the point of including them). Character arcs meander and rarely make any sense, then get pruned and replaced with new character arcs that do the same thing. There is almost nothing satisfying about watching <em>Star Trek Picard</em>, and almost infinite problems to complain about.</p><p>Yet, when fans actually go to <em>complain</em> about <em>Picard</em>, they talk surprisingly rarely about (say) Q&#8217;s nonsensical plan in Season 2, or its hamfisted rewriting of Jean-Luc Picard to fit <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/worthy-reads-no-politics-at-christmas">The Trauma Plot</a>. Instead, they complain about <em>Picard</em>&#8217;s sins against the broader <em>Star Trek</em> continuity:</p><div id="youtube2-85J1l76hCUc" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;85J1l76hCUc&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/85J1l76hCUc?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>I don&#8217;t mean to pick on YouTube&#8217;s MajorGrin here; I enjoy his work. This is just a very <em>odd</em> critique to make. They&#8217;re not wrong, and continuity <em>is</em> very important (because of its role in <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/verisimilitude">verisimilitude</a> and, ultimately, <a href="https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Sub-creation">sub-creation</a>), but these kinds of continuity errors are endemic to all large television universes, including <em>Star Trek</em>. I owned this book as a child:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s2RH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86f550d7-ce6a-490a-bbef-43573dc5f08b_1056x1500.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s2RH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86f550d7-ce6a-490a-bbef-43573dc5f08b_1056x1500.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s2RH!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86f550d7-ce6a-490a-bbef-43573dc5f08b_1056x1500.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s2RH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86f550d7-ce6a-490a-bbef-43573dc5f08b_1056x1500.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s2RH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86f550d7-ce6a-490a-bbef-43573dc5f08b_1056x1500.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s2RH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86f550d7-ce6a-490a-bbef-43573dc5f08b_1056x1500.jpeg" width="430" height="610.7954545454545" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/86f550d7-ce6a-490a-bbef-43573dc5f08b_1056x1500.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1500,&quot;width&quot;:1056,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:430,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s2RH!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86f550d7-ce6a-490a-bbef-43573dc5f08b_1056x1500.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s2RH!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86f550d7-ce6a-490a-bbef-43573dc5f08b_1056x1500.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s2RH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86f550d7-ce6a-490a-bbef-43573dc5f08b_1056x1500.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s2RH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F86f550d7-ce6a-490a-bbef-43573dc5f08b_1056x1500.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>It was 407 pages long. The social contract between writers and audiences is that writers agree to do their best to maintain a consistent continuity, and the audience agrees to forgive and (more importantly) forget the occasional screw-up. When the show is good, they do! When the show is bad, they don&#8217;t.</p><p>I don&#8217;t think most people are well-equipped for literary criticism. It is not easy to articulate exactly <em>why</em> it&#8217;s so stupid and awful to, say, turn the beloved learning-to-be-human character from a previous series into a revenge-driven mass murderer with a chip on her shoulder about humanity&#8217;s racism. However, it is very, very easy to point out how Series VII, Season 1, Episode 2 contained a line that contradicted a throwaway line in Series II, Season 3, Episode 10.</p><p>I think that, when people dislike something, they may not be able to understand or articulate <em>why</em> they disliked it. When that happens, they will resort to the strongest argument they <em>do</em> understand. In the case of television and movies, that&#8217;s very often continuity.</p><p>In the case of LLMs, it&#8217;s environmental impact. It&#8217;s a bad argument&#8212;in fact, a much <em>worse</em> argument than continuity&#8212;but it&#8217;s easy to understand, and it&#8217;s powerful (because people feel strongly about protecting the environment), so that&#8217;s what they go with. They likely have deeper fears about job losses, the displacement of humans from artistic creation (hitherto the most uniquely human activity), the destruction of human relationships, and the construction of <a href="https://paulkingsnorth.substack.com/p/the-tale-of-the-machine">Paul Kingsnorth&#8217;s Machine</a>. These fears are strongly felt but hard to articulate, very debatable, and (in our technophilic era) can make one sound like a Troglodyte kook calling for <a href="https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/Butlerian_Jihad">Butlerian Jihad</a>. So they say, &#8220;ChatGPT is destroying the planet,&#8221; instead. Even though it isn&#8217;t.</p><div><hr></div><h4>&#8220;<a href="https://nephewjonathan.substack.com/p/an-inside-view-of-hoity-toity-east">An Inside View of Hoity-Toity East Coast Boarding Schools</a>,&#8221; by Nephew Jonathan:</h4><blockquote><p>There are, of course, two ways of balancing your books: you can cut expenses or you can increase revenue.</p><p>Scenario: it&#8217;s 2009; <code>$French_teacher</code> at <code>$School</code> has trouble getting <code>$Student</code> to learn the days of the week in order. They do flashcards. He asks her to recite them in English.</p><p>She can&#8217;t.</p><p><code>$Student</code>&#8217;s parents<code> </code>were paying full freight for her, and it was 2009 so the endowment had just taken a once-in-a-lifetime beating. In 2005 or 2018 <code>$Student</code> gets rejected; in 2009 she gets admitted.</p><p>This doesn&#8217;t <em>necessarily</em> put a huge dent in the school&#8217;s reputation unless it becomes a pattern (particularly in a scenario like the Great Recession when everybody is in the same boat). Unfortunately at <code>$School</code> it did. <code>$School</code> now costs over $60K a year and doesn&#8217;t offer AP classes. A more diplomatic way of putting it (this is a boarding school, we&#8217;re learning to be diplomatic) is that <code>$School</code> ended up in a different market niche.</p></blockquote><p>I know nothing of boarding schools, and this article was just a fascinating explanation of them. What is their purpose? How do they work? <em>Why</em> do they work? This is just a good read about them. It has nothing to do with anything at a larger cultural level. It&#8217;s just an anthropological dive into a different culture.</p><p>Anyone who has ever attended or, better yet, <em>worked at</em> an American private college will recognize not just the conclusions he draws about admins, but even some of the specific character archetypes. I sure know that <em>my</em> college was kept afloat, in part, by rich Saudi kids paying full freight (and freezing their butts off in the Minnesota winter) while the rest of us got various tuition subsidies.</p><div><hr></div><h4>&#8220;<a href="https://harpers.org/archive/2025/11/the-goon-squad-daniel-kolitz-porn-masturbation-loneliness/">The Goon Squad</a>,&#8221; by Daniel Kolitz:</h4><blockquote><p>So where were the gooners? A few seconds&#8217; research revealed their home base: Discord, a social messaging platform not unlike Slack, offering a multiverse of chat-room servers accessible by invitation. If Instagram was where millennials went to post infographics about racial disparities in income and policing, Discord was where zoomers went to swap the screeds of lesser-known school shooters. Or to talk about gaming. Or whatever zoomers did. This was supposedly where the online youth were headed: away from their parents&#8217; social platforms into private, self-policed spaces, little islands of affinity. I joined the first relevant server I could find: the GoonVerse, which had more than fifty thousand members. I examined the rules, which were at once surprisingly woke (no hate speech, no misgendering) and strict enough regarding the posting of child pornography as to suggest a serious and recurrent problem. Before entering, I was prompted to choose my &#8220;roles.&#8221; Age, region, and gender I could make sense of, but things grew confusing from there. Did I want to be &#8220;pinged for tournaments&#8221;? Was I a &#8220;hentai wankbattler,&#8221; or merely a &#8220;regular wankbattler&#8221;? These questions I answered at random, and then I entered the &#8220;stream room.&#8221;</p><p>Picture this: you work for a masturbation factory in hell. You log on to your scheduled workplace Zoom call.</p></blockquote><p>From one perspective (the ordinary, pedestrian perspective), this is an interesting anthropological deep dive into people who have simply taken a virtue&#8212;masturbation&#8212;to excess. All things in moderation, people! This is, no doubt, the mindset of the <em>Harper</em>&#8217;s audience who first gawked at it. </p><p>Of course, I think most people my age are already familiar with the gooners in broad strokes (sorry!), so this story isn&#8217;t shocking to us like it is to the article&#8217;s original audience. (I assume the average <em>Harper&#8217;s</em> reader is 71 years old and has only ever viewed pornography in magazines or DVDs.)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> Even so, the full horrors are still good for a little concerned gawking. It&#8217;s like that TV show <em>Hoarders. </em>Everyone knew what they were going to see, but they watched anyway for the cringe. This story is that, but for masturbation freaks. The more people see this, the more they will support laws that put pornography behind an age gate, and that&#8217;s good. (These laws are already <a href="https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/survey-results/daily/2025/05/02/1e408/1">quite popular</a>.) </p><p>On the other hand, from another perspective (mine), this is an anthropological deep dive into the throbbing mass (sorry!) at the center of our culture, because masturbation is the arch-vice of our society. </p><p>First, we endorsed masturbation. This happened over the course of the early twentieth century, culminating in the Sexual Revolution. It happened for understandable reasons. It was an overdue backlash against the insane medical hysteria over masturbation that had seized Europe with the publication of <em>Onania</em> and Tissot&#8217;s <em>L&#8217;Onanisme </em>in the early eighteenth century. This public panic lasted into the late nineteenth century, when Sylvester Graham invented his eponymous Graham cracker to help fight masturbation, and one of Graham&#8217;s disciples, John Kellogg (of Kellogg&#8217;s Corn Flakes fame) endorsed mass male circumcision in order to &#8220;cure&#8221; masturbation. Eventually, the world (correctly) realized that masturbation will not actually kill you&#8230; then swung the pendulum far in the other direction, on equally worthless medical &#8220;evidence,&#8221; to the point of positively encouraging it. (No, masturbation is not going to stop you from getting prostate cancer. Sorry. You&#8217;ve been lied to.) By the year 2000, we had a firm grip (sorry) on our old &#8220;prejudices&#8221; and were now firmly pro-masturbation.</p><p>This was survivable.</p><p>Then, as Kolitz puts it, &#8220;in the span of about five years earlier this century, virtually every child in the developed world was granted instant, unrestricted access not merely to hardcore pornography but to some of the most extreme examples of it ever produced in human history.&#8221; Much of the productive capacity of the human species&#8212;probably more than ever in history&#8212;is now devoted to the production <em>and consumption</em> of base sexual fantasy. Dark Satanic mills worth billions of dollars feed women into a machine that churns out #content in order to keep men in a docile, glazed stupor, consumed by sexual fantasy which they know isn&#8217;t fulfilling, which they know only fuels their own despair, and yet unable to look away. They&#8217;d look just like stunned sheep if it weren&#8217;t for the fist in their laps.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a></p><p>This vice has, of course, many terrible effects directly. The immediate human wreckage is ubiquitous, but this article shows it at such a grotesque extreme that even those inured to it might be able to see it.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a> What it does to the dating market is alarming at a macro level and <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/worthy-reads-the-world-spins-on-insensate">terribly sad</a> at the micro level, and this hardly scratches the surface of its direct effects.</p><p>However, our society&#8217;s acceptance of PornMasturbationOrgasm&#8212;nay, <em>glorification</em> of it&#8212;seeps into everything else, too, indirectly. What I particularly like about this article is that it glimpses this reality. Just one facet of it (social media), but he sees it. I&#8217;ve also written about how masturbation is the <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/spider-man-no-way-out?utm_source=publication-search">fundamental idiom</a> of current popular film. Who are we to tell them to stop? If pursuing pure animal pleasure, unconnected from growth or goodness, is a worthy (or even acceptable) human aim, then why should our art, or our rhetoric, or anything else aspire to anything more? Your friends on Facebook who relentlessly ragepost memes about incipient socialism, or Trump&#8217;s coming coup, are just doing it for the dopamine hit. They&#8217;re masturbating. Those of us who seek out only the news media we like and agree with, letting it fill our souls with whatever emotion feels good: masturbating.</p><p>&#8230;I couldn&#8217;t ask for a better segue to Heather Cox Richardson and (sigh) Tucker Carlson:</p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Fixing the Senate, Part III: Your Correspondent Replies to Every Single Commenter]]></title><description><![CDATA["Highlights from the Comments"? BAH! Lame! Let's spend several weeks of writing time answering them ALL!]]></description><link>https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/fixing-the-senate-part-iii-your-correspondent</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/fixing-the-senate-part-iii-your-correspondent</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[James J. Heaney]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2025 13:30:45 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gRF5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4561d1d-0f00-4ae4-8440-df4679dccb9f_2000x1000.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kyeh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb7ceef3-fbfc-4e3a-85d0-e849ccb9a47f_407x211.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kyeh!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb7ceef3-fbfc-4e3a-85d0-e849ccb9a47f_407x211.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kyeh!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb7ceef3-fbfc-4e3a-85d0-e849ccb9a47f_407x211.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kyeh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb7ceef3-fbfc-4e3a-85d0-e849ccb9a47f_407x211.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kyeh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb7ceef3-fbfc-4e3a-85d0-e849ccb9a47f_407x211.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kyeh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb7ceef3-fbfc-4e3a-85d0-e849ccb9a47f_407x211.png" width="723" height="374.8230958230958" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/eb7ceef3-fbfc-4e3a-85d0-e849ccb9a47f_407x211.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:211,&quot;width&quot;:407,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:723,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Everyone disliked that.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Everyone disliked that." title="Everyone disliked that." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kyeh!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb7ceef3-fbfc-4e3a-85d0-e849ccb9a47f_407x211.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kyeh!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb7ceef3-fbfc-4e3a-85d0-e849ccb9a47f_407x211.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kyeh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb7ceef3-fbfc-4e3a-85d0-e849ccb9a47f_407x211.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kyeh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb7ceef3-fbfc-4e3a-85d0-e849ccb9a47f_407x211.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Well, I <em>did</em> promise!</p><p>I have a long-running series called <em><a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/roundup-some-constitutional-amendments">Some Constitutional Amendments</a></em>, wherein I try to save the country by proposing modest, politically-neutral, structural reforms to the U.S. Constitution. These &#8220;realistic&#8221; amendments are designed to fix defects in the Constitution in &#8220;<a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2021/10/01/some-principles-for-proposing-constitutional-amendments-on-ones-blog/">conspicuously non-partisan ways</a>,&#8221; because partisan amendments are impossible in our polarized era.</p><p>In June, I wrote <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/a-senate-if-you-can-keep-it">a short, opinionated history of the collapse of the U.S. Senate</a>. Intended as a moderating counterpoint to the populist House of Representatives (like boron control rods in a nuclear reactor), the Senate decayed into a second, dumber House. This, I argued, was due to oversights in the Constitution, particularly its failure to foresee organized political parties.</p><p>In July, I wrote up <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/replacing-the-seventeenth-amendment">my proposal to fix the Senate</a>. The article had several interesting features:</p><ul><li><p>It was the longest article I&#8217;ve written for <em>Some Constitutional Amendments</em>.</p></li><li><p>It was the most complicated idea I&#8217;ve had for <em>Some Constitutional Amendments</em>.</p></li><li><p>It was the least popular thing I&#8217;ve written for <em>Some Constitutional Amendments</em>. </p></li></ul><p>This last was not even a close call. The article had 35 comments, and I do not think <em>a single one</em> said, &#8220;Yes, great idea, let&#8217;s do it!&#8221; You were all wonderfully good sports about it, of course (as the <em>De Civitate</em> readership always is), and you said lots of very kind things. Nonetheless, you largely thought that, while I had many interesting and provocative ideas, I had clearly taken a left turn off an embankment to firey doom about halfway through. A representative example:</p><blockquote><p><em><a href="https://substack.com/profile/164217124-tarb">TARB</a>: Unfortunately, I feel like this one has gone afar of the idea of &#8220;propos[ing] realistic amendments to the Constitution&#8221;. Granted, constitutional amendments are so difficult that I&#8217;m not sure much of anything can be considered realistic, but prior ones were the sort I could see having some kind of actual possibility, even if I thought some were questionable.</em></p></blockquote><p>Fair enough, dear readers! If even you, the sort of wonks who read long articles about constitutional amendments, think my proposal is too weird and confusing to work, then it is a foregone conclusion that the voting public will, too. The amendment, at least as I proposed it, is a dead letter.</p><p>However, I <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/replacing-the-seventeenth-amendment/comment/133948051">promised</a> to reply to all your comments in a future article&#8230; and I still think that&#8217;s important, because, as problematic as my proposal obviously was, I think it&#8217;s well worth thinking through all your objections so that we can find a better approach. </p><p>Also, it&#8217;s well worth arguing with all your objections for petty vindication!</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gRF5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4561d1d-0f00-4ae4-8440-df4679dccb9f_2000x1000.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gRF5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4561d1d-0f00-4ae4-8440-df4679dccb9f_2000x1000.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gRF5!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4561d1d-0f00-4ae4-8440-df4679dccb9f_2000x1000.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gRF5!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4561d1d-0f00-4ae4-8440-df4679dccb9f_2000x1000.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gRF5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4561d1d-0f00-4ae4-8440-df4679dccb9f_2000x1000.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gRF5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4561d1d-0f00-4ae4-8440-df4679dccb9f_2000x1000.jpeg" width="1456" height="728" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f4561d1d-0f00-4ae4-8440-df4679dccb9f_2000x1000.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:728,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Meme: Why are you booing me? I'm right!&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Meme: Why are you booing me? I'm right!" title="Meme: Why are you booing me? I'm right!" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gRF5!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4561d1d-0f00-4ae4-8440-df4679dccb9f_2000x1000.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gRF5!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4561d1d-0f00-4ae4-8440-df4679dccb9f_2000x1000.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gRF5!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4561d1d-0f00-4ae4-8440-df4679dccb9f_2000x1000.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gRF5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4561d1d-0f00-4ae4-8440-df4679dccb9f_2000x1000.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Me, reading your comments: <em>&#8220;My plan is perfect! How dare you insult the perfectness of <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNGH-Hev4sw#t=4m10s">my perfect plan</a>!&#8221;</em></figcaption></figure></div><p><em>A forewarning: because a lot of the comments on my proposal were pretty technical, this article is going to be pretty inside-baseball. It&#8217;s also quite long, because I promised to reply to ALL the comments. If you bounce off of it, I won&#8217;t blame you a bit.</em></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>De Civitate</em> is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2>A Quick Recap</h2><p>You will recall that I had three substantive objectives for the revitalized Senate. From most important to least:</p><ul><li><p>The Senate should be composed of wise, accomplished statesmen, elected by their state governments. They should <em>not</em> be elected by the People, either directly or (worse) indirectly, through partisan political endorsements and (gulp) political party primaries, <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/this-is-no-way-to-elect-a-president">which are</a> engines of extremism and madness, not wisdom or statesmanship.</p></li><li><p>The Senate should be small enough to deliberate effectively.</p></li><li><p>Each senator should be ideologically close to her state&#8217;s median voter. This would lead to a more moderate Senate, which would be more capable of playing the roles the Founders assigned it: moderating the populism of the House, and achieving consensus in cases that require detached, sober judgment (like treaties and impeachment trials<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>).</p></li></ul><p>I also had one prudential objective:</p><ul><li><p>Senate elections must avoid deadlocks, because voters, who loathe deadlocks (which temporarily deprive them of representation in the Senate), passed the Seventeenth Amendment in the first place in order to end deadlocks. Although we still have some deadlocks in the form of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_United_States_Senate_election_in_Minnesota">post-election lawsuit</a>s, the amendment largely worked, and voters are unlikely to accept the return of deadlocks.</p></li></ul><p>I won&#8217;t fully restate my reasons for these objectives, since this post is going to be long enough anyway, but I explained more in &#8220;<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/a-senate-if-you-can-keep-it">A Senate, If You Can Keep It</a>.&#8221; These objectives, taken together, led me to my solution. I&#8217;ll put the full text of my amendment proposal in this footnote,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> in case you want to remind yourself of all the gory details, but I&#8217;ll summarize:</p><p><em>Amendment XXXIII</em></p><ol><li><p>The U.S. Senate has only one senator per state, chosen by state senates.</p></li><li><p>State senates have two calendar days to elect a candidate by a two-thirds supermajority.</p></li><li><p>If the state senate fails to elect by the deadline, a contingency election kicks in, forcing a quick (but moderate) resolution:</p><ol><li><p>All experienced state senators are ranked by an algorithm called DW-NOMINATE, which reliably detects partisanship. The 10% of state senators in the middle (who are presumably closest to the state&#8217;s median voter) are nominated.</p></li><li><p>The state senate votes on these nominees by ranked-choice ballot.</p></li><li><p>If exactly one nominee beats every other, he is elected senator.</p></li><li><p>In rare cases, there will be no single winner. (This is akin to someone winning a plurality but not a majority in a popular election, but much rarer.) If that happens, the nominee with the least votes is eliminated from all ballots and votes are recounted. Repeat until there is a single winner.</p></li></ol></li><li><p>The House of Representatives can amend Section 3 (the contingent election procedure) by a three-quarters supermajority.</p></li><li><p>Pledges, vows, endorsements, instructions, and advice given to a state senator are null and void. State senators cannot be bound, in law or conscience, to vote for any specific candidate. Sorry, political parties!</p></li><li><p>[This section handles the details of the transition from two senators per state to one senator per state. It is very boring and no one commented on it.]</p></li><li><p>Someone who violates this amendment can be sued in a federal court and forced to comply with it.</p></li></ol><p>Now, let&#8217;s see what you made of it!</p><h2>Fundamental Objections</h2><p>Several of you good people suggested that my original, substantive objectives are just wrong, or at least misguided, and suggested jettisoning one or more of them in favor of the others:</p><blockquote><p><em><span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Daniel Pareja&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:218523530,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2b96d43a-f5c4-461b-af98-05bac36a19b0_144x144.png&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;5baedb1b-fb4d-4b4e-8fbc-408f4cc0f7cd&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>: This is not going to sound good to American ears, but if you really want a representative body full of moderates (relative to the population as a whole, so not necessarily moderates in the sense that politics currently has it), make voting mandatory.</em></p></blockquote><p>This would seem to tend to push a body toward moderation, at least in a certain sense. However, my aim was a deliberative body composed of wise statesmen. As I&#8217;ve often argued in this series, mass popular election tends toward demagogues. <em>Mandatory</em> mass popular election forces on us an even less-informed, less-engaged electorate than the current one, which means it tends even more toward demagogues. Moderate demagogues? Sure, maybe!<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> But you won&#8217;t build a talented Senate with virtues and vices distinct from the House; even if it works perfectly, you&#8217;ll just end up with a second House, still malapportioned, if perhaps rather blander.</p><p>There&#8217;s a case to be made that my whole vision for American government is based on overvaluing federalism, checks and balances, and the Constitutional design, while undervaluing democracy, adequate representation, and the Westminster design. (Daniel <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/replacing-the-seventeenth-amendment/comment/134476906">often makes that case</a>, and makes it very well!) However, for me, electing wise, talented people to the Senate on the honest recommendation of their legislative peers is the most important objective. It does not make sense for me to sacrifice it in order to secure the lesser objective of moderation.</p><p>However, if you have different priorities than I, Daniel is well worth listening to!</p><blockquote><p><em><a href="https://substack.com/profile/164217124-tarb">TARB</a>: I wonder if perhaps [party-driven proportional representation] could work as a substitute for the job of how state legislatures previously chose the Senators. Because when it comes to proportional representation, the candidates are not chosen by the public, but by the parties. Political parties may not necessarily be as &#8220;in the know&#8221; about passing legislation as an actual legislator, but they obviously have incentive to get their policies enforced and would do at least some kind of vetting for who they pick.</em></p><p><em>Now, I haven&#8217;t lived in a country with proportional representation so I&#8217;m not sure how it works out in practice in terms of choosing candidates. It certainly nixes any idea of people who go somewhat against their party, like a Joe Manchin or a Suzan Collins, because obviously a party is going to be choosing reliable party stalwarts.</em></p></blockquote><p>This approach would certainly change the composition of the Senate! Just not in ways that align with my goals&#8212;nor, I think, in healthy ways. This approach gives up entirely on senators being near their state&#8217;s ideological median in order to hand candidate-selection power to party bosses. </p><p>Now, I do think that there are merits to having party bosses in smoke-filled rooms select candidates; they do a better job than dreadful mass primaries. However, they will still be selecting candidates to win a general election, which means they will be putting forward candidates endowed with &#8220;talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity,&#8221; in the words of <em><a href="https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Hamilton/01-04-02-0218">Federalist 68</a></em>. Using a party-driven system of proportional representation means, moreover, that the individual identities of these candidates will be subsumed under the identity of the party leader, who is (inevitably, unavoidably) a demagogue, whether of the Boris Johnson &#8220;empty suit&#8221; persuasion or the Jeremy Corbyn &#8220;oh dear God no&#8221; variety. This is the system we are trying to break.</p><p>I&#8217;m afraid it gets worse. Shifting to a system of national proportional representation would break the connection between states and the federal Senate that we were trying to recover. Remember when <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/165499308/did-the-seventeenth-amendment-work">I noted</a>, &#8220;It is probably not a coincidence that, shortly after the state legislatures lost their ability to police the boundaries of federal power (in order to protect their own), the size, scope, power, and prestige of the federal government <em>exploded</em>.&#8221; I think that was bad!</p><p>It would also, for the first time in American history, force an election to be fully federalized, since a system where the national popular vote tally <em>actually matters</em> would be too tempting a target for officials in red and blue states to resist. It&#8217;s one thing when California&#8217;s poor voter ID controls allow illegal immigrants to have a say in who represents California in the Senate. It&#8217;s quite another thing when California&#8217;s poor voter ID controls give California&#8217;s non-citizens a say in who represents <em>Alabama</em> in the Senate! Today, America survives because so many of our <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/biden-really-won">perennial election disputes</a> can&#8217;t possibly make a difference to the final outcome. Federalism gives us an &#8220;ice cube tray&#8221; approach, so one state can bungle an election without dragging the other forty-nine down with it. National proportional representation, however, would make every dispute, everywhere, potentially outcome-changing. I therefore tend to think that the fastest road to civil war runs through federal elections.</p><p>However, shifting instead to a system of <em>state-</em>based proportional representation in the Senate would require a radical <em>increase</em> in the number of senators (Daniel suggests <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/replacing-the-seventeenth-amendment/comment/138265962">some 600 members</a>), which would run counter to my objective of establishing a smaller Senate, where every Senator knows every other, and thus becomes more capable of genuine deliberation.</p><p>Finally, this model would not work in the current American party system. In order to manage list-based proportional representation, without it immediately collapsing into the same populist horror show that we have today, you must have a certain kind of political party. As Daniel noted in another comment, that kind of <a href="https://jwmason.org/slackwire/political-parties-are-illegal-in-the-united-states/">political party is illegal in the United States</a>. It has been outright illegal since the Progressive Era, and has never had much purchase in our political traditions.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> Amending the Senate to allow this would thus require smashing and rebuilding the entire American party system. As admittedly ambitious as I was in my proposal, this strikes me as too much for one amendment to take on, especially as a side effect.</p><p>This goes some length to explaining why I mostly ignored other legislatures around the world, as Tarb also suggested:</p><blockquote><p><em>TARB: But what really strikes me as odd about this one is how much theorycrafting there is. Various other countries have bicameral legislatures with an upper house and lower house. Why not look at any of them for inspiration to see if perhaps they might have alternate ways that, if not necessarily what one would want for the US itself, at least be something to springboard ideas off of? I didn&#8217;t really see much of that in the article. There&#8217;s dozens of other countries that have a bicameral legislature, so looking at them to see how they elect the upper house for comparison seems like it could be ripe for ideas.</em></p></blockquote><p>I was attempting to restore something the Founding Fathers had attempted but failed to establish: a truly deliberative federal Senate, with the aristocratic virtues of the House of Lords (back when the English aristocracy was a serious and powerful force), but with members chosen by republican institutions for their merits, not by monarchs for their blood.</p><p>Most modern democracies around the world are not children of this tradition. They find their roots in the ideology of the Progressive Era around the turn of the last century: the best way to ensure the People are heard is to ensure as few mediating barriers between the People and policy as possible. Those that weren&#8217;t actually born into this milieu have been badly eroded by it. As a result, democratic-republican systems around the world today are (in my view) dangerously similar to one another, vulnerable (like the global population of cloned bananas) to the same ailments. It is therefore unsurprising that the crisis of democracy is global.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mprM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc6b3b052-e4af-4403-b960-00fa3f0e5ccf_604x403.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mprM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc6b3b052-e4af-4403-b960-00fa3f0e5ccf_604x403.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mprM!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc6b3b052-e4af-4403-b960-00fa3f0e5ccf_604x403.jpeg 848w, 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If that sounds contemptuous of other countries, it shouldn&#8217;t. After all, the example I <em>did</em> look to, America&#8217;s example, was an example of failure.</p><h2>&#8220;Shovel-Ready FORTRAN Jobs&#8221;</h2><p>There were lots of comments that the proposal was too complicated. For example:</p><blockquote><p><em><span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Christopher M. Russo&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:118747802,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F39381555-cd14-4532-8abd-97f203b7f2dc_144x144.png&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;7728c3fb-8ba0-4853-8d37-0e0f2469d284&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>: You left out a key benefit of your proposal: it would create new shovel-ready jobs for Fortran programmers! (DW-NOMINATE is written in Fortran.)</em></p><p><em>As you acknowledge, this proposal is extremely complicated. Unfortunately, the proposal is so complicated that I worry it would diminish the Senate&#8217;s legitimacy. The People may not directly elect their Senators, but they must at least understand the process by which they are elected!</em></p></blockquote><p>The objection is obviously correct. One of my evergreen goals for <em>Some Constitutional Amendments</em> is simplicity: easy to understand, easy to defend, easy to implement, easy to double-check afterward. This feature is needed to build political support for a proposal, to defend the proposal when it (inevitably) faces organized attack, and to sustain the amendment over generations. Simplicity also happens to be an important feature of blog posts, as we see here!:</p><blockquote><p><em>TARB: This one, though, I read through the article and I&#8217;m honestly still confused by the concept. That&#8217;s not a great sign. Granted, I&#8217;ll admit I did a bunch of skimming of the later parts</em></p></blockquote><p>Oh, dear, a blog post where a reader starts skimming is not a blog post that is doing its job as a piece of writing (at least, not with that reader).</p><p>As I had to acknowledge in the original piece, I abandoned simplicity because I felt I had no better choice. I could not find a way to achieve my other objectives without sacrificing simplicity. I thought that simplicity was the least costly thing to sacrifice. As we will shortly see, some of you thought differently. Fair enough! Trade-offs are hard, and reasonable people disagree about them! That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s so important to minimize the number of trade-offs in one&#8217;s proposals, and my proposal fell short of that.</p><p>One minor thing before I move on, though: I actually <em>don&#8217;t</em> think &#8220;the People need to understand the process by which their senators are elected&#8221;! The People mostly do not understand almost anything about how government works. It is only thanks to the recent electoral college crises (in 2000, 2016, and 2020) that our generation understands the electoral college. The pundit-watching class (a narrow slice of Americans) was vaguely aware of it and mentioned it every few years if polls looked tight. Someone on CNN would explain it to you on election night as they watched the state returns come in. However, <em>even today</em>, if you ask someone for whom they voted for President in 2020, they&#8217;re going to say Joe Biden or Donald Trump, not <a href="https://ropersanchor.jamesjheaney.com/2020/10/28/minnesota-presidential-electors-2020/">Melvin Aanerud or Janet Beihoffer</a>&#8212;even though they did, in fact, cast their vote for either Melvin or Janet, not Joe or Donald. Almost nobody understands the 12th Amendment contingent election in the event of an electoral college tie; ask around to see who understands the unit rule.</p><p>The People don&#8217;t care how it works, as long as (1) it does, in fact work, and (2) they don&#8217;t have to be the ones worrying about it.</p><p>Unfortunately, during an amendment proposal process, the People <em>do</em> have to worry about it. If my proposal somehow came before the states for ratification, I would recommend explaining it to voters like this:</p><blockquote><p>This amendment forces two-thirds of the state senate to agree on a consensus candidate for Senate. If they can&#8217;t agree in two days, it forces them to use a complicated, annoying procedure to elect a moderate instead. They&#8217;ll usually agree on someone before it comes to that, because it would be way too annoying otherwise.</p></blockquote><p>This isn&#8217;t ideal. The ideal would be to have an actually simple amendment proposal. I just think that getting stuck with a complex proposal is not, in itself, necessarily fatal for voters.</p><h2>Deadlocks Don&#8217;t Matter?</h2><p>Several of you recoiled so much at the complexity of the proposal that you decided that the less-costly tradeoff would be to sacrifice the proposal&#8217;s anti-deadlock provision<em>s:</em></p><blockquote><p><em><span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Phil H&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:4292792,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/677730d6-1b60-4d2e-9c82-ac82e6e4f5e9_275x183.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;f41a6a55-ec09-4f10-84f5-ce8b207a1938&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>: The more I think about this, the more it makes sense to just let the single Senate seat from a given state go vacant, if the state senators deadlock. There will be enough states that are able to elect Senators (due to one-party domination if nothing else) that the &#8220;purple&#8221; states will have a powerful incentive not to be left out, and come to a consensus to elect someone.</em></p></blockquote><blockquote><p><em>CHRISTOPHER M. RUSSO: The epicycles of the proposal stem from contingent elections as a method to break deadlocks. Why care about deadlocks? Previously, you mention that some Senate seats would remain open for months (sometimes years) because state senators could not agree on a candidate.</em></p><p><em>So what? If the Senate has a quorum to conduct its business, then let a state deprive itself of representation until it get its act together. Ultimately, if the state senators are unwilling to compromise, then they face accountability from voters whom (it seems) do not like deadlocks.</em></p></blockquote><p>One of the major causes of the Seventeenth Amendment was senate deadlocks, which could leave a state&#8217;s U.S. Senate seat empty for months or years. Voters got really upset about this, and passed the Seventeenth Amendment partly to end deadlocks, which (unlike other goals of the Seventeenth Amendment) mostly worked. My proposal therefore insisted on avoiding them.</p><p>However, Christopher M. Russo is exactly right that <em>all</em> the epicycles in my proposal stem from that. If I had been willing to accept the possibility of a deadlock, my proposal would have been ever-so-simple:</p><ol><li><p>Each state gets one senator.</p></li><li><p>Each senator is elected by a two-thirds majority of the state senate.</p></li><li><p>The end. Celebrate with a root beer.</p></li></ol><p>I think the mistake here is assuming that partisans are primarily loyal to their <em>states</em> rather than to their <em>parties</em>. As we have recently seen in the escalating <a href="https://www.natesilver.net/p/democrats-can-win-the-redistricting">gerrymander wars</a>, especially in Texas and California, in polarized eras, both partisan legislators and their partisan voter base are perfectly happy, even eager, to do obvious violence to their state&#8217;s political system in order to advance the power of their national political parties.</p><p>These partisans have very little interest in ensuring that their state has representation in the federal Senate. Their concern is ensuring that their party has maximum advantage there. This gives minority-party legislators in purple states very strong incentives to deliberately and permanently deadlock their senate races, if at all possible. After all, if they cooperate and make a deal, the best they can hope for is to elect a moderate member of the opposite party, who will oppose the minority party in Washington more than half the time. If they refuse all cooperation, however, they can keep the state&#8217;s seat in Washington empty forever. <em>Their voters will reward them for this behavior, while punishing them if they dare cooperate</em>.</p><p>As a result, if we adopted this rule, I expect that, under most circumstances, only states where a single party has a legislative super-majority would be able to elect a U.S. Senator. Technically, sure, the purple-state voters ought to hold obstructionists accountable, putting a stop to all this, so, when they don&#8217;t, they&#8217;re technically getting what they deserve.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a> However, we&#8217;re going to find ourselves with 10+ states more or less permanently lacking representation in the U.S. Senate. It&#8217;s hard to see that as a win for republican institutions and federalism.</p><p>You could soften the blow by abandoning my super-majority requirement to elect, returning to a simple majority (or double-majority in both houses)&#8230; but then you&#8217;re back to parties electing their favored candidates without consulting the minority, which means nominations by party primary, state legislative races becoming proxy elections, Senate candidates going on the stump, and all the other stuff we hoped to contain.</p><h2>Suppress Deadlocks with Proper Conclaves</h2><p>This brings us to an interesting suggestion:</p><blockquote><p><em>CHRISTOPHER M. RUSSO: Let me assume, arguendo, that deadlocks are a problem that must be fixed. You discuss the merits of a conclave-like system, but you distrust individual state governments to enforce secrecy. Yet, Congress can regulate the election of senators (Art. I, Sec. 4). Congress could set forth regulations requiring a conclave-like system. Congress could also impose stiff penalties for states who fail to abide by the regulations, such as rejecting their senator-elects.</em></p><p><em>While Congress cannot regulate the place of choosing senators, I can imagine such regulation including safe harbor provision for states who conduct their conclaves in DC with federal oversight and assistance. E.g., Capitol Hill police stationed outside the conclave to prevent unauthorized access. The feds do a good job of keeping things secret when they want to!</em></p></blockquote><p>This could work! I just think it would be difficult to enforce consistently throughout the nation. For electing the POTUS, I proposed a single conclave of 50 governors, once every 4 years. Using it for Senate elections, by contrast, would require holding 16 conclaves every 2 years. Each separate conclave would need to isolate around 40 state senators (for a total of around 650), not just from the world, but from one another&#8217;s conclaves. Each will need on-site living and dining facilities, fairly intense (and incorruptible) security (both to protect the members <em>and</em> to keep them from communicating with the outside world), and a meeting hall. </p><p>This is definitely doable, and, if it were done well, I think it would succeed at solving the deadlocks problem. Deadlocks seem unlikely in a world where state senators are effectively imprisoned until they reach an agreement. Even the most partisan diehards won&#8217;t be willing to leave a seat empty for two years if it means missing their lives back home. There&#8217;s a reason papal conclaves never last more than a week anymore, and part of that reason is much more rigorous isolation of the electors. If an Article V convention seemed receptive to Senatorial conclaves instead of my proposal, I&#8217;d happily support it, and it would be a great improvement on our current system.</p><p>However, going this route strikes me as one or two orders of magnitude harder than having a single conclave for president every four years. That makes me nervous, especially in light of the American people&#8217;s past reaction to deadlocks, and sent me looking for a method that could guarantee a decisive, timely result.</p><h2>A Win&#8217;s A Win</h2><p>Now we get into the comments where readers argued with specific sections of the proposal. Before we dive into the criticisms, though, I&#8217;ll note a win.</p><p>I argued that we should reduce the number of U.S. Senators from two per state to one per state. I provided some details on how to accomplish that transition. I wrote that this was &#8220;low-hanging fruit,&#8221; and that &#8220;we should do it even if nothing else in this article sticks.&#8221;</p><p>As far as I could tell, you all pretty much agreed. The only objection came from Daniel, in the course of his more fundamental argument for proportional representation (which requires more senators). Assuming we aren&#8217;t adopting proportional representation, then, it seems that a &#8220;make the Senate smaller&#8221; amendment, as a standalone, might be well-received, at least by <em>De Civ</em> readers!</p><p>Along the same lines, I did see your many notes that the proposal was &#8220;ingenious&#8221; and &#8220;well-thought&#8221; and &#8220;well worth the wait,&#8221; and I very much appreciated them. Obviously, an article about &#8220;responding to comments&#8221; is going to inevitably focus on the <em>negative</em> aspects of your comments, but you&#8217;re a lovely readership, kind even as you rake me over the coals, and I&#8217;m grateful for you.</p><h2>Can&#8217;t Trust Them Judges</h2><p>Section 7 of my proposal made the entire amendment subject to the jurisdiction of federal courts, which raised some eyebrows:</p><blockquote><p><em><span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Mastricht&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:242566591,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/fee5a48e-09c4-4b8b-813e-81c744b252a0_144x144.png&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;36f77353-90c8-48b9-bbe1-230b28b2d744&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>: Expect partisan courts. Was that ballot really secret?</em></p></blockquote><p>Oh, for sure the courts will be partisan. Judges usually try not to be partisan political actors, but, of course, they can&#8217;t help it. </p><p>However, consider the alternatives! There seem to be three other bodies capable of adjudicating disputes over this amendment: the state senate itself (which is presumably the one doing the shenanigans that sent the case to court in the first place), the U.S. Senate (which, today, ignores the law in favor of partisan interests), and bad actors from the governor&#8217;s office (their names are <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/how-the-minnesota-stalemate-ended">Steve Simon</a>).</p><p>Compared to those three options, the courts seem best.</p><p>On the other hand, our goal here is to make the U.S. Senate much less partisan. If we succeed at this, maybe the Senate <em>would</em> be the better venue for hearing disputes.</p><div><hr></div><blockquote><p><em><span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Evan &#222;&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:25580792,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ce8d8f8b-a66b-4af0-9b8e-ce513eb34265_144x144.png&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;80fbbe2d-24b4-44e3-a0e6-f62e492bda9f&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>: Section 7 will be the first time the word &#8220;justiciable&#8221; appears in the Constitution. I don&#8217;t like the concept, and I don&#8217;t want to implicitly approve it by leaving the implication some things aren&#8217;t justiciable. And besides, this threatens Article 1 Section 5 Paragraph 1 where &#8220;each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members&#8221; - so I&#8217;d rather just restate that clause with the desired changes. So, what do you imagine justiciability looking like here?</em></p></blockquote><p>There&#8217;s no need to imply that some things aren&#8217;t justiciable, because some things definitely aren&#8217;t! The political question doctrine and its cousins exclude a large but ill-defined zone of the Constitution from judicial review. Some of this is good, like the fact that the courts <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/138295184/a-political-question">cannot review</a> the verdict of an impeachment trial. Some of this is bad, like the fact that, according to the Supreme Court, the courts <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/the-supreme-court-gives-section-3">cannot review</a> at least some constitutional qualifications for high office. Wrangling over this doctrine consumes about the first third of <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/155417747/a-political-question">every legal battle</a> involving any legislature. I, for one, am fed up with it.</p><p>I thought that, for this amendment, it was safer to ensure access to judicial review. I wasn&#8217;t sure I had thought of all the ways it might be needed, so I thought it best to just lay down blanket permission, even (yes) at the expense of the &#8220;Elections, Returns, and Qualifications&#8221; clause, which would not apply to anything arising out of this amendment. As I proceed through the other comments, I&#8217;ll note a few places where justiciability might be a nice feature!</p><h2>Simpler Election Methods?</h2><p>Three years ago, in &#8220;<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/death-to-gerrymanders">Death to Gerrymanders</a>&#8221;, I wrote, &#8220;You simply <em>can&#8217;t</em> write a five-page algorithm into a federal constitutional amendment.&#8221; Then, in July, I wrote an algorithm into a federal constitutional amendment: DW-NOMINATE. This was a mess, but it enabled the simplest method I could find that reliably elected senators close to their state&#8217;s median voter.</p><p>Several of you suggested that I could accomplish the same goals with much less awkward methods!</p><div><hr></div><blockquote><p><em><span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Victoria F&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:55496373,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ba4eb181-5758-4cbb-9c12-f6a448ac006e_1422x675.png&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;eb41daad-5f7a-4ee0-8f58-e5d1f5349a90&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>: Why not just start using Single Transferable Vote with a 2/3rds threshold, instead of going straight to complex algorithms that most people can&#8217;t check on their own?</em></p></blockquote><p>Well, great minds must think alike, because this was the very first thing I tried.</p><p>Unfortunately, it is a mathematical property of single transferable vote that you can&#8217;t (meaningfully) apply a two-thirds threshold to it. If you try, the winner is always the same as the simple majority winner. After all, consider how STV works: you eliminate the least-popular candidate and recount the votes without &#8216;em, repeating the process until someone has enough first-choice votes to pass the victory threshold. </p><p>However, once someone has a simple majority of first-choice votes, <em>they can&#8217;t be eliminated</em>. There is no combination of rankings and ballots and head-to-head matchups that could ever cause them to be the &#8220;least popular candidate.&#8221; They will simply continue accumulating votes while other candidates are eliminated, until they <em>inevitably</em> reach two-thirds, even if it takes a hundred rounds and requires the last-choice votes of a third of the voters.</p><p>In a disciplined state legislature with tactical voting, the result is that the partisan candidate nominated by the majority caucus (probably at the behest of primary voters) will always defeat the candidate from the state&#8217;s ideological center. The method provides no protection against popular influence or partisanship. It reduces to a simple internal party caucus with unnecessary extra steps.</p><p><em>Every</em> system I looked at had these problems. I spent, literally, entire days looking them over, not getting any writing done at all, trying to find <em>one</em> that could be adapted to fit the needs of a U.S. Senate election. Bucklin voting gave me hope for a while, but its <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/replacing-the-seventeenth-amendment#footnote-17-166133934">cloning problem</a> ended up ruling it out. (In a Bucklin vote, the side that nominates more candidates can engineer a win. It can generally use tactical voting to ensure that its <em>preferred</em> candidate wins, as well. This reduced to a simple internal majority-party caucus with extra steps.)</p><p>At least for now, there&#8217;s simply no alternative: if you want anyone other than the majority party&#8217;s ideological choice to be viable, and <em>especially</em> if you want some degree of compromise between different factions, you <em>must</em> eliminate the majority party&#8217;s preference prior to final voting. There is no known voting mechanism that can do this for you. If you <em>don&#8217;t</em> do this, then your Senate will fail the same way the Founders&#8217; Senate did: political parties, mass primaries, extremist candidates, and state elections becoming proxies for federal ones.</p><p>My blunt-force method of doing that was to apply DW-NOMINATE, which makes the majority party&#8217;s preferred candidate ineligible (unless the majority party, anticipating this, chose a centrist, which is fine).</p><div><hr></div><blockquote><p><em><a href="https://substack.com/@gilbert794953">GILBERT</a>: Note that the least controversial hated will usually not be a Condorcet winner, because a Condorcet winner still can have a fairly large minority who hates him. But electing the least hated member is actually fairly easy: Use your favorite method of proportional representation (which should be STV but here it doesn&#8217;t matter much) to elect an exclusion panel that has one less member than your state senate. The person not elected to the exclusion panel is your winner. In a two-party system, effectively the majority gets to exclude all of the minority, and the minority gets to exclude a lot of majority members in order of hate. If the majority is comfortably large, they also get to exclude some of their own.</em></p></blockquote><p>When I read this comment for the first time, I got a sparkle in my eye. It was a sparkle I knew too well, from having already pinned my hopes on forty-seven other elegant-sounding solutions to the problem back in June (only to be disappointed each time), but that didn&#8217;t stop me from hoping. Gilbert&#8217;s idea makes sense! It&#8217;s beautiful! It&#8217;s simple! It&#8217;s so easy!</p><p>It doesn&#8217;t work.</p><p>Here&#8217;s how you kill it: the majority party selects a candidate (probably someone who won a popular primary election of some sort). The majority party then instructs its members to place that candidate last on their ballots. If all majority party members follow the instruction, they are guaranteed to win. If there are defections, they still win as long as they still have a majority of the body following the instruction. If they don&#8217;t have a large enough majority to spare the defectors, they <em>probably</em> still win anyway, unless the opposition has an equally coordinated campaign for an alternate that has managed to efficiently pick up all the defectors.</p><p>So this method reduces to a simple internal party caucus with extra steps. The center is, as usual, squeezed out.</p><p>I&#8217;m sorry. I loved this idea.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a> I really wanted it to work. Even after it didn&#8217;t work, it gave me an idea that sent me to the lab for <s>two</s> three days with that same sparkle in my eye (greatly delaying the publication of this article!). Alas, at the moment, it&#8217;s looking like my idea might just reduce to Bucklin all over again. </p><div><hr></div><blockquote><p><em><a href="https://substack.com/@alexandermackay">ALEXANDER MACKAY</a>: This might be a crude solution, but what if we simply make it so that, after a certain number of rounds of voting, if the legislature can&#8217;t agree on a candidate, they must all resign, and are ineligible from ever holding any political office ever again? That would almost certainly outweigh any pressure from party bosses.</em></p></blockquote><p>The difficulty I see with this is that it allows an intransigent minority with nothing to destroy a majority at its whim. If this were the constitutional rule, and I were, say, the Georgia Democratic Party, I&#8217;d recruit a bunch of randos from in and around Atlanta to run for state senate. They would win, by and large, because the great majority of state senate seats are very safe seats, especially in these polarized times. Holding one-third of the Georgia Senate in my grasp, I would tell the GOP three-fifths majority, &#8220;Agree to elect Stacey Abrams. My senators will vote for no one else. If you refuse, we will destroy all your political careers.&#8221; What sane, ambitious local pol would ever agree to run for state senate under those conditions? You may ask, &#8220;Would any politician in the United States <em>ever</em> willingly take an action that would bar him from re-election?&#8221; Ask the <a href="https://apnews.com/article/oregon-republican-walkout-reelection-f1d270db9e9a72935c13b973d79a4bb7">2023 GOP members of the Oregon House</a>! (Now imagine if they could have taken the <em>rest</em> of the Oregon House down with them!)</p><p>Granted, that&#8217;s an extreme example. However, members in a persistent minority, who have no real hopes of ever moving to statewide office (because their state is the wrong color), have <em>much</em> less to lose than those in the majority. That&#8217;s always going to be a factor in negotiations. I do (desperately) want to give the minority party <em>some</em> leverage in these elections, where the original Constitution gave them none at all. However, I think this gives the minority rather too <em>much</em> leverage.</p><div><hr></div><blockquote><p><em><a href="https://substack.com/@anthony610311">ANTHONY</a>: If no nominee is elected within two calendar days, all nominees who received a majority of approval votes shall be listed in order of age. If the list is at least three nominees, the nominee with the median age is selected. If the are are an even number of nominees, the older (or younger?) of the two median nominees shall be selected. If fewer than three nominees received a majority of approval votes, the list shall be all members of the voting body who are eligible to serve in the Senate.</em></p></blockquote><p>I have a deep and abiding fondness for election by sortition. Injecting an element of randomness into elections probably does not reduce candidate quality, but probably <em>does</em> reduce candidate ambition. Too, I&#8217;ve always agreed way down in my bones with the old Buckley aphorism: &#8220;I would rather be governed by the first 2,000 people in the telephone directory than by the Harvard University faculty,&#8221; which is basically what you&#8217;d expect from a lottery system. I have puzzled for a long time whether the solution to our Seventeenth Amendment problem might involve some added element of randomness.</p><p>However, this is not the way. The reason is the same as all the others: it allows a coordinated majority party to control the outcome with no tug from the minority. Here&#8217;s how:</p><p>Suppose you are the leader of the majority in the state senate. Your primary voters have instructed you to support a specific candidate, so you duly put him up for nomination. Your party gets him a majority (obviously) but can&#8217;t get him to two-thirds without support from the minority. No matter! You instruct your caucus to vote no on all other nominees brought forth by anyone, especially the minority party. A few are tempted to defect, but not enough. Two calendar days expire with no one reaching the two-thirds threshold, so we go to your method of choosing between candidates who secured a majority. There was only one. He wins. </p><p>Suppose somehow you <em>do</em> somehow find yourself with another person on the list of people who got a majority. Maybe there was a communications snafus, or maybe your party started out negotiating in good faith. Is your preferred nominee at risk? Not at all! All you have to do is find someone&#8212;anyone!&#8212;in the state who is older/younger than your favored nominee (as appropriate) and, before two calendar days expires, nominate him. You instruct a bare majority of your caucus to support him, assuring them that this is simply a strategic move to ensure the victory of the guy you all <em>really</em> want. They have every reason to believe you can deliver (because you can), so they do as you say. Your preferred candidate is now the median guy by age again. The minority party tries to counter with a nominee of their own to keep the randomness alive, but you block them. </p><p>Even if they <em>could</em> get a nominee through, there&#8217;s a rule of only one nominee per pair of senators, and there&#8217;s more senators in the majority than the minority, so you will <em>always</em> get the last word here.</p><p>So this method reduces to a simple internal party caucus with extra steps.</p><div><hr></div><blockquote><p><em>DANIEL PAREJA: I said this before in the context of electing Popes, but just elect Senators in the way Venice elected its doge [as of the year 1269]. Yes, many state legislatures are too small to use the full procedure, so instead specify the election of a representative assembly in a manner consistent with the method of election of the most populous branch of the state legislature and no smaller than it, and no smaller than, say, two hundred members.</em></p></blockquote><p>I love this, too. The doge election method is fantastic. If you don&#8217;t know it, here is <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210206052434/https://www.hpl.hp.com/techreports/2007/HPL-2007-28R1.pdf">a summary</a>:</p><ol><li><p>The Great Council of Venice (300-400 people) meets to elect the doge.</p></li><li><p>Thirty members of the Council (&#8220;The Thirty&#8221;)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a> were chosen by lot.</p></li><li><p>Nine of the Thirty (&#8220;The First Nine&#8221;) were chosen by lot.</p></li><li><p>The First Nine chose forty men by vote, requiring seven out of nine to agree to each candidate before electing them to the Forty.</p></li><li><p>Of the Forty, twelve were chosen by lot.</p></li><li><p>The Twelve elected twenty-five, requiring nine approvals out of twelve.</p></li><li><p>Of the Twenty-Five, nine were chosen by lot (&#8220;The Second Nine&#8221;).</p></li><li><p>The Second Nine elected forty-five men, requiring seven approvals of nine.</p></li><li><p>Of the Forty-Five, eleven were chosen by lot.</p></li><li><p>The Eleven elected forty-one men, requiring nine approvals of eleven.</p></li><li><p>The Forty-One, finally, elected the Doge&#8230; requiring twenty-five approvals of forty-one, just for one last supermajority requirement.</p></li></ol><p>Wasn&#8217;t I just saying our election methods should include a little more randomness? This system appears to have worked rather well. It stood from 1268 until Venice fell to Napoleon in 1797, which is a hell of a lot longer than the electoral college worked!</p><p>However. This method existed in a republic with a very different electoral system feeding the Great Council and no strong political parties (as far as I know), which appears to have introduced so many layers to the process as a protection against <em>bribery</em>,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a> which is not a huge concern in American elections today.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a> Would it work here? </p><p>My (somewhat naive) guess is that, in any legislature that&#8217;s inclined to deadlock over a supermajority requirement, this procedure would <em>usually </em>deadlock just as badly&#8230; at <em>every</em> stage where it applies a supermajority requirement. <em>Maybe</em> not? Maybe certain subgroups of legislators are able to forge consensus where the full body wasn&#8217;t capable of doing that? However, it&#8217;s hard for me to imagine exactly how that would happen, and, if it did happen, it would be dictated by the luck of the draw in the reduction-by-lot rounds. To avoid deadlock, it would need to happen <em>a lot</em>.</p><p>The reduction-by-lot rounds already seem dangerous to me, because they run the risk of (randomly) handing one of our two political parties <em>just </em>enough seats on the Nines, the Twelve, or the Eleven to push through their nominees with no input from the majority. If that happened, the party that lucked into control would be able to dictate the rest of the process with trivial effort. After all, if there&#8217;s 7 Democrats on the Second Nine, then it doesn&#8217;t matter if the Republicans hold 65% of the chamber. The Democrats can appoint all Democrats to the Forty-Five, so the Eleven is all Democrats, who then easily agree on the Forty-One, who then elect whatever radical they want with no possibility of opposition from the Republicans.</p><p>If that happens, the method reduces to a simple internal party caucus with extra steps (but with the minority caucus randomly winning sometimes). If it <em>doesn&#8217;t</em> happen, it seems to me what it&#8217;s most likely to do is turn a single deadlock into an extended series of deadlocks.</p><blockquote><p><em><a href="https://substack.com/@krkrenn">KRENN</a>: [O]ne of the easier filters would just be to ban people who have experience with first-past-the-post elections from being senators.</em> </p><p><em>&#8230;If the problem is that Senators have too many of the vices and virtues caused by running for popular democratic elections, then step one is to ensure that success at running in a popular democratic election can&#8217;t ever contribute to becoming a senator.</em></p><p><em>Likewise, if the problem is that Senators weren&#8217;t independent enough and were becoming party creatures... limiting their opportunity to get used to being party creatures by holding other offices controlled by party-run elections is also potentially helpful.</em></p><p>&#8230;<em>And while we&#8217;re at at it:</em></p><p><em>Rule 2: No person who has served in the Federal Judiciary may ever again run for, or hold office in, or otherwise be employed by, any part of the federal executive or legislative branches. But prior service in those branches is not disqualifying from being a member of the federal judiciary.</em></p><p><em>&#8230;Rule 2 is about preventing conflicts of interest. Post-civil war, I believe there was a Supreme Court chief justice who made same really strange rulings, because he thought it would best position him for a future presidential run. And senators make strange votes or take strange positions all the time because they think it will better position them for runs as presidents, or to be a senior cabinet member for the next president from their party. I would prefer to remove that temptation by simply stating that once you&#8217;re a senator, you can&#8217;t ever go back to being a member of the executive branch.</em></p></blockquote><p>Krenn&#8217;s comment goes on to explain in some detail how, exactly, one would accomplish this.</p><p>I understand the impulse, but I don&#8217;t think this would play out the way one would hope. Political parties routinely identify and run non-politician candidates for high office, from the Traditional Buckets of Populism:<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a></p><ul><li><p>Businessman who argues his experience in real-world business competition means he&#8217;ll do better than a career politician at the job of&#8230; legislating (Bernie Moreno, Eric Hovde, Donald Trump, Kelly Loeffler)</p></li><li><p>Retired soldier who points to his honorable service record and obvious patriotism, as if these are sufficient qualifications to be the expert legislator a U.S. Senator needs to be (Mikie Sherrill when she ran for House, Tammy Duckworth when she ran for House, J.D. Vance, Tim Sheehey)</p><ul><li><p><em>Folksy</em> retired soldier who can posture as an independent (Dan Osborn, Graham Platner)</p></li></ul></li><li><p>Celebrities (Dr. Oz, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Mark Kelly, Donald Trump again, Jesse Ventura)</p></li></ul><p>These groups of people pretty consistently turn out to be, not just demagogues, but the worst demagogues of all. Having absolutely no idea what is involved in running a government, they make wild promises on the trail and (often) turn into the worst kinds of attention-seeking fundraising grift-trains once they make it into office.</p><p>They are also brought forward by their political parties because political parties have no shortage of people of this sort. Political parties are huge, jam-packed with activists who have spent many years in service. Some of them have stellar records and the low talents of the campaign stump. A few end up in the Senate.</p><p>Again, I understand the impulse, but I don&#8217;t think this would play out in a way that advances our objectives.</p><p>Now, it&#8217;s perfectly possible that it would advance other objectives! I am intrigued by the idea of making some high offices automatically fatal to a political career as a means of countering conflicts of interest. That might be a separate proposal worth considering. However, I think that&#8217;s beyond the scope of today&#8217;s article, which is strictly about fixing the U.S. Senate.</p><h2>Goodharting DW-NOMINATE</h2><p>We used to have <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/44698645/campbells-law">Campbell&#8217;s Law</a>, the law of teaching to the test: &#8220;The more any quantitative social indicator is used for social decision-making, the more subject it will be to corruption pressures and the more apt it will be to distort and corrupt the social processes it is intended to monitor.&#8221;</p><p>Then the Internet discovered Goodhart&#8217;s Law: &#8220;<em>When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure.&#8221;</em></p><p>And, like, <em>dang</em>, that <em>is</em> a much better way of putting it. </p><p>I put DW-NOMINATE at the heart of the rarely-used &#8220;fallback election&#8221; in my proposal because I think it is fairly robust against &#8220;Goodharting&#8221; (that is, the exploitation of a politically inert or neutral system the moment it becomes politically advantageous). Many of you disagreed!</p><p>Quite a lot, actually!</p><div><hr></div><blockquote><p><em>GILBERT: The amendment has a hard-coded assumption that recorded votes by name and roll-call votes are the same thing. I don&#8217;t know if this is currently true as a matter of American ritual but it is certainly gameable. Just hold votes likely to produce the desired statistics by roll-call and others by electronic device, signed ballot, division, or whatever.</em></p></blockquote><p>In American parliamentary law, any vote where the yeas and nays of each member are recorded is a roll call vote. Every electronic device used for recording votes is universally known as an &#8220;electronic roll call system.&#8221; Signed ballots are so rare that <em>Mason&#8217;s Manual</em> 2010 doesn&#8217;t even mention them, instead assuming that ballots are, by definition, secret. A recent edition of <em>Robert&#8217;s</em> mentions them, but treats them as functionally equivalent to a roll call. You could change the names of these things, maybe rename your electronic voting system to &#8220;electronic voting system that is used instead of a roll call, which is a very different thing,&#8221; but this would not change the original public meaning of the amendment as-proposed, and therefore would not get around the amendment.</p><p>However, it is possible to conceive of legislatures trying to use wordplay to avoid the clear dictate of the amendment. This may call for slightly more refined language, but, more to the point, this is one place where it would be useful to have judicial oversight over any majority parties tempted to vandalize centuries of parliamentary law in order to win.</p><div><hr></div><blockquote><p><em>MASTRICHT: DW-Nominate can be rigged. At the end of a session, just spend many votes on utterly trivial matters. Have the one faction vote but in lockstep, but without informing the other side how they will vote. Have the desired nominee vote to the contrary. If any partisans of one&#8217;s own side are defecting, one can probe by telling them the opposite, and cut them out&#8212;one only needs the buy-in of a majority to keep forcing votes. The body of votes added by this process will, on average, make the desired candidate seem more opposed to the majority party than *any* member of the opposition.</em></p></blockquote><p>This is all well and good until you remember that, first, roll call votes are <em>typically</em> taken by electronic roll call system, so everyone can see who&#8217;s voting and how&#8212;and change their votes accordingly. Second, roll call votes taken &#8220;manually&#8221; proceed in alphabetical order, revealing the votes of one faction to the other during the vote&#8212;and, before the result is announced, a member can generally change his vote. As <em>Robert&#8217;s Rules</em> puts it: </p><blockquote><p><strong>Changing One&#8217;s Vote.</strong> Except when the vote has been taken by ballot (or some other method that provides secrecy), a member has a right to change his vote up to the time the result is announced but afterward can make the change only by the unanimous consent of the assembly requested and granted, without debate, immediately following the chair&#8217;s announcement of the result of the vote.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a></p></blockquote><p>So you could certainly call a roll call vote on a trivial matter, but the minority party will get to decide whether or not to allow you to manipulate DW-NOMINATE scores with the outcome.</p><p>It is possible to imagine state senate majorities cramming contrary rules down the throats of their minority parties so that majority-party voters have inherent advantages over minority-party voters, but this would no longer be a roll call vote in the parliamentary sense. (This is not the first time anyone has ever tried to exploit voting procedures! Parliamentary law is pretty robust on this stuff!) Again, a good place for courts to have some oversight, so that centuries of parliamentary law, rather than the vandalizing majority, can get the last word.</p><div><hr></div><p>Related:</p><blockquote><p><em>KRENN: The party in control of the house decrees that there will be three votes a day, on whether to break for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. 40% of the controlling party is ordered to either abstain or vote against the break. Bam, the &#8216;designated moderates&#8217;, who aren&#8217;t really moderates, just increased their moderation score by voting with the opposition three times a day every session. If the opposition catches on, and starts to vote against breaks, then you simply order the sergeant-at-arms to chain them to their desks and not give them any food until they vote in favor of breaking for food, so the &#8216;moderate&#8217; can vote with them.</em></p></blockquote><p>If majority parties had the power to arbitrarily chain legislators to their desks&#8212;legislators <em>from one party</em>, no less!&#8212;until they voted a certain specific way, don&#8217;t you think they would have used it before 2025? The Nazis and the Italian Fascists did this sort of thing on occasional key votes, but it was a harbinger of the imminent end of democracy.</p><p>Again, though, it would be good for this to be justiciable, so legislators could be assured of courts vindicating them if the majority tries to chain them to their desks, rather than there being any risk of it being treated as &#8220;a political question.&#8221;</p><div><hr></div><blockquote><p><em>GILBERT: I don&#8217;t know how easy it is for isolated members to force votes in the various legislatures, but if it isn&#8217;t hard it probably can be made so. If roll-calls just happen very rarely, new members can be kept disqualified for a long time.</em></p></blockquote><p>It is generally very easy, and very hard to make hard. As <em>Mason&#8217;s Manual</em> explains:</p><blockquote><p><strong>Sec. 536. Voting by Ballot. #1</strong>: Voting by ballot is rarely, if ever, used in legislative bodies, because the members vote in a representative capacity and their constituents are entitled to know how their representatives vote. In order to ensure that right, constitutions usually require that all bills be passed by roll call and that the vote be recorded in the journal, and also that a small number can require a roll call on any question and have the vote recorded in the journal.</p></blockquote><p>If you can get the voters to sign off on a change to the state constitution, though, there could be a problem. Unfortunately, that&#8217;s somewhat plausible in a world where California Proposition 50 just passed (as gerrymander retaliation), but still strikes me, at least, as unlikely to win majority support.</p><div><hr></div><blockquote><p><em>KRENN: There are also many shenanigans available by, say, controlling who gets to close the vote, when. Maybe minority-party legislators have to cast their vote and stick with it, but majority-party legislators can switch their votes en masse at the last second, and then the vote-counter closes the vote right afterwards.</em></p></blockquote><p>Generally speaking, voting continues until all members have cast votes, or until a majority votes to close voting&#8230; but votes can still be changed. I really don&#8217;t think you could get away with having significantly different voting rights for minority and majority members. Past a certain point, that becomes not just a parliamentary rules issue but a federal issue under the &#8220;republican form of government&#8221; clause. I think that point arrives pretty quick, which is why there&#8217;s so little precedent for it in American political history, even before/during/after the Civil War.</p><p>That being said, parliamentary bodies do cheat on vote closures at times. I&#8217;ve seen them do it. They get away with it under current law largely because it makes only a procedural difference, not a substantive one. Another place where it would be good to be able to have a court say, &#8220;Now hang on, I&#8217;ve read your rulebook, and what you just did isn&#8217;t in it.&#8221;</p><div><hr></div><blockquote><p><em>GILBERT: In the edge-case of perfect party-discipline DW-NOMINATE will collapse the spectrum to two points and the ranking will become undefined. With not-quite-but-near perfect party discipline it will be much easier to game or near random.</em></p></blockquote><p>Collapse requires not just perfect party unanimity, but perfect party <em>attendance</em>. No deaths, no resignations, no vacation days, no excused absences, no car breakdowns. It also requires cooperation from the minority party. Good luck with it!</p><p>If you could pull it off, though, the median legislator would not be undefined. You&#8217;d still line up all their DW-NOMINATE scores on a line and find the value of the one in the middle. It would be the DW-NOMINATE score of the majority party. Under my proposal, you would then nominate the entire majority and have a ranked-choice ballot among them. This stupid failure state would allow the majority to elect whoever it wanted from among them, but again, it requires minority cooperation, so I&#8217;m not worried about it.</p><p> </p><div><hr></div><blockquote><p><em>GILBERT: If the presiding officer of the state senate doesn&#8217;t like the expected section 2 winner, he can force section 3 by not waiting for nominations and just recessing the section 2 session immediately after opening it.</em></p></blockquote><p>This isn&#8217;t about DW-NOMINATE, but, since it&#8217;s of a piece with several other concerns, I&#8217;ll mention it here: </p><p>The presiding officer of a body is not generally empowered to adjourn or recess the body by himself. The motion to recess is a privileged motion, passed on a second and a majority vote (usually a voice vote or unanimous consent, since motions to recess are rarely controversial). If he tries to (falsely) rule that there are &#8220;no further nominations&#8221; in order to hasten Section Three, that&#8217;s a ruling of the presiding officer, which is appealable to the body. (Again, I speak in generalities, since I can&#8217;t speak to the specifics of the rules in every state.)</p><p>Now, if the entire majority wants to terminate Section Two to hasten a Section Three election by voting a recess, I suppose that&#8217;s fine, but it&#8217;s not obvious why they would <em>want</em> to. It is impossible for anyone to win in Section Two without the agreement of a majority of the body anyway (indeed, a super-majority), so, in general, the majority has nothing to worry about by letting Section Two play out. Moreover, moving from a Section Two election to Section Three election has high costs. It tightly restricts the nominees to a small set, and greatly raises the probability that someone will be elected without the support of a majority of the majority. Strategically, it is better to play out Section Two and hope for a win there before the system forces you into the unpleasant and unpredictable Section Three. </p><p>Indeed, the <em>threat</em> of Section Three is a big part of what I think would make this system work! Section Three is unpleasant and railroaded! Parties and members will want to avoid it&#8230; and that&#8217;s what will get them to the negotiating table to compromise.</p><div><hr></div><blockquote><p><em>DANIEL: Next: If you want to make your specification of DW-NOMINATE more proof against chicanery, you can say something like &#8220;as defined on such-and-such date&#8221;. (More on this later in this comment.)</em></p></blockquote><p>This is a good idea. I might even add, &#8220;in such-and-such source document.&#8221; I hesitated, because it&#8217;s more words in a wordy proposal, but, hey, in for a penny&#8230;</p><div><hr></div><blockquote><p><em>GILBERT: Even if you ban [roll-call order manipulation], it is still easy for both parties to make a pact to statistically demoderate their respective moderates.</em></p></blockquote><p>Hey, if you can somehow convince the minority party to allow you to manipulate DW-NOMINATE to ensure your preferred nominee becomes the next senator from your state&#8230; and the minority party agrees, and its members go along with it&#8230; then haven&#8217;t you just achieved exactly the cross-party consensus we were trying to force you to elect all along? Either you just elected a centrist, or you gave the minority party commensurate concessions to elect an ideologue.</p><p>I&#8217;m fine with this. Cross-party pact away.</p><p>(I do not expect this to actually work, except in legislatures where a two-thirds consensus candidate is already achievable.)</p><h2>Unwilling Senators</h2><blockquote><p><em>EVAN TRIANGLE: In your proposal, if nobody gets chosen by Section 2 consensus, Section 3 says the Senator must be one of several specific members of the nominating state legislature. I&#8217;m dubious about what this will do to the legislature. Worse, I can easily imagine a specific legislator who&#8217;s somehow unable to move to DC (whether due to medical issues, family issues, or any number of other things) who messes up the political calculus of balloting. Perhaps the legislators in question could have the option of nominating someone else (by secret ballot so it&#8217;s unknown who&#8217;s nominating them), rather than themselves be automatically nominated? Or, simpler, decline the nomination and have the next-closest-scoring legislator be drafted?</em></p></blockquote><blockquote><p><em>KRENN: What if none of the &#8216;moderate&#8217; &#8216;state senators&#8217; actually WANT to be federal senators? Moving their family to DC sounds like a lot of work. Maybe they would prefer to just stay home. Or maybe they were bribed to say that.</em></p></blockquote><p>There is an ancient American tradition, which goes like this:</p><p>You&#8217;re not supposed to <em>want</em> to be elected. It&#8217;s supposed to be a heavy burden that is laid upon you reluctantly, which you decline over and over again, but finally, when your fellows show just how much they need you, then, at last, you make your decision. Will you bear this burden for the country? If so, you accept. If no, you decline and the convention is back to square one. Now, we&#8217;ve become so used to the degenerate <em>mores</em> of a declining democracy that it seems somehow <em>wrong</em> to elect someone who has the good sense not to want the job! If such politicians still exist, that&#8217;s exactly whom I&#8217;d hope to elect!</p><p>Of course, it is possible that someone might refuse election.</p><p>In my proposal, the resolution mechanism is straightforward but costly. Having been elected, the senate vacancy is filled. The new U.S. Senator can now resign his seat, creating a new vacancy. The entire process begins again, going all the way back to Section Two.</p><p>I don&#8217;t think it would be wise to allow nominated median senators to nominate substitutes, as Evan suggests, since this would naturally create great pressure on them to nominate (who else?) the party&#8217;s preferred pick. The secret nomination Evan suggests would not help alleviate the pressure, since, if the party&#8217;s preferred pick were <em>not</em> nominated, party bosses would know that their entire slate of nominees is to blame. The option to decline the nomination would simply focus incredible pressure on each majority-party senator to decline until the party&#8217;s choice was selected.</p><p>However, it&#8217;s a fair point that a senator may, sometimes, have burdens he truly can&#8217;t set aside to serve in Washington for a few years, and that his fellow senators may elect him anyway. In that case, it seems to me that it would be fine for him, after his election, to refuse the office, and then have it pass to the second-place winner instead (and so on), rather than restarting the entire process from square one. I think it worthwhile to revise the proposal to include something along these lines.</p><p>However, if <em>everyone</em> on the nominees list refuses? That&#8217;s <em>probably</em> three or four people. (It&#8217;s at least two.) If three consecutive politicians elected to the U.S. Senate refuse to serve as U.S. Senators, then you probably <em>do</em> have some kind of bribery problem. The last thing you can do at <em>that</em> point is give the bribers what they want (other nomination options). You&#8217;ve got to restart the process at Section Two. Sorry, deadlocks are terrible, but if your state <em>deliberately</em> deadlocks itself like this, <em>intentionally</em> overcoming all the safeguards through corruption and whatnot, then, I&#8217;m sorry, <a href="https://clip.cafe/the-hitchhikers-guide-the-galaxy-2005/apathetic-bloody-planet-s1/">you earned it</a>. Figure it out.</p><h2>Sneaky State Senate Shenanigans</h2><p>My proposal consigned U.S. Senate elections to the state senates, not the legislatures as a whole. There were a number of reasons for this. One of them was because it helped prevent all the parliamentary shenanigans y&#8217;all just tried out! State senates have pretty well-developed rules of order and precedents. Joint legislative sessions, as a general rule, do not.</p><p>However, because Nebraska has a unicameral legislature, I didn&#8217;t say, &#8220;&#8230;chosen by the state senate.&#8221; I said, &#8220;&#8230;chosen by the least numerous branch of the legislature thereof.&#8221; This gave you guys some Ideas!</p><div><hr></div><blockquote><p><em>CHRISTOPHER M. RUSSO: A highly-partisan state could pass a constitutional amendment creating a third legislative chamber with two members, each elected every six years by popular vote in a statewide election. This third chamber serves no legislative function. It is merely a proxy election for the state&#8217;s U.S. Senator.</em></p></blockquote><blockquote><p><em>GILBERT: I don&#8217;t think the states are required to make consent of all branches of the legislature necessary for legislation. Certainly various kinds of overridable upper-house vetos are common internationally. So a state constitution could just make the governor into a single-member and therefore least numerous branch of the legislature with the same veto power he now has outside of it. Or even have a &#8220;house of the senate majority leader&#8221;.</em></p></blockquote><blockquote><p><em>MASTRICHT: So, the relevant body is whatever branch of the legislature has the least members. We can easily convert this back into a statewide senatorial scheme by erecting a new chamber with a single representative. This would allow, effectively, for popular election (but done 2+ years in advance), or, I suppose one could have rig a scheme where, while nominally popular, in practice this chamber will usually filled by appointments from the governor.</em></p></blockquote><p>Some of this makes me go, &#8220;Man, this is why we need the courts to be able to justice this thing.&#8221; </p><p>I don&#8217;t think the executive branch can lawfully be construed as part of the legislative branch, especially if it doesn&#8217;t do anything. I don&#8217;t think an inert chamber with no legislative function lawfully qualifies as a branch of the legislature. A court could just say so.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a> </p><p>After all, we already have a similar clause in the Constitution:</p><blockquote><p>&#8230;Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.</p></blockquote><p>To my knowledge, nobody has even <em>tried</em> making a gigantic third state &#8220;legislative&#8221; house with no powers and restricted suffrage qualifications simply to game this requirement. <em>Could</em> they? I like to think not!</p><p>However, I could be wrong. The text itself doesn&#8217;t explicitly prohibit it, and maybe the only reason people spent centuries not doing this is because there was no partisan advantage in doing so. </p><p>Moreover, Gilbert suggested adding a third house of the legislature with <em>some</em> legislative powers. These would be very weak powers, along the lines of the House of Lords&#8230; but it would be enough to qualify the chamber as a legislature. That would suffice for the third house to perform its true purpose: handing control over the U.S. Senate election to a single political party. This is best avoided.</p><p>I hesitate to be too prescriptive about the structure of state legislative houses in a constitutional amendment proposal, but I think you guys are right that the amendment ought to define a branch of the legislature as an elected chamber with at least ten members whose consent is necessary to the passage of any law. Does that sound reasonable? It certainly seems rather harder to game.</p><p>A sidebar on language.</p><div><hr></div><blockquote><p><em>CHRISTOPHER M. RUSSO</em>: (Nitpick: In Section 1, I would write &#8220;least numerous chamber&#8221; not &#8220;least numerous branch.&#8221;)</p></blockquote><p>Me, too, but the Constitution says &#8220;branch.&#8221; </p><p>When the Founders used it in Article I, Section 2, I said to myself, &#8220;Okay, that&#8217;s just Founding-era obsolete vocabulary.&#8221; Alas, then they did it <em>again</em> in 1912 with the Seventeenth Amendment, which also uses the &#8220;most numerous branch&#8221; construction.</p><p>I still agree that &#8220;chamber&#8221; is better, and we should use it if we&#8217;re writing non-constitutional text, but, if the Constitution has used the same construction twice, I&#8217;m going to stick with it, for fear that changing that one word will have some horrible legal consequence I haven&#8217;t thought of.</p><h2>Some Nitty and Some Gritty on the Voting</h2><p>My proposal says that, if there are <em>no</em> eligible nominees in the state senate, then the election is suspended and the state can&#8217;t have a U.S. Senator until it finds some.</p><blockquote><p><em>EVAN TRIANGLE</em>: I don&#8217;t like suspending the Senatorial election when no eligible candidates present themselves under Section 3. I can see how it might be good to completely prevent party bosses from manipulating things thusly - but I think it&#8217;d be impractical for them to make all longserving state legislators resign! So I&#8217;d replace that with something like the three legislators nearest to qualifying.</p></blockquote><p>The reason I took this (admittedly brutal) approach was because I couldn&#8217;t imagine a circumstance where there would be no eligible candidates <em>except</em> if party bosses had (somehow) manipulated all long-serving state senators out of the body. Having done so, they deserve to be punished with a lack of representation until they fix it.</p><p>After all, when in American history has there been a state senate without <em>one single </em>thirty-year old citizen who has served at least two years in the body?<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-14" href="#footnote-14" target="_self">14</a></p><p>(&#8230;That&#8217;s not a rhetorical question. I feel like you, Evan Triangle, might actually know this.)</p><p>If I&#8217;ve overlooked some reasonably plausible scenario where a state senate might have no qualified nominees for legitimate reasons, I&#8217;ll recant. For now, though, I&#8217;m inclined to keep the restriction in, because the only situations where it becomes a problem seem to be situations where it <em>ought </em>to become a problem.</p><div><hr></div><blockquote><p><em>MASTRICHT: As to a voting system, definitionally, a majority will always be able to push through a Condorcet winner. If you want to force moderation, you do not want an electoral system that always elects Condorcet winners. As is, this drops the threshold for guaranteed partisan victory from 2/3 to a 50.01% bloc.</em></p></blockquote><p>Once the state senate has deadlocked, and you have decided (as I did) that it must immediately resolve the deadlock, you have to pick a voting system that guarantees deadlock resolution, which leaves you with, basically, two choices:</p><ul><li><p>First-past-the-post, which allows someone to win with as little as, say, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1860_United_States_presidential_election">39% of the vote</a>, or</p></li><li><p>Some majority-winner system like Condorcet, which at least requires someone to win 50%+.</p></li></ul><p>Of course, Mastricht is absolutely correct that a Condorcet system cannot give the minority even the slightest bit of leverage. There just isn&#8217;t a viable voting system for a small, well-coordinated,  highly tactical electorate that requires a two-thirds support threshold. It&#8217;s majority rule or plurality rule or deadlock.</p><p>That is why DW-NOMINATE is in the proposal to filter nominees. Given these constraints, restricting the list of nominees is vastly more important than the details of the final voting. DW-NOMINATE ensures that <em>all</em> the final candidates are (relatively) moderate. </p><p>I frankly assume that, in most cases, the majority party will then identify the most conservative / most progressive nominee and then vote <em>en masse</em> for him, guaranteeing a first-round Condorcet victory. But they&#8217;ll still be irritated, because the &#8220;most conservative / most progressive&#8221; nominee isn&#8217;t very conservative/progressive at all, since the nominees were all forced to be the most moderate members of the chamber.</p><p>That&#8217;s the best idea I had without accepting deadlock.</p><h2>Section 4: Special Fast-Track Process to Amend this Amendment</h2><blockquote><p><em><span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Sathya Ra&#273;a&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:104491345,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/bdde49e1-cc4c-48e0-a034-1e345b1d3c56_1200x1600.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;1b0112f3-c321-422f-a87d-004cd037bf4f&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>: 1) I would add a topic or substantial similarity limitation in section 4, just in case</em></p></blockquote><blockquote><p><em>GILBERT: There is no topical limitation on section 3, so section 4 is effectively an unlimited power to amend the constitution.</em></p></blockquote><p>Oops!</p><p>Yes, this was an oversight. </p><p>To say the least.</p><blockquote><p><em>EVAN TRIANGLE: I absolutely do not want the House to be able to immediately change the Senatorial election method. At least, follow the Parliament Act of 1911 and make the House pass the same proposal twice over two years (which in our case will mean a general election intervenes).</em></p></blockquote><p>Perhaps I should never have gone down this road of allowing a special amendment process in the first place. I did it, of course, because this thing is very complex (too complex) and I didn&#8217;t think it could be bulletproofed until it had been tried out. This betrays my lack of confidence that my proposal would really work right out of the gate.</p><p>Assuming <em>arguendo</em> that there ought to be a fast-track amendment process, I think it has to be the House that is given this power. It can&#8217;t be the Senate! It&#8217;s bad enough that the current House and Senate, fearing for their own power, refuse to propose gerrymandering amendments or expand-the-house amendments or anything else that might structurally reform them. We can hardly give control over the Senate election process to the Senate. Moreover, seventy-five percent of the House is a <em>huge</em> threshold, so this power couldn&#8217;t be invoked casually.</p><p>All that said, I&#8217;m fine with the suggestion of forcing them to pass it twice, with an election intervening. Forget the Parliament Act 1911; Nevada already does this with amendments to their state constitution, so it&#8217;s thoroughly American and strikes me as quite sensible.</p><h2>Section 5: Voiding Pledges, Vows, and Oaths</h2><blockquote><p><em>GILBERT: As far as I understand it, unconstitutional and federally preempted laws in the US are unenforceable but stay on the books (and maybe become enforceable later if the higher law changes). Section 5 would create a unique exception by potentially making a provision of a state constitution not just unenforceable but actually void. In German legal terms, you have reinvented Geltungsvorrang (validity precedence) while previously American law only [k]new Anwendungsvorrang (application precedence).</em></p></blockquote><p>I answer in two ways.</p><p><em>At a practical level:</em></p><p>Naturally, once an amendment like this picks up momentum, these provisions tend to work their way out state constitutions anyway. Indeed, this has already largely happened, because pretty much all state-law provisions binding or &#8220;instructing&#8221; legislators to elect certain U.S. Senators vanished either just after the Seventeenth Amendment was ratified, or in the century since. As far as I know, then, this difficulty is purely theoretical as applied to the Senate.</p><p>(Note, however, that there is an identical section in <em><a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/towards-an-unelected-president">De Civitate</a></em><a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/towards-an-unelected-president">&#8217;s proposed presidential election amendment</a>. That very much <em>does</em> stomp all over a bunch of existing state laws binding the electoral college, so it&#8217;s still worth considering this at a higher level.)</p><p><em>At a theoretical level:</em></p><p>We proposed an amendment banning slavery while several state constitutions still explicitly protected it.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-15" href="#footnote-15" target="_self">15</a>  The suffrage amendments (extending the right to vote to women and The Youth) did not, I suppose, directly <em>contradict</em> state clauses defining electors as being older than twenty-one, but they certainly created, shall we say, some constitutional tension! Texas had a provision in its constitution after 1879 regulating alcohol and expressly requiring that prohibition be decided by local elections, not by any higher authority. The Prohibition amendment obviously stomped on that.</p><p>It worked out, so I&#8217;m sure this will, too.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-16" href="#footnote-16" target="_self">16</a></p><div><hr></div><blockquote><p><em>MASTRICHT: After the fact punishments seem entirely permissible by parties here. What is to stop them from allocating funding for reelection as they wish? Of course, the ballots being secret makes this harder to do.</em></p></blockquote><p>Your last sentence hits the nail on the head.</p><p>Section Five, on its own, doesn&#8217;t break the power of the parties. Not even close. There are endless informal and indirect mechanisms that the parties can use to pressure, reward, and (if necessary) retaliate against rebels. Section Five does only two things:</p><ul><li><p>It breaks all their mechanisms of formal control, plus all future mechanisms of formal control they might try to develop under the new rules.</p></li><li><p>No less important, it declares even informal mechanisms of control to be morally illegitimate. This can only be a norm, because there is no mechanism for enforcing it as a law, but norms are important. They shape how people understand the Constitution, and what forms of manipulation are and are not kosher.</p></li></ul><p>However, the actual defenses against informal party mechanisms of control lie elsewhere. The secret ballot is the first and most important. The requirement that every ballot rank every candidate is another. The two-thirds requirement in Section Two gives cover to party members who are already open to moderation and compromise but don&#8217;t have an excuse to do it. Finally, the harsh nomination restrictions in Section Three <em>force</em> lawmakers to choose between a handful of disfavored candidates neither party would ever select as a first choice. All of this makes it orders of magnitude harder for a party to identify rebels, or to reliably tell the difference between ideological dissent and smart tactics. Those incentives are much more important than Section 5.</p><p>Section 5 is still a good (and probably necessary) component, but it&#8217;s not doing nearly as much work as it appears on first reading.</p><div><hr></div><blockquote><p><em><span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Merem&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:24639177,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:null,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;9c1557b1-624d-483e-8c56-14f4a81e9389&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>: Why not just make it illegal for party organizations to endorse Senatorial candidates? You could even have a broad, vague legal understanding of what exactly is a &#8216;party organization&#8217; established through caselaw, to disincentivize attempting to work around the prohibition. Something like, &#8220;Any private organization that runs, nominates, or endorses candidate for election to public office may not endorse, nominate or otherwise select a candidate for any election to the United States Senate&#8221;. &#8230;By making it difficult for external organizations to express a universal preference, you make it easier for state senators to make their own decisions without having to fear directly defying powerful outside forces.</em></p></blockquote><p>This is a much more straightforward approach. If it could be carried out successfully, it wouldn&#8217;t eliminate <em>many</em> of the epicycles from this proposal. I&#8217;m not surprised it came to your mind, because it was also the first thing that came to mind when I considered the problem.</p><p>However, it has serious drawbacks. </p><p>First, it repeals some core parts of the First Amendment. The primary purpose of political parties (guaranteed by the freedom of association) is to endorse and support candidates (guaranteed by the freedom of speech). Nor is this some ancillary thing, like banning middle schoolers from saying &#8220;six-seven&#8221; in public schools. This is what the Supreme Court calls &#8220;core political speech,&#8221; the very speech that the First Amendment was designed to protect. Of course, we are writing a constitutional amendment here! <em>We are allowed to repeal the First Amendment!</em> However, I think that&#8217;s a very dangerous hole to poke in one of our <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/against-adrian-vermeule-ism">most important dams</a>. I think doing so would be wildly unpopular. I also think it would be polarizing along partisan lines, because limiting the First Amendment (especially with respect to political parties and campaign finance) is a major Democratic issue, and <a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/2014/09/well-take-free-speech-thank-you-editors/">resisting those restrictions</a> has become a core Republican issue. Once an amendment proposal picks up a partisan valence, it&#8217;s dead.</p><p>Second, even setting all that aside, I don&#8217;t think this approach is enforceable. Parties will always find ways of communicating, &#8220;vote for that guy&#8221; to their supporters, even if they never come right out and say it. Again, that&#8217;s their whole purpose! What this change <em>would</em> do is hand the party currently in control of the White House an immense cudgel for the most brutal lawfare this country has ever seen. Under either the Democrats <em>or</em> the Republicans, the Department of Justice would use this provision to ruthlessly persecute even a whisper of approbation for a candidate by the opposite party, while allowing their own party to openly hold primaries.</p><p>As much as I would like to simply and straightforwardly prevent political parties from collectively endorsing U.S. Senate candidates, there are some things that the law cannot accomplish, no matter how much is sacrificed along the way. This seems to be one of them.</p><p>Merem rejoins:</p><blockquote><p><em>This isn&#8217;t that major a new step in American law, either: we already do this in the tax code, where certain non-profits are banned from endorsing candidates. That would give you an existing body of law to build on.</em></p></blockquote><p>These restrictions don&#8217;t really work. Non-profits are all still allowed to do &#8220;issue advocacy,&#8221; and to factually state where particular candidates stand on those issues. They are able to effectively get around the Johnson Amendment pretty much trivially with this, and there&#8217;s very little the government can do about that without threatening the First Amendment.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-17" href="#footnote-17" target="_self">17</a> We all know which candidates are endorsed by the Protestant megachurch up the street, festooned in American flags like a <a href="https://archive.org/details/loveinruinsadven00perc/page/16/mode/2up?q=knothead">knothead</a> temple. We all know which candidates are endorsed by the Black Evangelical church down the road where the Democratic candidates are all welcomed like heroes (but some are more heroes than others). We all know which candidates the local university is hoping to aid with its get-out-the-vote drives.</p><p>One of the things that keeps the Johnson Amendment from turning into a political weapon or suppressing core political speech is that the Johnson Amendment is <em>so easily</em> circumvented. A real, robust attempt to suppress core political speech by core political speakers would, I think, likely backfire.</p><h2>Quibbles &amp; Corrections</h2><blockquote><p><em>MASTRICHT: Kyrsten* Sinema</em></p></blockquote><p>Oops. Corrected.</p><p>Even in this age of ridiculous spellings of &#8220;Kristin&#8221; (to say nothing of &#8220;Caitlin&#8221;), my mind simply could not accept that she put her &#8220;y&#8221; <em>there,</em> of all places.</p><div><hr></div><blockquote><p><em><span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Chuck C&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:74427093,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a2b36f5b-dda9-4a5c-865c-1db755d3199f_144x144.png&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;5b506b68-ee38-484e-85e7-f40cf796e728&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>: I have a minor quibble to make about the phrasing of Section 3: &#8220;Each member qualified for the U.S. Senate who has served in the body for at least two full years (even if non-contiguous) and who has cast at least one hundred roll-call votes shall be eligible for nomination.&#8221; -- I would argue that the plainest reading of this would indicate that we are looking for people who were already in the US Senate, unless I am failing legalese...</em>  </p></blockquote><p>That&#8217;s fair. The antecedent is ambiguous. I&#8217;ll have to take it to the workshop. (Chuck offers a suggestion, &#8220;State body,&#8221; but I think the whole sentence should probably be laid out differently.)</p><blockquote><p><em>CHUCK C: Also, after writing that, I am curious if you are restricting this to current members of the State&#8217;s body?</em></p></blockquote><p>My intention is to include only current members, yes. I think the text does that, but maybe it needs clearing up.</p><div><hr></div><blockquote><p><em>MASTRICHT: While we&#8217;re here, I&#8217;ll note that I did check whether any states had equally sized senate/house, as that would cause problems. There are not, currently.</em></p></blockquote><p>Substack does gifs now, right?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mlAL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb161616d-40b4-42dc-9500-71674eee7d28_312x176.gif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mlAL!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb161616d-40b4-42dc-9500-71674eee7d28_312x176.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mlAL!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb161616d-40b4-42dc-9500-71674eee7d28_312x176.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mlAL!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb161616d-40b4-42dc-9500-71674eee7d28_312x176.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mlAL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb161616d-40b4-42dc-9500-71674eee7d28_312x176.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mlAL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb161616d-40b4-42dc-9500-71674eee7d28_312x176.gif" width="552" height="311.38461538461536" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/b161616d-40b4-42dc-9500-71674eee7d28_312x176.gif&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:176,&quot;width&quot;:312,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:552,&quot;bytes&quot;:902889,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/gif&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/i/177539368?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb161616d-40b4-42dc-9500-71674eee7d28_312x176.gif&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mlAL!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb161616d-40b4-42dc-9500-71674eee7d28_312x176.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mlAL!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb161616d-40b4-42dc-9500-71674eee7d28_312x176.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mlAL!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb161616d-40b4-42dc-9500-71674eee7d28_312x176.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mlAL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb161616d-40b4-42dc-9500-71674eee7d28_312x176.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">SurprisinglyGoodPoint_Winger.gif</figcaption></figure></div><p>I mean, lucky escape for me, but Mastricht is right, and Jeff Winger&#8217;s face is pretty much the one I made when I read it. That&#8217;s a problem the text will need to account for in some way. </p><p>If there&#8217;s a tie for the largest state legislative chamber, I&#8217;m inclined to just require random selection at each U.S. Senate vacancy. Simple, no obvious partisan advantage, and it&#8217;s only moderately weird that the two bodies could switch off choosing senators.</p><div><hr></div><blockquote><p><em>EVAN TRIANGLE</em>: <em>As a nitpick, Section 3 doesn&#8217;t mention the redistribution of votes after a nominee is eliminated.</em></p></blockquote><p>Does this need to be mentioned? I think of &#8220;redistributing votes&#8221; as a convenient way of explaining how ranked-choice methods work to people who don&#8217;t know about them, not something ranked-choice methods actually <em>do</em>. If a candidate is eliminated, you just recount all the ballots, skipping that candidate. Votes don&#8217;t actually move around.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-18" href="#footnote-18" target="_self">18</a> Another equally cromulent way of describing it would be &#8220;erasing&#8221; the eliminated candidate from every ballot and recounting, but, of course, nobody actually pulls out a giant eraser and rubs the name off. The ballot remains the ballot and the votes remain distributed exactly the way they were cast. Eliminated candidates are simply omitted during counting.</p><p>Am I weird for thinking this way? Does text need to spell out elimination and redistribution?</p><h2>Populism Adapts</h2><p>I close with this summative comment from Daniel Pareja.</p><blockquote><p><em>DANIEL PAREJA: I think a common theme of some of the other comments made is this: this amendment assumes that political actors will continue to abide by the current conventions, but the optimal partisan political outcomes are achieved by changing the conventions, and thus the conventions will change. The only way to avoid this is for voters to be willing, en masse, to punish politicians who try to game the system, which is dubious on multiple grounds. </em></p><p><em>This is, in effect, the same problem faced by the people who want to use the current electoral system for President to bootstrap a nationwide popular vote via an interstate compact: political actors who dislike that can simply start playing by different rules. (For instance, state legislatures might remember that they can just directly appoint electors for President, and not bother to have any sort of statewide vote on the matter.)</em></p></blockquote><p>I hope I have now shown that I really did put some thought into the question of how partisans will react to the new rules, and I tried hard to write adaptations for those adaptations into the rules. It is true, of course, that, like water seeking its level, partisans will always seek an edge, and it is also true that the only impenetrable backstop against them is a virtuous, free people. In the end, it always comes back to John Adams: &#8220;Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.&#8221;</p><p>However, I think that, just as a virtuous people reinforces and defends the structures of government against the vandals, so, too, does a well-structured government reinforce and defend the virtues of the People. If ever the People are called upon to punish politicians <em>en masse </em>for structural violations, then the structures have already failed and are in need of reform. Yes, the responsibility to punish offending politicians belongs to the People, but, if existing electoral structures create incentives for the politicians to violate them, the People are going to be asked to do this over and over again. That isn&#8217;t sustainable. The structures themselves need to hold the politicians in check. </p><p>This is why (for example) it is a good thing that the King of England still holds a royal veto (at least in theory). Though he may never use it, and could not do so without doing immense political damage to his nation&#8217;s political order, the very threat of it keeps Parliament from going too far.</p><p>I don&#8217;t think the American system is working very well at the moment. At a large scale, I mean, just look at the last presidential election, Cackles versus The Thug.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-19" href="#footnote-19" target="_self">19</a> At a small scale, the Senate was designed to serve as one of the containment structures I&#8217;m talking about. Forget the cooling saucer; I keep going back to that image of boron control rods in a nuclear reactor. But it isn&#8217;t. The Senate is broken. Acknowledging that parties will always adapt, we should still fix the Senate, and try to give parties incentives that line up with what the Senate is intended to be&#8230; or fence them out when we can&#8217;t. </p><p>We may get it wrong, or, after a few decades, the parties may find new adaptations. Then we try again. That&#8217;s why our Constitution has an amendments process. It&#8217;s worth doing this, not just out of some OCD desire to make the Senate work &#8220;correctly,&#8221; but for the health of our elections and the <em>salus populi</em>.</p><h2>What Now?</h2><p>Speaking of trying again&#8230;</p><p>Although I have just spent rather a lot of words explaining and defending it, my proposed Senate amendment remains DoA. I am going to have to give it another shot.</p><p><em>Some Constitutional Amendments</em> has now spent five months on the Senate. If you have read all three parts in full, then I congratulate you: those three articles contained more words than <em>The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe</em>.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-20" href="#footnote-20" target="_self">20</a></p><p>However, I think the Senate is worth it. It is one of the crown jewels of our Constitution, and it has become a sewer. I can&#8217;t walk away from it. There&#8217;s got to be a way to allow legislators to pick their Senator, insulated from popular and political pressures, to give all factions some voice and some stake in the selection, to help the Senate become deliberative again, and to do it all without bringing back deadlocks&#8230; or the crushing complexity of an algorithm-based contingent election, which alienated so many of you. </p><p>Your comments were invaluable, even when I didn&#8217;t agree with them. You have given me lots to think about. I see options for the Senate now that I didn&#8217;t see in July. No doubt, your further comments on this article (if I didn&#8217;t completely wear you out by its length!) will shed further light on the problem. I&#8217;ll try and deal with everything in my next&#8212;and hopefully final&#8212;post on the Senate.</p><p>Once more unto the breach, my friends.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption"><em>De Civitate</em> is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is a more serious problem with the current Senate than I highlighted in previous articles. Take impeachment trials.</p><p>It has now been <a href="https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021/02/politics/senate-who-voted-impeachment/">proven</a> beyond <a href="https://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/02/12/senate.vote/">all reasonable</a> doubt that, even if the President <em>were</em> caught in bed with a dead girl, even if the President started a nuclear war with <em>Togo</em>, the hyperpartisan U.S. Senate will never, ever, ever achieve the two-thirds majority necessary to convict him in an impeachment trial. </p><p>A less ideologically polarized Senate would be capable of this, but not prone to doing it lightly. That, in turn, would restore an important constitutional check on the presidency <em>and</em> on the judiciary. Today, polarization means that check is all but extinct.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em><strong>AMENDMENT XXXIII</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Section One</strong></em></p><blockquote><p><em>The seventeenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.</em></p><p><em>The Senate of the United States shall be composed of one Senator from each State, chosen by the least numerous branch of the state legislature thereof.</em></p></blockquote><p><em><strong>Section Two</strong></em></p><blockquote><p><em>Within thirty calendar days of an imminent or actual vacancy in the state&#8217;s Senate seat, the electoral house shall convene to elect a replacement. Upon a motion and a second nominating an eligible candidate, the body shall immediately vote by secret ballot whether to elect that candidate or not. If two-thirds of members present concur, the nominee is elected. If not, the nominee may not be re-nominated for this vacancy under this section, and the mover and seconder may not move or second another motion for this vacancy under this section. If there are no further nominations, or if no U.S. Senator is elected in this way within two calendar days, the body shall proceed to election under Section Three.</em></p></blockquote><p><em><strong>Section Three</strong></em></p><blockquote><p><em>Each member qualified for the U.S. Senate who has served in the body for at least two full years (even if non-contiguous) and who has cast at least one hundred roll-call votes shall be eligible for nomination.</em></p><p><em>Each eligible member shall be scored by linear, eight-iteration Dynamic Weighted Nominal Three-Step Estimation (DW-NOMINATE) in the first dimension, taking the member&#8217;s average score across every legislative term in which the member has served.</em></p><p><em>The median eligible legislator or legislators shall be nominated. If they do not amount to ten percent of the eligible members of the body, then the eligible legislator or legislators who have the closest score above the median, plus the legislator or legislators who have the closest score below the median, shall be nominated. If all these combined do not amount to ten percent of the eligible members, this procedure shall be repeated until ten percent of eligible members have been nominated.</em></p><p><em>The body shall immediately vote by secret, ranked ballot. Any ballot that does not rank all nominees shall be invalid. If one nominee defeats all others head-to-head, that nominee shall be elected. Otherwise, the smallest set of nominees shall be identified, such that each nominee in the set defeats every nominee outside the set. The nominee with the fewest highest-ranked votes who is not in that set shall be eliminated. If there is now a single candidate who defeats all others head-to-head, that candidate shall be elected. Otherwise, candidates shall be eliminated in this way until a candidate is elected, eliminating nominees in the set only if all other nominees have already been eliminated. Exact ties shall be broken by lot.</em></p><p><em>In a state admitted to the Union less than two years ago, members who have served in the body continuously since its establishment shall be deemed to meet the tenure and roll call qualifications. Otherwise, if there are no eligible candidates, the election shall be suspended until such time as there are.</em></p></blockquote><p><em><strong>Section Four</strong></em></p><blockquote><p><em>Congress may, by the concurrence of three-quarters of the members duly chosen and sworn in the House of Representatives, amend Section 3 of this article.</em></p></blockquote><p><em><strong>Section Five</strong></em></p><blockquote><p><em>Any pledge, vow, oath, or any other commitment by a Senate elector regarding his vote for U.S. Senator shall be null, void, and utterly without force from the moment it is made (excepting her oath to this Constitution and her state&#8217;s Constitution). Any instruction, advice, or requirement laid upon an elector, outside the provisions of this Constitution, shall be likewise null and void.</em></p></blockquote><p><em><strong>Section Six</strong></em></p><blockquote><p><em>In the first twelve months after this article becomes part of this Constitution, each state shall, under such rules as Congress shall prescribe, be simultaneously deprived of one of its senate seats, as randomly as possible, while preserving the equality of the three classes of the Senate. To fill the state&#8217;s remaining seat for the remainder of the current term, the state shall hold a senate election as prescribed by this article, except that the only eligible nominees shall be the current U.S. Senators from the state. Until this is completed, the first four sections of this article are suspended.</em></p></blockquote><p><em><strong>Section Seven</strong></em></p><blockquote><p><em>The provisions of this article are justiciable.</em></p></blockquote></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>As we went on to discuss in <a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/replacing-the-seventeenth-amendment/comment/167165094">the comment thread</a>, you <em>might </em>have to make voting in partisan primaries mandatory as well. Otherwise, general election voters are still forced to choose between the lesser of evils nominated by their parties, and you end up with elections that look a lot like the terrible elections we already have. Flooding partisan primaries, however, makes America&#8217;s already very-weak parties even weaker, opening them up to even <em>more</em> populism.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is one reason, among several, why America&#8217;s politics have always gravitated toward a two-party system even more than the U.K.&#8217;s, even though both countries use first-past-the-post voting and are thus subject to <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo">Duverger&#8217;s Law</a>.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I defer to Daniel&#8217;s encyclopedic knowledge of global democratic-republican electoral systems to correct me on this, if I am wrong.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Or, at least, the obstructionist minority is getting punished. Except&#8230; isn&#8217;t the obstructionist minority getting exactly what they want?</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Credit where it is due: Daniel Pareja had a very similar idea:</p><blockquote><p><em>DANIEL PAREJA: On banning bullet ballots (and requiring full ranking), to avoid the centre squeeze issue, why not incorporate Coombs&#8217; method? Maybe it has some failings that lead it to be less desirable than even Hare, but on paper it knocks out extremists who make a substantial chunk of the electorate vomit even as another chunk loves them.</em></p></blockquote><p>In Coombs&#8217; method, you vote a standard ranked-choice ballot, but, instead of eliminating the candidate with the fewest first-place votes, you eliminate the candidate with the <em>most</em> last-place votes.</p><p>If you have open nominations (unrestricted by something like DW-NOMINATE), Coombs&#8217; method works pretty much the same as Gilbert&#8217;s suggestion, but with fewer steps: the majority simply all votes for their top guy and he wins with a majority before Coombs&#8217; makes even its first elimination pass.</p><p>If you instead run Coombs&#8217; method <em>after</em> the DW-NOMINATE restrictions have been imposed (which I think may be what Daniel is really suggesting here), I found it unnecessary. Requiring full ranking on ballots is so easy, so concise, so simple to simulate, and kills so many tactical voting strategies, I figured I was good to go. </p><p>In my proposed fallback election, DW-NOMINATE is doing most of the heavy lifting anyway. Controlling the nominees is the whole ballgame. Once you&#8217;ve reached that final ballot with two to six nominees, all of whom are from the middle of the chamber, further refinements to the electoral system bring (in my view) diminishing returns.</p><p>At the same time, I don&#8217;t really have anything <em>against</em> using Coombs&#8217; method here. I&#8217;d just have to confirm through a lot of simulations that it doesn&#8217;t do anything weird.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>These names for the groups are my own. I added them for ease of reference. I have no idea what the Venetians called each little group, if anything.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The idea apparently was that it would be too hard for bribe-makers to buy off the right people in advance, because there were too many of them.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>No, special interest donor funding is not the same thing. We ferociously call that sort of thing &#8220;bribery&#8221; because we live in a high-trust society (<a href="https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/worthy-reads-unbounded-distrust">for now</a>) that no longer has any experience with the real thing. I&#8217;m not saying special interest donor funding is good or healthy, but it isn&#8217;t the literal <em>quid pro quo</em> vote-buying the Venetians were worried about.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>There is one more category:</p><ul><li><p>Swamp creatures (Jon Ossoff, Terry McAuliffe, Michael Bennet, Rand Paul)</p></li></ul><p>These are not populists, but just party loyalists who worked so hard and so long that they earned a Senate ticket. They are generally <em>not</em> populists, and probably do make better Senators than the populists. However, an amendment that required us to elect this type of consummate partisan to the Senate would probably <em>not</em> make the political parties less influential, or the results less ideological.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>Mason&#8217;s Manual</em> provides some more detail on one implementation of this general parliamentary right, at 535.6:</p><blockquote><p>After the roll call has been complete, but before the vote is announced, members may rise and address the presiding officer and, upon being recognized, may change the votes by saying, &#8220;yea to nay&#8221; or the reverse, and the chief legislative officer, upon recording the change, repeats back, &#8220;Senator (Representative or Mr. or Madam) _____ &#8216;yea to nay,&#8217;&#8221; or the reverse. It is not out of order for members to change their votes without waiting to be recognized by the presiding officer, but the best practice is to secure recognition before changing the vote.</p></blockquote></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-13" href="#footnote-anchor-13" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">13</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I also don&#8217;t think we should sleep on the difficulty of achieving any of this. Doing any of these things, in any state, would require a state constitutional amendment. Mr. Russo notes this:</p><blockquote><p><em>CHRISTOPHER M. RUSSO: Take Illinois as an example. A state constitutional amendment in IL requires a three-fifths vote of each house of the General Assembly, ratified by a majority of voters in a general election. Democrats could pass such an amendment through the General Assembly on a party-line vote. State-wide ratification would be harder but doable. (IL voted 54% Harris, 43% Trump in 2024.)</em></p></blockquote><p>However, Illinois also has no real <em>need</em> to do this. Precisely because the Democrats are so successful in the state, Democrats currently control 68% of the seats in the state senate, have done so continuously since the 2018 elections seven years ago, and are certainly to continue to do so through at least the 2028 elections.</p><p>The Illinois Democratic Party doesn&#8217;t need to worry a bit about manipulating the nominees list in a Section Three election, because they can win with zero minority support in Section Two. That&#8217;s fine. We talked in the last article about how, if you really want U.S. Senators who represent the state, that means blue states will get blue Senators and red states will get red Senators. Only states where both parties have a meaningful voice will see more moderate Senators. Thus, our revived Senate will reflect our national spectrum much better than the current Senate.</p><p>This dynamic holds pretty steady across the board. The states where a majority party would <em>want</em> to amend their constitution to make their elections proxy elections again are (generally speaking) precisely the states that <em>can&#8217;t</em> do it, because they are too purple.</p><p>On the other hand, it&#8217;s possible that a state senate would want to delegate their electoral power to another branch for some reason besides political advantage. Perhaps the state senate, knowing its own power, is reluctant to turn every state senate race into a proxy election for U.S. Senator. I hate the idea that the states would neuter their own power to elect Senators, but they already willingly did that in the 1890s and 1900s, so we must be prepared for it.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-14" href="#footnote-anchor-14" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">14</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>My proposal also requires a hundred roll call votes, but, realistically, any legislator who has served for two years will have cast at least a hundred roll call votes. I only put that in to prevent weird manipulation of the process, for example by having a long-serving legislator refuse to cast any votes so as to preserve his DW-NOMINATE virginity.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-15" href="#footnote-anchor-15" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">15</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>However, I am not certain whether any of those constitutions were still around by the time the Thirteenth Amendment was <em>ratified</em>. This was in part because they saw the writing on the wall, and, in larger part, because the ex-Confederate states were all under military occupation and were forced to write new, slave-free constitutions as part of Reconstruction.</p><p>N.b. I am <em>not</em> saying that the decadence of the Senate, as bad as it is, is anything remotely like slavery. I&#8217;m merely noting a counter-example.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-16" href="#footnote-anchor-16" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">16</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>At an even higher theoretical level:</p><p>I think Gilbert may be making a further argument here: that this amendment proposal leads to the actual <em>repeal</em> of state legal provisions, rather than merely preventing their enforcement like most federal pre-emptions. I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s right. </p><p>Section Five in my proposal renders &#8220;<em>any</em> <em>pledge, vow, oath, or any other commitment[, or] any instruction, advice, or requirement laid upon an elector.</em>&#8221; There are various state laws that require various electors to pledge to vote in a certain way. My Section Five voids <em>those pledges</em>, but it does not void the statutes that impose them. The law stays on the books until either the law is repealed or this amendment is.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-17" href="#footnote-anchor-17" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">17</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Indeed, the Johnson Amendment itself faces growing First Amendment scrutiny.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-18" href="#footnote-anchor-18" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">18</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Actually, I think this is not a good way of explaining ranked-choice voting to unconverted voters, because voters get <em>understandably</em> nervous about talk of &#8220;redistributing&#8221; votes. This way of thinking leads to bad newspaper op-eds about how instant runoff voting (single transferable vote) is terrible because it allows people to &#8220;vote twice&#8221; and suchlike. Instant runoff voting (STV) is <em>actually</em> terrible because of <a href="http://zesty.ca/voting/sim/">obscure center-squeeze problems</a> you need a college degree to understand!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-19" href="#footnote-anchor-19" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">19</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>That sounds like a wrestling match, but, really, weren&#8217;t <em>both</em> candidates better suited to the ring than the law library?</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-20" href="#footnote-anchor-20" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">20</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe</em>, shortest of the seven Narnia books, is <a href="https://brokebybooks.com/the-word-count-of-175-favorite-novels/">38,421 words long</a>. At this moment, the combined length of all three articles clocks in at 40,027, although this may change slightly in the editing process for this one.</p><p>Don&#8217;t worry, we&#8217;re still a long way off from <em>Harry Potter</em> territory. The shortest <em>HP</em> book, the first, is 77,325 words.</p><p>Note that there are often small variations in word count between <a href="https://wordcounter.io/blog/how-many-words-are-in-harry-potter">different counters</a>.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>